Neosteel novasteel helmet test - Make steel armor relevant again

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

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[@pjwoodward9984]

Good to see you again 🎉

[@kingdomofvinland8827]

If you can get your hands on one I’d love to see a review of the Ukrainian ipi malyuk/vulcan-m assault rifle.

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

He's alive!

[@Sire.English]

You mean Conflict of Nations? (Call of War is the WW2 variant, not this WW3 one)

[@jtjames79]

I want Kevlar wrapped around steel.

[@Matsen76]

Fun fact. This helmet might even be adopted by the Polish Armed Forces. They are seriously interested in the idea of a modern steel helmet. Their logic is that thanks to their longevity and good enough protection they are perfect for long term mobilization storage.

[@pword1023]

yep, some historian told me about it but he was quite irritating

[@Matsen76]

@@pword1023 I see what you did there lol

[@KorianHUN]

I talked with a supply officer from a not that well of country once about the topic of helmets, he said something along the lines of "Kevlar helmets expire but we can give everyone an old steel pot that has the same level of protection as when it was made 45 years ago. In a war you can have a lot of them but if your fancy expensive helmets expire or run out and you have no backup, bad situation to be in." As modern steel helmets were mass produced for ww1, turns out we might once again need to have a very basic helmet that protects from fragments, as seen in Ukraine artillery is king in conventional war, and so are drone dropped light munitions. Plus you can easily add a simple hearing protection mount, even if it is not active earpro, videos from volunteers in Ukraine talked about half the squad being deaf from firing RPGs or grenades going off nearby, being unable to communicate in battle.

[@aaronkong8393]

this could be the play, especially with the attrition of gear and tons of artillery we’re seeing in conflicts today

[@pieterandjuanchronicles]

Maybe the kolpak 20 wasn’t so bad

[@justin764]

No way, a helmet that not only protects you but returns fire for you!

[@herrsiemes7094]

Trickshotting the NCO by bouncing your round off the support gunners steel helmet 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@indoorkite651]

@@herrsiemes7094 Smoke an RTO and the fragments bounce off the inside of his helmet also shredding the radio

[@Gilannun12]

Helmet with 5% chance to deal back 50% of damage to atracket.

[@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames]

​@@Gilannun12 We got irl legendary effects before fallout 5

[@silver1340]

Thorns enchantment IRL

[@moonasha]

bro. After seeing that ricochet. You need a bench to do these remotely from now on. God just gave you another chance lol

[@AS-mt4co]

This is like his 4th second chance

[@triumphant39]

Don't get me wrong, that was pretty sketchy, but it also pointed out that ricochets don't usually have enough energy to do much of anything. Now if that hit you in the eye.. then we'd have a major problem.

[@caribou0200]

​@@triumphant39good thing he's wearing that face shield

[@andrews.7754]

@@triumphant39 Or the neck... or the balls

[@mienski0]

@@triumphant39 True that, but why risk a nut-shot?

[@eloryosnak4100]

Unironically could not look more like the Helldivers helmet. Thats deeply funny

[@brandonjew1397]

Democracy protects!

[@sph1988]

I was looking for this comment in case and was going to post it myself if there weren't any, thank you sir

[@RuneOverW]

Thank you for saying this so I don’t have to

[@Ball_hog-m2e]

I thought bulwark from warhammer lol

[@MsZsc]

im doing my part

[@omarrp14]

I think we can all safely assume that steel core 9mm is more of a prevalent threat then 44 magnum.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Both are pretty uncommon

[@jordendavid8992]

If a guy is willing and has the skill to dome you with a 44 mag your cooked, if a guy has resources to buy 9mm light ap your also probably still cooked

[@crushglobalists8640]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but dont intermediate cartridges like 5.56 and 7.62x39 generally perform similarly to .44 magnum after around 100-150 yards? Edit: Quoting @Charon-5582 nope, even the 7.62x39 is going over 2000 fps at 100 yards. 44 magnum ranges as high as 1800 fps with lighter bullets at the muzzle. 5.56 is screaming fast at 100 yards, pmc's 55gr load says 2800fps. If you want to penetrate steel you want a small bullet travelling fast, ft-lbs doesn't matter as much.

[@telephrag]

@@Oxide_does_his_best Unless they are not similar to fragments produced by artillery shells :\

[@vicnighthorse]

@@Oxide_does_his_best Away from war zones, threats wearing ballistic helmets are maybe even more rare. Without a more likely threat of shrapnel, I have not even invested in a helmet. If there are artillery shells, bombs and or grenades landing in my vicinity and not currently being a soldier, I am staying in my makeshift bunker and hiding. However, if I had more income than I do I would buy a helmet, perhaps this one.

[@Slamboni4k]

From Knights on Horseback to Infantry on Dirt Bikes; Full Circle.

[@vos2693]

Ave Maria, Deus vult!

[@K_Balu]

Because steel is the real deal, always has been

[@Mydumbselfsays]

We never moved away lol. Even before mechanized infantry, Dragoons (musket on horseback) and other horseback units were already widely used in the 17th century. The manly and, increasingly more prevalently, womanly urge to ride something faster than you can run is irresistible.

