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@NerdoftheRings Ай бұрын

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@ToddRogers-ys9ox Ай бұрын

Hello nerd I have a idea what if the elves woke up in the age of the lamps

@michaelbattin3362 Ай бұрын

I am surprised you didn't mention the Woses. The men of Ghân-buri-Ghân from the Drúedain of Drúadan Forest I alway thought they were Dunlendings also. Please correct me if I am mistaken

@oudugan8676 Ай бұрын

And Lexi at GNG!!!

@htilden42 Ай бұрын

I always liked that Tolkien's "evil" men are never inherently evil, they often have legitimate grievances against the Men of the West that were then manipulated and transformed into millennia-long hatred by Morgoth or Sauron. It shows a level of moral complexity that people don't often associate with Tolkien's world.

@williamtrowbridge4868 Ай бұрын

Well said. To add to that thought, the "good" men are also complex when you look at the level of entire societies. There might be certain paragons of virtue that give their civilizations/bloodlines a good name, but their contemporaries or descendants are just as likely to be corrupted or get caught up in political squabbles as the "evil" people. If anything, the "good" part is only a rule when it comes to longevity, culture and technology, in those areas the high-peoples tend to be universally better.

@TricksterPoi Ай бұрын

Agreed. It is always started with some ancient grievances that made them easy pawns for the big bad.

@christopherwall2121 24 күн бұрын

Except the Corsairs of Umbar, IIRC

@alexanderholder1913 11 күн бұрын

For me, it’s also the notion that Morgoth really did have a bit of himself in Arda. Even the “men of the west” have corruptabimity and just a little hint of original evil. What makes the Silmarillion so enthralling.

@JMThought 9 сағат бұрын

@@christopherwall2121the Corsairs at the time of the war of the ring are descendants of Gondorians though. Those that turned to darkness during the civil war of Kim-strife over the inheritance of the throne. So they are in fact the bad eggs of the men of the west. The city itself was founded by Numenoirians but those who followed their King in Melkor worship.

@jordanfitzgerald7886 Ай бұрын

Fun fact in earlier drafts the surviving Dunlending warriors showed up at Dunharrow after Helms Deep/Hornhurg to help the Rohirrim fight Sauron's forces at Minas Tirith. I think this should have stayed in later drafts as it helped humanize them and show that peace could be made between them and the Rohirrim.

@HaldorZX Ай бұрын

I think it was right to remove it. Whilst the Dunlendings might have been willing to abide by treaty terms and help rebuild Helm's Deep I don't believe they would have marched to war alongside the Rohirrim. Saruman might have enflamed the Dunlending's hatred of Rohan in order to gain them as allies but he was building on very real long standing animosity (as shown in this video) which also existed on both sides (likely more so for the Rohirrim after the Dunlending's part in Helms Deep and prior attacks). I don't buy that both sides would have been able to let go of that enough to trust each other in battle and riding to war with an ally you don't trust is a BAD idea.

@steelcladCompliant 28 күн бұрын

Maybe if, after Helms Deep and as a show of good faith and no bad blood, Theoden had let them keep the (now) unoccupied parts of Rohan whose inhabitants had been killed, instead of sending them back to "their lands" across the gap, which sucked to live in. Letting them have some of their original lands back wouldve won their eternal loyalty, I think

@unodos149 18 күн бұрын

Eh... it would be crap writing to expect the Native Americans to bail the Colonialists out after being massacred by them. Gondor's ancestors did as much damage to the Dunlanders as Souron did to anybody.

@Edward-nf4nc Ай бұрын

There is hope. Erkinbrand said "never cross the Isen with arms for war". He did not say "never cross the Isen again". This shows that he hopes for peace, and maybe trade, between the Rohirrim and the Dunlendings in the future.

