NEPHILIM in the Bible? Children of Demons? Expert explains GIANTS in Genesis and Book of Enoch

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@zacharygraham7573 Жыл бұрын

I am very happy that lately Dr Marshall is posting more videos on theology and scripture. This was what drew me to him long ago and really is what he does best!

@janetnorris2255 Жыл бұрын

Yes!!!

@roseg1333 Жыл бұрын

Amen! 🙏🏼🕊️✝️

@minorityvoice9253 Жыл бұрын

Agree

@jefffinkbonner9551 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely Marshall in his wheelhouse. Hearing about the next scandalous thing some cardinal or the pope did does get exhausting after a while. It’s important to be aware of and have a sober perspective on, but learning more about the Faith is far and away more enriching.

@lovetruth5518 Жыл бұрын

Don’t put your just in man alone.

@denisetimmerman3388 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Michael Heiser’s books changed everything for me! I love reading my Bible now! He was a gift from God! Thank you Taylor! 🙏🏼

@TheBluesStringer Жыл бұрын

Curious, was Dr. Michael Heiser Catholic?

@forgiven212 Жыл бұрын

And L.A Mazulli

@canadian54 Жыл бұрын

No. Not Catholic, and as he said, not charismatic. But boy, he could explain everything so plainly. I try listen to him everyday from his teaching, even now that he is has passed recently.

@decomposegaming Жыл бұрын

@@TheBluesStringer no he wasn't

@M1shell31 Жыл бұрын

I’ve also ready a few of his books. Very informative. It was sad to hear of his passing. God bless him.

@futurefolk9919 Жыл бұрын

I was born and raised Catholic, went to Catholic school most of my childhood. How is it that I was never taught any of this,? Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge. 🙏

@lisamorales7073 Жыл бұрын

Because we grew up under the Vatican ll Catholic Church. They never even spoke about spiritual warfare with us, which I’ve just recently discovered. All they did was obsessively talk about fornication with us. Understanding spiritual warfare earlier in life, would have saved me a lot of heartache, that’s for sure.

@briangc1972 Жыл бұрын

Because just as in the days of Jesus, there were and are religious leaders who are more interested in the power and control of the people as well as the financial incentives to keep people under their thumb.

@suesuepix. Жыл бұрын

Same here…whatever question I asked I was told “it’s a mystery and not for us to know” Who was I to challenge a priest or nun? As it is, I became a Baptist, abut 45 years ago, but it wasn’t until a few years ago I learned these beings existed. At least Dr Marshall gave us the gift of the video…yet I still have questions, because of the different theologian’s writings, and their beliefs. I understand Dr Marshall’s reasoning, because of all of us who he reaches. He has to touch bases to let us understand there is NOT any clear and concise way to know the facts until He wills it for us to know. THAT is something I can accept.

@WaltEagles24 Жыл бұрын

I also went to catholic school and had the same experience. Also you would have thought that someone would have taught some of it from the pulpit..

@PyramidEagle 10 ай бұрын

No vestige of Truth is taught in the Catholic Church. Roman Catholicism is the kingdom of Satan on earth.

@kathrynlucas2378 Жыл бұрын

At last a Catholic presentation on the nephalim! I have several books from protestants on thei whole issue. Thank you!

@johnknight2012 Жыл бұрын

Took the words out of my mouth

@jeepinintexas6215 Жыл бұрын

I was just about to say the same thing.

@Yvone0707 Жыл бұрын

They talk about giants (Nephalim) from time to time on Coast to Coast AM. Top guests on this subject are Steve Quayle and LA Marzulli. Thank you for talking about it from a Catholic perspective.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

1 Hebrews 5 For to which of the angels hath he said at any time, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? If no angel has ever been called son of God, then the sons of God in Genesis are not angels.

@elsfane Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 You miss quoted the book. It is Hebrews 1:5. At least it was close enough.

@popeye8427 Жыл бұрын

It's about time I listen to a Catholic on this subject.

@elatomala1976 Жыл бұрын

I know I was actually surprised to see that he is doing this

@David557you 4 ай бұрын

They seem to have the full scripture lol

@bernhardblocksberg1278 Жыл бұрын

I grew up in a partly Catholic, partly Moravian (proto-protestant) household. Both sides were very devout and I grew up in both churches, but I wasn't baptized into either tradition, as they wanted to leave the decision up to me. I remember this entire topic causing a huge crisis of faith for me. I eventually decided to get baptized at 13 into the Moravian tradition, and was thereafter obligated to read the entire Bible. When I reached Genesis 6 and read about the "Sons of God" coming into the "daughters of man" and producing giants, it caused me to steer off into a rather esoteric new-age ancient-aliens way of thinking. Around 7 years later, reading Michael Heiser's work as well as Enoch cleared a lot of things up for me and slowly steered me back to Christianity.

@wallsign4575 Жыл бұрын

The two points I like to highlight is the concepts of dinosaurs existing before the flood and the story of David and Goliath. The need for giants existing during the time of the dinosaurs is something to consider.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@yozkopf3000 Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 The term bene elohim = sons of god appears in the old testament many times and virtually every single time it refers to supernatural / angelic beings either loyal or in defiance to the creator. Sometimes these beings are even called Elohim (Mighty ones or little g gods). Adam is also called son of God in Genesis because he has no human father but is directly created by God. In the same manner angelic beings are called sons of God in the Old Testament because they are directly created by God. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God though, speaking of the incarnation, born into the world as human, begotten by the Father. That is what the verse is refering to. In the NT born again followers of Jesus after having received the Holy Spirit are also called Sons of God and are in a sense already siblings to Jesus who is the firstborn of this new "family of God" in the world to come. These saints are said in the book of Revelation to rule as kings and priests in the millenium under Jesus as the king of kings. They are called the sons of god even before receiving their changed supernatural body in the same manner Jesus said that the Kingdom of God is already among us even before the resurrection. But in fullness the term Sons of God is fitting for the transformed Saints who have received their supernatural bodies ("oikētērion" - 2Cor 5:2) at the Ressurrection of the Saints and are therefore akin to the angels (Sons of God) who are also clothed in oikētērion (Jude 1:6).

@DH-qp2gy Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 Divine beings are referred to as sons of God three times in the book of Job. Watch Dr. Michael Heiser on the topic.

