Nel & Veyle Support Conversations | Fire Emblem Engage [DLC Wave 4 - Fell Xenologue]

[@tomdaturtle5792]

This is perfect for Veyle. Everyone except for Alear and maybe 1 or 2 others who aren't human are going to die. Now that Nel, Rafal, and Zelestia have come, she has 3 more people with a lifespan as long as hers!

[@paulman34340]

Wait till you read "one of the unpaired" epilogues. You'll know when you see it!

[@YaeGuuji]

@@paulman34340 which one do you mean ecxactly? Now i am curious^^

[@paulman34340]

@@YaeGuuji SPOILERS Rafal unpaired ending has him disappear never to be seen by anyone again. Thousands of years later a dragon's remains are found, but it makes it an unknown to who it belongs to! So basically akin to Alfred and Mauvier, He has a "Uncertain Doom" unpaired ending

[@alecseusalec3418]

@@YaeGuuji Rafal leaves to dick around the world and comes back once or twice in a century to make more candy weapon. Few thousand years later he MAYBE sacrifices himself to save the world. It's even more vague in the Japanese version.

[@grayfox4819]

@@alecseusalec3418 Well, she still has Alear, Nel and Zelestia.

[@sansfangirl4life439]

Veyle is so freaking precious :'3

[@JosephHk743]

Why are the dlc support conversations very wholesome? These are very good character development supports. This one is no different as our veyle is getting to know Nel.

[@bravescholarlys1127]

Feel like the whole DLC writing was from someone else in the devs it’s tone feel much more developed than the base game.

[@grayfox4819]

In general the supports of these game really make you appreciate the characters a lot more. To say: Hortensia can sound really annoying in the story, but almost all of her supports are really great and they made her one of my favorite characters in the game. I also love the supports of the Four Winds, but I just wish they had them for more characters other than each others, Alear, Veyle and Mauvier.

[@darkstorm2579]

This has been the case with most of the supports in Fire Emblem. Don't know why it's so much of a shock.

[@gjfwang]

Veyle always wears them down for being too precious

[@Missingnoleader]

As family, you're irreplacable, farewell.

[@devneia]

When you friend zone the family 😂

[@THEDREADHUNTER24]

Fr 💀💀

[@joseph86255]

Not all Fell Dragons are related.

[@wee3ist]

​@@joseph86255 these are tho

[@joseph86255]

@@wee3ist They are? But they're not even from the same world.

[@wee3ist]

@@joseph86255 they have the same father tho kinda

[@hellothisismufin]

This game may nor have the best writing, but I have to admit the supports with Veyle are some real crowning jewels to the quality it's writing can hit

[@tomdaturtle5792]

Oh god, Veyle considers someone born of another world from the same father a sister, but youre allowed to marry Nel!

[@League-f9x]

Bullshit writing

[@zimonzieclown1633]

@@Iamnobody543 Yeah, but Veyle and Clanne aren't actually related in any way imaginable.

[@matthewmuir8884]

Nel doesn't agree with that idea; that's the reason a Nel s-support is possible.

[@steffent.6477]

Well, Nel and Alear don't think of each other as sieblings so why not. The blood relation-thing is a bit wonky because of the dimension travel^^

[@natureisneat8262]

Do u guys think Rafal is Veyle's twin

[@simplysimplerer]

That would be cool

[@HowlingMadness]

Can't be the case, Rafals twin died when they were young, he doesn't even remember them, and he has grown attached to Nil and then Nel over the course of years. Alternative Veyle existed, she was Mauvier liege, and, at some point, died. Besides, our Veyle never mentioned having a twin. Nel, Rafal and Nil existence seems to be unique to their world. Or each of them has been killed already, after all, Sombron disposes of failed children, or they kill each other in power struggles.

[@auraguard0212]

WHO

[@shadowdragun]

Impossible, i think. Cause the twin died before he could evwn know them and Veyle died during the war against Sombon, when Neal and Rafal had been partners for Eons

[@mauroramondo5855]

They explain that different to base world the other world's fell dragons are born as twins Also if you notice nel and nil have black and white hair respectively, Veyle has no twin and has both colors in her hair, makes sense thematically Maybe the other world's veyle is two different people? Idk

[@johnathanedwards9054]

Tiny Fell Dragon and busty Fell Dragon being friends and siblings.

[@xanthiusdrake2775]

And are already doing some sibling banter lol.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

6:35 Yes, you do have very long hair. In fact I prefer... actually, never mind.

