Neostead 2000 Dual-Tube Pump Shotgun

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Forgotten Weapons

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@ottovonbearsmark8876
@ottovonbearsmark8876 6 жыл бұрын
South African guns always look space age man. They’re so sweet
@noecarrier5035
@noecarrier5035 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, Otto VonBearsmark. That's a hilarious name. 10/10 would unite the kleinstaterai with
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 6 жыл бұрын
IKR? I love their designs.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 6 жыл бұрын
It's like they ran out of every color plastic but black at the Nerf factory. You could almost imagine the workers running around making laser noises with them.
@Piromanofeliz
@Piromanofeliz 6 жыл бұрын
Thy look like OP videogame weapons
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 6 жыл бұрын
moosemaimer pew pew pew 👉
@joshuasmit5137
@joshuasmit5137 6 жыл бұрын
As a South African I'm becoming more and more pleased as I realize just how many SA guns are featured in various games
@ax4178
@ax4178 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist... It was a cypriot guy that designed these guns.... teehee awkward
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 3 жыл бұрын
@@ax4178 Except he is South African 🇿🇦......teeeheeee awkward.
@taylorbell3213
@taylorbell3213 3 жыл бұрын
@@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 thats why he said plot twist homie
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 3 жыл бұрын
@@taylorbell3213 Are you dumb? He said plot twist, implying that the original commenter is incorrect.
@taylorbell3213
@taylorbell3213 3 жыл бұрын
@@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 yes i am dumb
@WafflePlaneRC
@WafflePlaneRC 6 жыл бұрын
"I have been told that I have to finish off the box of ammo that I started on" sounds like a good problem to have, mate.
@martinpotgieter4862
@martinpotgieter4862 6 жыл бұрын
It is such a South African thing to say :D
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 6 жыл бұрын
There are gunless children in Europe who don't have any ammo to shoot. You're going to sit at that range until you're done all your shells, young man.
@gunnergunter9425
@gunnergunter9425 6 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing when he said that!
@WKZworks
@WKZworks 6 жыл бұрын
"No beer till you finish your tequila!"
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, such a terrible problem to have. And it's pretty much self-solving!
@EsplodingBomb
@EsplodingBomb 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the ejection button be pressed while this was fully loaded!
@AlexKennett
@AlexKennett 5 жыл бұрын
EsplodingBomb I guess it would blow it load all over the place, just shells everywhere
@jackbotman
@jackbotman 5 жыл бұрын
Like spraying a deck of card into the air
@SteveReynold
@SteveReynold 5 жыл бұрын
There’s a retainer....,
@CFootprints
@CFootprints 5 жыл бұрын
Shell facial.
@Edeinawc
@Edeinawc 4 жыл бұрын
@Simo Please use the term "blow it's load" as often as possible in whenever context conceivable.
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 6 жыл бұрын
I remember asking a question about 2 years ago "what do you plan to do when you run out of different gun models to showcase." You responded: "I plan on retiring, but I'll probably be long dead before that happens."
@vusstoppyv4612
@vusstoppyv4612 6 жыл бұрын
Stanley Scalf that's a funny question. Ian will uh can't run out of firearms biographies cause there are thousands upon thousands of various firearms in this world.
@prowokator
@prowokator 6 жыл бұрын
gun jeebus neva diez! just goes back to himself (21:66 letters from youtubes)
@marvininabox
@marvininabox 5 жыл бұрын
He'll just go back and start shooting Every Single One
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 5 жыл бұрын
He'll start doing auction videos.
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord 5 жыл бұрын
As he goes he builds his reputation which expands his access. Just seems unlikely, now he barely has time to keep up with everything.
@MartinWastlund
@MartinWastlund 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like a specialist's dream; loading the tubes with two types of ammo, for different targets, and jumping out of vehicles/into tight spaces. Also looks well suited for home defense.
@australiananarchist480
@australiananarchist480 4 жыл бұрын
yeah when he mentioned you can pick which tube to use, that was my first thought. Possibly useful for hunting too? Say, buckshot in one tube and birdshot in the other, then you can essentially hunt both at the same time. Also a military/police application i just thought of! Beanbag rounds in one, lethal rounds in the other. In a hostage situation, you can quickly switch between the lethal rounds for definite threats, and beanbags for potential threats. Or in a riot, (topical ik) fire beanbags, and then if an armed criminal pops up, go for the lethals. The possibilities with this are endless!
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 3 жыл бұрын
It is really cool. Unfortunately, magazine-fed shotguns make it pretty much obsolete.
@duytran9086
@duytran9086 3 жыл бұрын
@@australiananarchist480 Exactly what I played in an FPS game called A.V.A LOL. In the game, the standard shooting mode is buck shot, then you can right click to switch to slug shot.