@colinbaldwin313 Ай бұрын

I hope so. The Dunlendings' final scene in The Two Towers does a bit of a disservice to their suffering: They've had much of their land usurped by the Rohirrim, and all's well because they're so stunned and grateful for the mercy of their victimizers? I wish Aragorn had recognized their victimization as clearly as he did that of the Druedain (to whom he granted the Druadan Forest and made it a condition that none should enter it without their permission), after he became King Elessar.

@oudugan8676 Ай бұрын

Matt, thank you. As an actual scholar myself, and a Tolkien adherent for more than 30 years: I truly appreciate your meticulous understanding of Tolkien. You and Robert at IDG are my happy places. I would be privileged if you every wanted to communicate with me.

@JaredKJames Ай бұрын

I think folks may be overlooking an obvious reason for the "squint eyed" description. If the man is a half orc, he would likely be sensitive to brighter light (like an orc). He may stand out because he's literally squinting all the time from rooms being too bright for him and daylight being uncomfortable.

@ShøreyForté-r8w 6 күн бұрын

Sounds AZN bro... Scots myth say they are Scythian. Scythians had Asian and European leaders. Alexander the Greats wife was Sogdian, who were comprised of both European and Asian leaders also. Like, full on Asian, I'm t walking crazy letter Chinese Asians. Emperors... Many Chinese and European share the same ancestry, I mean we all do, but some extremely recently in pre modern history... The Golden Horde, the Khazars, the Gokturks, they all got with Gaels. In fact, they probably were gaels who got with Asians and middle easterners.

@rogueascendant6611 Ай бұрын

Given that Tolkien written the Men of Middle-earth like ours. The House of Haleth, Haladin, are likewise counterparts of European groups of the Celts. Reclusive folks that lived in the woods and tend of a lifestyle of hunting and chiefdom. Numenorians at the time that betrayed the trust are likewise like the Roman legionnaires.

@mtgemperor Ай бұрын

Not a bad theory, friend!

@antalonampreel861 Ай бұрын

Yea that seems to fit

@ShøreyForté-r8w 6 күн бұрын

A dun is a castle. They weren't hiding from anybody, the opposite. It was too cocky for gross little peasants and raiding parties that don't have homes themselves that could be attacked... the amount of ruined castles. Why? How? How did vertkingaetorix people die? Hiding in the woods hmmm? You idiot.

@Jayjay-qe6um Ай бұрын

It is possible that the rivalry between the primitive Dunlendings and the blond-haired, pseudo-Anglo-Saxon Rohirrim who migrated into the lands neighboring them was meant by Tolkien to be analagous to the real life conflicts that rose between the Anglo-Saxons in England and neighboring Celtic peoples.

@SEKreiver 22 күн бұрын

I always read it as being EXACTLY that. I'm glad that JRRT 'redeemed' the Dunlendings in his later writings.

@ShøreyForté-r8w 6 күн бұрын

They are almost certainly the Caledonian... Dun/Den means castle/fort/cave... Cale means 'to hide', or 'stone', or 'beautiful'... root KEL. Or HELENA. Portugal, Caeldonia, Greece/Helens. So it's beautiful to some. But, it's hell in a cell over the salty seas for others... jail. Jannin. These are the kelts that expanded from Europe into Tolkiens Merry England... Gaels. Not Celts. Gaels included Irish, Scots and Norse MOST CERTAINLY, but most likely also included Iberia and Western Europe. They are fabled to have started kingdoms in Wales, like Dyfed/kingdom of David. Solomon, sol is shawl which again, means to hide or cover, as in Kel AND Dun. Edinburgh was originally called DUN EDEN, or the castle of the garden. New Zealand is where the new Dun Eden was named. It WAS supposed to be the capital. ZEALAND was the biggest part of the old Kels kingdom. So, Dunledings would be the Jacobites, the losers of the Schleswig wars, all the victims of the potato famine... the old gaelic kingdoms.

