They nailed it! Klipsch RP1200SW Subwoofer Review!

[@JohnScheppler]

I've been running the Klipsch RPW line of front ported subwoofers for a while and really enjoying it. The front port gives you so much more flexibility with room placement.

[@benjaminreverse]

Bought this to replace an SVS SB-3000 and the difference is significant. Huge, billowy, deep bass where the SVS lacks impact and realism. I have them paired with The Nines and crossed over at 55 hz. Klipsch claims their products elicit emotion, and they certainly deliver here.

[@NemoPropaganda]

of course, SB3000 is a fine sub but much smaller, its not fair to ask such a small cabinet to perform like a much larger one :)

[@iansteventon4221]

Hi ,just thought I'd send a BIG thank you for your efforts on the review. I've had this klipsch rp-1200sw for just over a week and it has transformed my audio ! Obviously my last 2 svs sb-1000 pros weren't cutting the mustard. Tempted to get another, but honestly don't know if it would even improve anything as it sounds amazing. Anyways , thank you mate for the time and effort you take on your work 👌 🔊

[@NemoPropaganda]

Glad you're enjoying it my bro! The SB1000 Pro are still great little subs but they are A LOT smaller than a single RP1200 SW so no surprise even the single RP 1200SQ sounds bigger than a pair of 1000 Pro :) size really matters with subs and that RP1200SW is no joke!!

[@KimmoJaskari]

Klipsch have made a big point about the new slot port, they designed in something they call an aerofoil design. The lack of port chuffing on these is not an accident, it's a result of the literal years they spent designing these units and shaping the entire port length into the sub. Again, compared to the PB 16 Ultra which is over a thousand bucks more, the RP1600SW has less chuffing (according to the single informal comparison I've seen on KZbin) and I see no reason to doubt it, the SVS have several normal simple round ports.

[@SSMan-jo6tf]

I just bought the 1600sw and there is noticeable chuffing but only on extremely low notes where the sound is at or below human hearing range so the chuffing is most noticeable under that condition

[@conduit242]

It’s basic CFD, we aren’t designing the Space Shuttle here 😂🙄

[@michaelwright1602]

Good review Nemo! Klipsch does make some nice little speakers and subs. And fantastic advice to turn down the crossover settings. As you stated, most folks leave their sub(s) set at 80Hz and the volume cranked up. And then the placement, most folks simply place them next to the speakers. And I have been guilty of all of the above... I still have the SB3000 subs, x 2, and found placing them away from the speakers, in two separate but joined rooms, made a significant difference in the bass. Then checking the Hz rating on my speakers, a pair of ZU DW6 Supremes, at around 38Hz, I set the subs at roughly 40Hz as you recommend, and took the volume down into the 40's or lower db. They disappear in the rooms and I cannot "hear" the subs, and they add just enough bass to really make recordings sound outstanding. Keep up the good work sir!

[@roccobruno8027]

You can never overestimate honesty.

[@michaelwright1602]

Even their budget line subs are very good. I hooked my buddy up with a pair of their Black Label 12 inch, and he throughly enjoys them, and they sound damn good.

[@NeilRussell-m6r]

We have a 12 inch in the basement man cave, also towers, side speakers, and rear speakers. I’ve never heard a sub hit that low even at low volume? I’ve never heard that before.😘

[@Nick_4i]

These are now on sale for $800. Seems like a pretty great value, especially with the 5 year warranty on driver *and* electronics.

[@greyshadow7786]

Its actually $649.00 USD

[@parkersgarage4216]

@@greyshadow7786 its actually 599 and i think im gonna buy it lol. my goal is to piss off my neighbor and wake him up. really hoping this does the trick lol. cant stand him

[@eltonc1505]

Good to have another quality product sub $1000 to choose from... and as always a great review, especially the comparison !

[@lijay1]

The klipsch RP14s are on sale now for $899.

[@SSMan-jo6tf]

I just purchased the Rp-1600sw,can’t wait for delivery!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

oooo you got the big dog!!!!! Congrats!

[@jlang13]

Yo! The 16 incher! Awes. How is it for music? I'm sure it's insane for movies - insane 5.1 LFE. But, does music sound good too? And, where did you put the sub? Is in front and center? Or, did you hide it in the corner. (Hahah, hard to hide this monster). thank you.

[@Audiomainia2310]

Interesting. I had bought a while back the R12SW - rear ported, and I hated it immediately and returned it. This is completely different and the slotted port like the RSL eliminates port chuffing. I may give this a shot in the future, but still loving my sealed JBL S550P sub. I've gotten so accustomed to the tight transient response ( I bought it cause you gave it a thumbs up brother, and I totally dig it ) Thanks brother for a good review - and yeah, I felt the way you did about Klipsch. Gotta rethink it b!

[@NemoPropaganda]

aye! glad you like the 550p, it's a hell of a performer at its price point!