@mondaysinsanity8193
@mondaysinsanity8193 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brawler_1337 they definitely don't mag fed shotguns are great...until you need to actually use them in the field those mags are fucking huge and insanely heavy. You can at most carry a 25 rd drum and 1-2 10 rd mags but those will add so much weight and clumsiness the drum you'll have to abandon as you can't keep it anywheres but in the gun and carry it and the 10 rd mags will cover basically all the real estate on your vest. Tubes are faster to reload than mags, can easily be topped off, and you can carry 100 rds of shotshells on your kit, belt, in bandoliers,loose in pouches etc. However you want really far less clumsy and far far lighter the mags alone empty for shotguns are a few pounds which is a fuck load
@mondaysinsanity8193
@mondaysinsanity8193 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brawler_1337 not to mention mag fed almost completely removes one of the main advantages of shotguns and that's being able to switch out round types pretty rapidly
@LordMarchewka
@LordMarchewka 6 жыл бұрын
This thing is so ridiculously complicated and so smartly designed at the same time. I'm in love.
@dotcomgamingd5564
@dotcomgamingd5564 3 жыл бұрын
ahhh, the quake 2 super shotgun. one of my favorite designs.
@bofadeez
@bofadeez 3 жыл бұрын
thats what I was thinking
@eternalv0id_
@eternalv0id_ 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best designs indeed
@HQ_Default
@HQ_Default 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that's what my mind immediately went to. Two "barrels", pump action, it even has the weird padded carry handle. All it needs is a grey & green paint job and it'll be perfect.
@mr.pavone9719
@mr.pavone9719 Ай бұрын
That's where I recognized it from!
@hjp14
@hjp14 6 жыл бұрын
You've heard of the HK Slap; now, prepare yourselves for the Neostead Chop!
@MrHalonoob117
@MrHalonoob117 6 жыл бұрын
hjp14 I laughed way to hard at that, thank you
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 4 жыл бұрын
Good gun pun
@JamesthePizzaMan
@JamesthePizzaMan 4 жыл бұрын
Valhalan guardsman That gun pun was a tun of fun!
@floo1465
@floo1465 4 жыл бұрын
James Worden Thun gun pun wun aun tun ofun fun!
@leewenstien1819
@leewenstien1819 4 жыл бұрын
Would this be qualified for the use of Gun Fu
@tumate45
@tumate45 4 жыл бұрын
I never tought that the Quake 2 super shotgun could possibly be inspired by this weapon.
@Rags
@Rags 6 жыл бұрын
Fond, fond memories of using this gun with slugs in Bad Company 2. Those were the days!
@DeosPraetorian
@DeosPraetorian 6 жыл бұрын
Sniped a few pilots with it
@hakjobtm7472
@hakjobtm7472 6 жыл бұрын
The slugs, man...
@thefizz9521
@thefizz9521 6 жыл бұрын
The days where slugs were actually like irl slugs
@iTzGerimaxx
@iTzGerimaxx 6 жыл бұрын
Arica Harbour
@Bobbydyland
@Bobbydyland 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Shotgun slug sniping was brilliant fun.
@spot1401
@spot1401 4 жыл бұрын
One "April fool's Day" in the future, a very nasty person will take one of those futuristic looking outer casings, fill it up with ball bearings, exotic small parts an a lot of strong springs, hand it to Ian and say "you can open it up but I must warn you, the inner workings are VERY complex"
@Kerithanos
@Kerithanos 3 жыл бұрын
Ian: "What the hell you need ball bearings for?" Said nasty person (played by Chevy Chase): "It's all ball bearings nowadays!"
@Meph648
@Meph648 6 жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing in this whole video is the intact plastic. I have confirmed that there are at least 6 of these shotguns in my country, and all of them have plastic furniture that has cracked and broken simply by virtue of being cheap plastic. I burn-tested small shavings of the Neostead 2000 plastic, and it's really cheap ABS recycled sewer pipe when these should be made from 30% glass fiber fill nylon at the very least.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the production gun I disassembled is unfired. The one we were shooting has a stock made of much sturdier material.
@Meph648
@Meph648 6 жыл бұрын
Right, sorry. For the examples floating around in the wild, I have to say it's a real shame about the plastic. I have 3D scanned the fore-ends and I'm trying to see if I can have examples machined from aluminum. If you'd like to be kept in the loop for this project, you you can send me an email at unlimitedshootingworks@gmail.com Thank you, I really enjoy all your content.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 6 жыл бұрын
Great info - crying damn shame about such a seemingly well engineered firearm(as complicated as it is, if there were mechanical problems, you'd think they'd be evident with the first cycling) receiving such absolutely disgustingly shoddy plastics. There's a number of alternatives that they could've used that would hold up better, especially with fiberglass reinforcing.
@SmilingDevil
@SmilingDevil 6 жыл бұрын
There could be an aftermarket demand then....
@alekxu
@alekxu 5 жыл бұрын
You know, recycled material for the environment. Winner gets to live longer..
@Mikki-Moo
@Mikki-Moo 5 жыл бұрын
I see you are a blood donor, Ian. I am a volunteer paramedic for the Red Cross here in Austria, so I can whole heartedly say, I respect every blood donor including you! An unofficial thank you from the Red Cross!