@SEKreiver 5 күн бұрын

@@ShøreyForté-r8w Where are you getting all of this? It's philogical/linguistic nonsense. Just two examples: The 'Norse' were in NO WAY 'Gaels'. "DUN"' is PAN-CELTIC. It is found in Gaulish placenames like LugDUNum (Lyons) and in ancient Brythonic names like MoriDUNum (Carmarthen) and DUNelm (Durham). MODERN Welsh has "din/dinas" which is derived from ancient *duno*. It can be found as far east as Romania (SingiDUNum). I find your extrapolations mind-boggling.

@shaggycan Ай бұрын

I always figured what he meant by squint eyed was that he was particularly sensitive to light, indicating he was a creature of darkness.

@SEKreiver 22 күн бұрын

Probably some Orcish blood.

@SEKreiver 22 күн бұрын

Good job! I played an early Third Age Dunlending noble in in ICE's MERP RPG. I gave him a P-Celtic name and a Brythonic culture. One of my favorite characters ever.

@logansfury Ай бұрын

This was a great first video watch of the day. As always an excellent job with well researched material, beautiful artwork, and quotations from Christopher Tolkien. With The Ride of the Rohirrim animation getting closer this was a perfect subject matter to ease the wait.

@deecee796 11 күн бұрын

So Freca walked in, shoots his shot, is insulted to his face for no other reason than his heritage. Is straight up MURDERED and has his extended family made exile. And hammerhand is punished for his prejudice and crime by paying for it with his and his son's deaths. Is this Tolkien-like karma?

@MerryMohProductions Ай бұрын

0:00-0:19 Opening paragraph sounds idly similar to the Haradrim; just switch our Rohan and Saruman with Gondor and Sauron and the similarities between the Dunlendings and the people of Haradwaith in regards to their earlier relations with the numenoreans and their fall into villainy by the third age stand out a bit.

@justthinkingoutloud2538 Ай бұрын

One little thing that always annoyed me in the films was how the Dunlendings were depicted as a bunch of savage hillbillies, I don't think they were any less technologically or culturally advanced than the Rohirrim. I find the history of the men in middle earth during the second age to be fascinating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the ancestors of the Dunlendings in the early second age were part of an empire ruled by the men of the white mountains who would become the oathbreakers, and it was these men that built Dunharrow. In fact, I understood that the word "Dun" specifically referred to these people, hence Dunharrow and Dunland sharing that root word. Can you verify or correct this?

@kpaasial Ай бұрын

It's almost unavoidable since the inspiration for the Dunlendings was very clearly the Picts, peoples inhabiting the wild north of what became modern Scotland and not known for being civilized, at least in the eyes of the Romans from whom most of the depictions of them come from.

@HaldorZX Ай бұрын

While I agree it could have been done better and am a big Dunlending fan I'm pretty sure Tolkien did suggest that they were less technologically advanced or at least were a poorer people, the Dunlendings who come to Helm's Deep are described as being fairly ill-equipped I think.

@istari0 Ай бұрын

The Rohirrim were allied with Gondor and had some access to the knowledge and culture of that kingdom. The Dunlendings did not. I believe the Rohirrim were more advanced and learned than the Dunlendings.

@justthinkingoutloud2538 Ай бұрын

@kpaasial That doesn't mean they needed to look so cartoonish, all dressed and acting like cracked-up homeless people. They could still have been shown to have some culture.

@lodevijk Ай бұрын

To be fair, the men of Bree look similarly dishevelled

@calorion Ай бұрын

You know what I would love? For you to make a visual accompaniment of a reading of LOTR, like an audiobook or Phil Dragash’s soundscape reading. You’d provide a silent video with corresponding graphics at every moment while we listened to the book in the background. That would be amazing.

@Darth_Traitorous Ай бұрын

You're covering a topic what 3 weeks before the movie happens. I'm excited for that movie. I hope the rest of the people that are here are as well.