[@bigjay1970]

Looking at two JBL 550p subs myself.😝 Best $189 a piece on sale ever.🥳 Free shipping!🤯🤓😎 Matches nicely to my 590's!🤔😉😎

[@Audiomainia2310]

@@bigjay1970 I bought it for that price - my opinion, best advice Nano gave me. This thing rumbles - and heavy at 50 lbs. But a great buy - where else can you get a sealed 10" sub w/ 300 watts RMS - 550 peak like this? You'll love it

[@bigjay1970]

@@Audiomainia2310 When I said looking, I literally meant Looking!🤔🤪. Had them for 3 years I suppose.😝😉🤗😇

[@Audiomainia2310]

@@bigjay1970 🤣🤣🤣👍👍

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

Klipsh knows how to make a subwoofer ❤❤🔥🔥. Love that Nemo can admit how great Klipsch sounds these days

[@robk5745]

Great subwoofer especially for the money. You’ll be wanting another one real quick haha

[@KimmoJaskari]

Glad to see some reviews start filtering out of the new Reference Premiere subs. Their other subs have all been eeeh, but these new RP subs seem to be monstrosities, in the best way possible. I've seen one video on here where after a casual comparo they arrived at the conclusion that the RP1600SW seems to outperform an SVS PB 16 Ultra.

[@justinbeamon6624]

Yah Audioholics tested that 1600SW and it hit 118 db, although the PB16 still outperforms by 3-4 DB at 16-20hz.

[@edmundgil6008]

Wow bro… truly surprised this sub received such a solid review… especially the clean sound distinction, and tightness, for a vented sub. Great comparisons too. Thanks again! 🎶🙏🏽♥️‼️

[@mantaproject]

Thanks for this review!

[@John-ok8ts]

I have both a rel ht1205 and Klipsch spl120 which was the earlier model to this and the Klipsch is fine. It doesn't go as deep but out of the box it is flatter in measurements and does go a lot higher making it easier to crossover. You can't really get away with anything over 80hz with the Rel so no puny satellite speakers need apply. That said after EQ the rel murders it and I prefer it so will eventually replace the Klipsch too but it's not bad at all.

[@justinbeamon6624]

These new models and the SPL series aren't really comparable or even a replacement. This is like going from a Chevy cobalt to a Corvette. The SPL series at least the 12 inch had basically nothing under 30hz. Now the new series are more power and actual have useable output in the teens. This would murder an HT1205 almost comically in output. Audioholics tested the group delay and it's so low it won't sound bloated in comparison.

[@John-ok8ts]

@@justinbeamon6624 It doesn't get as low as the REL which isn't exactly designed for that kind of thing but with room gain and EQ it gets to 20Hz. tbh I don't think I have ever watched a movie or listened to a song that goes that low anyway. I'm more concerned with how it sounds from around 35 to 80 than going super low. You can't even "hear" bass below 20hz unless it's over 70db.

[@kholl7692]

Waited for this👌

[@wh8779]

Instead comparing this to the pb1000 pro you should compare to the pb 2000 pro size wise and

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don't have a PB2000 pro here and I figured the RP1200SW will go on sale periodically so it makes sense to me.

[@JR-ho5qm]

Good job Klipsh! How would this compare to a Emotiva RS11 ? Thanks for the content, you are by far the most detailed Sub woofer reviewer out there!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Sadlly the RS11 is discontinued so it's a moot point now :( The RS11 was smaller & more compact overall but brought a similar level of force and perofmance to the table. It was a nice little hidden gem and those who got one on clearance for around $850 got a fantastic sub.

[@iansteventon4221]

Hello mate , I've just ordered this based on your review. I had 2 svs sb-1000 pros but sold them for this bad boy. ( probably add another 1 at a later date) We pay a lot more in uk ( these are £999) so I'm hoping I'll enjoy it . Thanks for your review .

[@NemoPropaganda]

This will be a good upgrade for you, the single RP1200SW will be considerably more forceful around 20-40hz versus the pair of SB1000 pro's you had. It's not the quickest bass in the world (vented, no surprise) but the low end force of this sub is something I still think about sometimes. Klipsch really nailed the tuning of this model very nicely.

[@iansteventon4221]

@@NemoPropaganda ah thank you my friend! I feel better about my purchase now ( coming on Monday) this is mainly for movies I'd say 70% movies 20% music and a bit of TV. Always a worry for me making a purchase as I can't demo, so been watching your videos and this seems my best option for around £1000 . 👌

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@iansteventon4221 yeah it can be stressful sometimes buying blind but based on everything you're saying it sounds like you're a perfect fit for the RP1200SW, start with the freq low, I kept mine around 40-50hz most of the time.

[@iansteventon4221]

@@NemoPropaganda I'm gonna be using it with my denon avr mate. So I will use the lfe input and turn dial on sub all way to lfe . Cross over on my avr is normally set to 60hz ( q acoustics 3050i floor x 4 & q acoustics 2050i x 4 heights ) At least that's what I normally do 🙋. My usage is basically movies 70% music 20% other 10%.