@wulfman15
@wulfman15 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it's complicated, but it's absolutely brilliant. This was fun to watch get taken apart.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 6 жыл бұрын
Lest we forget, conventional pumps are cludgy nightmares too. There's a reason why the shorter disassembly videos for 870s and M500s are ~8 minutes and most are closer to 20. A lot of fiddly parts that can be installed incorrectly.
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva 5 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS yeah it's shocking that such a simple gun to use is so difficult to take apart, while some of the guns that seem like they would be more complex (ARs, etc) disassemble easily. I guess the old Steve jobs saying "it's harder to make something simple" is true
@AnthonyHandcock
@AnthonyHandcock 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite sort of engineering. The sort you admire whilst thinking "but why did they bother?"
@Drrolfski
@Drrolfski 6 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of videos that make this channel unique. There is hardly any footage on this "unicorn" gun out there, let alone one that explains it all as nicely as this channel does.
@kraaidievoel
@kraaidievoel 5 жыл бұрын
Good comment I was thinking the same
@MemestiffGaming
@MemestiffGaming 5 жыл бұрын
It really lives up to the name of the channel
@nowlindventura5015
@nowlindventura5015 5 жыл бұрын
Wish they made more of these. You could have two types on shells and deliberately choose which shell type to fire. Very neat.
@Reaper5-3
@Reaper5-3 2 жыл бұрын
There's a similar shotgun called UTAS-15 which is a 12ga with 2 side by side 7 round tubes. The DP-12 is another similar one, but that has 2 barrels.
@bloodhit1
@bloodhit1 6 жыл бұрын
That shotgun was beast in the Bad Company 2.
@enen7188
@enen7188 6 жыл бұрын
load slugs in and now its a sniper.
@aethertech
@aethertech 6 жыл бұрын
one shot kill on any body part in hardcore mode. reload cancel for uber rpm.
@jamesyeager8490
@jamesyeager8490 6 жыл бұрын
Bloodhit even moreso in Bad Company 1
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 жыл бұрын
Bloodhit DAMN THE DAMAGE I LOVE IT
@MoeAji
@MoeAji 6 жыл бұрын
It was hilariously bugged to the point where you can snipe people across the map.
@Zorbatron
@Zorbatron 6 жыл бұрын
What an ingenious design. They really thought of everything, and assembled it all in such a unique and elegant manner. Bravo!
@Nnnope
@Nnnope 6 жыл бұрын
"I was told we have to finish the box of ammo" is the new "there's leftover cake who wants it?"
@KickyFut
@KickyFut 4 жыл бұрын
What's this "leftover cake" of which you speak of?😕
@ZacharySkan
@ZacharySkan 3 жыл бұрын
No it's the new version of "19 dollar fortnite card. Who wants it?"
@maxpulido4268
@maxpulido4268 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZacharySkan free fortnite cards here! See me in my van.
@saintofall8527
@saintofall8527 5 жыл бұрын
Everybody: The keltec ksg is the first dual tube bullpup shotgun. Forgotten weapons: I'm about to end this mans whole career.
@samsonn25
@samsonn25 5 жыл бұрын
he said that
@saintofall8527
@saintofall8527 4 жыл бұрын
@Joe Blow its what we like to call, in the business, a joke
@stevethomas5980
@stevethomas5980 3 жыл бұрын
@@saintofall8527 BASED AND GUN JESUS PILLED
@K-Anon-30
@K-Anon-30 6 жыл бұрын
Ian Karate chops the gun at 1:10
@krpajda
@krpajda 6 жыл бұрын
KIP also at 18:00
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 6 жыл бұрын
We need a remix with plenty of "HAI-YA!" sound effects.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 6 жыл бұрын
From the makers of the HK slap now bring you the Neo-chop!
@studyinsteel5186
@studyinsteel5186 6 жыл бұрын
He uses Karate chops for the opposite reason he uses a pen.
@ivymike83
@ivymike83 5 жыл бұрын
I love the insights you can glean from an engineering perspective on a firearm like this. Some really great examples of 'reversing' some common firearm design elements (like moving the barrel instead of the bolt) and that twin tube mechanism looks super complex, but functions in such a straight forward way! Ian, thanks for finding and visiting the folks who own such a rare beast!
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 6 жыл бұрын
These really should come back on the commercial market. I would take this over the current crop of barely functional multi-tube shotguns.
@jayzenitram9621
@jayzenitram9621 6 жыл бұрын
Similar but cooler, you can get a Tavor 12. I haven't heard of any reliability issues with that, then again there's a lot of stuff I haven't heard ...
@arsenal_616
@arsenal_616 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't take much to make the KSG look like hot garbage. But yeah, I'd love to see these on the US market.
@Kizron_Kizronson
@Kizron_Kizronson 6 жыл бұрын
Negotiate a production licence and set up a US factory. The higher production cost of the complexity will be slightly balanced by the , "buy something vaguely the right shape and mash it 'till it fits." idea used in this design.