@danielloewen2857 Ай бұрын

I completely forgot that movie but now that it's back on my mind I'm hyped again

@gabrielfournier2511 Ай бұрын

yes

@robertwolfgan Ай бұрын

@@danielloewen2857 Could you PLEASE provide me with more info about what movie you're talking about??? I wanna Google the heck out of it xD

@Sionnach1601 Ай бұрын

What film?? Is the hunt for gollum about to be released???

@robertwolfgan Ай бұрын

@@Sionnach1601 HEY! I just asked this same thing and they deleted my comment?! What the heck KZbin!!!!!! But yeah I'm also interested to know about what movie they are talking about so I can search all about it and be ready!!!

@UltimateSpider1385 Ай бұрын

I'm assuming King Aragorn along with Gondor and Rohan made peace with the Dunlandings.

@logansfury Ай бұрын

I would have to check the appendices to be certain, But I recall for certain That Aragorn made an announcement to Ghan-buri-ghan (sp?) that the Woses would retain ownership in peace of the forests they had already settled in, to be recognized by all of Gondor. I recall also that he made a law preventing Men from entering the Shire, and only met his dear friends himself at one of the border bridges. At some point during his return of Theoden's body to Rohan he very likely granted land to the Dunlendings and made a proclamation of peace, I just cannot recall anything verbatim about it. I will have to do a re-read to refresh my memory.

@Morthrandiir Ай бұрын

Just going about my day and then seeing a notification that you have posted a video… instantly lifts my day! Thankyou!

@thomasrichardson7543 Ай бұрын

You can see the significant influence of Scottish clans with kinship and inter clan conflicts between them, which mirror the Dunlendings a great deal.

@rikk319 Ай бұрын

The developers of LotRO seemed to follow this, with the Dunlendings taking on a very Scottish clans feel. In a similar vein, Aughaire and the Trev Duvardain of Angmar have an Irish feel to their culture. I mean, Aughaire is pronounced in-game as "O'hare".

@duncanramsay9262 Ай бұрын

I adore your content so much, dude.

@austinhanks7835 7 күн бұрын

The truth of studying history is the complexity of motivations. I love how Tolkien worked in these complex backstories.

@jonahex1921 Ай бұрын

Thank u much love from Uganda

@johnshort5830 Ай бұрын

Quality vid man. Always wanted to learn more about the Dunlendings but never got around to it.

@STMukr Ай бұрын

Thks Matt. Long time no see. Always pleasure. God blesss you, mate❤

@ranabirmitra Ай бұрын

@NerdoftheRings aaahh I noticed you have updated your pronunciation of Eotheod from your previous pronunciation of "Eoth-aid".. nice!!! 🍻

@Kelnx Ай бұрын

Just as a side note for the nerds, "Enedhwaith" should be pronounced as "EneTH-why-th". The digraph DH in Tolkien's works represents the voiced TH such as pronounced in words like "This" or "That". TH in Tolkien's works should be the unvoiced TH sound like in words such as "With" and "Math". The diphthong AI should be pronounced as a long "I" as in "Eye" or "Why", with perhaps a slight "ah" sound at the beginning. Written English dropped the differentiations between dh and th a long time ago but they still exist in our pronunciation and so Tolkien used them in names in his works. DH = ð (voiced dental fricative).

@karlsweeney2328 Ай бұрын

Thank you. It might be a pedantic gripe, but I, for better or worse, take it quite seriously.

@davidjameshancey681 Ай бұрын

Thank you! 🙌🏻

@Sionnach1601 Ай бұрын

That was fantastic. Thank you so much 👍👍👏👏

@emilywagner6354 Ай бұрын

LOTRO has made me much more sympathetic to the Dunlendings. And I love seeing so much LOTRO art in your videos!

@Gilmier Ай бұрын

Lotro? The paintings in Medusel show here?

@emilywagner6354 Ай бұрын

@@Gilmier Yes, and also he used an avatar for Helm that is also from LOTRO (although I think it's actually Elfhelm in the game).

@zelot113 Ай бұрын

What about when thror and the dwarves stayed in dunland after smaug? Did they become friends for a time? Maybe after the dwarves left the dunlendings took over ther settlements?