[@garyausten5939]

I ordered an rp1200sw last week and expect it next Wednesday. It's going to replace my spl120. The new sub will dig down an extra 6 dB so I should be able to FEEL the boom :)

[@NemoPropaganda]

that should be a notable upgrade, enjoy!

[@garyausten5939]

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks :) My dad and sibs will think I'm off my rocker, though!

[@dylanlewis3647]

Not going to lie, I thought klipsch was basically Bose level marketing but couldn’t deliver great sound quality. Your review and recommendation have definitely changed how I view the brand

[@pnichols6500]

The Klipsch Heritage Services are some of the best sounding speakers in the world.

[@robo2901]

I have the RP1600 & they test as well as the comparable SVSs.

[@NemoPropaganda]

nice, yeah that's a big boy!!!!

[@wheelbasemedia5814]

I think the RSL's remote control and the lower price would win me over. The amp has more power, too. Although I think the Klipsch is much nicer to look at.

[@NemoPropaganda]

if the size isn't an issue the 12s is value king under $1000.

[@anthonygreene834]

I just grabbed a pair of these to go with the rp8000f mk2s. I can't wait to set them up. They are replacing a pair of spl-150 subs.

[@Apercy021]

​@NemoPropaganda would you take the 12s over the klipsch? Price and space irrelevant

[@CoconutBanger]

I'm starting my first system with the same towers. Thoughts on the RSL 12s? I'm leaning toward a pair of them as well.

[@wheelbasemedia5814]

@@CoconutBanger see his review on the 12S.

[@aspjake123]

I like the power indicator front for my choice, Would be ideal to have two and have a selector switch to enable both/front or back/none! PS I got the 16 and OMG it really almost is overkill.

[@john26262]

I wish that Klipsch would make a Heritage Series subwoofer to match my Heresy IV's.

[@zrhapp]

I've got one. It's an SW-12 from 1994. All wood, walnut trim, and it still works great.

[@pnichols6500]

Yep, black woofer, matching veneer and same grills.

[@sleeper1023]

Very compelling. I might pick up a pair.

[@stevenshelp1107]

I still think that there is too much competition for this sub to be worth it. The monolith 15 v1 can still be gotten for 1000 dollars which just obliterates this thing and rsl's sub def. Is hard to pass up for 200 cheaper. Hsu research again for similar to same price kills this with their 15 inch model. Rythmiks offereings run about the same price comparatively but are famously known for their supreme sound quality. Im more interested in their rp1600sw being a pb16 ultra upsetter. A very attractive, cost effective yet high performance sub.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Personally I havn't seen the monolith 15 under $1200 new which puts it at 50% more money than the RSL 12S and 25% more than the RP1200SW which is too new to have gone on sale yet. Hsu's $1000 15" is a sealed sub that most likely will not shame the RP1200SW and don't forget to add $100 or more for shipping, while they do have a vented 15" its a lot more money and again plus shipping. As far as the Rythmik they're mostly US only so people outside the USA need alternatives. The RP1200SW is really competing with the PB2000 Pro in my eyes, it's a little cheaper, will probably go on sale for even less, sure you get a few less features but you're also paying less so it's totally got its place in my book. I think its easy to glance around and think its not wroth it but when you start crunching the numbers its easy to see the RP1200SW will make a lot of sense for a lot of people.

[@scottmoody7413]

F3 of Klipsch is 17 hz, Mono is 19 hz. Crappy frequency response compared to the Klipsch.

[@jarablue]

Dont tell people they are wrong. They not gon like it.

[@jessicaembers924]

I wanna get 2 of their 1600's

[@NemoPropaganda]

what's stopping you :)

[@ohamalai]

I just bought RP-280Fs. I really want the RP-1200SW (or 1400) but it takes so much space!

[@NemoPropaganda]

I just reviewed the Rythmik LV12M which is a fairly compact vented 12 if this one is too big, checkk that out.

[@madcrabber1113]

Looks nice but it's connections and features aren't what I need. With Klipsch if you wait long enough it will be on sale for at least 40% off if not more which is great imho.

[@BiffTannenBTTF]

I think it would have been a very good move to use this product to move away from the bronze cone. Something a little more serious looking.

[@NemoPropaganda]

yeah, the color is polarizing for sure!

[@roccofilippi1418]

So I just ordered the RP16sw. Actually 2 of them. Where do I start before I run Audissey? Set the sub to full range, gain to half, Hook up to the LFE, and set the reciever to LFE + Main. Sound right?

[@NemoPropaganda]

damn you got the big boys! congrats!!! I'm not a huge theater guy but that sounds about right. The guys in my free discord could help you a little better if you want to hop in there. Link is in the description.

[@roccofilippi1418]

@@NemoPropaganda funny thing is my half basement is tiny. Lol

[@cartikg]

Thanks for doing this video, I am stuck between Klipsch Rp1200 and SVS PB 2000 pro, unfortunately, there aren't any comparison reviews out there to see which one is better off both for movies and music. Appreciate any thoughts you can share :)

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi bro, they're actually very similar in terms of overall sound, bass quality, and low end force. The RP1200SW is $300 cheaper right now so that makes it very attractive. The SVS obviously has the cellphone app and you get a better warranty, SVS warranty is 5 years on everything while Klipsch is 2 years on the amp and 5 years on the driver/cabinet.