@DH-qp2gy Жыл бұрын

@wallsign4575 Not sure what you were getting at, but let me say this; after studying much on the topic of the Nephilim, I now believe that dinosaurs were a result of genetic manipulation. Maybe not all, some like the brontosaurus may have been created by God. (A brontosaurus may have been the behemoth in Job.) Enoch tells how the Nephilim were perverting all of creation. This may explain why so many dinosaurs seem monstrous and bloodthirsty? Some associated thoughts: Would God really have created a Tyrannosaurus rex or an Allosaurus to terrorize mankind?; If ancient genetic manipulation wasn’t possible, why would God warn against mixing different kinds of animals several times in the bible? Perhaps their evil, corrupt origin is why there are no dinosaurs on the ark or afterwards.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@DH-qp2gy once again the book of Enoch says they were 450ft tall, which is impossible. You love mystery and wonder more than truth. Catholicism has already anathematizes anyone who believes in evolution anyways. So consider yourself go to hell.

@chrissherman2713 Жыл бұрын

I love Heiser's books. They've really opened my eyes to a literal reading of the Old Testament

@MariaG-zd8nz Жыл бұрын

I heard this story many years ago from an old Polish lady. Thanks you for bringing it to light.

@AaronJediKnight Жыл бұрын

I've been listening to Dr. Heiser for the last five years. He sadly passed away about a month ago. May the Lord receive him in his Kingdom

@trevwilliams2138 Жыл бұрын

This is FANTASTIC! I have never heard this presented so well. GREAT JOB Taylor Marshall.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@frmichaelbower2636 Жыл бұрын

I am so grateful to Dr Marshall for making this video. You always amaze me with your attention to detail and the fact that you are able to always give your own unique perspective. I have been intrigued by Heiser’s view for a long time and I have been dissappointed that many prominent Catholic Bible scholars don’t comment on it very much.

@barbaras2899 Жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation of scripture. As always, very informative. Thank you

@TheLincolnrailsplitt Жыл бұрын

It isn't scripture.

@barbaras2899 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLincolnrailsplittCheck out what he said in Genesis 6 The origin of the Nephilim.. and he also mentioned Enoch.

@stephaniechelius1848 Жыл бұрын

Excellent summary of the history of the Giants. Two questions: 1: How is it possible for angels to have sexual relations with human women since angels are neither male nor female? Can they transform themselves to have male sex organs? 2. How do we explain the existance of giants at the time of Saul and David (Book of Numbers) if they were destroyed at the time of the flood?

@connormcphillips9008 Жыл бұрын

For your first question I assume either God allowed the devils to have more power and take a form that simulates a human male or that God allowed them to use the womens’ bodies to aid them in making a creature that is not of God but would be inherently evil. One possible way they could do that might be to clone the woman and put it in her own womb and then modify the genetics of the clone to be like a giant human.

@respiterepository7401 Жыл бұрын

I do believe Angel's are asexual so that the only plausible explanation producing hybrid nephelims is through cloning because these fallen angels are superbly intelligent beings.

@rosaacost5378 Жыл бұрын

Saint Agustin interpretation sounds more likely, sons of God decending from Seth and evil woman decending from Cain

@mike-yd4py Жыл бұрын

Goliath would only have to be 6 1/2-7 feet tall to be considered a giant in those days.

@dakotaman3384 Жыл бұрын

As for point 1 I think that's best kept for remembrance. For point 2 the Scriptures might be more clear than that Genesis 6:4 NASB95 - The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, AND ALSO AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. could be a reference of the flood to follow perhaps?

Жыл бұрын

You have no idea how happy I am to hear a Catholic scholar as yourself explain these things. I read the book of Enoch after watching Noah’s movie with Russell Crowe. I did not know anything about Gn 6 until I questioned the ancestors of the “Transformers” 😂 in that movie. My grandfather who was a self proclaimed atheist talked to me about these giants…I thought later on in my life that he might have been talking Greek to me…😊I was only seven years old. Thank you Dr. Marshall for taking the time to teach and clarify Catholics about these things. I think that if Saint Augustine had access to the books of Enoch, he would have kept the oral tradition and written tradition from St Peter, St Jude, and the fathers of the Church and Saints who went along with the story of the 200 hundred fallen angels. God bless you and your family!

@christinemarie1621 Жыл бұрын

I truly think the angels procreated something that was out of the natural order. The flood was such a drastic, epic event, it must have been over something horrific!

@levrai944 2 ай бұрын

Angels don’t have bodies, they cannot procreate with one another or with humans.

@michaeladjodha2269 Жыл бұрын

Need to cover how Enoch is canonical in Ethiopian Orthodox Church

@AnHebrewChild 4 ай бұрын

Yes. Also the Georgian church.

@unvailingtheveilwormwood8185 Жыл бұрын

We wrestle not against Flesh and Blood but against Principalities against powers against the Rulers of this world against Spiritual Wickedness in high places.

@jerig4385 Жыл бұрын

Please do a part 2 on these and answer questions 💕😊🙏

@mauibabe1711 Жыл бұрын

I watched a documentary on this…and I believe Dr. Heiser was one of the main theologians doing the documentary. Anyway, it was stated in this documentary that the “Watchers” had not only bred human women…but they were also cross-breeding with animals 🦅 🦚🐑, thus changing the DNA of nearly all of God’s Earthly creations….creating complete abominations. I can totally understand why God ✝️ had to “wipe the slate clean” so to speak. Makes total sense imho.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@rosejustice1227 Жыл бұрын

I could see that. History is currently repeating itself. The Chinese have been trying to combine human DNA with animals DNA for a while. So I don't think it's to far fetched

@ginchen33 Жыл бұрын

More of this teaching please, Dr. Marshall.

@elsjemassyn8921 Жыл бұрын

Your message on Enoch is the best I have ever heard. Most other people misunderstand what it says. You have hit the nail on the head Thanks for the message

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@DrPhyto Жыл бұрын

Book Of Enoch was how the Bible clicked for me. It was the missing piece of the puzzle.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@AnHebrewChild 4 ай бұрын

@@sleepystar1638Job 1

@sleepystar1638 4 ай бұрын

@@AnHebrewChild where does it say those are angels?

@jenniferthanhhango5018 Жыл бұрын

I used to hear this topic from Steven Quayle, a Protestant. So glad to hear this from Dr. TM, a Traditional Catholic! Deo gratias for this exegesis!

@sandireneforever777 Жыл бұрын

Greetings, Dr. Marshall! Your teachings are edifying, and they help me navigate through these difficult moments that we currently are facing🙏

@ruata2162 Жыл бұрын

A true Catholic channel ive alwqys been searching for

@RastamonU812 Жыл бұрын

Refreshing how you bring the truth as a teacher Dr. Marshall! We all have an innate sense of what rings as truth and it is up to every soul here on this Earth plane to use our God-given discernment. Thank you for putting the various interpretations out there for each of us to add to or remove from the overall puzzle to our past. There will be a day when all is revealed and thank you for bringing us closer to that point!