@giorgosk.3042 Ай бұрын

I would love to see a movie about War of the wraith

@stonestreamentertainment Ай бұрын

Evil doesnt always have to transform. It can also exploit. And the Dunlendings were exploited.

@richmondlandersenfells2238 Ай бұрын

Even by saruman.

@jethrojamesachivida4083 Ай бұрын

More videos about these Pre-Numemoreans please! Great video!!!

@duncanramsay9262 Ай бұрын

Can you please do a video on bree and all its history as well as its unique relationship with all the people's of middle earth book 1 chapter 9 is an excellent chapter, in my opinion.

@genghisgalahad8465 Ай бұрын

What about the crab 🦀 hinds from Dublin? (I mean, the Crebain from Dunland, upon reading the books)

@whiteknight257 Ай бұрын

" l should have never of come here!" The lore is darker and deeper than I could have ever imagined...

@miguellimzon9317 Ай бұрын

I feel pity for the Dunlendings. They always get misjudged along with the Druedain. But I prefer the Druedain more because at least they know that they're against the evils of Sauron.

@benjaminallen3371 Ай бұрын

Watching this, I think I know where a part of season three of The Rings of Power is going...

@adpirtle Ай бұрын

Given the LotR film trilogy's tendency to iron over the complexity of the source material, I am very interested in seeing how the upcoming anime handles the Dunlendings.

@valentinkambushev4968 Ай бұрын

I love Tolkien, but most of the complexity comes from the appendices and the book published by Christopher, not by Lord of the Rings itself.

@adpirtle Ай бұрын

@valentinkambushev4968 I don't think that's true at all, but maybe we're talking about different kinds of complexity

@valentinkambushev4968 Ай бұрын

@@adpirtle I was referring to the moral complexity.

@adpirtle Ай бұрын

@@valentinkambushev4968 Oh, well then we entirely disagree.

@valentinkambushev4968 Ай бұрын

@@adpirtle outside of the moment where Sam looks at the dead haradrim, there isn't really a moment when we are giving a moment to process that not all men who fight for Sauron are evil. Lord of the Rings is still a mostly black and white story. Which isn't a bad thing, mind you. If anything, spending too much time on morality would have been distracting.

@nijkasumov 21 күн бұрын

16:50 “unnecessarily particular” he says of a man who used 3 pages to describe a tree

@thedragondemands5186 Ай бұрын

Well give some land to the halflings and the easterlings…but we don’t want the Dunlendings!

@bmyrick2846 Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 great reference!!!

@thedragondemands5186 Ай бұрын

@@bmyrick2846 ?

@JohnDoe-rj9cq Ай бұрын

@@thedragondemands5186 it's a blazing saddles reference.

@princeLurking Ай бұрын

I love these

@kristenrosales2919 Ай бұрын

Dunlendings, a people one should never underestimate. Unfortunately the Numenoreans did not get the memo.

@calebmarchand2512 Ай бұрын

I've always liked the dunlamdings. They were wronged by the same people they once called friends id be pretty bitter to but idk why they always choose rohan to attack when gondor are the descendents of numinor guess its just because the rohan live in there old lands and probably more so because they are closer

@gerbenp394 Ай бұрын

I have never been this early

@Gandalfthegray123 Ай бұрын

Ik! Me too. I click my subscriptions and I’m like “19 seconds”!!!

