I threw away my Subwoofer! | Klipsch RP-1200SW vs SPL-120 Dyno Battle!

[@ozarkguns1]

The 1200 is $800 The SPL-120 is $400. I think 2 SPL-120 will sound better than one 1200.

[@magnat505]

I just got the RP-1400SW and that thing is just crazy, its really scary how much bass it produces, its fast, its loud and most importantly it goes deep. In this price range I haven't heard anything that can beat it.

[@jlsnr]

Hey, how about the RP-1400SW past this time? And about the depth, is it go really down to 16 Hz? Is it strong, the bass below 20 Hz?

[@magnat505]

@@jlsnr I'm still using it, and i'm still just as hyped as I was 5 months ago. Sometimes the bass drops below what I can hear, but then I feel it. Truly amazing

[@jlsnr]

@@magnat505 Great! Nice to know it! I was really wondering myself if its 500 watts RMS would be enough to feed this 14" speaker to reproduce deep and loud bass. What about volume that you usually listen to, on AVR and in the back of subwoofer? And, if you don't mind, I would like to suggest you to play a song called "Resonance Evil", from Bassotronics. Be careful with your house structure...

[@magnat505]

@@jlsnr My AVR is the denon X6700-H with main T+A Criterion 2000 speakers. I let auddessey do its work when the subwoofer was on level 2, then turned the volume op to 4. The AVR in movies is on -57DB, which usually shakes the windows, couch, floor. The song sounds heavy, but Im used to songs like that. I love to play on my level from whiz khalifa. That makes a heavy impression on a good sub

[@jlsnr]

​@@magnat505Very nice!! Volume is realtively low, on sub, it seems to have a very sensitive speaker! I could Imagine if you turn the volume up, till reference level, the amount of bass it would put out! Nice choice, play Wiz Khalifa heavy bass songs, they should really pressurize your room!

[@Darkside_C7]

This is a great review and really shows what you're getting if you decide to upgrade from the predecessor.

[@DivineAV]

Thanks my brother. We appreciate you watching.

[@mpugne]

Now if you have the old version and really like it buying another one now that you can get it cheaper might be the best option. Doubling the cone area lowers the excursion to a quarter of what was needed to produce a given spl so you will gain linearity and lessen the chances of port noise, and gain about 6db of output over just the one you have.

[@pobinr]

Buy not change frequency curve in terms of getting lower bass

[@KimmoJaskari]

The rounded corners also contribute to its rigidity, I believe - and the speaker grill had to be thicker just to keep it far away from the ultra high excursion new driver, or so I heard. Very impressive first impressions of the new Klipsch; they even addressed the issues the older gen had with fragile amps, they claim to have gotten well on top of that issue this generation. Also - you can get huge SPL out of a small box, but you need to quadruple the amp power or some such, a bigger ported box is way easier. :)

[@Morphz_Unlimited]

There isn’t a massive difference between these two subs. The spl made more than rated rms while the 1200 made less that stated rms. The spl meter showed the spl 120 was louder which is why you probably cut the vid short. The only thing I gleaned from this is that the spl-120 is still a viable option if you are looking for a Klipsch sub.

[@sabbathAndy]

Awesome mates! Do all of em!

[@TheRetlaw54]

Hooked mine up on Saturday gave me the giggles. Replaced the same model the r112sw

[@shanedaiken2831]

Great information, great video!

[@xKMA371x]

True. The Spl120 line...I own 2 they can hit hard in movies and music ..On the first day owning them i knew the box design was way to small For al that air pushing at high levels. Bottom chamber space muffled is reckless of klipsch on a nice sounding sub or subs!..Might look into the Newer stuff later on. But for now my daul 120s are still running al most over 4yrs now..

[@DivineAV]

Yeah, we’re on the same page. That thing feels like it wants to rip its way out of the box.

[@JohnJohn-pr1sh]

I have one SPL-120 in my open concept living room/kitchen and I feel it’s not enough. In your opinion, should I get another SPL-120 or get the new ones?