[@scottrutledge4008]

How does the RP1200SW compare to the REL T/7X and T/9X? I have both of the RELs (plus a T/5X) and they are simply phenomenal speakers. They are so lightening quick, I have them paired with my Magnepan LRS+ magneplanar speakers, and they keep up with the transient response perfectly, and with ease - disappearing into thin air, adding so much musicality and clear, clean separation in bass regions. I'm not sure I'd ever consider (very seriously anyway) replacing my RELs, BUT, I do own a pair of Klipsch RP-600Ms and a RP-504C center channel and all 3 of them are amazing speakers in their own rite, truly transparent and so present. The RELs reinforce the low end on these Klipsch's equally well, but it's probably more noticeable when they're reinforcing the LRS+'s simply because the soundstage and speed of the Maggies is just so darned quick. Anyway, interested in hearing from anyone that has happened to have done this comparison - the new RP1200SW vs. the REL T/7X or T/9X. Thanks!

[@NemoPropaganda]

that comparison doesn't really make sense, the RP1200 is atlease 3x the size and a vented design.

[@santiagoezquerrocordon1470]

What about chest slam feeling? For chest slam I think you need power and tightness, and I think the new RP klipsch series lack a. Bit of both compare with some of the competition. What do you think? BTW, the rival of rp-1200 I would say it is svs pb2000, not the svs pb1000. Comparing it with a smaller and 10" driver is not fair.

[@NemoPropaganda]

the pb1000 has been a 12" sub for a few years now. You must be thining of the older discontinued model.

[@demonreturns4336]

@@NemoPropaganda I think if you said the pb1000 pro then people will know which one you're talking about more easily

[@NemoPropaganda]

​@@demonreturns4336 people will assume things no matter what I say.

[@deanryder4922]

Nemo like what you’re doing on your channel .On the fence rel x9 sq type ,,,klipsch rp12 spl type slam in your chest or something in the middle ? Cheers

[@NemoPropaganda]

those are two really different subs my man, what's your goal here? Are you building a theater and need maximum LFE? Go for the or are you biulding a dedicated 2ch stereo where ultimate extension is not the primary concern and insstead you want subtle bass detail & fidelity to shine through?

[@Audfile]

A hell of a driver in there!

[@KimmoJaskari]

They had to redesign and thicken the grill, just to accommodate the ultra long throw of these new custom drivers. It's really impressive what they've done overall, a port with almost no chuffing, massive super long throw drivers, and serious bracing and big size of the cabinets.

[@Audfile]

@KimmoJaskari yeah, when I think of klipsch subs I think $120 12 inch pile of cheese. These here are serious considerations for an audiophile.

[@THERIGHTWAY8164]

the 12 799 on sale

[@LameGaming]

Need a new home theater sub, was waiting on a sale for the RSL Speedwoofer 12s but now see the Klipsch RP-1400sw on sale for $699 Which sub would you pick?

[@NemoPropaganda]

12s all day and twice on sunday. the RP range is awesome, don't get me wrong, but the 12s has a lot more clarity in its leading edges. Of course the 14" driver will most likely play louder if that is a concern.

[@LameGaming]

@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the reply! I wish I would of seen it sooner 😖 Ordered the rp1400 this morning after searching every corner of the web for reviews, numbers, and comparisons. The only info I could find was that they both extended down pretty low but that the rp1400 would exhibit some port chuff if pushed too hard down low, also read the rp1400 was louder at 25Hz and up. I would of never bought the rp1400 at MRSP but the 5 yr warranty and $699 sale price gave me fomo and so i pulled the trigger. Sonetimes I obsess over things and waiting for the RSL sale was killing me 😬 Hopefully I wont regret

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@LameGaming I don't think there was a bad decision between the two, the RP1400 trades some leading edge clarity for a fuller sound since its bigger, the 12s plays a little tighter. Both are great, if you're in my free discord post up some pics! discord.gg/QTfXwaGz

[@RayEversole]

Just got the RP-1200sw. It sounds real good but it’s not very loud compared to my old R-12SW. Any chance it’s defective? I have to put the volume up to 10 to get it about as loud as my old sub on 5. Once I put the volume up that high I get that annoying low pitch noise. All wiring and settings are equal. Thanks!!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

your old r12 is not the same sub, its an older & smaller model that likely had a higher tuning frequency. Your new sub may need completely different settings and will not have as hard of an edge to it. You may need to change the phase. Unplug the old one, only use the new one, and reverse the phase, see if that helps! If you need more help hop in the free discord!

[@fernandopiresmarques899]

In your opinion, what would be the ideal room size for this subwoofer?

[@NemoPropaganda]

hard to say since differrent rooms have different issues but I have found that vented subs seem to be more flexible in my room for some reason. My room is 10x12 and this sub didn't have any issues in my room.