[@johnathanedwards9054]

No, please, go on. Dig yourself a deeper hole.

[@EITHERNETTA-bx7vz]

Nel before learning alear is a fell dragon Nel: what are your siblings like? Veyle: I don't remember. I only met my big sister/brother. S/He was the one who gave me the dragon stone. S/he is very kind don't you think? Nel: I've met her/him? Veyle: don't you know? Alear is my big sister/brother

[@paulman34340]

A thing that makes me wonder abit is Alt Sombron and his motivations! Seeing as unlike PRime Sombron, he and "Fell Dragons as a whole" are a native species of Dragon rather then an Invasive one. Remember Sombron isn't native to Elyos, but was dropped off there from another world! The fact he started "spreading his fruits around with any female Dragon of other species! Mage Dragons Especially" and all the children came out Fell Dragon, and not the species of their Mother, though they may have benefited in some way based on their mother's Dragon Species, and who's to say Sombron didn't mate with any Female Divine Dragons that unfortunatly didn't get captured! Sombron has shown morality and such will NOT have a foothold in his decisions if it gets in the way of his endgame! The man killed his own kids for ANY perceived or actual failures as "Defects" wouldn't put it past him! Would be funny if my Fridge Horror is correct and one of those Female Divine Dragon's was Alear's mother! Would play off that Sombron's blood was stronger, hence their Red hair and eyes, but that bloodline while strengtening her Fell Powers in syncing with Emblems, it also made it easy for Lumera to use her own Divine Energy to have a foothold in inverting Alear's Fell Dragon Nature into Divine Dragon! There was already a "soil for it to be planted in" from their birth mother's heritage! But as shown in the BAD Ending, Sombron can just as easily purge Divine Energy with Fell Energy just the same! He did it with the Emblems as remember "NOT" VEYLE never really uses invocations to summon Emblems. The only one you see AND hear on screen awakening the Emblems is Sombron and Alear! Even Evil Veyle despite having the stolen Emblem Rings never invoked them, Sombron did (Something tells me Sombron being Sombron, didn't even trust NOT Veyle enough to teach her how to invocate, seeing as "the last child he taught how to do that betrayed him" despite the Evil Princess being devoted to him!) It's also how Nel put it, "Justify" their non-relations! Alt Sombron is a native to his Elyos, meaning genetically, while they are similar, their are enough differences that incest or family connection between Nel & Rafal and Alear & Veyle are so minor to non-existent, it doesn't even matter with relations (Helps more that Alt Veyle and Alt Alear are NOT siblings as Alt Alear is a FULL Divine Dragon by birth instead of infusion, and Alt Veyle was STILL good, just as Alt Sombron was still a "filicide-ing Psychopath" at least one thing is clear! No version of Sombron ever lived or died happily because of their POS behavior and actions in the long run) plus I can get Nel's reasoning for NOT wanting to pursue a sibling relationship so easily! Seeing how it feels implied Sombron and Alt Sombron may have even ENCOURAGED by their actions siblings being "weary of each other!" Alear could lower their guard around Veyle because she was too young to be any type of threat to them! But the other siblings, don't think so if they wanted to avoid dying through "other means besides death by pissing Daddy off for whatever reasoning" I'm sure Sombron killed a child for simply "BREATING WRONG!" Let me add it's my little theory! I welcome adding or challanging my theory, but I'm not saying Canon and making it clear here because I know there are idiots who will ignore this part completely even if you tell them to start fucking with you for some god damn reason! This isn't much protection because idiots also never fully read the entire comment if it's more then 100 or so words! Even if written right enough to skim through EASILY! This is there to more HUMILATE them when they jump the gun and then have to be told to READ IT FULLY INSTEAD OF BEING IDIOTS!