[@potatospartan6056]

Modern cavalry

[@alinkinthechain]

Bro that would by definition be cavalry

[@valchio5455]

This man survives a potentially deadly ricochet, and then proceeds to take no additional safety precautions. Are you good, man?

[@Toboe12PL]

hes wearing a helmet. What more do you want?

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

I’ve been hit by a lot of similar ricochets that I don’t show, they don’t have the energy to damage unless you get it in the eye

[@valchio5455]

@@Oxide_does_his_best Alright, I'm not one to judge. Just be careful, I don't want to see good people get hurt.

[@valchio5455]

@@Toboe12PL If it were me, I'd have something solid between my vitals and the target. Water barrel, wood wall, steel plate, anything really. Sure something probably won't happen, but a healthy amount of caution when using firearms never hurts.

[@deathgripskaraoke9351]

Subject. Matter. Expert

[@OperatorDrewski]

Ready or not OST goes hard my friend

[@RubeliteRiver]

Hi Drewski!

[@FordMustangGTRocks]

Hop on the THC squad server and play some global escalation with us sometime soon! Merry Christmas drewski!

[@sixfootdworf9545]

Yoo!!!

[@jakubveverka5208]

Which OST I can't find it 😭

[@LocalDiscordCatgirl]

Its the Drewski

[@BuffRANGE]

He does exist! Merry Christmas!

[@Nukenissen]

I love your 5.7x28 videos!

[@olejnik5165]

Merry christmas too u, maybe one day U will test railgun rifles haha

[@riflemanm16a2]

The M&Ms commercial!

[@Dusty-Boot]

Wait was it you that did the Patrick Buffman larp?

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Dusty-Bootwho ?

[@jic1]

4:48 I didn't understand the point of this helmet until I heard that. A two-thirds cost saving does *a lot* to offset the extra weight, especially when you're outfitting thousands of troops.

[@102ndsmirnov7]

It also maintains its protection level far better than something like kevlar. See steel helmets from WW2 still doing the same job they did back then with no degradation.

[@abyssstrider2547]

Funny, I always use steel helmets for most of my colonists in RimWorld. Only the ones super good at combat get better stuff. Didn't know this is how things actually work in real life. Basically I give them dusters and steel helmets. Crazy.

[@ketch10]

@@abyssstrider2547 I was thinking of Rimworld the whole time while watching this lmao

[@abyssstrider2547]

@@ketch10 Same

[@romane.4072]

mechanical engineer here, what many people forget to mention is that steel is more dense than ceramics, particles are closer together, hence the weight. The benefit to this is that steel can easily be improved by removing imperfections, voids and cracks in the particle and grain structure, making it very effective for low cost. You can further improve it with some cheap CRV like on most tools from china nowadays. These steel helmet are also already significantly thinner and lower profile than most of the other stuff ive seen, maybe in the future they can make some stealth athletic type stuff.

[@すどにむ]

prob is steel is generally not so good at protecting brain pudding unshaken

[@TexYMatt98]

​@@すどにむ neither does the aramid ceramic combo

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@TexYMatt98 Even worse, because most soft armor will kill you with anything stronger then .44 just by caving your head/chest in, even if it stops the bullet, and take you out of combat when you are hit with 9mm/magnum. The only good thing about it is light weight.

[@sergeantsonso3490]

forgive my ignorance, but what the hell do you mean by CRV?

[@romane.4072]

@@sergeantsonso3490 chromolly vanadium or chromium vanadium, very good against corrosion and impact fatigue

[@olejnik5165]

The Polish army is considering buying a lot of those new modern steel helmets for a big reserve army personel since the Kevlar helmets got some kind of shelf life to cut costs so Im glad U did this video I wanted to know their abilities

[@Dromaeosaurs]

I bet that they'll probably will just make some kind of „modernized” type 67 helmets :/

[@tonieistotne9471]

​@@Dromaeosaurs steel has no expiration date. Same as bwp-1 and lubawa

[@Stunkos]

@@tonieistotne9471 UHMWPE helmets don't either. Steel is needlessly heavy and gives poor protection

[@IvanIvanoff-d4p]

Steel helmets have always been relevant, its just mankind had a delusional era of peace and professional armies where they thought large standing armies werent needed due to Fukuyaman global trade

[@tonieistotne9471]

you see buddy you have to be able to think licke the Polish army brass. UHMWPE helmets are expensive. and as we know if something is expensive you can't give it to a soldier because he will lose it, steal it or break it.​@@Stunkos

[@wilemelliott]

Maybe it's time to look at composite. Hard steel exterior, light spall liner inner shell or padding that acts as a frag liner. Sure your bell still gets rung with any penetration but the hard shell reduces what gets through and the Kevlar beanie catches the rest

[@shawndmiles6747]

Old G.I. helmets are 2 piece design.

[@wilemelliott]

@shawndmiles6747 exactly

[@anthonyjones8043]

The altyn style helmets follow this philosophy just with a titanium shell instead of steel.