@sirsaltymcsaltertonjr.1428 Ай бұрын

Great don't stop

@thebrowneyesofmandalore Ай бұрын

It’s so cool how Turin is closely related to the Rohirrim through Hador. It’s just makes both all the much cooler. 😎 On another matter, I find it odd that the Dunlandings would blatantly attack the Numenoreans that were “deforesting” their land, especially since they revered them to an almost godlike status and were previously on good terms. All the more so, Elves, who hold trees very dear, didn’t attack like the Dunlandings. I’m surprised there was no council or negotiating taking place. Although it might’ve been at the time when Numenor was getting sour so that’d explain the Elves inaction but not the Dunlandings. Another point is how could the Numenoreans have given so much basic needs to the Dunlandings that they might not have already had especially since they remained good and. It in the service of Morgoth through the First Age when Middle Earth was more hostile east of the Blue Mountains? I also wonder why the Dunlandings turned so easily to evil. They were clearly of right mind early on but land disputes with Rohan seems an odd reason to align themselves with the evil of Sauron and Saruman. You’d think they’d unite under a common enemy and perhaps resolving disputes diplomatically post the defeat of evil.

@antalonampreel861 Ай бұрын

The timing is crazy because I'm about to enter Dunland in LOTRO

@luudest Ай бұрын

Did the Dunledings have a capital?

@Deluxedracula 28 күн бұрын

It shows Tolkien’s neutral responsibility as a historian to include obvious references for the Celts/Irish who both became adversaries of greater forces but also write of their victimization.

@urjitdabhi Ай бұрын

Hey I have a question ❓ how much time did it take for fingolfin to corss the helcaraxe ( in solar years)

@michaelandreipalon359 Ай бұрын

Would be curious to see how War of the Rohirrim will do Freca and his kin. Also, would be curious to see if the English or Japanese iterations of the characters would be more superlative. On the plus side, at least that specific Dunlending idea of being "squint-eyed" isn't because the author was plagued by values dissonance akin to, hmm, Famous Pictures' Superman cartoons. Anyways, aren't there also black Dunlendings in some parts of the books? 19:13: Sounds like the Japanese during the brutal Pacific front of World War II, the idea that the opposition (in our case, the Allies) would be really, really ruthless so to give them no quarter. Thankfully, the Dunlendings at the very least didn't do banzais and kamikazes. Better hope Aragon's peacemaking rule will make the Dunlendings be on the side of good when "the new shadow" inevitably arrives in Middle-earth during the nadir of the Fourth Age. Either way, though, Erkenbrand's promises for the people will be broken in future generations, with or without the influence of said shadow.

@superhaven3647 Ай бұрын

Nice, The wild men.

@Gandalfthegray123 Ай бұрын

What an interesting history! Thanks for the video as always

@gerbenp394 Ай бұрын

How could you possibly know it's interesting? It was uploaded less then 3 min. Video is 20 min

@Gandalfthegray123 Ай бұрын

@ haha x50 speed? No, you caught me. I didn’t watch it yet 🤣

@valentinkambushev4968 Ай бұрын

@gerbenp394 but bits of it has been presented in previous videos.

@teleportedbreadfor3days Ай бұрын

Into the Fourth Era, my guess is that the Rohirrim and the Dunlandans not only made peace, but the two would grow, develop and prosper into becoming true kingdoms. The two realms would have a friendship so close, they would eventually merge into one great realm and become the kingdom of Britannia.

@valentinkambushev4968 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the men from the sea came again, conquering the people of Britan. They eventually went away, but in the coming centuries, the rift between the Rohirrim and the Dunlendings would reopen again, this time going by their new names of Brutish and Scottish.

@teleportedbreadfor3days Ай бұрын

@ I can also imagine some Dunlandan descents having a problem with the two kingdoms becoming one and splitting off to found their own country, what would become Scotland.

@TrainWithTom 27 күн бұрын

You referred to the people of Rohan as Rohirim. Is that correct? I could be wrong but I thought that was a term reserved for the chosen cavalry of Rohan

@donaldwatson7698 Ай бұрын

I have to believe that Tolkien would have had the Dunlendings end all hostilities with Gondor and Rohan in the days of the Reunited Kingdoms. The position of Dunland is too precarious to the middle of the twin kingdoms otherwise. Aragorn would have ended their threat once and for all had that vulnerable mid-point been threatened.. Having said that, they might have toed the line in the days of Aragorn, only to become one of the key breeding grounds of unrest in the abandoned sequel, The New Shadow.