[@scrivs1976]

Can’t be 100% sure, but the amplifier looks to be identical to that found in the SPL-150, the measurements help n confirming this. The SPL-100/120/150 all share identical PS/Amp PCBs (all three are marked on the board). They just stuff them differently to achieve the rated power per application. Great class D’s- IRS2092 based if I recall correctly 😎 So, same(ish) amp, and larger box. Only real advantage imo is the reduced port chuff. Not at all digging the increase in size/weight for a few hz lower extension/small spl increase. The older models look like even more of a bargain after watching your video. Thanks for the data point🤙

[@DivineAV]

Yeah, the old subs are really good if you can find a good deal on them. But I can say the amp is definitely different and improved because we had a ton of issues with the previous model. Now Klipsch is amazing and they took care of every single one of them in warranty or not. But the new ones have been absolutely rock solid. And the chuffing reduction is a huge improvement. Thanks for taking the time to comment, great thoughts

[@andrewarchuleta4614]

Awesome video I've been looking for a review video on these new subs. I just got a spl-12 a few months back and I absolutely love it. That's awesome to know these new subs are even better. That rp1200 is huge compared to the spl-12. Enjoyed the video.

[@DivineAV]

Thanks for your support. Enjoy that beast

[@JohnJohn-pr1sh]

Did you upgrade? I also have an SPL-120 but want a second sub since I feel that one is not enough for my open concept living/kitchen room. Now I don’t know if I should buy a second SPL-120 or buy these new ones 😑

[@andrewarchuleta4614]

I didnt i actually just bought a second SPL-120!!! they are one sale for 399 on crutchfield. so glad i did. I couldnt justify spending $999 for the new one and tossing the SPL. You dont know what your missing if you havent heard it, so im ok with that lol. id reccomend the svs isolation feet for the SPL120, My dishes in the kitchen cabinets would rattle like crazy untill i put the new feet on them. @@JohnJohn-pr1sh

[@OwC317]

The new subs looks amazing 🎉❤

[@Maginone2]

Would have loved to see some REW graphs, see whats the difference there in real world output with a sweep.

[@DivineAV]

Thanks for the feedback. We will consider that on the next one.

[@marcfavell]

1600SW is the SVS killer and best subwoofer ever for the money 🤑

[@DivineAV]

You said it not us 😉 Don't tempt us with video ideas! Or do, stay tuned! A lot of cool content coming your way.

[@mataiguana5]

Bring the other two bigger siblings!!! and compare them with the SPL-150.

[@pobinr]

Are these good for hi fi too? I thought you'd have checked the frequency response with a signal generator. See how good it is at 16.5 Hz

[@theaterlightman89]

Amazon has the 120 at $399 now... my thought is to wait to get a refurbished 1200 when they come up

[@DivineAV]

We sometimes have open box as well. People try out the 1200 and move to a 14 or 16 [e-mail]

[@jlsnr]

​@@DivineAVare these people thinking the RP-1200SW "weak", then they move to 14 or 16?

[@scottbeale1825]

the 1200sw is currently on sale for $650, which puts it about the same as a VTF-2 MK5. Anyone have any thoughts on how these two compare?

[@DivineAV]

The Klipsch unit puts out more RMS power. Long throw woofer, giant, in comparison. Our 2 cents. Both good woofers, but very different.

[@blueguitar5261]

Great review thanx.I have Denon 900 Stereo Amp for music and Dali Oberon 3 speakers ,i want to buy Klipsch RP1200 Sub.Some people says they dont match with Dali speakers,what is your recommendations? Thanx..

[@DivineAV]

Thank you very much. We have paired them with Dali. Feel free to shoot us an email with some pictures and room dimensions. One of our audio engineers can make some recommendations. The klipsch lineup is definitely very versatile. We are happy to help and also get you some pricing. [e-mail]

[@na93prepre]

I want to see the big dog. I’ve been contemplating ordering two of them versus SVS, HSU, etc due to their perceived value. 😊

[@DivineAV]

We have them. Video filming next week. Feel free to reach out when ready to order. Divineavinc@gmail

[@konradbak]

I dont have enough place for RP-1000SW, will SPL-120 be good enough to pair with RP-6000F II?