@ootdega
@ootdega 6 жыл бұрын
The KSG works. The UTS15 does not, and for 5 years they haven't even bothered to try fixing their $800 shotgun. Which is $100 more than the KSG.
@aspenfacer-valentine4397
@aspenfacer-valentine4397 6 жыл бұрын
Kizron Kizronson Not really... I doubt the average gun maker has a forging machine capable of making a barrel that way. It's only used by the really high end gun makers like FN from what I've seen.
@AaronAlso
@AaronAlso 5 жыл бұрын
Every time you showcase a firearm from a South African designer I am amazed at how they are built. In some respects it's like reinventing the wheel, but at the same time I can respect that they aren't just copying previous designs from other weapons.
@stewartw.9151
@stewartw.9151 5 жыл бұрын
That is the result of sanctions on any equipment and supplies on many kinds and especially firearms, parts etc until 1994, perhaps a bit earlier, against SA. Guys had to make a plan here with what was available.
@VonFatCat
@VonFatCat 6 жыл бұрын
Germany over engineers everything South Africa: oi you kak hold me beer
@ItsRawdraft2
@ItsRawdraft2 5 жыл бұрын
Difference is, the South African things work properly
@bunnieskitties293
@bunnieskitties293 5 жыл бұрын
@@ItsRawdraft2 MAG-7 wants to have a word with you.
@blaisechalmers1464
@blaisechalmers1464 5 жыл бұрын
@@ItsRawdraft2 are you on drugs?
@Gidi66
@Gidi66 5 жыл бұрын
Well a lot of boers are of German descent the other 2 large groups are Dutch and British
@EasterTurkey
@EasterTurkey 4 жыл бұрын
@@kg4boj "Don't judge me because I'm claiming everything I say is a fact and that protects me from all harm!" You're a genuinely deluded individual with an inflated belief in your own intelligence. Under your logic, you may not criticize this statement because it is factual.
@mosipd
@mosipd 6 жыл бұрын
If the Remington 870 is the Honda Accord of shotguns, the Neostead is the Cadillac 8-6-4.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 6 жыл бұрын
its like the designer decided to reinvent the wheel then the axle, then the cart, then the horse, the harness, ect ect...
@Mr.Marbles
@Mr.Marbles 6 жыл бұрын
PsychoLucario and he tried to do it with as many parts as humanly possibl
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva 5 жыл бұрын
Passion project for sure
@DeHerg
@DeHerg 4 жыл бұрын
@Holger H. Shit, we have to step up our game again. "Achim, bring die Atomuhr und den Phasenrichter! Hier steht die Ehre auf dem Spiel!"
@BeskuitenBroffie
@BeskuitenBroffie 4 жыл бұрын
yeah and unfortuanetly thats why the designer eventually hated the gun. He said so on the podcast :(
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 4 жыл бұрын
If you're climbing in and out of armored vehicles, the bullpup design is very helpful.
@CharlesHuse
@CharlesHuse 6 жыл бұрын
I have a KSG and it's a great shotgun. If Keltec were to incorporate some of the features of the Neosted 2000 into the KSG, they would have a really great gun. What I like about the KSG is the manual tube selector. In the center position, it actually blocks both tubes from feeding rounds to the chamber. This is actually a great safety feature as it allows you to extract an unfired shell from the chamber without cycling another from the magazine into the chamber. The only other shotguns I am aware of that have a feed stop feature are the Benelli Novas.
@VisualBasic6
@VisualBasic6 6 жыл бұрын
OK WOAH CHILL OUT THERE. Iv been searching for YEARS for this thing after I saw it in the Battlefield franchise YEARS ago. Only saw props and airsoft NEVER the real thing. THIS IS COOOOOOOOOOL
@eobardthawne3333
@eobardthawne3333 6 жыл бұрын
Where is the Airsoft replica?
@159Fender159
@159Fender159 6 жыл бұрын
This was like the best shotgun in the original Bad Company. Even at my young age I thought this was a peculiar weapon.
@hobbitilius
@hobbitilius 6 жыл бұрын
For having such complicated functions, the gun itself seems to actually be quite simply constructed. A really odd but incredible specimen this is.
@Ya_Boy_Bruh
@Ya_Boy_Bruh 4 жыл бұрын
Watched dozens of your videos over the past few weeks and this is one of the most unique firearms I’ve seen, very interesting!
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 6 жыл бұрын
The Quake II Super Shotty! :D
@97thCenturyFox
@97thCenturyFox 6 жыл бұрын
So the Strogg were defeated by South Africa!
@damnedlegionaire
@damnedlegionaire 6 жыл бұрын
Dinner-fork tongue *HUH*
@obsol33t77
@obsol33t77 6 жыл бұрын
all squad leaders, coordinate with sister teams
@lucasartore161a
@lucasartore161a 6 жыл бұрын
"Marines, we're at 5% ground force operational status"
@NotOneOfUs
@NotOneOfUs 6 жыл бұрын
I *knew* this looked familiar!
@Fightosaurus
@Fightosaurus 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, you rock brother! Love getting to see all these amazing rarities. For this American, seeing these SA guns are especially cool.