[@agordon7369]

If you were looking at a $1000 budget and primarily for movies what sub would you choose. So far I’m leaning to the RSL 12S any and all opinions would be greatly appreciated.

[@NemoPropaganda]

If the size is not an issue the RSL 12s is an insane value proposition. If the size is a bit too much go for the Rythmik FVX12.

[@agordon7369]

@@NemoPropaganda I just moved and have 2 rooms in the basement I’m leaning toward the smaller room but may use the bigger room.

[@Cheeba118]

The RP-1400 is currently on sale for $699. I was saving for two Rythmik FVX12, which are roughly $900 each. What would you likely choose between the 14" and the Rythmik. I Do listen to about 60% music an 40% HT. I have the Sonus Faber Sonetto V, which you are apparently not a fan of. Would you likely go with the RP-1400 of the Rythmik FVX12? The difference in price is a bit of a concern, but not significantly. Would you consider the extra $400 for 2 Rythmik subwoofers worth it for the increase in SQ for music?

[@NemoPropaganda]

this is an easy one, the FVX12 fidelity is simply on another level. I do not believe there is another vented subwoofer in the world that can rival it in terms of fidelity. The RP1200SW is a good subwoofer and built well, but it does not match the fidelity of the Rythmik even a little.

[@Jeremy_810]

Unless there's a heck of a sale, I still don't see any logical reason to choose this over the Speedwoofer 12s... and I do like me some Klipsch

[@mikegallagher2732]

I'm a LONG time KLIPSCH FANATIC EXCEPT For their Subs.... I own 2 SVS SB 2000's ... With THAT being said, I am VERY interested in this Sub !!!!!!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

I'd say size might be a big deciding factor for a lot of people. As big as the RP1200SW is the 12S is even bigger!

[@edwarddiogu6377]

Please how does it compare to the rythmik fvx12?

[@NemoPropaganda]

FVX12 is an SQ sub, I do not believe there is a vented subwoofer in the world that can best it in terms of fidelity or transient response.

[@prasheelcheruvari101]

Hey Nemo ! Great review as always ! How would the RP-1200sw compare against REL HT 1025 for music / movie listening ? Would really appreciate your feedback?

[@NemoPropaganda]

it's gonna be the typical sealed versus ported characteristics, the sealed 1205 will be a lot better for music where quick transients can be appreciated while the much larger vented RP1200SW will have tremendously more room rumble capability for theater. You just have to decide if you're more music or more theater focused.

[@prasheelcheruvari101]

@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the response. Follow up question is how are the Klipsch musically ? Will this be a one note boom box or can it articulate bass lines and changes in key etc. I get that it may not be as tight as the sealed subs, but will one be disappointed with these for music ?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@prasheelcheruvari101 it depends how critical you are with bass, I would say generally that using a larger vented sub for music is pretty fun, it's not accurate, it's not gonna have the quickest transients or distinction but it's a lot of fun. If that's not what you're looking for but you still want a vented sub you'll want a Rythmik, their vented subs do all the good things vented subs do and all good things sealed subs do. The RSL 12s is another great vented sub that bridges the gap nicely but it's pretty big. Conversly you could just go for the pair of 1205 MK2 and call it a day.

[@prasheelcheruvari101]

​@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the inputs. While I love some fun and goosebumps, I think eventually I would look for a more natural sounding solution. Do the Klipsch bass response sound natural according to you? I am based in Toronto, Canada so no luck with getting a Demo at any stores here.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@prasheelcheruvari101 No, most vented subs would not be described as natural sounding. if you want the output capability of a large vented sub but want the better sound quality you'll need something like a Rythmik E15hp2 or Rel Predator 1510. If you don't need all that output just go for the 1205 mk2.

[@shanxac]

Hi Nemo, another great review. Nice to have another quality subwoofer in the mix. I purchased the Rythmik FVX12 based on your glowing review of it. I'm extremely happy and satisfied with the Rythmik - Thank You. How would you compare the Rythmik FVX12 with this (Klipsch RP1200SW). If budget were not a criteria, which would you choose to buy (or advise to buy) between the two?

[@wking8]

It would always be rythmik. I came from Klipsch and now have dual F18s. Yes, Klipsch has gotten better but you made the right decision my friend.

[@shanxac]

😊 ok 👍. I guess it is the FOMO thing.

[@NemoPropaganda]

FVX12 is an SQ sub, I do not believe there is a vented subwoofer in the world that can best it in terms of fidelity or transient response.

[@shanxac]

@NemoPropaganda Thanx for the reply Nemo. Your reviews help a lot of people like me in making a purchase decision, especially so in my country where we do not have an option of "Try & Buy / Return". Keep up the good work. Cheers.

[@ronniehosein7384]

Klipsch rp 1200sw vs emotiva xs15. What's your thoughts. Around the same price. Continue to keep up the great work.