[@shanedaiken2831]

My Klipsch 12' sub just bought new is tube ported in the rear below the amp. How old are the video version? Mine has the squared edges but is 400W rms.

[@DivineAV]

yeah, that’s interesting. The majority are front ported. this is the latest reference premier sub compared to the previous generation

[@shanedaiken2831]

I'm in Canada is that why? Model R120 SW rated 400W 600W peak.The port is actually above the amp in the rear, not below like I previously stated. I wish I could include a pic. Bought new 3 weeks ago. Klipsch gold badge on cover and speaker with green led to upper left.Thank you for your reply.

[@DivineAV]

@@shanedaiken2831 I see! This is SPL-120. Different series but yours will still perform well. Just move it away from the corner a bit.

[@mikebass2700]

I have a smaller Klipsch sub and have really noticed the Chuffing/port flutter too. Is there anything I can do for it? I have the gain turned to only 2 and my low pass on 80 to match my crossover. This Chuffing doesn't occur all the time but is annoying when it does occur. Called Klipsch and they sent me another sub but it is still happening. Is there a setting in my av I have wrong? Enjoyed your vlog and would appreciate any thoughts.

[@caioferrari]

The solution is buy a sealed sub

[@dvspot]

I have the SPL 150 and the RP 1600SW. The SPL150 is louder, the 1600SW just digs lower.

[@DivineAV]

@@dvspot yep, the old ones are a bit more powerful as they had to reduce them just a bit and make the cabinet larger to nearly eliminate port chuffing. The new ones are cleaner, but they’re all good subwoofers. We always recommend that you don’t go above about 45 or 50% on the older woofers because the amplifiers are known to go out when pushed too hard

[@djmeltdown65]

Don't throw it away! Can I buy the amp plate from the spl-120 off of you? I live in Van Alstyne, TX.

[@DivineAV]

Mine failed. This was a bit of an issue on those particular subs. We generally recommend running that one at around 50% capacity. It tends to live in that range. Klipsch is one of the best companies out there for warranty claims. Reach out to the dealer that you bought it from and have them put in a claim. Sometimes they will take care of it out of warranty if it’s a decent size Klipsch dealer. You can also just modify it and use something like a crown or other amplifier that puts out more power. Drill a hole in the back of it and then silicone it after you make the connections

[@Konquerror]

Hey guys, great video, enjoy head to head testing. Would you recommend Rp1200 over the SVS PB2000pro? It's a 500$ premium for the SVS for us here in Australia. Also what song did you use for the SPL test?

[@DivineAV]

Thank you very much. We greatly appreciate your support and for subscribing. Honestly, the Svs will have a slight advantage, in overall output but I think the RP 1200 will be cleaner, less audible port noise, and aesthetically it’s a nicer, looking sub. You can’t really go wrong either way though.

[@jsizzle2k6]

cant comment on the pb2k pro but i had dual pb1k pros and my single rp1600 destroyed both of my svs combined. it destroying my svs sb16u as well. with minimal effort and a lower volume at that. id crank my svs and i always felt like damn. this is it ?? this klipsch has me reaching for the remote to turn it down often

[@Konquerror]

Thanks for the replies, a big sale plus a free upsize 12 to 14 finalized my decision so now i have the Klipsch RP 1400! It's an imposing box but i have no complaints about the sound in my open plan living room! great bass that you can feel and doesn't seem to struggle with anything you throw at it, keeping it at vol 7 and 80hz crossover seems to be the sweet spot that doesn't rattle the windows too much.

[@louis_3]

Quel a était le volume pendant la mesure des SPL

[@jorgenavas6704]

Hello! how are they? I have a 16 m2 living room and an integrated amplifier, I want to watch movies, CDs, streaming music. What combination do you recommend for the living room? Klipsch rp600 mkii or Klipsch rp500 mkii with a subwoofer? I saw several and I would like your recommendation if you don't mind and you are so kind . Klipsch RP-1000SW, Klipsch SPL-100 or Klipsch R-100SW? a cordial greeting from Argentina!