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 6 жыл бұрын
"What can we do to make a bullpup shotgun safer?" "Let's make everything super complicated and intricate and working together!"
@Dafmeister1978
@Dafmeister1978 6 жыл бұрын
Is there any practical reason you couldn't just put a vertical foregrip onto the pump handle to keep your hand out of the muzzle blast?
@eddyguizonde401
@eddyguizonde401 6 жыл бұрын
it might crack under the repeated strain and recoil? it might unbalance the gun too much? it might work too well? it would be too simple a solution and the engineers would gripe?
@CaptainCiph3r
@CaptainCiph3r 6 жыл бұрын
Dafydd Flower there were people who thought that, KSG included, until they started breaking off and causing even more issues.
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the chainsaw grip offered for many shotguns. could be handy for a low slung shooting from the hips, though I am not sure how practical they really are if you want to, I don't know, aim or fire from the shoulder?
@shred1894
@shred1894 Жыл бұрын
Basically the Keltec KSG before Keltec even dreamed of a bullpup shotgun and made in South Africa.
@monkeywithocd
@monkeywithocd 5 жыл бұрын
That's some Half-Life level reverb in that firing range.
@nunyabidness9257
@nunyabidness9257 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be the most interesting firearm I have ever seen from a mechanical and manufacturing standpoint..
@Chevypotamus
@Chevypotamus 6 жыл бұрын
Bad Company!
@Eksistenssi
@Eksistenssi 6 жыл бұрын
this with slugs
@DMNSMN
@DMNSMN 6 жыл бұрын
Or dragons breath
@aethertech
@aethertech 6 жыл бұрын
wrong game
@michagebicki5714
@michagebicki5714 6 жыл бұрын
Someone tag Russianbadger here
@MrCrazyMoon2
@MrCrazyMoon2 6 жыл бұрын
i knew i used this shotgun in a game before but couldn't put my finger on it ... thanks for reminding me.
@chuckmangione4747
@chuckmangione4747 4 жыл бұрын
Bad company 2 is the only reason I recognize some of these. That game had all the cool guns you never heard of.
@TroopperFoFo
@TroopperFoFo 6 жыл бұрын
Such a cool gun. Ever since I saw it in Bad company 2 I wanted one. It was also in Shadow ops red Mercury which I think it the first fps to have it.
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 6 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you finally did the Neostead 2000! This was a great video.
@seven-sixtwo762
@seven-sixtwo762 6 жыл бұрын
this was a beast on Bad Company 2 especially with slugs
@jeff3784
@jeff3784 6 жыл бұрын
This thing with magnum ammo perk at Port Valdez. Shoothing them down out of the sky as they dropped with their chute? Man.... those were good times.
@verrueckteriwan
@verrueckteriwan 6 жыл бұрын
Sniping Sniper with a Shotgun across the map :D good old times...
@DrTopLiftDPT
@DrTopLiftDPT 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 жыл бұрын
Seven-Six Two ikr 😂 i love this game
@100GTAGUY
@100GTAGUY 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff I did just the opposite, I shot them with this from my chute on the way down haha
@glockparaastra
@glockparaastra 5 жыл бұрын
Unique design. Good luck putting all that together! Lovely old Swartklip ammo! I still have some!
@thr0ne1997
@thr0ne1997 6 жыл бұрын
That's a piece of engineering art man.
@greghardy9476
@greghardy9476 14 күн бұрын
Ingenious design. Safety led to better function. By reversing the pump, made it more instinctive to hold tight to shoulder.
@MirakTp
@MirakTp 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing Shotgun, especially in BC2 You just gotta love it
@tomw.6511
@tomw.6511 6 жыл бұрын
"Operate this thing briskly and with purpose." Sounds like good advice for a lot of things!
@williamduffy1227
@williamduffy1227 3 жыл бұрын
... and don't short stroke it. 😅😅
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 6 жыл бұрын
* production gun too fragile to shoot * fires prototype instead On a more serious note, I wonder why we haven't seen more bullpup shotguns. The biggest downside to the bullpup configuration is swapping magazines, but the vast majority of shotguns are still tube-fed anyway.
@tamlandipper29
@tamlandipper29 6 жыл бұрын
I would guess that bullpup shotguns originated with a requirement from people riding around in armoured vehicles. With the end of apartheid I guess less need?
@hunglikeahorse120
@hunglikeahorse120 6 жыл бұрын
Your comment got me thinking about a Styer AUG chambered for .410 slugs. She'd be a nasty little devil.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 6 жыл бұрын
what about having it in car next to you for police? not bad idea either.