@pennsyltuckyreb9800 Жыл бұрын

The modern Catholic Church no longer talks about this stuff. Doesn't talk about the End Times. None of it. The Challoner Douay-Reims Bible notes talk about them matter-of-factly....because they were. Largest, on record, giant skeletons found in North America were both 18 footers. One in West Hickory, PA and the other Austin, TX. Late 1800's, early 1900's. The Timucua Native American tribe that was discovered by Spanish explorers on Jekyll Island were all 8-9ft tall, including the women! They had Middle Eastern style recurve bows. They had a carved stone altar (that appeared to have been there since ancient times) that they would hack up and sacrifice babies over which the explorers made note of (a practice by the Canaanites, etc) and quickly left in fear (they didn't have enough men) towards Florida where they founded St. Augustine. "[...Francisco Pizarro and his company] arrived at Puerto Viejo, and to Santa Helena, where they saw a large quantity of bones of giants, that according to their proportion, were 20 palms [approximately 15 ft] tall." ~ Antonio de la Calancha. Augustinian monk & anthropologist. "The Moral Chronical of the Order of Saint Augustine in Peru, 1663" Supposedly, up to and during the time of Christ, Israel had a "museum" of sorts where they had many giant bones and skeletons on display for those entering the Holy Land (as a testament to the truthfulness of the Biblical Scriptures). I believe Josephus mentions this but I forget on this one. A great intro book for skeptics on the topic is: "Giants on Record: America's Hidden History, Secrets in the Mounds, and the Smithsonian Files" by Jim Vieira and Hugh Newman

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

the book of Enoch lists the Giants at 450FT tall, not 15, that is not even close

@pennsyltuckyreb9800 Жыл бұрын

@Sleepy Star Common Enoch mistranslation that has been addressed by other folks. I believe the verse in question is Enoch 7:3 commonly translated close to: "And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells..." Alternate rendering: "And the women became pregnant, and there were born unto them three sorts, the first were great giants, and to the giants were born nephilim, and to the nephilim were born elioud." Each successive generation being smaller. It's theorized 1st generation were 30-50 ft tall. (There is a medieval historical record find of a giant skeleton in Europe measured at 36ft. The skeleton, being so ancient, quickly disintegrated upon exposure to the fresh air). 2nd generation would be around 18-20ft. (Two largest skeletons on record found in North America were 18 footers. West Hickory, PA and Austin, TX) 3rd generation (Goliath Brothers generation) from 8-15ft. Goliath Brothers, Og, etc

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@pennsyltuckyreb9800 its say they were 139 cubits, the same measurement they always used in the Bible.

@pennsyltuckyreb9800 Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 Can you give me the Bible verse that is? I don't remember

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@pennsyltuckyreb9800 no i meant in enoch they use cubits as the measurement just like in the Bible.

@waltergregory2368 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Marshall, I had a good friend who use to always question why the book of Enoch wasn’t in the Bible. When he died several years ago we have joked that he is still arguing with St. Peter why Enoch isn’t in the Bible. Great explanation by the way!

@dsua3728 Жыл бұрын

I think Enoch was real

@dalia5378 Жыл бұрын

@@dsua3728 of course he was!! 😊

@denihand9739 Жыл бұрын

Read the correct Bible. Douay Rheims.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@ulysses_grant Жыл бұрын

@@denihand9739What does it have of different? Could you explain me? Authentic question here. Thank you.

@CRUSNET Жыл бұрын

If fallen angels had copulated with women, then how about Our Lord's word that angels do not marry or be married (Mat.22:30)??? Please Dr. Taylor Marshall, ANSWER THIS before you make further confusion.

@KenAmmi-Shalom Жыл бұрын

Our Lord never said, "that angels do not marry or be married (Mat.22:30)" please re-read that verse and focus on Jesus' specificity, His emphasis, His qualifying terms.

@CRUSNET Жыл бұрын

@@KenAmmi-Shalom Implicitly He CLEARLY said that! "For in the resurrection they shall neither marry nor be married; but SHALL BE AS THE ANGELS of God in heaven." So.. angels do not marry or be married. As simple as that.

@KenAmmi-Shalom Жыл бұрын

@@CRUSNET Friend, you missed Jesus' words, His emphasis, His qualifying terms, His meaning, His teaching since, as you quoted it, He specifically referred to, "ANGELS of God in heaven": thus, the loyal ones. Such is why those who did marry are considered sinners, having "left their first estate," as Jude put it.

@zhenyamugisa9423 24 күн бұрын

@@CRUSNETI take that to mean the angels who remained loyal to God ,do not marry ,but only out of choice.The fallen do not have this self restraint.

@universalflamethrower6342 Жыл бұрын

The Lord of Spirits (Orthodox) Radio show lays this out pretty nicely, Christians of all denominations are increasingly subscribing to this view. As this watcher pattern repeats itself through history and in the church I think this is a valid way of interpreting scripture.

@blankblank8292 Жыл бұрын

Which episode? Thks.

@universalflamethrower6342 Жыл бұрын

@@blankblank8292 it is sorta all of them. But I would say that first couple of episodes lead nicely to the Halloween episode Giants, that show has it all.

@allisgrace1313 Жыл бұрын

Love The Lord of Spirits podcast!

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@universalflamethrower6342 Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 Jesus is The Son of God, it doesn't say God did not have other sons. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also ... Psalm 82 A psalm of Asaph. 1 God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”: 2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked?[b] 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. 5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” 8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance

@coffeegirl4279 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr Marshall I have always pondered this. I think if the Dead Sea Scrolls been discovered earlier the explanation in Enoch would’ve been more widely believed. As for me I think it’s not symbolic but was truly real. Keep going Dr Marshall.. you’re a blessing!

@Silent-N Жыл бұрын

According to the visions of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich (which I would highly recommend to anyone who hasn't yet read them already) the story about the Watchers copulating with humans and producing superhuman offspring happened literally, so I think it was most likely real as well.

@TF80s Жыл бұрын

@@Silent-N ...but Angels are spiritual beings..it's not possible.

@MillionthUsername Жыл бұрын

@@TF80s So perhaps it was akin to demon possession, not that the angels had actual bodies.

@Triniforchrist Жыл бұрын

@@TF80s remember two angel went into Sordom, and the men wanted to have sex with them, Justin Martyr and Irenaeus and many others early church fathers believe this as well

@chrissherman2713 Жыл бұрын

Angels show up in human form many times in the Bible

@xadrach Жыл бұрын

Michael Heiser, God rest his soul, is one of the chief protestant scholars that pushed me back into catholicism. especially in his divine council worldview.

@ellen5596 Жыл бұрын

One of the BEST EXPOSITIONS ever on the Nephillim.