[@Mudcat3434]

Neither. Get a Rythmik FVX12. Far better subwoofer from a company that solely makes subwoofers. And damn good ones. Really any of their subwoofers through all of their price ranges beat the competition until you start getting above their FV18 which I have. That is end game for me and most, but if you want more you are probably stepping up to JTR Captivators. And Rythmik has the best customer service of any brand IMO. Brian and Enrico at Rythmik will answer their cell phones and answer any question you could possibly have and may even refer you to another brand if they don't offer a solution for you. PSA is right there as well and Tom (Owner) at PSA is excellent to talk to.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I have not heard the XS15 but its price is certainly attractive!

[@davel4449]

Nemo I plan to buy the klipsh RP 8000f 2 for a complete 7.1.4 Atmos setup. Do I need to buy a klipsh subwoofer or I can go with the RSL speedwoofer 12s I wanted in the first place ? I am worried about mix matched brand.... I want a perfect integration seemless round up sound that goes together for movies and music. My receiver is a Onkyo rz50

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi Dave, my rule with subwoofers is you don't mix subwoofer brands with eachother meaning you don't have a golden ear subwoofer on the left and an SVS subwoofer on the right. Another rule that's good to follow is keep all your speakers the same brand so if your towers are Klipsch try to have Klipsch for your surrounds and center also. But yes you can totally have a different brand subwoofer than your main speakers for example all your speakers are Klipsch and maybe all your subwoofers are SVS, that would be awesomes and that's what most people do.

[@davel4449]

Thank you SO MUCH Nemo, this exactly my case all klipsh speakers front stage and surround but you sold me the RSL speedwoofer 12s so I just wanted to make sure it would sound very good and NOT mix matched with the klipsh speakers... My receiver is an Onkyo rz50 if it can help

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@davel4449 yeah that's perfect bro, the 12s is amazing!! You're gonna love it :)

[@shipsahoy1793]

One would EXPECT quality performance out of a 12” active subwoofer that cost $1000 ! Whew!

[@NemoPropaganda]

you'd expect it but its not always there *cough* velodyne.

[@shipsahoy1793]

@@NemoPropaganda Now that’s exactly the kind of content that should be broadcast at a much higher frequency and SPL ! 😉

[@NemoPropaganda]

​@@shipsahoy1793 oh bro, i made a whole video about it. I was about as critical as a reviewer can be, I think I went as far as to say they're ripping off the consumer. Search nemo propaganda velodyne, you'll find it.

[@shipsahoy1793]

@@NemoPropaganda oh, really, I must’ve missed that, although it sounds vaguely familiar. Idk, old age plays tricks on me lol I’ll have to check it out! Should be entertaining😉Thanks for letting me know.👍

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@shipsahoy1793 you can fastforward to 11:08 for comparisons where it really starts to go down hill kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnfYYYBnnpp6q68

[@erics.4113]

I hope you get the 14 or 16" version to compare!

[@NemoPropaganda]

no way! too big!

[@erics.4113]

@@NemoPropaganda I know, I posted the comment before watching until the end when you mentioned you wouldn't be bringing those into the room. You definitely don't want to bring the Perlisten D215s in. I think it can cause actual structural damage if your room isn't buttoned down, but boy can that do resolving bass. What a beautiful sub

[@trauma50disaster1]

If I do want the sub to do more in the mid area what feature do I look for? I have several surround speakers that don't go low and I want the sub to help them out in the 80-200hz area.

[@NemoPropaganda]

You certainly can reinforce those surrounds by adding a REL T7X to them but I think that's an expensive and complicated way to do things. I'm not a theater expert but I think you should upgrade your surrounds. Consider something like the Arendal 1723 Bookshelf S THX I just reviewed.

[@jonathan4831]

Do you expect this sub would match well with the RP-8000F IIs?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I have not heard those speakers.

[@jlang13]

I want to get it just for LFE .1 movies. I have other subs for music. I don't know if this would be outstanding for music... I'm sure it would be outstanding for movies. Music, though... You might need speed. I have the need for speed (methh actually). But for movies, this is the one to bring the thunder and lightning. Music, though... I'm on the fence.

[@NemoPropaganda]

it'll be outstanding for movies and fun for music. It's an LFE sub so for music it will be exaggerated and not accurate but it'll be fun if you enjoy a bit of exaggerated bass kind of like car audio :)

[@JayPatrol]

Svs is too expensive No matter what anyone tries to say Klipsch nice prices and well crafted

[@NemoPropaganda]

??? At normal MSRP the RP1200 and PB2000 Pro subwoofers are priced within $99 of eachother and the PB1000 Pro is $200 cheaper than the RP1200SW. Are you in a different country maybe where the prices are different?

[@censorshipBS]

$299 in America £500 in the UK. I guess we have to pay for them channel crossing somehow ❤

[@NemoPropaganda]

$299 in America? Where!?

[@censorshipBS]

@@NemoPropaganda sorry its not the same model i just realised

[@Seventhsky114]

1 Klipsch spl150 or two rsl 10s mk2? For movies.

[@NemoPropaganda]

not sure, I have not heard the SPL 150 :(

[@kurtis4572]

love my Klipsh sub. A tad boomyish but not in a bad way

[@KimmoJaskari]

These new ones are a massive step up from anything they've ever done before though.