@BadlanderOutsider
@BadlanderOutsider 6 жыл бұрын
There's several reasons: the first is that a bullpup isn't really necessary for most people who want shotguns; the primary sales of shotguns outside of the US is for sporting use and so NEEDING a shorter gun isn't really necessary; useful in some circumstances, but worth developing whole new guns? In addition, many countries have barrel and overall length restrictions on their shotguns, so this can work against it in many cases by limiting the market which is one of the reasons why Kel-Tec made their very long version of the KSG. Military units also typically do not use shotguns in an offensive capacity and so a shortened pump action shotgun can fill the utilitarian role (though some units have used bullpup shotguns, they tend to be specialists). In addition there's cost; a bullpup shotgun tends to cost more than a regular one, and if you have to buy, say, three hundred shotguns for a police department, would you rather grab off the rack Mossberg 590s or go for three hundred bullpup shotguns? On that note, training is another issue, though one that can be managed. However most people buying shotguns for military or police purposes are replacing old inventory and so the benefits would have to outweight the problems of retraining with a brand new manual of arms. There's also the mechanical concern; bullpup shotguns tend to be a bit more complicated than normal ones, and when one of the strengths of a shotgun is mechanical reliability, this again works against it. You can argue that the extra magazine capacity is worth it, but a Mossberg 590 with a 20 inch barrel is already quite compact and has a decent magazine for practically any domestic situation encountered by most law enforcement across the world; and where extra firepower is needed, police typically carry short barreled rifles and carbines. There are more and more of them out there than before, however; I think several Turkish companies are producing bullpup shotguns based off several actions for instance, plus you have the KSG and the K12 Chinese Bullpup shotgun has had some success in Canada.
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 6 жыл бұрын
There was actually a Steyr bullpup shotgun, it was proposed for the Advanced Combat Rifle thing years ago and it would be an open bolt 3-burst shotgun with propietary flechette ammo
@Idelacio
@Idelacio 6 жыл бұрын
I remember this gun being in Fallout: Tactics as a full auto shotty. A videogame has LIED to me!
@stevejohnson6593
@stevejohnson6593 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda certain they used the Pancor Jackhammer, at least they did in 1 and 2, I think
@jaodasilva7993
@jaodasilva7993 Жыл бұрын
@@stevejohnson6593 and Tactics too
@eugeneschramm6029
@eugeneschramm6029 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing pros and cons of all weaponry you review without trying to conceal any flaws it naturally has!
@hukaman88
@hukaman88 6 жыл бұрын
I wanna load one tube with dragon breath and the other with the flash bang rounds and have fun at night
@eddyguizonde401
@eddyguizonde401 6 жыл бұрын
who needs fireworks when you've got twin-tube shotguns?!
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like that would start the gun aflame.
@Jixijenga
@Jixijenga 6 жыл бұрын
Hornady PartyHard loads, right?
@bubba9384
@bubba9384 6 жыл бұрын
4th of July, Merican style!!!
@dannygroom3327
@dannygroom3327 5 жыл бұрын
@@bubba9384 bubba, I'm pretty sure merican style 4th of July is the only 4th of July style there is.....
@wewuzkangz4723
@wewuzkangz4723 5 жыл бұрын
That may be the coolest shotgun I've ever seen. Extremely well thought out and unique design
@SkyfallLodge
@SkyfallLodge 6 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to seeing the mechanical function of the trigger. I like the complexity of design. This is everything you don't want in an actual go to war gun.
@RobsRacingMotoVLOG
@RobsRacingMotoVLOG 6 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your channel for some time now... this is the most interesting firearm I've ever seen! Thank you for sharing.
@francoiswilliams
@francoiswilliams 4 жыл бұрын
Why is that btw...
@RobsRacingMotoVLOG
@RobsRacingMotoVLOG 4 жыл бұрын
francois williams Because just about everything is backwards from convention. Magazine tilts to accommodate shells instead of the other way around. Magazines are on top. Pump forward. It’s just odd, which makes it interesting to me.
@francoiswilliams
@francoiswilliams 4 жыл бұрын
@@RobsRacingMotoVLOG Oh ok, I am a born South African, maybe I am used to stuff like that lols...I am nowadays here in philippiens as u can see on my stream, how about yourself? I study some local martial arts here too...
@amypond5726
@amypond5726 6 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this for years
@danditto4864
@danditto4864 5 жыл бұрын
Amy Pond Just get a Kel Tec KSG. Less complex, does the same thing, can be sent back to the factory if you have issues. I have over a thousand rounds through mine with no problems except a short stroke that was my fault like crawling. Don’t forget to keep your right arm up, so you don’t throw a hot piece of ejecting brass into it.
@lezzbmm
@lezzbmm Жыл бұрын
14:30 i love the explanation abt the interesting machining techniques to compensate for expensive more suitable precursor parts !!
@vaeastra
@vaeastra 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian, Very Cool!
@MichalHalczuk
@MichalHalczuk 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like super shotgun from Quake 2. Nice.
@braydenh190
@braydenh190 6 жыл бұрын
Please the review GM-94. A pump action 40ml GL. This weapon uses the same type of mechanism to load the shells where the barrel goes overtop the round with the same forward pump motion.
@erik19988
@erik19988 6 жыл бұрын
Or RMB-93, shotgun with the same to GM94 mechanism
@yelectric1893
@yelectric1893 6 жыл бұрын
Gm-94 is cool
@thorild69
@thorild69 6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the pivot on the locking mechanism. It reminded me of the opposite of a delayed blowback mechanism.