@judelynbailey2268 Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!!

@elizabethhelmin3346 Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!!

@David-kf5su Жыл бұрын

Your a fool if you believe him! He is a propaganda machine, trying to sell books that see it !

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@brucejohnson4462 Жыл бұрын

I'm still at a loss as an angel is a spiritual being. Without matter. So how can they breed a woman who is made of matter? God of course can sent His Holy Spirit upon Mary but there is no reference to demons having that ability?

@sbart6591 Жыл бұрын

Great topic! I lean towards Dr. Michael Heiser's interpretation, may perpetual light shine upon him.

@diodato22 Жыл бұрын

Which is?

@j.peluso2139 Жыл бұрын

There were Giants.👺👹👿

@lucyfahrbach309 Жыл бұрын

It certainly is a lesson for us. The heretics are really creating monsters.

@here_we_go_again2571 Жыл бұрын

For sure! 😒😒

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@Jkp1321 Жыл бұрын

This is the best video on the Nephilim and I can say this confidently because it was just last week I went down a Nephilim rabbit hole. There have been some recent conspiracy type things of people believing they have seen giants, and so I had to know more. Great timing.

@elizabethhelmin3346 Жыл бұрын

I have looked into this topic several times as well. I am still wondering why God would put fallen angels in charge of humans and/or if they were once good angels how on earth did they go bad?

@Jkp1321 Жыл бұрын

@@elizabethhelmin3346 they were good angels who went bad, just like Lucifer

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@patriciasteinkirchner2371 Жыл бұрын

Dear Dr. Marshall, congratulations to your birthday. God bless you and your family. Thank you for your work. I am also a conservative Roman-Catholik from Bavaria, Germany and know the problems very well. Best wissen from Patricia. Steinkirchner Steinkirchner

@patriciasteinkirchner2371 Жыл бұрын

wishes, of course.

@Jeff-xp8un Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the bible study. To me bible study means a lot and it is hard to understand, so thanks for explaining it.

@philipmichael4106 Жыл бұрын

I read a creation legend that contends that Adam, having the entire genetic code within him of the human race, was virtually perfect, and 124 ft tall. Eve was apparently, 118 ft tall. When God willing we arrive happily in heaven, there is so much to learn and many answers to be given. Isn't that a joyful thought!

@Sigmareich Жыл бұрын

Before I became Catholic, while on my last deployment my roommate and I spoke on this subject greatly. Wish this video was out back than, it’s great

@KjMiller420 7 ай бұрын

I used to be Catholic and then I realized that the higher-ups at the Vatican are amongst the most crooked people in the world. They are only interested in power money controlling you. I was born a Catholic and then when I realized what was going on I left and sought out real Christians who's only priority was to Worship the Lord and spread his word and nothing else. It was about the knowledge and everything instead of concealing it from you a manipulating you like a Catholic Church does

@CatholicMailman Жыл бұрын

What about Goliath? Is he a Nephilim? And the giants that the Israelites had to battle to enter the promise land? Are they nephilims?

@danielchiu7795 Жыл бұрын

One of the most comprehensive exposition on the topic out there… thank you so much for your work. Blessings

@lindat2037 Жыл бұрын

I think that believing that the Nephalim are fallen Angels contradicts basic Catholic teaching that angels chose definitively to either stay with God or turn from God before the creation of man.

@psychedelicdivinity2872 8 ай бұрын

Well The Catholic Exorcist I have seen on KZbin say that the Demons are Fallen Angels. It’s not against Church Teaching, but Damned Half Breeds are also demons in there own right. We have no idea what’s really going on at a level past our human conception with the blockage of sin keeping us from experiencing the full range of reality. A.K.A we only see within a 3 dimensional Plane

@JDDees 28 күн бұрын

Nephilim are NOT fallen angels,.. they are the offspring of women and the SUPPOSED fallen angels. Nothing but advanced aliens!

@tonypanella7781 Жыл бұрын

You nailed it Dr Taylor but this subject goes deeper. Please more talks on Genesis 6 topic. Also Fatma, Garabandal Spain, and Medjugorje. All great topics and very important for humanity. God bless you and your family in Jesus name 🙏

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@tonypanella7781 Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 check out the book of Job 1: 6 2: 1 38: 7 only in the new testament that reference is made reborn through Christ. Dr Chuck Missler watch his videos on Genesis. Also get your references from the Suptuagint (LXX)

@eowvice Жыл бұрын

agreed. not enough people talk about neither fatima nor medjugorje. nor the seriousness of why God deemed it necessary to send the Virgin Mary to appear on earth

@hogstooth5048 Жыл бұрын

This is wonderful. Thank you. This is why I like to buy your books and support you in appreciation for taking the time.

@gdc6614 16 күн бұрын

Thank you for speaking on so many different subjects. As a returning Catholic I need all of these information to enrich my faith and knowledge.

@michaelfusco4801 Жыл бұрын

What's confusing is that I thought that all the fallen angels fell at the beginning of time and not later.

@Luckyraindrops Жыл бұрын

I thought so too. It seems like there were some angels left that were on the fence about total submission to God’s Will, and manifested themselves later?

@sweetmary3233 Жыл бұрын

Not only that, does it mean angels can change their mind? How can the procreate when they don't have physical bodies?

@MillionthUsername Жыл бұрын

@@sweetmary3233 Angels/demons can't procreate and don't have physical bodies per se but can appear so and even act so to an extent since they have power over matter (as God allows). The story perhaps refers to a sex ritual where the demons are so involved and so possessing the human souls involved that you could say the offspring were also possessed and thus virtually the 'offspring' of the demons. I don't know how that would lead to giants though, unless the demons had knowledge of DNA and were somehow allowed to alter it. This should not be thought of as impossible, however, since we ourselves as intelligent creatures are able to manipulate matter and are on the verge of truly dangerous knowledge in many fields. Also, perhaps since that time God has restricted what demons are allowed to do and so we don't see this aspect of their interference in our world anymore.

@careybowden4864 Жыл бұрын

@@MillionthUsername I've been puzzling these details, but I really like your insights!

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@IpCrackle Жыл бұрын

I wonder what Fr. Ripperger would have to say on this topic. While I’m open to admitting the truth of this matter, what becomes of our tradition that the angels fell at the first exercise of their will?

@AnnaThibeau 7 ай бұрын

This is exactly what my question is as well. The angels’ decision to serve God is set.

@highstrangeness1824 3 ай бұрын

I'm uncertain as to how that conflicts? Regardless of when they fell, Genesis tells us, they fell to earth & took the wives of rhwir choosing. I'm not sure why people can't read it as it is. It's pretty plain.