[@DFVaun]

@@anthonyjones8043 Its the opposite; the titanium Altyns predated the steel Maskas and similar. The soviets/Russians started using steel not just because it was massively cheaper and easier to work with, but because steel would flex and absorb more energy before failing and rupturing, compared to the titanium Altyn, which would either stop a bullet immediately, or rupture and be penetrated. The Maska was heavier but ultimately had slightly better performance for the same reason ballistic polymer helmets work better than steel helmets; impact diffusion.

[@stormy0307]

@@shawndmiles6747yes but the liner of M1 helmets is just a holder for the headband, it provides no protection other than maybe as a basic bump helmet.

[@TheRealCreoleDeal]

3:34 Brother, did you just ricochet a round off a helmet nearly missing your arm and then proceed to fire another round from the same distance and angle? Have you heard of natural selection?

[@cloakedoblivion22]

Legit, this may not be the dumbest thing I’ve seen with a firearm but it is top 10

[@Vune_GG]

I don’t think he knew about the ricochet the first time, takes a damn child to understand that. Bro obviously reviewed the footage and noticed the ricochet otherwise he would have addressed it irl instead of as commentary 💀

[@evansaw293]

This is definitely interesting. Old steel helmets had inconsistent performance due to inconsistent steel heat treat etc, more modern steel and treatments may be a more cost-effective way to mass produce helmets.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Also because they were the cheapest stamped/cast steel during the wars, and you needed an extra plate about 3-5 times thicker then the helmet itself was to get a reliable level of protection from common (at the time) weapons.

[@Tokmurok]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907all helmets back then were good for was shrapnel and maybe blunt force.

[@KepeskUrthalre-h6r]

Maybe in 80 years they will get so good at making steel plate armor they will even learn to stop making it mono layer.

[@Nate_the_Nobody]

$245 for a helmet is a STEEL

[@dave2.077]

👏

[@China_Secret_Police]

Better than paying out the Life Insurance Policy

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

Vt, my unit used your vids to show how are armor works, my new commander wants the guys to understand there gear

[@poshweevil2960]

I remember ar500 armor making a steel helmet that got memory holded

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

The promo pics with an absolute unit of a lad were not flattering.

[@nean9894]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD he's just got built in trauma padding and backup blood

[@alphawolfgang173]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD fat guys need helmets too

[@TexasSurplusPro]

I don't get why they dropped those from the lineup. Lots of potential!

[@TheNightrider88]

@@TexasSurplusPro they dropped it because that was not theirs design but earlier version of this one helmet, but then they went into disagreement with inventor anh he decided to produce and sell them by himself.

[@player55redcrafter8]

Whoever made yhis helmet put a lot of effort and democracy into it.

[@Stevenhufnagel]

Democracy export is the biggest business.

[@Eight.OfClubs]

For Super Earth!

[@DBeskar6605]

5:15 what is there left to judge? It does what modern helmets do at a third the price and it isn't like we can't line the thing with kevlar if we needed to. It is obviously the future.

[@dedg3131a]

Shoutout for using the Ready or not soundtrack. That shit bangs.

[@bodhi1762]

agreed

[@Nick-hm9rh]

i knew i recognized it but didnt know what from lol

[@Auto5k]

It's a really cool idea, getting you near the same protection but for much cheaper. It would have been nice to include a weight comparison with similar cut helmets. Also steel doesn't expire unlike aramid so no need to worry about degrading performance over time. I think I would consider this option if I was looking for a ballistic helmet.

[@123asap6]

@Auto5k generally speaking it is around the same weight as an equivalent protection aramid helmet, though a lot of that can be contributed to its rather minimalist padding. If you decide to go a bit heavier you can get rifle rated helmets without the bulk of aramid helmets with SLAAP plates while maintaining the same weight. Case in point being the C1300H poly-titanium helmet, which is a similar helmet but made of polyurea coated titanium alloy with a rather substantial padding layer backed by kevlar or ballistic nylon.

[@0xdeed771]

They literally do not list the helmet's weight anywhere on the product site (which is like 10 pages long). A hilarious attempt to obscure what is obviously a significantly overweight helmet

[@Ratmilker]

Spall coating however, does expire, and steel fragments in your skull are indeed not very good

[@Unbentsuperpyro]

Found on Ade.pt it weighs about 2.85(L/XL) for the steel one in ACH configuration. A opscore Sentry (Inbetween of ACH and high cut) is about 2.11 (Using L/XL Size.) So about 3/4 lb increase in weight but noting that people slap on nods, therms, or whatever other special little thing that gets you going for protection on there, I'd say a half pound difference depending on what you do.

[@squid_iwl]

@@0xdeed771 I found it pretty quickly under "Additional Information" tab under the product image when looking at the high cut version: Size L/XL: 2.85 pounds, Size M: 2.65 pounds

[@jonmosin8820]

I have this helmet and have a few points to make. With its mass being closer to to your head it "feels" lighter than another high cut of similar weight. Its low profile enough that i can wear active ear protection over the entire thing. The combat circlet is fimsy and broke the first time i mounted anything to it. I wish they would make one out of aluminium or at least a stronger plastic.