[@paulman34340]

@Iamnobody As a reminder, Sombron had MANY mates so that might factor in! And we don't know Alear's Bio Mother's Dragon Tribe! but while it might be hard to make out, Sombron is likely where Alear got their red hair from as his hair is on the Red Color Spectrum (A Darker red) Veyle might be because she's a child of a Mage Dragon as Zephia also has white hair. I figure Sombron more monsterous traits might have become more pronounced the deeper he grew more of his Fell Dragon Abilities sort of like how Voldemort only started looking the way he did the more he split his soul into pieces to sho. Veyle likely avoided this because it didn't seem long since Zephia and Sombron started using the spell that created the Evil varient in her personality for that version to start showing signs! Or maybe it's the Mage Dragon Blood that causes it (as I have to take into mind the Bad ending implies another 1000 years or so might have passed when Alear lost as Veyle looks much older looking. It took 1000 years for Lumera to put a large amount of her essence into Alear while they were comatose so it likely took longer for Sombron to purge it, likely made easier because Alear Fell Dragon Heritage was still there, only purged AFTER Victory in the Main Ending) I really can't tell what species of mother the twins had since Zelestia made it clear Sombron wiped the entire tribe out when they refused to bow to him. But then as a theory I also have, who's to say he didn't keep the females for breeding and Zelestia narrowly avoided the same fate because of her weaker power (I have a fridge theory that Alear's mother was a Divine Dragon, Note that Evil Veyle never invocates the Rings like Alear does! Griss knowing this is likely cause he was informed of this AND was paying attention when Sombron did the same when Evil Veyle took the Six Starter Rings! Veyle can turn corpses into Corrupted like Sombron can, But Alear seems to be the only one who can invocate the Rings. But I may be reaching, seeing how disposable his kids were to him! Sombron might have invocated Marth and handed him to Alear simply because they were NEXT after the "failure" of the previous sibling to get results! Alear might have noticed Sombron doing it and seeing Lumera might have caused them to try and discover this for themselves just by accident! But that could also be that Alear never was able to sense the Rings till Lumera put her essence into her that allowed her invocations to work! They are still only a Half Divine Dragon Royal, but at the same time also a Half Fell Dragon Royal as well, so the two likely jumpstarted the ability to sense and awaken the Rings, but needs to Invocations to power up the awakening! The divine part is what keeps the Rings from being just awaken to be controlled, likely why the Bond Level's are always starting at Level 1, it's not that the Ring/Bracelet Emblems don't like a character, it's because they need to build up that power, compared to Fell Invocation only where the wielder CAN forcefully get the Sync Skills and Engage Weapons through sheer will....refering to the later Revival Stones when everytime you Zero HP a Emblem wielding boss, they indicate force to get more power and heal themselves. Mauvier apologizes to Micaiah when he does this to her, meaning he's aware that this harms the Emblem, so the others know as well, unlike him they don't care! Evil Veyle seems to take pleasure in hurting Emblem Marth this way likely because she's in view of Alear! Note she seems to make a beeline for Alear any chance she gets, only attacking your allies if their in range and IN THE WAY)

[@paulman34340]

@Iamnobody A Reminder that Veyle is Alear's HALF sibling! I doubt Alt Sombron didn't do the same and have a Harem of Mates as well! Likely with Lesser Female Fell Dragons hence the "Twins" thing!

[@paulman34340]

We can only speculate on the Twin Pair thing in the main verse as stated Sombron and Alt Sombron are completely different in Biology and backstory (because Alt Sombron was BORN in the world of Elyos, rather then dropped there from elsewhere) Plus Past Alear only talked about the Siblings they KNEW, as we don't know how long or how BAD Sombron Filicide goes! Veyle survived simply because Sombron patience in remaining in Elyos finally waned enough and he couldn't be picky since she was the last and he pretty much wiped out the Tribes that all that was left was Veyle, Zephia and Alear And he showed he was NOT interested in starting again with Zephia (and likely suspected she'd GTFO if he got her pregnant since her concern was simply to have a child with him, when she got that, she'd have zero reason beyond FORCE to keep her, he was shown to smooth talk or try to when it came to his interactions with her. Barely even hiding he wanted her to delay Alear at WORST from catching up to him as the way she acted, it's likely he's used the "we'll talk about this LATER" line with her too much that she VERY MUCH noticed) since as stated "HE REALLY WANTED TO GTFO of Elyos as fast as possible, especially after getting sealed (and why Alear pointed out he'd just make the same mistakes again, because he refuses to learn his lesson from his past mistakes)

[@paulman34340]