@luciennenulton769 Жыл бұрын

Dr Marshall ,I am at AW, I always herd of some stuff like that but never looked in to it .I read my Bible after but I never looked into the Bible or books we were not taught about . This is so awesome learning this at my age 82, i did not move away from my I pad. 😮Thank you so much , I watch you every day when you are on I-have learned so much so I do not want to miss your streams. Thank you so much please keep your show going I have learned more in this past 3 years then in all my life. God Bless you Always .

@andreafirth577 Жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation , ❤am currently learning more from you after coming out of Protestant / England's churches and needed this Thankyou

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@marcya2865 Жыл бұрын

Oh, thank you, very, very much for ancient Biblical knowledge explained in a very informative & interesting way! God Bless you‼️❣️

@yolandaarenas6492 Жыл бұрын

“Thank U, Dr.Marshall”, Excellent, Excellent, U have the Gift of Explaining So Clearly, I can hardly wait for more!

@drenamir1647 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr. Marshall. I couldn't understand Genesis 6 and didn't want to read it. Now this chapter is understandable and logical. God bless you and your work.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@lazarusparley Жыл бұрын

Dr Heiser’s work is cutting edge and brilliant, thank you Dr Marshall for sharing his work on Nephilim.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@DH-qp2gy Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 Divine beings are referred to as sons of God three times in the book of Job.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@DH-qp2gy Job 1 1There was a man in the land of Hus, whose name was Job, and that man was simple and upright, and fearing God, and avoiding evil. 2And there were born to him seven sons and three daughters. 3And his possession was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a family exceeding great: and this man was great among all the people of the east. 4And his sons went, and made a feast by houses every one in his day. And sending they called their three sisters to eat and drink with them. 5And when the days of their feasting were gone about, Job sent to them, and sanctified them: and rising up early offered holocausts for every one of them. For he said: Lest perhaps my sons have sinned, and have blessed God in their hearts. So did Job all days. 6Now on a certain day when the sons of God came to stand before the Lord, Satan also was present among them.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@DH-qp2gy Job 2 1And it came to pass, when on a certain day the sons of God came, and stood before the Lord, and Satan came among them, and stood in his sight, 2That the Lord said to Satan: Whence comest thou ? And he answered and said: I have gone round about the earth, and walked through it

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@DH-qp2gy Job 38 7When the morning stars praised me together, and all the sons of God made a joyful melody? If the stars are angels who are the sons of God?

@normanrpaul1 4 ай бұрын

Dr. Hieser’s research is very strong

@garrettborak9209 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting topic and an excellent explanation of the Nephilim Dr. Marshall. There is a well known story about a Giant that was discovered by the U.S. military during the Afghanistan campaign known as the Giant of Kandahar. They have even interviewed one of the soldiers that encountered this Giant. This soldier claimed that his unit was sent out to find and locate a unit that went missing. He describes how his unit discovered human bones and military equipment and clothing outside the entrance to a mouth of a particular cave and this Giant runs out of this cave with a shield and a spear and it apparently speared one of the soldiers and was trying to kill the others. He said this Giant was massive and was moving with such great speed and strength that something that big shouldn't be able to move that fast. They eventually killed this Giant by shooting it in the face. He claimed they shot it in the body but it didn't seem to do any damage. Once killed the U.S. military flew out these huge helicopters to scoop this thing up. Apparently they measured this Giant who turned out to be 12 feet tall and weighing around 1200 pounds I believe if I remember correctly. He claims the Smithsonian took the Giant away never to be seen again. This was so that to keep the Darwinian narrative alive. The elites know that the Biblical narrative is real and having proof of the Giants would destroy the Darwinian narrative according to the Christian, historian and archeologist LA Marzulli who is the man that interviews this soldier. The interview is on youtube. Scripture talks about how it will be like in the days of Noah.

@JF-vf7mm Жыл бұрын

Wow! Amazing!

@dianestrutz7169 Жыл бұрын

One of my high school biology students told me part of this story he heard from a soldier prior to my student entering the armed forces and eventually becoming a Navy Seal. My student, Cole, was told that during the Afghanistan War at a certain confrontation one had to aim higher because the target was so very much taller.

@dalia5378 Жыл бұрын

Garret Very interesting story! Thanks!

@charlmuniz6456 Жыл бұрын

Sorry. I find that hard to believe. Not you, but the soldier.

@KITTYGALOREXXX Жыл бұрын

There is a large Afghan diaspora in Toronto where I live, it is known and within their folklore of the existence of fallen angel giants who dwell in caves of the remote highland mountain regions.

@SweetHeart-vc6zy Жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the background and history on the Book of Enoch. I always wondered how that book was left out of the Bible.

@catholicchannel3310 Жыл бұрын

I think the book of Enoch is included in the Ethiopian bible. The Ark of the Covenant is supposedly kept in a church in Ethiopia.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@emeraldfox7175 Жыл бұрын

@Sleepy Star man stfu and go play in traffic some where!

@standupstraight9691 Жыл бұрын

@@catholicchannel3310 . Yeah im sure it is. But why would you care, since Christ fulfilled the law, and is dead set against relics and icons? oh yeah, Catholic..

@patrickarchuleta9594 Жыл бұрын

All is vanity do not be deceived with the tradition of men. And thanks for the true word of the Almighty praise his Holy name. May he continue to bless all who call on the name of the Lord.

@mariachico4456 Жыл бұрын

Love when you teach scripture. Thank you - one of your best videos.

@j.elle912 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting Dr.Marshall! You're a great teacher. I love these types of videos where you're teaching the bible, especially the more complicated concepts. Keep them coming.

@lowellbarger5999 2 ай бұрын

In book of Joshua he sent spies and they came back saying we were like grasshoppers compared to the giants

@ninakosi7979 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for expanding our understanding about, nephilim, angels and fallen men of the ancient book. Thank you Doctor Marshall for all your very useful podcast.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@LUIS-ox1bv Жыл бұрын

Extremely interesting. At one time, when I was a Buddhist, I came across teachings in the ancient Buddhist tradition, which taught of a time when men were taller and lived longer then men today. The story of the flood and existence prior to it, is a widespread belief, which gives credence to the Book Of Genesis.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@L A lol yeah a book by a man outside of scripture is gonna tell me what scripture says. God has never Called Angels his sons, you go ahead and reject this verse.

@Danny-zm5rh Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638Leviticus 20:13. Do you reject this verse?

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@Danny-zm5rh what? Nope, why would I reject a moral law of the old covenant ?

@Danny-zm5rh Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 I just wanted to be clear that at dinner parties and social gatherings, you boldly proclaim that they should be executed.

