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Tol himling - Felix Englund
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Forest farm - Felix Englund
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Forest edge - Felix Englund
numenor's legion of armenelos - sam mckinnon
Numenorean - Matthew Stewart
Plains - Felix Englund
Orthanc - The Treason of Isengard
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The Oathtaking of Cirion and Eorl - Ted Nasmith
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Orthanc in the Second Age - Ted Nasmith
Aldor the Old drives the Dunlendings out of the Westfold - LOTRO
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Rohirrim - MellorianJ
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#lordoftherings #tolkien #dunland

[@NerdoftheRings]

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[@ToddRogers-ys9ox]

Hello nerd I have a idea what if the elves woke up in the age of the lamps

[@michaelbattin3362]

I am surprised you didn't mention the Woses. The men of Ghân-buri-Ghân from the Drúedain of Drúadan Forest I alway thought they were Dunlendings also. Please correct me if I am mistaken

[@oudugan8676]

And Lexi at GNG!!!

[@htilden42]

I always liked that Tolkien's "evil" men are never inherently evil, they often have legitimate grievances against the Men of the West that were then manipulated and transformed into millennia-long hatred by Morgoth or Sauron. It shows a level of moral complexity that people don't often associate with Tolkien's world.

[@williamtrowbridge4868]

Well said. To add to that thought, the "good" men are also complex when you look at the level of entire societies. There might be certain paragons of virtue that give their civilizations/bloodlines a good name, but their contemporaries or descendants are just as likely to be corrupted or get caught up in political squabbles as the "evil" people. If anything, the "good" part is only a rule when it comes to longevity, culture and technology, in those areas the high-peoples tend to be universally better.

[@TricksterPoi]

Agreed. It is always started with some ancient grievances that made them easy pawns for the big bad.

[@jordanfitzgerald7886]

Fun fact in earlier drafts the surviving Dunlending warriors showed up at Dunharrow after Helms Deep/Hornhurg to help the Rohirrim fight Sauron's forces at Minas Tirith. I think this should have stayed in later drafts as it helped humanize them and show that peace could be made between them and the Rohirrim.

[@HaldorZX]

I think it was right to remove it. Whilst the Dunlendings might have been willing to abide by treaty terms and help rebuild Helm's Deep I don't believe they would have marched to war alongside the Rohirrim. Saruman might have enflamed the Dunlending's hatred of Rohan in order to gain them as allies but he was building on very real long standing animosity (as shown in this video) which also existed on both sides (likely more so for the Rohirrim after the Dunlending's part in Helms Deep and prior attacks). I don't buy that both sides would have been able to let go of that enough to trust each other in battle and riding to war with an ally you don't trust is a BAD idea.

[@JaredKJames]

I think folks may be overlooking an obvious reason for the "squint eyed" description. If the man is a half orc, he would likely be sensitive to brighter light (like an orc). He may stand out because he's literally squinting all the time from rooms being too bright for him and daylight being uncomfortable.

[@Edward-nf4nc]

There is hope. Erkinbrand said "never cross the Isen with arms for war". He did not say "never cross the Isen again". This shows that he hopes for peace, and maybe trade, between the Rohirrim and the Dunlendings in the future.

[@colinbaldwin313]

I hope so. The Dunlendings' final scene in The Two Towers does a bit of a disservice to their suffering: They've had much of their land usurped by the Rohirrim, and all's well because they're so stunned and grateful for the mercy of their victimizers? I wish Aragorn had recognized their victimization as clearly as he did that of the Druedain (to whom he granted the Druadan Forest and made it a condition that none should enter it without their permission), after he became King Elessar.

[@shaggycan]

I always figured what he meant by squint eyed was that he was particularly sensitive to light, indicating he was a creature of darkness.

[@oudugan8676]

Matt, thank you. As an actual scholar myself, and a Tolkien adherent for more than 30 years: I truly appreciate your meticulous understanding of Tolkien. You and Robert at IDG are my happy places. I would be privileged if you every wanted to communicate with me.

[@rogueascendant6611]

Given that Tolkien written the Men of Middle-earth like ours. The House of Haleth, Haladin, are likewise counterparts of European groups of the Celts. Reclusive folks that lived in the woods and tend of a lifestyle of hunting and chiefdom. Numenorians at the time that betrayed the trust are likewise like the Roman legionnaires.

[@mtgemperor]

Not a bad theory, friend!