[@G36C-556]

Make a sand mold of the combat circlet and cast it out of molten aluminium cans or just iron

[@historybuff1993]

My brain saw helldivers immediately

[@dabbingraccoons6416]

Same

[@strongestgamer2501]

L

[@elliotnemeth]

Democracy Protects!!!

[@Khan.WrathOf]

I think we all did

[@dangerous358]

I saw space marine but yeah that too

[@zaxs166]

The helmet looks really awesome, the face plate kinda reminds me of some Wolfenstein soldiers

[@G3neral_Hi_Ping]

For me it makes me think 'knights of the 21st century'

[@ToothlessHawkens]

christ, couldnt imagine what getting your bell rung while wearing one of those would feel like

[@indoorkite651]

probably feels better than being dead

[@mo-s-]

better to without

[@everfreesnarrations35]

@@mo-s- Ait, get shot in the head without the helmet? I'd rather a concussion the be dead right?

[@poorman9259]

just dont get shot from someone 5 feet away

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

2:48 Cool, the helmet even comes with a "thorns" enchantment.

[@Screeno1993]

I would think that's projectile protection III at least. Xd

[@Beneficiis]

You know... off topic but - in Poland there is a mention of making a tender for modern steel helmets for army. The reason being that composite / kevlar helmets are troublesome to store for mobilization. Steel helmet if stored correctly - can basically remain in storage for indefinite amount of time. Which makes it much cheaper to maintain as reserve than conventional modern helmets. And it's not a trivial difference, potentially makes such helmets 4 times less expensive (assuming per Polish standards that typical modern helmets have 10 year lifespan before they risk gradually losing ballistic properties). For steel helmet 40 years... is nothing. And we are talking couple hundred thousands of these things.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Yeah...correctly stored WW2 gear is still looking like it was made yesterday, it will probably become outdated by the time you take it out to sell to some larpers in original paint without a speck of rust.

[@Beneficiis]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 The general idea is to keep various composite helmets for active duty and for more active reserve / national guard equivalent, and supply these as needed on current basis, while buying steel ones to keep in storage just in case. Mind you Poland still has post WW2 60's vintage steel helmets in storage. And I guess generals love the idea of having such helmets in storage, where they don't need to worry about "best by" date. Actually this was mentioned by Minister of Defense so I guess the idea is kinda serious. So, a steel helmet with similar ballistic properties, as close weight wise as possible, compatible with hearing protection and allowing fitting of night vision and other stuff. I guess that's the idea. And since material science did progress since that time, it could be something worthwhile. There are some seriously autistic types of steel available nowadays, just matter of cost-benefit.

[@pewpewboom4201]

An oxide video in this economy? LETS FUCKING GO

[@Neo2266.]

That face armour is tingling my gamer senses.

[@elliotnemeth]

It looks very...democratic

[@Neo2266.]

@@elliotnemeth Hard to sip libertea with though

[@evans9215]

11 seconds ago is a Christmas mircale

[@BuffRANGE]

Wonder how the steel would handle Ss190 or M855 at 1,500 fps

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Ask Jake to send you one

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Oxide_does_his_bestI believe he was waiting on gen 2 :)

[@PheonixOstapowich]

On their site they claim it stops 5.7 ball over 2000 fps. I'd think it has a decent chance at stopping reduced velocity steel core rounds. Is the VPAM 3 7.62x25 special threat steel core? I would think so.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@PheonixOstapowichlikely that’s FMJ 5.7 not steel penetrator :) 7.62x25 is a bit fatter and slower than 5.7

[@jeanladoire4141]

I think medieval armor can do a comeback in some circumstances, if renaissance era armors were made of modern alloy steel (or titanium, if made in an alloy that's not too brittle), it would perform excellently against direct hits. The key is to make shapes that makes bullets want to ricochet away, renaissance armor was designed to take musket rounds and shrapnel. Everything has to be either round or conical and slanted, just like tank armor. Also each part can be made of different thickness steel to optimize weight (that's how they did it before). I'm sure it's possible to make an actually good body armor for those who assault frontally and need to be able to take rounds and still move forward

[@Stunkos]

"medieval armor can do a comeback in some circumstances" those circumstances being larping at a renaissance fair.

[@curtisbrown547]

My thoughts exactly. This weird idea that all you are ever are gonna get armor wise is this shitty little steel plate that barely covers a mans chest organs is actually ridiculous. The advancements in materials science just don't support the idea. Modern US soldiers carry around like.. 120 pounds worth of total nonsense, but everyone shits their pants when you suggest 45-50 pounds of armor. Modern warfare further suggests infantry carrying that much is outdated due to the incredibly low speed of war. You see this in ukraine. What you also see is bomb drones dropping fragmentation devices on light infantry. Something that a fuller outfitting of armor would be great at defending against. Just a fitted steel plate for thighs, and upper arms could be very meaningful. Still want your 120 pounds of nonsense sometimes? Cool. Your infantry is going to be mechanized anyway. The troop transport is a crucial part of modern war atm. Leave that shit in the transport or slap it onto a small treaded drone and make it follow you around.