@rpvp7756 Жыл бұрын

The Book of Enoch makes so much sense and even the verse we know well (Genesis 5:24) is revealing; “Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him” is a very powerful statement! Also, the Book of Enoch was lost for western Christianity (perhaps on purpose), however it was never lost for Ethiopian Christianity, which has preserved a lot of originality and has preserved to be an genuine and truthful source of information about our distant past. Ethiopian Christianity is true gem: either inside Ethiopian Catholic or Coptic Church!!!

@lindat9083 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! I'm not Catholic, I really like listening to every thing. I have so many questions still. I'm sure I will eventually find them. God Bless

@MsDormy Жыл бұрын

Keep absorbing these truths, Linda. The reality of the supernatural world is both mind blowing, terrifying and wonderfully reassuring!!

@lindat9083 Жыл бұрын

@@MsDormy yes , I find it terrifying. I don't want to be left behind.

@ranger8435 Жыл бұрын

@@lindat9083 Linda, are you born again?

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@ericthoman4069 Жыл бұрын

Disclaimer: I'm really slow when it comes to understanding most things. So , here goes... How does a pure spiritual being, e.g., a fallen angel, physically impart male dna to a women to produce a baby?

@BayouMaccabee Жыл бұрын

This exact question has always been my hang-up to this story as well, and I have never heard a convincing explanation. There might be a good & valid explanation out there somewhere, and I'm certainly open-minded enough to consider it, but I have yet to able to find a convincing one.

@MillionthUsername Жыл бұрын

A demonic sex ritual involving possessed male and female participants and demons together. That would produce real babies that are likely possessed as well. This would also explain God sending the Flood since this would be the epitome of perversion of the human race.

@patricia-vg7dn Жыл бұрын

Jesus spoke of Elisha but I don't believe He address any of this

@andykurzynske8817 Жыл бұрын

Check out Genesis 18 and 19. Angels took the form of men in these chapters. If they were only spiritual beings, how did they physically consume food with Abraham and physically pull Lot back into the house when visiting Sodom before it’s destruction? Check out The Unseen Realm by Dr. Michael Heiser. He comments on all of this. May God bless you all as we strive to grow deeper in our faith.

@mhelkhorbledar Жыл бұрын

Probably artificial insemination.

@LA-em4kr Жыл бұрын

The book of Enoch is pretty outstanding in the understanding of our Spiritual History. Absolutely believe in this book.

@KjMiller420 7 ай бұрын

Check out the Book of Giants 2 it was also one of the books edit it out of the modern Bible by the Catholic Church

@joebaughman5231 Жыл бұрын

I like the theme of the Apostles using this teaching to show the punishment of heretics to be the same as these giants.

@maggielingam5901 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr.Taylor Marshall love listening to your talk.

@koolhub6137 8 ай бұрын

Finally a great scholar giving correct Bible history, thank you stir and may the lord God bless and continue your great work.

@AnHebrewChild 4 ай бұрын

Did you purposely put spaces between each word? It really makes your comment stand out. I think I may start doing that.

@elsiesalcedo9478 Жыл бұрын

Super interesting Dr. Marshall thanks for doing all the research and sharing with us.

@TitusKingdom Жыл бұрын

Wow Dr Taylor this was awesome and thought provoking. Excellent video sir. I always went with Saint Thomas and Saint Augustine said but I never knew they did not have access to the book of Enoch... wow

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@josellers1376 Жыл бұрын

Well done Dr Marshall, God bless you and your family.

@mcintyrekingcompany6261 Жыл бұрын

I think they definitely read it as being true. St. Irenaeus says in his “On the Apostolic Preaching”, that Genesis 6 is talking about exactly what 1 Enoch says. He also says this almost in passing as being a common reading. Being so close to St. Polycarp and St. John the Apostle, this suffices for my view.

@sweetmary3233 Жыл бұрын

Ifthe Angels were separated in the beginning during the fall, how can there be new evil angels that betray God. Didn't God know they would do this? Does that mean Angels can change their mind because this is much after the fall? Also angels don't have physical bodies, how can they make offspring? Can they have intercourse with each other then? And if so why not make Angel babies? None of this makes any sense from what the the Church teaches about angels. I would love how you explain all of this to yourself.

@christinawilliams1407 Жыл бұрын

You put some info in front of me about the Nephilim. I'm gonna need to listen to this and your other Nephilim talks. I have never had anyone explain more than a sentence or two. Thank You.

@charliechurch5004 Жыл бұрын

Plz check out pastor Arnold Murray on the 3 world ages this man does not know the half of it.

@PyramidEagle 10 ай бұрын

The belief about alien invasion and of human interbreeding with angels is a myth. Jesus said angels do not marry. They don't have flesh and blood and do not posses the power to create flesh or change from angelic body to human body. Only God exclusively has that power. The Nephilim are the descendants of Cain . The Bible says Adam is a son of God. So the sons of Adam are sons of God. Cain was not a son of Adam, which is why he is listed in a separate geneaology from Adam. Cain wad the offspring of the adultery between Eve and the erect human like and voluble serpent. Read your Bible carefully. That is the origin of the Nephelims. Cains race. Angels do not have blood and sperms and therefore cannot sex or produce any giants. The assertion of angels marrying women is a heathen folktale, which is not based on Scriptures. In the creation story, we are not told that God put angels on earth unless you are reading that from an apocryphal book or a heathen source. Moses remains the only authentic source for the creation account. If you are trying to create a classification of angels on earth and in heaven, saying that Jesus only mentioned angels in heaven as the only ones that couldn't have sex, remember he did not say anything about the angels on earth having sex. So let us be silent where he is silent. The Bible reveals that angels are originally meant to be in heaven. However, due to rebellion, Lucifer and his angels were cast down. In Matthew 25, Jesus spoke of the two categories of angels, namely the Holy angels led by Christ in verse 31, who retain their original estate in loyalty and in verse 41, the Devil and his own angels, who are the rebelious ones. If you read Revelation 12:7-9, you will find the two categories of angels again. The dragon, which is Lucifer, or Satan is cast down to earth with his angels. Your belief here is based on folktales rather than inspiration. The Bible was written by men as they were inspired by God. If you deny that there are two separate races of men from Genesis 3 [ Cain and Seth], how do you expect the Bible prophecy in Genesis 3:15 to have fulfilled in Messaiah Jesus? According to Isaiah 14:12-20, Lucifer is a fallen angel, and so were his angels. Once fallen, Lucifer and his angels are no longer referred to as sons of God and can not fit the description of Genesis 6. Again, if as the chief of the angel on earth, in the garden of Eden, Lucifer could not create a flesh for himself or transform himself into human flesh in order to cause the fall, how could his cohorts ever have that ability. Your interpretation is a Jehovah Witnesesses false doctrine that you are pushing too hard there. It is bald incoherent interpretation in the face of Scriptures.