[@antalonampreel861]

Yea that seems to fit

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

It is possible that the rivalry between the primitive Dunlendings and the blond-haired, pseudo-Anglo-Saxon Rohirrim who migrated into the lands neighboring them was meant by Tolkien to be analagous to the real life conflicts that rose between the Anglo-Saxons in England and neighboring Celtic peoples.

[@logansfury]

This was a great first video watch of the day. As always an excellent job with well researched material, beautiful artwork, and quotations from Christopher Tolkien. With The Ride of the Rohirrim animation getting closer this was a perfect subject matter to ease the wait.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

One little thing that always annoyed me in the films was how the Dunlendings were depicted as a bunch of savage hillbillies, I don't think they were any less technologically or culturally advanced than the Rohirrim. I find the history of the men in middle earth during the second age to be fascinating. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the ancestors of the Dunlendings in the early second age were part of an empire ruled by the men of the white mountains who would become the oathbreakers, and it was these men that built Dunharrow. In fact, I understood that the word "Dun" specifically referred to these people, hence Dunharrow and Dunland sharing that root word. Can you verify or correct this?

[@kpaasial]

It's almost unavoidable since the inspiration for the Dunlendings was very clearly the Picts, peoples inhabiting the wild north of what became modern Scotland and not known for being civilized, at least in the eyes of the Romans from whom most of the depictions of them come from.

[@HaldorZX]

While I agree it could have been done better and am a big Dunlending fan I'm pretty sure Tolkien did suggest that they were less technologically advanced or at least were a poorer people, the Dunlendings who come to Helm's Deep are described as being fairly ill-equipped I think.

[@istari0]

The Rohirrim were allied with Gondor and had some access to the knowledge and culture of that kingdom. The Dunlendings did not. I believe the Rohirrim were more advanced and learned than the Dunlendings.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

@kpaasial That doesn't mean they needed to look so cartoonish, all dressed and acting like cracked-up homeless people. They could still have been shown to have some culture.

[@lodevijk]

To be fair, the men of Bree look similarly dishevelled

[@calorion]

You know what I would love? For you to make a visual accompaniment of a reading of LOTR, like an audiobook or Phil Dragash’s soundscape reading. You’d provide a silent video with corresponding graphics at every moment while we listened to the book in the background. That would be amazing.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

I'm assuming King Aragorn along with Gondor and Rohan made peace with the Dunlandings.

[@logansfury]

I would have to check the appendices to be certain, But I recall for certain That Aragorn made an announcement to Ghan-buri-ghan (sp?) that the Woses would retain ownership in peace of the forests they had already settled in, to be recognized by all of Gondor. I recall also that he made a law preventing Men from entering the Shire, and only met his dear friends himself at one of the border bridges. At some point during his return of Theoden's body to Rohan he very likely granted land to the Dunlendings and made a proclamation of peace, I just cannot recall anything verbatim about it. I will have to do a re-read to refresh my memory.

[@duncanramsay9262]

I adore your content so much, dude.

[@ranabirmitra]

@NerdoftheRings aaahh I noticed you have updated your pronunciation of Eotheod from your previous pronunciation of "Eoth-aid".. nice!!! 🍻

[@johnshort5830]

Quality vid man. Always wanted to learn more about the Dunlendings but never got around to it.

[@STMukr]

Thks Matt. Long time no see. Always pleasure. God blesss you, mate❤

[@Morthrandiir]

Just going about my day and then seeing a notification that you have posted a video… instantly lifts my day! Thankyou!

[@Sionnach1601]

That was fantastic. Thank you so much 👍👍👏👏

[@davidjameshancey681]

Thank you! 🙌🏻

[@Kelnx]

Just as a side note for the nerds, "Enedhwaith" should be pronounced as "EneTH-why-th". The digraph DH in Tolkien's works represents the voiced TH such as pronounced in words like "This" or "That". TH in Tolkien's works should be the unvoiced TH sound like in words such as "With" and "Math". The diphthong AI should be pronounced as a long "I" as in "Eye" or "Why", with perhaps a slight "ah" sound at the beginning. Written English dropped the differentiations between dh and th a long time ago but they still exist in our pronunciation and so Tolkien used them in names in his works. DH = ð (voiced dental fricative).

[@karlsweeney2328]

Thank you. It might be a pedantic gripe, but I, for better or worse, take it quite seriously.