[@Redicule_research._ridiculous]

German police special guys wear chainmail

[@OzymandiasMD]

Modern soldiers drop their packs when they engage. They aren’t fighting with 120lbs on their backs. Moving and fighting with an extra 50lbs strapped to your body is going to significantly increase exertion. The minimal level of protection offered by steel armor is simply not worth the weight.

[@curtisbrown547]

@@OzymandiasMD it seems preposterous to say that modern soldiers cant fight in intense combat wearing steel armor when our less nourished, shorter ancestors did precisely that

[@StabbyMcStabwood]

I wanted to make something like this myself, but some guys from the guncad community called me *regarded*. Something tells me I was on the right path.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Were you thinking of making your own stamping dies?

[@SuperGman117]

Those guys are all bandwagoners. Don't listen to em. They say dumb shit pretty often.

[@Emogeta]

Those same people would then say to buy an Opscore or HHV helmet.

[@StabbyMcStabwood]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD my initial idea was far cruder. I was going to take an old military steel helmet and weld on some angular plates. I've got all the materials and tools to do it. They told me I'd get brain damage if I took a hit, I said that still sounds better than the alternative

[@stealth7545]

if it was guys on reddit you can basically ignore them, fosscad reddit commenters told me my printed glock 20 would disassemble itself violently when fired because the print had some layer lines in it from microscopic differences in layer widths, 45 rounds of full power 10mm later and theres no signs of wear

[@billhanson4921]

yup thats good......add a Kevlar cover to it and its even better. it would ring your bell, but you'd still be there.

[@killerkraut9179]

That woud be awsome!

[@MrLM002]

I say Kevlar Cover AND Kevlar Liner. Gotta protect both sides from spall.

[@footsorebird0365]

Bro just came back from the dead and dropped an absolute banger of a review on the helmet that I was looking at. Merry Christmas and I hope flight school is going well!

[@benyannay5829]

Next step is a steel and polyethaline/ kevlar composite helmet with steel on the out side and it also needs som sort of spall cover so whatever frag is stoped by your helmet doesnt ricochet hit the guy next to you... But for real a slighty tinner steel shell with a cuple layers of kevlar properly compressed kevlar on the inside and outside and it will surpas the performance of moast helmets on the market while being cheapeaper and more durable

[@Lilrob06]

If I had the money I would absolutely love to make something like that

[@benyannay5829]

@@Lilrob06 and I would love to buy it

[@123asap6]

They said steel helmets were obsolete. But for protection against rifle threats with steel cores, a properly designed steel helmet with kevlar or UHMPWE liner is one of the few ways to get it without becoming cumbersome. Ulfbrichts (probably butchered the spelling) is one of the few companies making steel and titanium core helmets (The zenturio c1300h was one of their best selling models, rated to stop m855 and equivalent loads at 50 meters) with aramid inner liners and polymer coatings. They are about as heavy as Altyn helmets though, so you give some you get some.

[@JackTagar]

I was about to make a comment that this helmet would benefit from a PE or kevlar liner, hopefully to stop penetrations, but also to give some additional energy absorption material.

[@williamnixon3994]

Helmets like that wouldn't be commonly issued for exactly that reason; soldiers already carry a lot of weight, and the military isn't yet ready to break their necks *as well* as their backs

[@123asap6]

@@williamnixon3994 That is true, however cost was more the factor here as the Zenturio c1300h was and still is a premium grade helmet. I will not say that weight does not play a factor too however, as the regular grunt often has to carry a heck of a lot more than more specialized units that engage in more direct action. Even with all that, a steel helmet that weighs as much as a conventional kevlar or PE helmet whilst providing the same or even superior protection (At least at the lower end of muzzle energy) at a lower cost 285 is an absolute steal compared to the 1K+ retail price of things that provide similar protection, and should be considered for assignments like rear echelon troops, who often use older gear and stockpiles, which steel helmets obviously have a much longer shelf life than Kevlar or PE helmets.

[@chost-059]

i love the look of the face shield, reminds me of medieval visored armet plate helmets

[@jordanhorst6]

with the helmet being noticeably slimmer, it could be a good option to be up armored with replaceable ceramic or composite plates.

[@herrsiemes7094]

Absolutely, this could be the start of something really cool. We tried to upgrade some leftover helmets with miniaturized ablative armor panels before and had decent results. Funnily enough we took inspiration from Clone Wars ARC Programme lol

[@geranarthy2309]

Maybe use some form of removable polymer or kevlar outer layer as an addon/replaceable outer liner. Similar to the extra thick removable plate used on ww1 Stalhelms for german machine gunners.

[@elliotnemeth]

Only problem with that is you end up running into the weight problem. It's already heavier than other helmets as it is

[@Blue_Jackal]

This is a serious contender to modern helmets on the market today. I’m not an armorer, but the idea of a helmet utilizing Kevlar and steel might end up winning over modern RIFLE rounds. It’s a really really cool concept that I am excited to see explored in the future

[@TacticalHandleGaming]

Holy smokes! That 9mm bounce back was close!