@letsdashisthebest Ай бұрын

Hey can you put a video on how saruman became a double traitor

@andritilga2103 Ай бұрын

hello i just wanted to know what is the soundrack that you used in your dragons video.

@Clubbedcashew50 Ай бұрын

Great stuff.

@118042 Ай бұрын

15:30 - how could he be set to the task of learning about the Hobbits who leave the shire, "with the hope of finding the one ring", if they didn't know a hobbit had it until they captured Gollum? Seems like maybe you've misunderstood the timeline there a bit, as soon as Sauron gets the words Baggins and Shire from Gollum, he sends the Nazghul to retrieve it. There is no reason Sauron would suspect that the Hobbits knew anything about the existence of the ring, much less consider the possibility of them possessing it.

@android65mar Ай бұрын

Interesting that Tolkien considered environmental impacts in his fictional world

@TricksterPoi Ай бұрын

I do wonder if you already done a lore about the knights of dol amroth

@ImperialistFan Ай бұрын

🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️ as usual Nerd. Ps. Looks like someone is excited the upcoming WotR film. 10:01

@HaldorZX Ай бұрын

Am I the only one who thinks Helm was a really shitty king. He single handedly cocked up a political issue so badly he instigated a war that got himself and his sons killed along with god knows how many of his people and nearly sees his entire dynasty toppled. He was a strong warrior but boy did he suck as a king and argueably as a general.

@brianclimbs1509 Ай бұрын

Classic example of someone getting promoted until they stay in a position they suck at.

@antalonampreel861 Ай бұрын

Agreed. Don't like him.

@stephenandersen4625 Ай бұрын

He lived in an honor culture. He couldn’t be seen to have a vassal disrespect him. He demonstrated to his nobles that not towing the Royal line got you punched….. in the face…. To death Nice people don’t get to become or stay as kings

@HaldorZX Ай бұрын

@@stephenandersen4625 Never said he had to be nice but there's the smart way of being mean and there's the dumb way. He went the dumb way. Your right that a king can't allow their vassals to disrespect him but starting a blood feud with one of your strongest vassals as a "show of strength" is a throne losing move (see exhibt A above). A smart king finds ways to punish his vassals for disrespect and disobedience that doesn't involve killing them out of hand , especially when there so powerful. You might get away with that kind of power move with a weak vassal but you aren't getting away with it with one of your strongest, that just gets ypur vassals plotting to overthrow you.

@Scott-un7lc Ай бұрын

A timely video, if any one reading has not checked out the single "The Rider" by Paris Paloma I highly recomend it

@jonasvincaskatkus265 Ай бұрын

I feel like Nerd of the Rings videos are getting more frequent, and I love it.

@NerdoftheRings Ай бұрын

I always drop lore vids every Saturday. 😁 Might have some bonus ones on the way though!

@MarkLewis... Ай бұрын

YAY!!! Love the channel, but as I've expressed, I took a break from it while the disappointing RoP stuff was only on. I see about a month ago you've gone back to your regularly scheduled Tolkien-centric programing, (Lol) and I've missed some videos. Got some back catalog watching to do this weekend- YAY!!!

@banthaexplosion Ай бұрын

Okay. I guess I've never made this connection, but in the Bible men are stronger, larger, and can grow older in the old testament; but are written as we are now in the new. Did Tolkien take inspiration from that when thinking about the Men in his writings? I can't be the first person to think this.

@GameWithJosse-e2n Ай бұрын

great vid !

@eleazarelbuchon Ай бұрын

Even though Lord of the Rings Online (My favorite game) takes its liberties lore wise, I think they show this conflict between Dunland and Rohan an how Saruman use this to his advantage

@aurriusthepure7323 Ай бұрын

Music used?

@DerekLippold Ай бұрын

Kinda reminds me of the migration of the Elves

@willr8545 Ай бұрын

day: made

@littlejonathorn6860 Ай бұрын

Dunharow and Haradrim?