[@MerryMohProductions]

0:00-0:19 Opening paragraph sounds idly similar to the Haradrim; just switch our Rohan and Saruman with Gondor and Sauron and the similarities between the Dunlendings and the people of Haradwaith in regards to their earlier relations with the numenoreans and their fall into villainy by the third age stand out a bit.

[@whiteknight257]

" l should have never of come here!" The lore is darker and deeper than I could have ever imagined...

[@jethrojamesachivida4083]

More videos about these Pre-Numemoreans please! Great video!!!

[@giorgosk.3042]

I would love to see a movie about War of the wraith

[@emilywagner6354]

LOTRO has made me much more sympathetic to the Dunlendings. And I love seeing so much LOTRO art in your videos!

[@Gilmier]

Lotro? The paintings in Medusel show here?

[@emilywagner6354]

@@Gilmier Yes, and also he used an avatar for Helm that is also from LOTRO (although I think it's actually Elfhelm in the game).

[@DerekLippold]

Kinda reminds me of the migration of the Elves

[@thomasrichardson7543]

You can see the significant influence of Scottish clans with kinship and inter clan conflicts between them, which mirror the Dunlendings a great deal.

[@rikk319]

The developers of LotRO seemed to follow this, with the Dunlendings taking on a very Scottish clans feel. In a similar vein, Aughaire and the Trev Duvardain of Angmar have an Irish feel to their culture. I mean, Aughaire is pronounced in-game as "O'hare".

[@princeLurking]

I love these

[@sirsaltymcsaltertonjr.1428]

Great don't stop

[@MarkLewis...]

YAY!!! Love the channel, but as I've expressed, I took a break from it while the disappointing RoP stuff was only on. I see about a month ago you've gone back to your regularly scheduled Tolkien-centric programing, (Lol) and I've missed some videos. Got some back catalog watching to do this weekend- YAY!!!

[@antalonampreel861]

The timing is crazy because I'm about to enter Dunland in LOTRO

[@gerbenp394]

I have never been this early

[@Gandalfthegray123]

Ik! Me too. I click my subscriptions and I’m like “19 seconds”!!!

[@duncanramsay9262]

Can you please do a video on bree and all its history as well as its unique relationship with all the people's of middle earth book 1 chapter 9 is an excellent chapter, in my opinion.

[@benjaminallen3371]

Watching this, I think I know where a part of season three of _The Rings of Power_ is going...

[@stonestreamentertainment]

Evil doesnt always have to transform. It can also exploit. And the Dunlendings were exploited.

[@richmondlandersenfells2238]

Even by saruman.

[@superhaven3647]

Nice, The wild men.

[@zelot113]

What about when thror and the dwarves stayed in dunland after smaug? Did they become friends for a time? Maybe after the dwarves left the dunlendings took over ther settlements?

[@Darth_Traitorous]

You're covering a topic what 3 weeks before the movie happens. I'm excited for that movie. I hope the rest of the people that are here are as well.

[@danielloewen2857]

I completely forgot that movie but now that it's back on my mind I'm hyped again

[@gabrielfournier2511]

yes

[@robertwolfgan]

​@@danielloewen2857 Could you PLEASE provide me with more info about what movie you're talking about??? I wanna Google the heck out of it xD

[@Sionnach1601]

What film?? Is the hunt for gollum about to be released???

[@robertwolfgan]

@@Sionnach1601 HEY! I just asked this same thing and they deleted my comment?! What the heck KZbin!!!!!! But yeah I'm also interested to know about what movie they are talking about so I can search all about it and be ready!!!

[@Clubbedcashew50]

Great stuff.

[@ImperialistFan]

🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️ as usual Nerd. Ps. Looks like someone is excited the upcoming WotR film. 10:01

[@genghisgalahad8465]

What about the crab 🦀 hinds from Dublin? (I mean, the Crebain from Dunland, upon reading the books)

[@thebrowneyesofmandalore]

It’s so cool how Turin is closely related to the Rohirrim through Hador. It’s just makes both all the much cooler. 😎 On another matter, I find it odd that the Dunlandings would blatantly attack the Numenoreans that were “deforesting” their land, especially since they revered them to an almost godlike status and were previously on good terms. All the more so, Elves, who hold trees very dear, didn’t attack like the Dunlandings. I’m surprised there was no council or negotiating taking place. Although it might’ve been at the time when Numenor was getting sour so that’d explain the Elves inaction but not the Dunlandings. Another point is how could the Numenoreans have given so much basic needs to the Dunlandings that they might not have already had especially since they remained good and. It in the service of Morgoth through the First Age when Middle Earth was more hostile east of the Blue Mountains? I also wonder why the Dunlandings turned so easily to evil. They were clearly of right mind early on but land disputes with Rohan seems an odd reason to align themselves with the evil of Sauron and Saruman. You’d think they’d unite under a common enemy and perhaps resolving disputes diplomatically post the defeat of evil.