[@snookiewozo]

Slightly heavier, but much cheaper. Comparable protection, but a much longer shelf-life. This does seem promising.

[@davidaustin1276]

Modern military helmets were from the very beginning (1915) NOT intended or designed to stop bullets they were intended only to protect the head and neck from shrapnel. In modern warfare the vast majority of casualties are caused by crew served weapons (mortars and artillery) not rifles or hand guns. What is it about KZbinrs and their ignorance about the intended purpose of helmets.

[@roadent217]

What's your point? If a helmet can protect against a .45 ACP, it can also protect against shrapnel.

[@DefinitelySpirit]

​@@roadent217i believe hes noting a side tangent while also critiquing how this guy is essentially testing the wrong thing.

[@roadent217]

@DefinitelySpirit I guess... I agree that these sorts tests would not be very useful in a military context. All soldiers fire using intermediate cartridges, which helmets shouldn't be able to stop. However, I think that the real reason for this discussion is police departments, where S.W.A.T. and other agencies could use such helmets to neutralize pistol-equipped barricaded suspects.

[@AnonyMous-dc6ly]

I bought two of these. The first one I tested just cuz I was curious. Shot it with .22, 9mm, .45 ACP, 44 magnum and an armor piercing 12 ga slug. It did actually stop everything but the 12ga slug. Bought another cuz I was pleasantly surprised.

[@307md]

Everybody is addicted to the ready or not soundtrack and I love it

[@shadowresponder]

Can you please do testing on the Highcom Rifle Combat Helmet? It’s marketed specifically to be able to defeat rifle rounds. According to them, the helmet is rated Level 3+. But I am interested to see if the backface defamation would kill it as well.

[@dirkbastiaandejong997]

The return to monke of helmets.

[@buddee8863]

Came here for the Ready or Not music. Stayed for the steel mandible face shield.

[@blah778899]

Will there a be test of the mandible? Would be curious to hear your thoughts on not only the protection it offers given its sloped construction but also if it’s even practical to wear

[@oui2611]

you had me at conflict of nations, it made me watch the video for longer

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

@@oui2611 my bad

[@ndegjika999]

the last shot even if it did not penetrate it will crack your skull and brain damage

[@Theknightman-wg1dz]

I may be biased, but I would love to see this used in the modern military. Steel armor is better at deflecting bullets than most people think. Especially if certain areas are thicker and it has good shaping. I know there was one outlaw in Australia that made his own suit of steel armor, and it deflected all of the police’s bullets. The only way he went down is when they hit him in a spot the armor didn’t cover. If that armor would have had proper shape and coverage, he would have been almost invincible to those bullets

[@yourlocalasleeponioperativ4095]

Glad to see more helmet tests from you. Merry Christmas!

[@shaunnormandy]

This and the HighCom RCH have been my two biggest wish-list items for somebody to test out. Thanks for the info 🙏

[@handsomeivan1980]

A lot of steel helmets from even the 60's can stop 9mm rounds In terms of just protection it's not really all that different What makes kevlar good is that it's lighter and has superior fragmentation protection Especially when you consider ricochets, there is an off chance it can ricochet (fragments) downwards into your shoulders It's not the biggest differences but I'd probably still prefer a kevlar helmet

[@panzerkitsune]

Im looking for the faceshield at 00:42 if anyone knows the model

[@oolooo]

I get the feeling Metallurgic development might just bring back mid XVth century combat .

[@Soulessdeeds]

Steel outer layer. Kevlar inner layer. Make if full face and provide head and neck support for the weight.

[@Dark-Mustang]

That soundtrack is SICK..... I was head bobbing watching this...

[@terrified057t4]

Ricochet nearly had your number XD

[@Jkim890]

A combination of thinner steel outer layer and a thin composite liner to catch fragments and jackets would probably be an ideal solution.

[@joesackmann5589]

Ready or Not sound track. Nice.

[@christopherkleiber2507]

Do you know what it is?

[@KL-rl4kk]

THANK YOU. I have been waiting 5 YEARS for someone to talk about this helmet.

[@VIANDOX325i]

Sweet liberty!

[@BallBusta]

It'll ring your head like a bell but you'll live to see another day with those smaller caliber rounds.

[@libertylivesin1776]

Return of the goat.

[@dc-4ever201]

The problem is even protecting you from a round/shrapnel, all that kinetic energy is gonna go right through your neck. It would be interesting to see a exactly how much force is exerted on the neck when the round impacts.

[@NoName-oh6pc]

Please try a rifle rated helmet. Like Ops-Core RF1 or Highcom RCH.

[@motakai3898]

Neither 'Rifle-Rated' helmets work. They catch the round alright if it's not steel Core, but have lethal backface deformation of more than 6 inches.

[@NoName-oh6pc]

@motakai3898 What is your source? Because all I have seen is IIIA polyethylene helmets being tested. I cannot find testing of any rifle rated helmets, other than the data provided by the manufacturer.