@Iamnobody Yeah with the fact he killed off the Mage Dragon Tribe minus Zelestia, either my theory of enslaving the females for breeding is true and Veyle had the same mother, or Veyle was born from a Fell Dragon Mother! But the fact Mauvier states she was still similar to Mainverse Veyle. Who knows! Surprised with that environment she grew up in like the Twins (where Nil even stated some OFFERED to kill Nel for her if she wasn't up to it, showing killing off the weaker twin is normal for them) she could still come out as she was. She might have been alot like Past Alear was in that she had no choice, but did the best she could in the situation she was in (Helps Alt Sombron wasn't so "kill happy" with his kids displaying EMOTIONS he didn't like. He's still terrible, but like +1 better then Mainverse Sombron LOL) Can't really tell since this ability involves the Emblem Bracelets and NOT the Emblem Rings so who's to say. (I do love to add how people complained about the Bracelets not being taken, and forgetting Sombron didn't care to WEAKEN Alear and company, only in getting the Rings for their power! And even if you get the Bracelets, the group was STILL in ambush and had to retreat, and Alear not in the BEST of moods because they not only lost Marth BUT SIGURD as well, not to mention "Roy our Boy", Micaiah and Celica after being entrusted with them by the Firene & Brodia Royal Families and only got hope back when they were given the Elusian Royal Family Rings Lyn and Lucina) Plus Evil Veyle was mostly relying on Sombron's givings with what she contributed being the Corrupted she made, her magic, ETC and even then that was all VEYLE'S! I don't think Sombron would willingly TEACH his kids the invocations or maybe Fell Children are not strong enough to do so being Young, and as I said before Lumera essences BOOSTED Alear own ability that the invocations gave a boost, though Lumera concern may indicate I'm wrong and Alear DID have the power to do so in the past, but could only invocate like their father (where the Emblem is red and untalkative)

[@paulman34340]

@Iamnobody That all becomes irrelevent once you remember the twist of the side story was EVERYONE but the four winds and the twins in the reverse world were all dead! I don't think they EVER fully explained other then the twins using their Fell Dragon necromancy in a poor attempt to revive everyone how everyone was killed off (and I'm talking about the population, not the royals themselves....or why only SOME were revived AKA the royals and not their vessels) But yeah Alt Sombron was less keen because he felt more like he let NATURE do the work then doing it personally! Might have been a cultural thing with the Fell Dragons! Unlike the Mage Dragons. Fell Dragons might have had a "embracing" of what they were viewed as (Being Dragons of Great Evil, though again, it's a choice, but their culture might have PROMOTED this type of behavior, as we do have some bad cultures that still have good folk in them! So the same could be said here! Sombron did mess with Rafal Dragonstone to assure he becomes Heir in PASSING his ideals whatever he wanted to or not! Might be rough around the edges, being akin to Tsundere Takumi LOL, but Rafal seemed more he represented the more ruthless side, but only with REASON rather then outright being a plague on others!

[@zehar-h]

I wonder what would happen if Veyle straight up reveald that Alear is her big sister/brother

[@arturiapendragon9642]

I think Nel’s brain would explode

[@optimaltt6070]

1:19 Me: *pulls a gun on Nel* Say you want to. Say it! DO it! DO IT FOR PRECIOUS DAUGHTER DAMN YOU!

[@Duskurio]

This makes the Nel x Alear S support way worse by the fact that her agreeing to by Veyle's sibling is also agreeing to be Alear's.

[@bravescholarlys1127]

It could be in symbolic sense besides the Divine power Alear has dilute the fell blood making it balance so it’s no problem especially since the Alear in her world was completely a Divine Dragon and so is the Main one.

[@elpopman2055]

Does not change the fact they have the same father

[@AetherKirin]

@@elpopman2055 To be fair like, father from different universes. They're technically different people, despite being the same person. It's like saying that alternate Fogado and our Fogado is the same person. Well, they are. But not really. Alternate universe is wonky.

[@catfish8716]

Marrying Alear technically makes her Veyle's sister anyway

[@elpopman2055]

@@AetherKirin Different universe still change the fact that their father is still Sombron.. .. Blood Dilution doesn't really matter.. Them being siblings was even acknowledged in the game

[@mosessin]

Does Veyle still miss her eldest siblings?

[@TheJaredPunch]

I mean, wouldn’t you miss a dead loved one? I know I do, even now.

[@naui5257]

Its implied that Alear is the only one she was particularly close to. Most either died before she was born or simply never met them.

[@mosessin]

@@naui5257 Does she know their names, by the way?

[@linkand0659]

​@@mosessin Veyle never met them, just Alear for one time before the timeskip

[@mosessin]

@@linkand0659 Why did only Alear meet Veyle?

[@fannimaruzsi6755]

To be honest the true alear might be the male one and i'm sure of course big brother.