@Luka-hp5bk Ай бұрын

Can you make a video about gandalf never beign in the east?

@slicerneons3300 Ай бұрын

Please, may the War of the Rohirrim be good.

@gerttherude6366 Ай бұрын

well now I have another hyperfixation , and you honour every patron member. when I can afford I will on payday :)

@JOJOAMIGO09 Ай бұрын

Nerd of the rings next topic why technology doesn't advance in middle earth?😅😊

@WHJeffB Ай бұрын

I have been saying that for years! Thousands of years of "history" of Middle Earth and very little technological advancement. I remember making a comment about it to a Tolkien superfan years ago, and he basically said something to the effect of Tolkien created Middle Earth this way because of some degree of romanticism of the past (Middle Ages perhaps) and an aversion to change. Don't know for sure, but I have a tough time with the lack of tech advancement over such a long period of time. Also... The fact the the Dunlendings had to be taught how to farm by the Numenoreans doesn't really fit. You'd think that being related, though separated by centuries of advancement (the Numenoreans), that the Dunlendings wouldn't still be such a primative people/culture. I hadn't really given the Dunlendings much thought until watching this video... But after watching it, you can't help but to realize that they were heavily victimized by those seen as "superior" peoples of Middle Earth (Numenorians, then Rohirrim and Gondor). Were they really wrong in their hostility against the Numenorians for deforesting their lands? I think not, and that was the start of it all. I'm sure Tolkien drew from the long history of England, but it's also not so dissimilar to the European conquest of North America.

@Raftermann Ай бұрын

Ruslendings & Rusland 👀

@Valar-wr1ts Ай бұрын

In two towers the Dunlendings make an appearance

@Valkanna.Nublet Ай бұрын

People used to borrow all their things and never give them back. So one day they reacted by saying they were dunlending.

@gui.liraaa 12 күн бұрын

Hello... Amazing content in this channel... Trying to post in many videos to see if it can get your attention. I have two questions: 1) in the mapped videos, you use some avatars to represent the characters and people's. Who is the artist or illustrator used in this avatars? Could you please share? 😅 2) The background illustrations are all belonging to the same author or do you use different authors? Really would like to get to know more about Tolkien illustrators artists... I would suggest you to promote or share this in some way. Maybe a video going thru the many artists. I am only familiar with the most famous. Thank in advance! Keep up! 😂

@Cytl-bu3nq 20 күн бұрын

And people wonder why the Dunlendings don't like the Rohirrim, their land was taken from them and given to the rohirrim. The only way I can see that helm managed to strike and kill Freca was if Freca had his back turned, it would honestly fit with all that i've read concerning the Rohirrim.

@kalmarfanatic04 11 күн бұрын

It wasn't their land. It was Gondor's. The Dunlendings had no claim to it.

@razieldedosrios6025 7 күн бұрын

@@kalmarfanatic04Maybe a piece of paper and the oath of a dirty stone will give you the right to give away the land you didn't take care of.

@karlsweeney2328 Ай бұрын

'Dh' makes a soft 'th' sound in Elvish

@off-labelbotanist5355 Ай бұрын

#dunlanddidnothingwrong

@marioabadfernandezdelacigo8893 Ай бұрын

Your videos are AWESOME. In your last ones I've noticed you have changed the intonation when narrating, ending almost every sentence with a high pitch, which, at least to me, makes it more difficult to enjoy. I heard somewhere that many youtubers and influencers speak like that to make their content more appealing, but it causes the opposite in me. Is it intentional? Don't mean to offend, I am just curious

@michelletewhata7768 Ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤

@Fulgoneto_CT_5555 26 күн бұрын

So this is a freaking spolier

@unodos149 18 күн бұрын

Helm deserved to be sh*t on, let's be honest. He was a jerk to a guy, then the guy said something in offense, then Helm killed him. Rebellion was justified.