[@tomjones5453]

@motakai3898 People like to say this and then provide zero evidence to back it up. None of the polyethylene helmets tested on KZbin are rifle rated so you have zero basis for your claim. Ops-Core and Highcom are two of the most respected names in the industry.

[@Mortablunt]

Steel armor never stopped being relevant.

[@vikingnajednorozcu5202]

>Christmas day >Oxide pulls up with a new video >About helmets >1/4 of a video is a paid promotion >bruh

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

There isn’t much to say about the helmet is the issue

[@gregoryfilin8040]

​@Oxide_does_his_best Then don't put an ad on such a short video. Dislike

[@sookiethedookie443]

How do you think he gets money to do these videos? Get over yourself man ​@gregoryfilin8040

[@vikingnajednorozcu5202]

@@gregoryfilin8040 man's got to put some food on the table tho

[@sargentshitbag]

@@Oxide_does_his_best can you find none jeet slop mobile game sponsors

[@hardstylelife5749]

When the mandalorian inspires at 360* ; This is the way of making armours . Jokes aside very nice video, thanks for sharing it

[@Grizzly2525]

My neck hurts just thinking about wearing this. Great video as always!

[@НиколайЛамберт]

9mm is not something usualy used in enviorment where people wear helmets.

[@MrLM002]

Mostly true. Honestly the big selling point for me for this helmet is how much coverage you get with it. Seems like shrapnel is the real preventable killer in Ukraine. Your armor ain't doing shit to stop HE, even those massive bomb suits do F all but give your family most of a body for your funeral, but you'll still be dead as shit unless you're dealing with a paltry amount of explosives. Level IV plates are great but they certainly don't protect enough of your bleeders like the ones in your groin and thighs. People who know what they're doing will just aim there. People who don't know what they're doing probably aren't trained well enough to repeatedly hit center mass, so as Clint Smith Says 'some trigger jerking bitch will just as easily shoot you in the femoral'. You head will be the body part that most often breaks cover, so having full coverage with steel that is enough to stop shrapnel and hopefully deflect some bullets is better than having your face fully exposed and a composite helmet that won't stop rifle rounds but sure as shit is less likely to deflect them.

[@stevenglikin3219]

@@MrLM002 bro nobody is aiming for legs when the opponent has a gun... Centre mass with a rifle will neutralize anyone whether they have armor or not.

[@hen_the_ren1841]

incredibly interesting helmet, i'll probably pick one up due to this vid tbh, i feel like that helmet is ever better att taking shrapnel hits as well in combat scenarios as well as managing debris. NVG mount on a steel helmet is sick to

[@Exandria]

The fact that there isn’t permanent deformation on the steel is irrelevant: we don’t make them out of steel because of the near instant transfer of energy to the brain. To my knowledge, taking a round to a steel helmet could potentially knock you unconscious. It would certainly be more often than our modern helmets. Also, your neck vertebrae are not evolutionarily designed to bear a significant load for long duration.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

The helmet doesn’t weigh anymore than a Kevlar one and none of the energy imparted effects on the clay. You wouldn’t get concussed or neck damage.

[@Exandria]

@ wish you discussed weight in the video.

[@GoobusBoobus99]

@@Oxide_does_his_bestso put it on and try it.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

This was worth the wait, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a Happy Nee Year Oxide.

[@olly2515]

Just cause the helmet can survive doesn't mean your brain will. Also your neck is gunna hate you

[@jonathanpfeffer3716]

as opposed to without the helmet, in which case your brain will be totally fine

[@Sqartan491]

Damn, the medical bill from that ricochet may have been cheaper if it hit your arm than the palma amoeba jacket sleeve it took out instead! XD Glad you're ok!

[@DaBlaccGhost]

Before that ricochet slow mo I was about to comment, hopefully you are angling or using some type of cover while shooting that close lmao you madlad.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Just a face shield. They’re not really that dangerous coming back except for the eyes

[@owenp.8736]

Having specifically requested this video in prior comments, I find myself obligated to watch it on christmas

[@prfwrx2497]

2:50 Oxide shoots himself with ricochets at bayonet charging distance, is unharmed.

[@SpringfieldGK]

Merry Christmas Oxide! To the rest of yall too and have a happy new year!

[@mateuszbanaszak4671]

Polish Military Concrete refused to move forward for so long, that the technology did a step backwards, just for them. XD

[@Mdub_actual]

This is the content I love from this channel

[@Punisher9419]

A composite of steel on the outside and kevlar inside makes sense to me. Steel deforms the projectile which helps the kevlar absorb the impact once deformed perhaps. Or kevlar in the middle with sttel outside and inside? Outside steel can be thickest, and thinner on the inside layer with kevlar in-between the two perhaps. Would likely come out too heavy though which is a problem with steelhelmets and kevlar as well just to lesser degree. Maybe using Titanium instead of steel would help as it's much harder and much lighter?