@angelasmithgiardina9121 Жыл бұрын

YES ,We are living in the book of ENOCH

@Herdingcats1917 Жыл бұрын

Good talk. Interesting subject. I lean towards Dr Michael Heisers’ take (he very recently passed away). His deep scholarly understanding of ancient languages as well as the subtle meanings they convey leads me to give credence to his interpretations. Reading his book The Unseen Realm now. It brings the OT to life.

@deedeeunkefer2270 Жыл бұрын

He was a gifted man for our times.ay he rest in peace.

@incorrigibletexan152 Жыл бұрын

He was a great man.

@j4cksincl4ir Жыл бұрын

I can't get over his passing.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@meika9067 3 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for addressing this and answering these questions. There is so much crazy info out there that it's hard to know what to trust so I really appreciate your videos.

@GaressiAngie Жыл бұрын

A profound & huge investigation clearly explained & synthesized; thank you for sharing it Dr. Marshall. My conclusion goes for your 2nd option & it can be applied to the heretic bishops, who are accepting the most evil corruption in our Saint, Catholic & Apostolic Church. God please, have mercy on us!

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@nateb4543 Жыл бұрын

Im fascinated by ancient giants and how the half man/half deity story is found in so many cultures. What isn't as clear is the rephiam. Which my understanding is they are the post flood giants. This is what the spies would've seen or any skeletons found wouldve been descendants of.

@seutiatelefry3995 Жыл бұрын

I love learning from you. You are a wonderful teacher I wish I had you as a teacher. You teach my favorite subject. I love learning from you Please keep teaching this subject fr the bible and the words of our Lord jesus christ AMEN.

@rebelsoul777 Жыл бұрын

Hey dr. Marshall, you said tha giants were destroyed by the flood but in Genesis 6,4 says (as well as later): "At that time the Nephilim appeared on earth (as well as later), after the sons of heaven had intercourse with the daughters of man, who bore them sons." Bible mentions that giants appeared even after the flood Numbers 13, 33 ""The land that we explored is a country that consumes its inhabitants. And all the people we saw there are huge men veritable giants (the Anakim were a race of giants); we felt like mere grasshoppers, and so we must have seemed to them." What do you think about that?

@capecodder04 Жыл бұрын

Good point

@AnHebrewChild 4 ай бұрын

They _were_ destroyed in the flood. And then after the deluge another incursion occurred. ie the sons of God came into the daughters of Adam both before the flood and after the flood, and both of these times the daughters of Adam gave birth to giants.

@TheFFLevi Жыл бұрын

First, this was extremely well done. I personally believe that St. Peter and St. Jude (and St. Paul) were referencing what they took to be an actual story referencing the watchers. I believe if St. Aquinas and St. Augustine were to have the 1st book of Enoch along with the other reference DSS’s they would also likely come to the same conclusion. It was just a lack of having that reference in their time period that drew them to make a logical conclusion. Thanks for making this Dr. Marshall!

@here_we_go_again2571 Жыл бұрын

And, I am sure that during their era St. Augustine and St. Aquinas were fighting back against the (still very popular) "folk tales" (characters of the pagan pantheon) Nor would either admit that a layering of culture had occured as Christianity took over Europe and displaced the old local (as well as local/Roman mergings) pagan beliefs.

@arvelote4581 Жыл бұрын

When God created angels and after 1/3 fall down on earth, their will have been fixed in disobedience and will of good angel were fixed in obedience to God. That will never change. So how could after that God sent watchers as good angels down on earth and they became evil after ??? Very confusing. Can someone explain how they believe it could happen? Angels have only one choice for God or against. After that no more messing around 😊

@dakotaman3384 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget that Daniel 4 makes mention of the angelic watchers as well, and giving a decree no less.

@bobbettedavis9168 Жыл бұрын

I have the same questions as well.

@TheFFLevi Жыл бұрын

@@arvelote4581 that’s a really good question. I would at least speculate since they were able to procreate these angels were given special permissions to become physical beings. Angels otherwise are pure spirit; like God. These angels may be subject to the ‘free will’ that our realm on earth gives and they were tempted - like we are tempted. We have the ability to be redeemed. Angels also have what’s called morning and evening knowledge and humans are learning beings thus we can be redeemed. Dr. Marshall even said that Enoch prayed for (at least) the offspring of these beings, the giants. It is written in the 1st book of Enoch that St. Michael trembled at the punishment bestowed upon these beings after Gods decision of judgement. Not only were they wicked and evil but they altered the genetics of humans - which appears to be of the utmost importance to God. So a theory could at least be; in order to be a physical being in this realm (with DNA to pass along) - even the watcher angels would be subject to free will and the use of evening knowledge (as written by Aquinas) thus carnal temptation and they fell from Gods grace.

@TheComicbookguy78 Жыл бұрын

I have faith and all will be revealed in time.

@joannametcalf8113 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for all your catechetical videos like this. 🙂👍

@chuycapetillo2600 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr Taylor for all this info it makes a lot sense for what it is going on in our church right now., thank you for doing the search for us. Love you in the love of our Lord Jesús Cristo!

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@HelenETSmith-fx2dv Жыл бұрын

GREAT, DETAILED THEOLOGY. Dr. Marshall, these deep theological videos is what drew me to your videos (by accident of trolling) 3 years ago. I just love your detailed explanation and instruction on the subject manner. My goodness, I just have to take your courses. Thank You so much Dr. Marshall for these videos.

@wandabeasley3419 Жыл бұрын

This have always whol my attention I thought the giants build the tall building back then .

@influencija Жыл бұрын

I believe that st. Jude, st. Peter were referring to the book of Enoch, I believe that author of Gen 6 was referring to the similar myth, but I do not think God, who is the true Author of the Bible wanted that in. That's why we have tidbits and references with no explicit story in the Bible.

@janeyount8412 Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Even Jesus referred to rabbinic writings that weren't part of accepted Scripture.

@sunbrookheath Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this, Pastor & Dr. Marshall

@unvailingtheveilwormwood8185 Жыл бұрын

Watching it all fall apart and everything fades away just like it had been before yet to repeat once again.

@Barbie.Boo1961 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I feel cheated (not really) that I was not told the whole truth at my church. ( non denominational) . My mother would not let me go to a Catholic Church. My mom was horrified when I told her I wanted to be a Nun. I was 9. I got a bad spanking, sent to my room. I have no idea why she never said, I only asked once in my 20s. I am 62 now and am trying to through the process to become a catholic , Dr.Taylor has helped me tremendously to understand. I had fallen away and have only now found my way back to my Lord, but I want more of him, not just the sweet stuff, you know what I mean?