[@letsdashisthebest]

Hey can you put a video on how saruman became a double traitor

[@Raftermann]

Ruslendings & Rusland 👀

[@Gandalfthegray123]

What an interesting history! Thanks for the video as always

[@gerbenp394]

How could you possibly know it's interesting? It was uploaded less then 3 min. Video is 20 min

[@Gandalfthegray123]

@ haha x50 speed? No, you caught me. I didn’t watch it yet 🤣

[@valentinkambushev4968]

​@gerbenp394 but bits of it has been presented in previous videos.

[@thedragondemands5186]

Well give some land to the halflings and the easterlings…but we don’t want the Dunlendings!

[@bmyrick2846]

🤣🤣🤣 great reference!!!

[@thedragondemands5186]

@@bmyrick2846 ?

[@JohnDoe-rj9cq]

@@thedragondemands5186 it's a blazing saddles reference.

[@donaldwatson7698]

I have to believe that Tolkien would have had the Dunlendings end all hostilities with Gondor and Rohan in the days of the Reunited Kingdoms. The position of Dunland is too precarious to the middle of the twin kingdoms otherwise. Aragorn would have ended their threat once and for all had that vulnerable mid-point been threatened.. Having said that, they might have toed the line in the days of Aragorn, only to become one of the key breeding grounds of unrest in the abandoned sequel, The New Shadow.

[@kristenrosales2919]

Dunlendings, a people one should never underestimate. Unfortunately the Numenoreans did not get the memo.

[@TricksterPoi]

I do wonder if you already done a lore about the knights of dol amroth

[@willr8545]

day: made

[@andritilga2103]

hello i just wanted to know what is the soundrack that you used in your dragons video.

[@calebmarchand2512]

I've always liked the dunlamdings. They were wronged by the same people they once called friends id be pretty bitter to but idk why they always choose rohan to attack when gondor are the descendents of numinor guess its just because the rohan live in there old lands and probably more so because they are closer

[@GameWithJosse-e2n]

great vid !

[@miguellimzon9317]

I feel pity for the Dunlendings. They always get misjudged along with the Druedain. But I prefer the Druedain more because at least they know that they're against the evils of Sauron.

[@luudest]

Did the Dunledings have a capital?

[@urjitdabhi]

Hey I have a question ❓ how much time did it take for fingolfin to corss the helcaraxe ( in solar years)

[@android65mar]

Interesting that Tolkien considered environmental impacts in his fictional world

[@banthaexplosion]

Okay. I guess I've never made this connection, but in the Bible men are stronger, larger, and can grow older in the old testament; but are written as we are now in the new. Did Tolkien take inspiration from that when thinking about the Men in his writings? I can't be the first person to think this.

[@Scott-un7lc]

A timely video, if any one reading has not checked out the single "The Rider" by Paris Paloma I highly recomend it

[@JOJOAMIGO09]

Nerd of the rings next topic why technology doesn't advance in middle earth?😅😊

[@WHJeffB]

I have been saying that for years! Thousands of years of "history" of Middle Earth and very little technological advancement. I remember making a comment about it to a Tolkien superfan years ago, and he basically said something to the effect of Tolkien created Middle Earth this way because of some degree of romanticism of the past (Middle Ages perhaps) and an aversion to change. Don't know for sure, but I have a tough time with the lack of tech advancement over such a long period of time. Also... The fact the the Dunlendings had to be taught how to farm by the Numenoreans doesn't really fit. You'd think that being related, though separated by centuries of advancement (the Numenoreans), that the Dunlendings wouldn't still be such a primative people/culture. I hadn't really given the Dunlendings much thought until watching this video... But after watching it, you can't help but to realize that they were heavily victimized by those seen as "superior" peoples of Middle Earth (Numenorians, then Rohirrim and Gondor). Were they really wrong in their hostility against the Numenorians for deforesting their lands? I think not, and that was the start of it all. I'm sure Tolkien drew from the long history of England, but it's also not so dissimilar to the European conquest of North America.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Would be curious to see how War of the Rohirrim will do Freca and his kin. Also, would be curious to see if the English or Japanese iterations of the characters would be more superlative. On the plus side, at least that specific Dunlending idea of being "squint-eyed" isn't because the author was plagued by values dissonance akin to, hmm, Famous Pictures' Superman cartoons. Anyways, aren't there also black Dunlendings in some parts of the books? 19:13: Sounds like the Japanese during the brutal Pacific front of World War II, the idea that the opposition (in our case, the Allies) would be really, really ruthless so to give them no quarter. Thankfully, the Dunlendings at the very least didn't do banzais and kamikazes. Better hope Aragon's peacemaking rule will make the Dunlendings be on the side of good when "the new shadow" inevitably arrives in Middle-earth during the nadir of the Fourth Age. Either way, though, Erkenbrand's promises for the people will be broken in future generations, with or without the influence of said shadow.