@murraylewis5690
@murraylewis5690 5 жыл бұрын
Being able to switch between two ammo types is great! The gun is a little complicated, but not much more than it needed to be... I want one!
@OEFvet0311
@OEFvet0311 4 жыл бұрын
Tube 1: Rubber bullets for peaceful hippies. Tube 2: buckshot for less peaceful hippies.
@cschultzy56
@cschultzy56 6 жыл бұрын
If I could like this video twice I would. These things were like the first gun I ever REALLY wanted.
@RexApplegate
@RexApplegate 6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was incredibly unfortunate when I heard Mr Neophytou say he's a harsh critic of this design. Such a cool system. I think it deserves to be built with better materials and sold in great numbers.
@cosminxxx5287
@cosminxxx5287 6 жыл бұрын
the guy that made this knows his stuff.nice one really.and it seems it's a very light shootgun too.sweet piece.
@xXxKAMIKAZExXx
@xXxKAMIKAZExXx 6 жыл бұрын
Strange how it pumps forwards. I remember this from Bad Company 2.
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 жыл бұрын
xXxKAMIKAZExXx it is the best shotgunin the game
@MemestiffGaming
@MemestiffGaming 5 жыл бұрын
In this case, thank god it pumps forward. I prefer having my little fingers not shot off :)
@deathlis
@deathlis 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. That is an ingenious marvel of engineering. I don't care that it's overly complicated. It's just so freaking cool! I want one.
@KrisKrieg1
@KrisKrieg1 6 жыл бұрын
It's Bad Company 2sday, except it's Friday. Works for me. Thanks Ian!
@ItsRawdraft2
@ItsRawdraft2 5 жыл бұрын
Ayyy
@praporbarton3961
@praporbarton3961 Жыл бұрын
Bullpup, pump action and break open, Tony really nailed the shotgun bingo
@TRIP_B
@TRIP_B 6 жыл бұрын
Bad company 2 flashbacks
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 жыл бұрын
Edwards Release the MCMANUS NOSTALGIA
@CreedK
@CreedK 6 жыл бұрын
*slug hits you from across the map*
@garygenerous8982
@garygenerous8982 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting concept. I can see a lot of bits that are not ideal in material choices or implementation but you get that issue in pretty much everything new. It’s too bad that this didn’t take off more and have a few generations of development behind it to really show its potential.
@mohawkdriver4155
@mohawkdriver4155 5 жыл бұрын
South Africa designs fine weaponry like this and we have Kel-Tec.
@francoiswilliams
@francoiswilliams 4 жыл бұрын
ZA yebo!!
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 6 жыл бұрын
Never in my life have I seen a firearm that is more tailored made for my unnecessarily eccentric, yet practically minded desires! A double top tube mag, bull pup pump shotgun with a fixed bolt/sliding barrel action, optic mount, and absurdly cool s00per future gun looks? It's like they read my mind!!! I seriously, SERIOUSLY, legitimately want to get my hands on one of these before I 'go to the light', I could just take it apart and stare at it for hours...
@123456gordon
@123456gordon 6 жыл бұрын
**Bad Company intensifies**
@MrDLRu
@MrDLRu 10 ай бұрын
I waited patiently for years to get one of these. I had heard about them in 89'-90' I believe. Later on I it was mentioned in Machine Gun News that Ithica may be manufacturing them in the USA...Sadly, that never happened and it wasn't until Keltec made their KSG that the twin tube bullpup shotgun was a reality here in the US. I then waited years again to get one, as availability and price stopped me from purchasing one. Bullup shotguns are everywhere today, and at some ridiculously low prices. Would still love to have the Neostead though, what a cool collector piece.
@ratsvim7980
@ratsvim7980 6 жыл бұрын
it looks very futuristic like i could see it used by space rebels in a sci fi movie part of why the p-90 is popular because it was used in sci fi movies
@Chasmodius
@Chasmodius 6 жыл бұрын
That and the KRISS Vector.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 жыл бұрын
And Calico.
@australiananarchist480
@australiananarchist480 4 жыл бұрын
and just because it looks cool in general. A lot of PDWs do
@jaytaylor9232
@jaytaylor9232 6 жыл бұрын
Now that is superb design and attention to detail.
@iAmBrah
@iAmBrah 6 жыл бұрын
thanks gun jesus
@weeksey49
@weeksey49 5 жыл бұрын
OMG this got to be the coolest design I have ever seen and a shot gun I would never want to depend on. Like you gathered a bunch of engineers together and said make a shot gun but they had never see a shotgun before all its missing is a flux capacitor.
@ericcrawford7207
@ericcrawford7207 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this designer had teamed up with George Kellgren of Kel-Tec
@migdolmielies
@migdolmielies 6 жыл бұрын
Have one of these guys, man its fun shooting this thing... works every time. Tanks for all this info man, you are a great mentor
@olivialambert4124
@olivialambert4124 5 жыл бұрын
South Africa has come out with some of the most innovative arms in the modern age. Has nobody told them the Arms industry is tough right now?