[@DivineAV]

hey my friend, thank you very much for reaching out. For your room, I would definitely recommend the RP 600s and 1000 SW. If budget constraints, the SPL 100 or 120 can be found at some sources. their performance is still very good but I recommend running them at around 50% gain otherwise you could experience some long-term amplification failure. The 1000sw has a five-year warranty instead of two and is a more reliable unit plus doesn’t suffer from chuffing noise. RP 500 is a bit small for the space. Thank you so much for your support!

[@jorgenavas6704]

​@@DivineAVThank you very kind!

[@RBS22]

Excellent test, I liked it...

[@DivineAV]

Thanks Ricardo. We really appreciate you watching. Have a good day buddy.

[@genuinejake9851]

At what point would you recommend 2 of these in a room?

[@DivineAV]

You could run 2 units in phase a coupe of feet away from each front corner. Bass treat the rear corners with traps and center wall with an absorption panel. You could also run front and rear opposite corners. Try the rear sub in phase and out of phase to see which one performs better. The best option would be four units. Two in phase in the front of the room and two out of phase in the rear of the room. You need an AVR that has four Sub outs and Dirac live calibration. If it’s a high end, build, I would suggest a Trinnov with the new bass wave forming. Feel free to reach out if you need any products or advice. Thanks Avoftomorrow.com

[@genuinejake9851]

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[@DivineAV]

@@genuinejake9851 hey Boss, can you send a message via text on Monday? Our office staff will help out and get you all set up. The guys in the video are Derick and Warren. They are usually a little backed up with big projects, but they are happy to schedule a call if you’re looking to work with us or grab products. Mercedes in the office is also extremely knowledgeable. She has been featured on the channel multiple times and is a full tech

[@anon8613]

the old one goes to 11 too

[@whatto1000]

Comparelos con svs o monolith directamente para ver si realmente valen la pena!!

[@tazoriginal]

All they missing are XLRs

[@DivineAV]

Yep, only downside. Although haven’t really had any hum or buzzing issues

[@wking8]

I replaced my 15 inch Klipsch subs with Rythmik 2 years ago. I will never go back

[@KevykevMovies]

This helps ALOT!

[@DivineAV]

Thanks my friend, glad you enjoyed it

[@explosivesgod2659]

So only 80more watts with a deeper fq response for double that price of one spl 120 or better know as r112sw

[@DivineAV]

We usually put these things on promo around the holiday time. The SPL 120 is typically 849, but it’s been on sale

[@explosivesgod2659]

@@DivineAV my point exactly the r112sw it’s the exact thing for 429 so again double the price this isn’t worth it what’s makes it worse is people don’t want just 1 so your talking 2 to 3 grand lmao

[@DivineAV]

@@explosivesgod2659 yeah, we’ve seen a pretty decent price jump across many manufactures in the past three years. Scoop up the older ones while you still can.

[@juniorhdez9168]

Can you compare the Klipsch R 115 vs. Klipsch RP 1600 SW. I have the Klipsch r 115 but want to know if is worth it to replace it with the new Klipsch RP 1600. Thank you

[@DivineAV]

We would, but we don’t have one of those anymore. I can tell you that the 1600 is slightly more powerful and doesn’t suffer from the same port chuffing noises. Other than that pretty similar.

[@juniorhdez9168]

Thank you for your instantanus response 😊

[@DivineAV]

@@juniorhdez9168 you’re very welcome

[@theaterlightman89]

Looking at a refurbished 1200

[@felixr6307]

The 1400 was just $699 at Adorama.

[@IbnuSakeh]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@patrikbjorling4391]

Just almost limited it...

[@dukeedward5754]

if it aint broke dont fix it.

[@DivineAV]

yeah, they haven’t had to change a lot. It’s a pretty good sub for a very reasonable price. The port flutter is the only thing that really made a pretty big difference on the new one.

[@scrivs1976]

Forgot to mention, the click-bait title is quite unbecoming- “I threw away my subwoofer…”💩

[@DivineAV]

I didn’t tell you to throw away yours. I’m just serious, I actually threw away my Subwoofer. I put it on the curb. It was rather old lol.