[@adpirtle]

Given the LotR film trilogy's tendency to iron over the complexity of the source material, I am very interested in seeing how the upcoming anime handles the Dunlendings.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

I love Tolkien, but most of the complexity comes from the appendices and the book published by Christopher, not by Lord of the Rings itself.

[@adpirtle]

@valentinkambushev4968 I don't think that's true at all, but maybe we're talking about different kinds of complexity

[@valentinkambushev4968]

@@adpirtle I was referring to the moral complexity.

[@adpirtle]

@@valentinkambushev4968 Oh, well then we entirely disagree.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

@@adpirtle outside of the moment where Sam looks at the dead haradrim, there isn't really a moment when we are giving a moment to process that not all men who fight for Sauron are evil. Lord of the Rings is still a mostly black and white story. Which isn't a bad thing, mind you. If anything, spending too much time on morality would have been distracting.

[@eleazarelbuchon]

Even though Lord of the Rings Online (My favorite game) takes its liberties lore wise, I think they show this conflict between Dunland and Rohan an how Saruman use this to his advantage

[@Valar-wr1ts]

In two towers the Dunlendings make an appearance

[@jonasvincaskatkus265]

I feel like Nerd of the Rings videos are getting more frequent, and I love it.

[@NerdoftheRings]

I always drop lore vids every Saturday. 😁 Might have some bonus ones on the way though!

[@gerttherude6366]

well now I have another hyperfixation , and you honour every patron member. when I can afford I will on payday :)

[@Luka-hp5bk]

Can you make a video about gandalf never beign in the east?

[@aurriusthepure7323]

Music used?

[@HaldorZX]

Am I the only one who thinks Helm was a really shitty king. He single handedly cocked up a political issue so badly he instigated a war that got himself and his sons killed along with god knows how many of his people and nearly sees his entire dynasty toppled. He was a strong warrior but boy did he suck as a king and argueably as a general.

[@brianclimbs1509]

Classic example of someone getting promoted until they stay in a position they suck at.

[@antalonampreel861]

Agreed. Don't like him.

[@stephenandersen4625]

He lived in an honor culture. He couldn’t be seen to have a vassal disrespect him. He demonstrated to his nobles that not towing the Royal line got you punched….. in the face…. To death Nice people don’t get to become or stay as kings

[@HaldorZX]

@@stephenandersen4625 Never said he had to be nice but there's the smart way of being mean and there's the dumb way. He went the dumb way. Your right that a king can't allow their vassals to disrespect him but starting a blood feud with one of your strongest vassals as a "show of strength" is a throne losing move (see exhibt A above). A smart king finds ways to punish his vassals for disrespect and disobedience that doesn't involve killing them out of hand , especially when there so powerful. You might get away with that kind of power move with a weak vassal but you aren't getting away with it with one of your strongest, that just gets ypur vassals plotting to overthrow you.

[@MatthewBrender-g6v]

The Welsh.

[@littlejonathorn6860]

Dunharow and Haradrim?

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

Into the Fourth Era, my guess is that the Rohirrim and the Dunlandans not only made peace, but the two would grow, develop and prosper into becoming true kingdoms. The two realms would have a friendship so close, they would eventually merge into one great realm and become the kingdom of Britannia.

[@valentinkambushev4968]

Unfortunately, the men from the sea came again, conquering the people of Britan. They eventually went away, but in the coming centuries, the rift between the Rohirrim and the Dunlendings would reopen again, this time going by their new names of Brutish and Scottish.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

@ I can also imagine some Dunlandan descents having a problem with the two kingdoms becoming one and splitting off to found their own country, what would become Scotland.