@rufuspretorius6455
@rufuspretorius6455 4 жыл бұрын
There's always a 3rd world country looking for weapons. If it's cheap they'll buy besides they've been making firearms for years. Not sure how your comment makes any sense???
@chR1stian_moto
@chR1stian_moto 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the amount of detail you went through when dissecting this interesting shotgun. Very interesting and informative as always. Thanks for another well made video.
@nathandurrence134
@nathandurrence134 6 жыл бұрын
“Forgotten Gun” All true battlefield fans will remember this legend
@kevinlind4640
@kevinlind4640 6 жыл бұрын
I love how you felt it was important to clarify not just that it's a bad thing to shoot of your own fingers, but also that it's a good thing not to!
@willowrabbit
@willowrabbit 6 жыл бұрын
aww, you never filled the tubes all the way and then hit the empty button. I wanted to see the shells go flying.
@roccocroce
@roccocroce 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian! That was fantastic. My fav shotgun. Back to sleep. Cheers
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 6 жыл бұрын
Could you reduce complexity by doing away with the recoil-operated slide unlock? Replace the release button with a bigger lever release mechanism, similar in concept to the release levers on some lever action rifles, that you operate on every stroke when you pump forward.
@garygenerous8982
@garygenerous8982 6 жыл бұрын
andymac4883 alternatively you could have the equivalent of the 1911 grip safety in the slide which would accomplish the same thing with out the complexity of the recoil driven system but at the same time you wouldn’t have to manually operate a push button every time you wanted to rack the slide
@TruthSeekerD
@TruthSeekerD 6 жыл бұрын
Or you could have it lock when cocked and automatically unlock when uncocked/fired like conventional pumps. Adding an unlock button that has to be depressed is a recipe for disaster under stress. Kinda like a KSG safety.. if you're used to an 870 the ksg will get you killed.
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 6 жыл бұрын
Gary Generous That's about the sort of direction I was thinking; something easier to operate than a button, so that it's move convenient to do for each pump. Though for safety's sake I think it would have to be something you can only operate during the action of working the pump, rather than something you can operate simply by holding the fore end.
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 6 жыл бұрын
TruthSeekerD Oh I agree about the unlock button being a bad idea if it has to be used on every stroke, but what about something similar in concept to the lever latch on an 1895 Winchester? Then again a lock on cock system would also work pretty well, as far as I know at least.
@gbuent
@gbuent 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would see an innovative shotgun design. Very cool
@CaptainCiph3r
@CaptainCiph3r 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like the forward pumping action would keep you from blowing your hand off like some folks are doing with KSGs. EDIT: watched the whole vid, and you mention this. Lol.
@doctim111
@doctim111 6 жыл бұрын
One of the most unique/complicated designs I’ve seen, Thanx!
@billjakerson2693
@billjakerson2693 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: bad company 2 Me: M I R R O R ‘ S E D G E
@oneortwowilldo
@oneortwowilldo 3 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking about how the shotgun in ME was pretty weird looking for a KSG, but now I understand completely Didn't even occur to me that the KSG was first released several years after ME, lmao
@ironie5319
@ironie5319 6 жыл бұрын
omg this shotgun is a master piece, would be perfect for close quarters and small rooms
@Hadanelith1
@Hadanelith1 6 жыл бұрын
I've been super curious about this gun since I saw it in Fallout 2 back in...2000? 2002? Jeez, it's been a long time. Thanks for showing it off!
@danieljcall3811
@danieljcall3811 6 жыл бұрын
This explains Kel-tech's and other manufacturers inspiration to the bullpup shotgun.
@Lar1ng1tS
@Lar1ng1tS 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see РМБ-94 (Russian combat compact shotgun) with same forward pump action. It's actually forgotten now despite of civillian version РМО-94.
@ljaysperspective1775
@ljaysperspective1775 2 жыл бұрын
This must be IMHO the longest explanation on how a fire arm functions, that I have ever seen on your channel. Some info I completely understand some I had to rewind lol but in any case it was very interesting and educational. The shot gun is futuristic in appearance but also simplistic which completely contradicts its functionality but It's definitely 💯 cool! 😎
@gotthesinglelife
@gotthesinglelife 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if KSG or DP12 got the idea from this.
@psykoklown874
@psykoklown874 6 жыл бұрын
Or the UTAS-15.
@GreenHellTube
@GreenHellTube 6 жыл бұрын
It reminds me more of a turkish UTAS-15, especially that tube selector switch and a barrel under the magazines.
@frederik313
@frederik313 6 жыл бұрын
blueman4444444 dp-12 Not so much, thats basically 2 Pump-guns next to each Other
@reaperreaper5098
@reaperreaper5098 6 жыл бұрын
Doubtful if they're rare.
@MEGALODONGERS
@MEGALODONGERS 6 жыл бұрын
I believe I read a while back that the creator of the NS2000 also helped design the UTS-15.
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