[@dwwolf4636]

Still mainly sourced from Russia ... and China. It's also why the new 6.8mm makes no sense..it requires Tungsten to penetrate rifle plates. And we source Tungsten from ...China. Main candidates for peer adversaries ? Russia and China.

[@Punisher9419]

@@dwwolf4636 6.8 doesn't make much sense in a standard rifle anyway. Much too powerful and heavy, for a designated marksman it makes mroe sense or for a GPMG but you have better rounds for that then 6.8. Body armour doesn't make a soldier immune to rifle fire from 5.56/5.45 anyway it just increases the chance of survival as it protects the upper chest area but a soldier is still very vulnerable to rifle rounds regardless. I mean soldiers seem to drop like a sack of potatoes being hit with 5.45 in Ukraine and the death rate is still incredibly high and a lot of soldiers there are covered head to toe in hard and soft armour. I'm not even sure that 6.8 can penetrate modern hard plates reliably anyway which sort of makes the whole point of it rather redundant. And with how hard plates are getting better all the time that just makes it even more pointless. Just seems like a mistake to arm a soldier with a heavy bulky rifle when the old one does pretty much the same thing just lighter. I would take an AK/AR in 5.45/5.56 over a 6.8 any day as an infantry soldier. More rounds, lighter loads, easy rifle to shoot when sitting ina trench all day and having to try and lug it around and manouver with it.

[@toast5898]

Thank you oxide for this Christmas gift.

[@SillyBilly-xj9ir]

helldivers looking ahh helmet 1:53

[@paladinkhan]

Holy cow that ricochet was terrifying. My dad told me thats how the hole in the arm of the jacket he gave me got there but i didnt believe him. I can see it now though lol

[@thecanuckredcoat4142]

Interesting, I imagine too with some minor TLC this will have a longer overall lifespan than modern synthetics. Edit: some thoughts on this. I wonder if the ability to mass produce this, at scale, might actually be easier than with modern composite helmets, solely due to steel being a relatively easy thing to work with albeit with higher startup costs thanks to the what I assume would be stamped steel helmets. on the negative end I question what the transfer of force on these would be compared to composite helmets, that said the trade-off being either a concussion or extreme cavitation might be more of an academic issue than anything. Lastly if you get steel helmets like this out in the wild again I am curious if/how liner/suspension systems might evolve as having a steel shell that you can stamp does change/allow for modifications in how you set up/attach a suspension system.

[@IJusaI]

Thanks dude, been waiting for this one!

[@prfwrx2497]

The problem with steel is ricochets. Any steel helmet and face shield needs to be angled to deflect spall away from the torso and neck-torso arteries. Ironically a beefed up Brodie would be great at this. The wide brim ensures spall clears the wearer's torso and neck.

[@OVOgooner]

What does it matter if the bullet ricohets towards where the shot is coming from?

[@КарлШлегер]

@@OVOgooner I think @prfwrx2497 meant bullet splash. Shrapnel from the bullet can go down - towards your body, which isn't good for obvious reasons.

[@КарлШлегер]

There are a lot of different materials used to mitigate this issue with steel plates, seems like an easy problem to solve without redesigning the steel structure of the helmet.

[@jonathanjostar7563]

Honestly, I believe a steel sallet or Stahlhelm design with a kevlar liner and cloth cover could work. With a sallet or stahlhelm design, it compliments the soldiers' head shape and narrows slightly towards the neck: have the cloth camouflaged so you can blend in, the steel is able to deflect better, and kevlar for catching anything that may get through, but doesn't have lethal force.

[@oscat3289]

I miss when you made old zenitco and ak vids

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

I’m working on an Ak video right now

[@fiel81]

Based ​@@Oxide_does_his_best

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

​@Oxide_does_his_best oh hell yeah

[@Nohbody13]

They should mix the tech of helmets, like an outer steel shell and a Kevlar material inside with a modern type liner that’s breathable, same with a full body of armor, along with a full face package with the helm. Different types per job, breathable and lightweight for snipers and scouts, heavier for infantry, and specialised for special forces. I’m unsure how effective it would be but it’s an interesting concept.

[@Part.No.1xbil.Prod.Tp.MXMVIII]

03:00 is the whole argument against steel for military issue helmets in a fraction of a second. I was excited for this one because steel has a longer shelf life than aramid armor and is easier to produce en-masse, but the idea of shrapnel and incoming direct fire from long-range engagements being re-directed into nearby friendlies in either a stack or a fighting hole just isn't worth the trade-off IMO. Better to catch incoming threats with Aramid and take a minor concussive injury than for a buddy at arms reach to be split-open by something bouncing off of you.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

I really doubt splash from a pistol rated steel helmet is a big issue. It won’t have the same energy as splash from a rifle round hitting a steel plate

[@ianobrien3248]

You convinced me that headshots with a helmet would really hurt.

[@hell_march6652]

I've seen test of the old stahlhelm design that germany used in ww1 and ww2. They still hold up. Its still relavent. The trade off for any steel helm when compared to modern helm is weight.

[@knightforlorn6731]

nice ricochet that was indeed gnarly, and tubular and righteous.