@praveendsouze Жыл бұрын

please google "The Abomination Of Desolation Spoken Of By Daniel Will Soon Be Implemented By Islam’s Antichrist And This Caused Me (Walid Shoebat) To Become CATHOLIC" by Walid Shoebat.

@mariemiller8740 Жыл бұрын

God bless your journey Barbara Geiman into the church

@melindedemmers264 Жыл бұрын

Today, while watching Michael Heiser’s Supernatural Seminar (youtube, I thought ‘Let’s ask Dr. Marshall if he can make a video on the fallen angels, nephilim from a Catholic point of view.’….😉 Thanks for this clear and thoroughly researched explanation 👍🏼🤗. Love from the Netherlands 🇳🇱👋🏼😊.

@silverback7348 4 күн бұрын

This begs the question: What, in fact, ARE angels? And the different classifications that are described VERY differently. This is why a talent like Timothy Alberino adds a valuable (and to many controversial) perspective with his voice.

@skydancer1867 Жыл бұрын

There are 2 obvious problems with the Enoch story: 1. Angels are incorporeal. They do not copulate as humans do. 2. An angel's will is fixed. If he fell, he did so at the beginning of time. There is a reason Enoch is not in the Bible, but it cannot be dismissed completely. There is a hybrid interpretation possible. Each fallen angel had a purpose God assigned them that they rebelled against. The watchers could have been demons originally assigned to be guardian angels. In the book of Enoch, the chronology could be off regarding the timing of the demon's fall. Additionally, when the demons supposedly copulated with women, this could mean the demons influenced men from the line of Seth to be seduced by evil women. These women were their downfall, influencing them to commit idolatry and all manner of other sins. This happened to many other men in the Bible, such as Adam, Ahab, and Solomon.

@rtfirefly8092 Жыл бұрын

That is possible. Maybe at the time these angels were created, what was their downfall was that when they were given the knowledge of women, they fell into lust at that time and damned themselves. Demons fell for many reasons, so why not lust?

@skydancer1867 Жыл бұрын

@@rtfirefly8092 My understanding is that angels and demons, as incorporeal beings, do not have desires of the flesh as we do.

@magister_scaccorum Жыл бұрын

I wrote a paper on this for a theology course. Cornelius a Lapide compiles interesting opinions on the matter. Some early Fathers like St. Justin Martyr appear to endorse human/demon unions as the source of the nephilim; after St. Augustine, that opinion becomes a small minority. However, I think the data is best explained as human/demonic unions, not as though the demons can reproduce or have DNA, but that a fallen angel, appearing to a man as a succubus, then appears to a woman as an incubus with the stolen seed. Some people want to quibble about the etymology of Nephilim, but it seems to be plainly an Aramaic loanword and the LXX and Vulgate both use the appropriate word for "giant," so that's not too confusing.

@pennsyltuckyreb9800 Жыл бұрын

I agree demons are the souls of dead Nephilim (and Nephilim weren't only just giants, but also various other abominations of nature the fallen angels mixed their seed with from animals to all kinds of human hybrids). These creations possessed souls but because they weren't from God or directly human to human (we were made in the image/likeness of God), they were forever damned once they died. Irredeemable. This was an active effort by the fallen angels/watchers to corrupt all of creation, especially to eventually corrupt the DNA of Noah's line (Noah was "clean in all his generations") which lead to the Davidic line which led to Jesus Christ's incarnation. It was all and attempt to stop the Incarnation and/or destroy anything and everything from being saved.

@Radxcor83 Жыл бұрын

I have heard something similar, and to me it makes the most sense. If you listen to an Exorcist, it's not out of the realm of Demons to manipulate physical matter. I've also wondered if they could even do this in dreams, thus collecting "nocturnal emissions" and then supplanting that into a women who is also given some sort of sexual dream. The idea that Demons are still at work in the world, and in fact the world has been given over to them (princes and principalities), I don't think it's a far reach for that theory to be true.

@elainec7369 Жыл бұрын

This is obvious. Angels don't have what it takes. They are superior to men spiritually speaking, but they don't have the ability to procreate. Hybrids are purely speculation. The simplest answer is probably the correct one. The Watchers understood that the children of the sons of Seth and the daughters of Cain would produce giants and drew them together to interbreed and for that reason were punished for it.

@elainec7369 Жыл бұрын

Yes, the book of Enoch is real, but it appears the book was lost long enough so that it couldn't be added to the canon of scripture, being unnecessary for salvation per se, but still valuable for wisdom and understanding for some since it is confusing to many. Seth's children were forbidden to interact with Cain's children, so when they did, they broke the greatest law of God's children: avoid idolaters. The Watchers seduced the Sons of God to interact with the Daughters of Men, just not carnally.

@patricegravino8120 Жыл бұрын

Please advise where can I find Cornelius a Lapide on the Old Testament? I've only been able to find him on the four Gospels ... I understand a Lapide also wrote commentary on Revelation. His works are hard to find! But are soooo good.

@fredtrevino9201 23 күн бұрын

Great presentation. I not only accept it as a literal historical truth, but propose that the line started by them may still be with us today as Narcissists.

@jorgegomes83 Жыл бұрын

One additional consideration could be what blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich tells us from her visions about this event in the book of Genesis. According to her, basically, this was the result of known, consensual and instrumentalized demonic possession. At first the women were the possessed, then by copulating in state of possession they conceived these so called giants who were born in state of possession. She adds that the giants, although impressive in their physical capabilities given to them by the devil, had nothing that could resemble any wisdom. This doesn't seem to conflict with what we've been learning from exorcists recently (like fr. Ripperger) on the mechanics of demonic possession. The people back then did a lot of very evil things and became subject to diabolic influence, just like occurs today.

@beefstew4698 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting

@ulysses_grant Жыл бұрын

Tbh, I'm very confused about the state of the blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich. Many traditional Catholics say that it was an incorrect beatification, for many reasons; while other many catholics say it was correct. If anyone can shed some light on it, I'd be really thankful. Edit: It was just a comment about the blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich. I totally agree with what you said about not conflicting with what exorcisms have been teaching us lately.

@lindat2037 Жыл бұрын

And yes! If these ‘angels’ were demons, this is plausible. But angels could not ‘fall’ after the creation of man. Their choice was definitive.

@sleepystar1638 Жыл бұрын

@@ulysses_grant Faustina is the one with incorrect beautification.

@ulysses_grant Жыл бұрын

@@sleepystar1638 Why is that?