[@karlsweeney2328]

'Dh' makes a soft 'th' sound in Elvish

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

People used to borrow all their things and never give them back. So one day they reacted by saying they were dunlending.

[@118042]

15:30 - how could he be set to the task of learning about the Hobbits who leave the shire, "with the hope of finding the one ring", if they didn't know a hobbit had it until they captured Gollum? Seems like maybe you've misunderstood the timeline there a bit, as soon as Sauron gets the words Baggins and Shire from Gollum, he sends the Nazghul to retrieve it. There is no reason Sauron would suspect that the Hobbits knew anything about the existence of the ring, much less consider the possibility of them possessing it.

[@marioabadfernandezdelacigo8893]

Your videos are AWESOME. In your last ones I've noticed you have changed the intonation when narrating, ending almost every sentence with a high pitch, which, at least to me, makes it more difficult to enjoy. I heard somewhere that many youtubers and influencers speak like that to make their content more appealing, but it causes the opposite in me. Is it intentional? Don't mean to offend, I am just curious

[@slicerneons3300]

Please, may the War of the Rohirrim be good.

[@off-labelbotanist5355]

#dunlanddidnothingwrong

[@michelletewhata7768]

❤❤❤❤

[@martykitson3442]

🤠👍👍

[@AlyxGlide]

👁️GOBLIN LIKE! Tolkiens don't mask their storytelling decisions much, huh

[@RhapsodyInBlaah]

Other men than Bill are referred to as squint eyed.

[@phoule76]

bunch of Loraxes

[@athenovae]

How did the great Sarumon get such a dopey name as “Sharky”?? Lol

[@gandalf4751]

😍😍😍✅✅✅

[@nadiaddis1145]

THIS is why I HATE the wussy little actor Amazon cast as Isuldur!! He ain't tall and majestic!!

[@captainanopheles4307]

Always got a bad hand, did the Dunlendings.

[@Firenutz]

Am I actually first?

[@NerdoftheRings]

so close!

[@stephenandersen4625]

I guess it is part of the genre but the term “middle men” implies that there are lower men or untermenschen That kind of disturbs me 😳

[@boneless_chicken1]

i know this sounds crazy but hear me out y'all. What if Gandalf ........ had a car! Enough said

[@cycle_of_apparatus]

Yoooooo

[@LuciFeric137]

F #amazonfresh

[@ilcuzzo12]

Yeah, RoP is only fun if you're a masochist. I much prefer these types of videos.

[@TomOnTheTube]

Comments like this are only fun if you're still in pre-school. I much prefer comments from grown ups.

[@ilcuzzo12]

@TomOnTheTube My apologies. I dont think RoP isn't a particularly competent show. Nor do I appreciate the casting or the writing. The writing is particularly frustrating. To call it bad fan-fiction as many others have seems appropriate. The show fails to capture the spirit of Tolkein and seems to actively reject him in other ways. I really enjoy the videos that discuss the actual lore and not the TV show.

[@Gandalfthegray123]

Who else is trying to write a comment relevant to the video without actually watching it so your comment can get Likes 🤣

[@gerbenp394]

Hahaha yes, always😂

[@valentinkambushev4968]

That's why I have prepared comments for many of the subjects he hasn't covered yet.

[@ZoltánFekete-j3e]

I never get Likes. Am always too late😂😊

[@critter5248]

good thing I can just comment under this comment for the attention I crave

[@luudest]

this comment (yours) is a perfect example for that! 😂

[@valentinkambushev4968]

I have to ask: Why is Wulf so hot in the upcoming movie!? He is a Dunlending, a group of people who have a nasty habit of getting freaky with orcs!

[@pattonramming1988]

Come again 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@istari0]

I'm not sure how much of that went on and in any event, Wulf is Dunland nobility and far less likely to have had ancestors who interbred with Orcs.

[@Firenutz]

lol nope

[@richmondlandersenfells2238]

Wdym?

[@Snoopydoop]

What is that compels Shills to make content in support of complete debauchery? If not money then I'm at a complete loss for words 😐

[@NerdoftheRings]

What are you on about? Lol

[@jilata19]

The Palestinians of old times....

[@Machodork]

Nope. The Celts

[@jwentup8704]

I recently requested for this! Thanks NODR 🫶🏻