[@alanfinney377]

Hi, what is the brand of your speaker stands?

[@NemoPropaganda]

they're long discontinued but they were the matching stands for the Revel Concerta2 M16 speakers.

[@alanfinney377]

thank you very much @@NemoPropaganda

[@jhweather]

Does this sub have the ability to melt into the background like Rythmik subs or is it obvious that there is a sub in the room like SVS?

[@NemoPropaganda]

No, that's a characteristic of SQ subs like REL or Rythmik. The RP1200SW is more in the realm of SVS but a smidgen lighter in tone.

[@michaelwright1602]

I own two of the SB-3000 subs, and find them easy to make disappear in my room, or I should say rooms. It took a bit to find the sweet spots, one in the dining room and one in the living room. And then the crossover, I set mine in that low 40Hz range, which matches well with my Zu DW6 Supremes. I run the volume in the 30's, or lower for music. Come movie night, I may bump the volume up into the high 40's to mid 50's to rattle the windows. May want to check your placement, move them around in the room, as they are fantastic subs.

[@itzjustkris7964]

How does this compare to the speedwoofer 12s

[@NemoPropaganda]

watch the video man, that's why I made the video.

[@candoslayer]

How does this compare to the Paradigm defiance x12?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don't believe in comparing large subwoofers to smaller subwoofers. Not only is there a significant size difference but they are also very different designs, furthermore I do not know your usage case, goals, or room size.

[@candoslayer]

@@NemoPropaganda Fair I am looking for 1 for a long narrow room that is both the living room and the hallway. They are the same size speaker just different port and box designs so been wondering how that changes the sound. Need something that is no more than 20 inches wide and can fill the room and hard to find review on Paradigm on youtube I get that they are a higher end brand than Klipsch

[@candoslayer]

@@NemoPropaganda It also needs to be clean and clear bass that can do both movies and music well produce that rumble when needed but cleanly and not a muddy mess like my last sub which was a klipcsh refrence 12 inch r120sw

[@candoslayer]

@@NemoPropaganda also serious in what the different port designs do.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@candoslayer got it! What you want is a Rythmik LV12M or FVX12.

[@danemoreno88]

I think it’s a fine sub but the price is what is the downfall at least for me anyways why would I pay more for the same thing or for something not as good and in my case it’s 800 rsl vs 1100 shipped 300 is a lot of savings

[@stevenshelp1107]

Theyre certainly going SVS's route, which isn't bad. People are fine paying 20 percent more on the same performing product for pure aesthetic reasons. Hell I'd just be completely mind made up on PSA subwoofers if I didn't care about aesthetics and just raw performance and audio quality.

[@NemoPropaganda]

The 12s is hard to beat at its price as long as the size is not an issue but like Steven mentioned, the size/look may be an issue for some.

[@parkersgarage4216]

i just bought a onkyo reciever and 5 pc episode 500 series surround sound speaker set for 70 bucks. only thing im missing is a kick ass sub. im lookin to piss my neighbor off and this thing is currently 600. i think im gonna buy it and see if it will complete my mission. i know nothing about home stereo stuff but i can say the episode speakers sound great and are loud as hell lol. i want house shaking bass so when hes sleeping i can wake up my neighbor. you think this thing will work and do you also think its worth getting for 599? i bought a klipsch sound bar 4 yrs ago maybe 3 doesnt matter. i hooked it up and was so unimpressed i immediately took it back. got a jbl w a 12" powered sub that got way louder and way better bass for less money. ever since then i have not been a fan of klipsch at all. that sound bar was the worst ever tbh. they should have really been embarassed to put their name on that thing tbh. ever since then though ive had doubts w klipsch. maybe they can make a good powered sub haha. i'll know if my neighbor comes pounding on my door lmao. should i get a episode sub to match my speakers? is episode even any good as i have no idea lol. anyways take care and thanks in advance for any help.

[@NemoPropaganda]

This will def get the job done. If you wanna get crazier for $800 the rsl 12s is an even bigger sub and can get even louder but this klipsch is a powerhouse for sure. Episode does not have a sub on this level.

[@parkersgarage4216]

​@@NemoPropaganda in your opinion, would you say there is a 200 dollar difference between them? I scored the klipsch for 599 on sale yesterday. Glad I did because the sale is off today. I can easily send it back if the rsl is indeed worth an extra 200 np. I'm looking for car stereo style bass. I legit wanna also wake up my neighbor lol. The dude blasts his music at 3 am and wakes me up. I plan on returning the favor in spades. W music and movies I wanna feel it and shake the house lol. I appreciate the response btw.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@parkersgarage4216 the 12s is a lot bigger than i think its worth the $200 but the RP1200SW is also worth it at the sale price so its really up to you.

[@parkersgarage4216]

@@NemoPropaganda i'll try the klipsch out first. if it doesnt work out i'll get the 12s. i checked today and the klipsch is no longer on sale. luckily i found and ordered it when i did.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@parkersgarage4216 it's pretty beastly, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

[@sillym3xican]

Does anyone have sennheiser soundbars with klipsch?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I'm sure someone does.

[@ben23a31]

Nemo, great review. However, a $1k and being the RP Model this sub should have a manual phase control at the minimum. No app, no speaker line high pass terminals, no remote, no balanced connections even up to their RP1600 line. Humm....I do however think it's a great sub (sonically and build quality) but for those in a home theater set looking to get multiple 2-4+ subs those omissions could be a deal breaker when compared to the competition in those price categories. In my man cave I have 2 ported subs and I plan on adding 2 more at some point (because I get stupid like that 😂) the only thing my AVP can't do is control individual sub phase and that lack of control on the sub to me isn't a risk I can take. Keep on doing what you doing Nemo ✊🏼

[@NemoPropaganda]

I agree on the phase control & balanced inputs. I know that's really important for a lot of theater systems. App or remote I think are more "cool to have" type features and high-pass is generally not found on larger subs so I think that's okay.

[@ben23a31]

@@NemoPropaganda agree on the larger subs with the high level connections, remote and app. But for 2 channel listeners wanting either the 10" or 12" model their amp may not have a sub out rca do those line levels (like the RSL subs do) and if they have stand mounts... they are out of gas with this line up.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@ben23a31 not entirely, there are fairly inexpensive high to low converters one can buy for as little as $15 that will do the trick. They're car audio parts but its been a long time home audio hack. As long as you buy the cheap passive ones that don't need power you can basically add sub outputs to any amp that may not have it and they're small enough to tuck away out of sight :)

[@ben23a31]

@@NemoPropaganda oh okay, good info. Thx ✊🏼

[@SteveZ919]

This or SVS SB2000 ?

[@NemoPropaganda]

this would be more comparible to the PB2000 Pro, if space is not a concern and you want the most output the RP1200 SW will give you a larger sense of scale and a fuller sound overall compared to the smaller SB2000.

[@squared80]

Where are the measurements? Did I just miss them? Time stamp?

[@NemoPropaganda]

What are you referring to?

[@squared80]

@@NemoPropaganda would like to see a graph of where it starts falling off. 20Hz?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@squared80 i do not believe I suggested or said there would be any such graph or measurement in this video.

[@squared80]

@@NemoPropaganda Ok, just making sure I didn't miss it. I've been waiting for someone to review actual measurements, not company stated measurements. Thanks anyway.

[@TbirdThunderHD]

Now, if they'd just go on sale... There's no way I'm paying MSRP for these.

[@NemoPropaganda]

They were literally selling for $599 all month. Sale just ended yesterday. I’m sure it’ll happen again.

[@TbirdThunderHD]

@@NemoPropaganda Yes, I know. I missed the sale. I'll have to wait for the next sale. (Kicking self!)

[@jcjc8939]

Disclaimer: Klipsch falsely advertised the RP1200SW on their site with a 3 prong AC Input, I just bought one and it is NOT a 3 prong, it is 2 prong. Was going to use a IEC right angle adapter so I could but it up against the back wall

[@NemoPropaganda]

Cant you just use a different right angle adapter or pull the middle prong out of the one you got?

[@kockster1]

How does the arendal 1961s compare to this sub? I currently own 1961s. Is this an upgrade?

[@NemoPropaganda]

this is not an upgrade or a downgrade, it's just different. This is a vented sub, your 1961 1s is sealed.

[@kockster1]

@@NemoPropaganda Okay one last question. In Europe rp1200 and Arendal 1961 1V are pretty much the same price. Which one would you choose?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@kockster1 I never heard the 1961 1V, I'm sure its very good though.

[@bpalpha]

$1k is a lot, even for this sub. The svs micro is a little less than this and I don't imagine their performance is that far off. I'm sure this is a good subwoofer, but pricing these days is so far off from what it used to be.

[@NemoPropaganda]

the performance is EXTREMELY far off. Even a pair of 3000 Micro cannot come close to what a single RP1200SW can do. Maybe if you had 6 micros it would come close.

[@demonreturns4336]

My guy just compared a kiddy fisher price toy like the SVS micro to this subwoofer lol 😂 This would be like saying some kindergarten kids are at not the far off from college players at basketball

[@deankim6687]

That’s a long sub.

[@NemoPropaganda]

thats what she said.

[@deankim6687]

@@NemoPropaganda 😆😆😆

[@backrack01]

2 much $ for a klipsh sub.

[@NemoPropaganda]

what makes you think that?

[@backrack01]

@NemoPropaganda unless things have changed.. their subs were notorious for stop working or having issues. At least they were when I started this hobby during the pandemic. My first speakers were Klipsh speakers and almost everyone in the klipsh audio community wouldn't buy their subs. Speakers.. yes.. but they wouldn't buy the subs. Short life span I guess.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@backrack01 time will tell I suppose :). Hopefully this new range is more reliable.