The Inevitable Downfall Of Men In Black

[@ashclaw2306]

The first one was truly iconic, the second did not feel bad and the third felt like the closure it should have had.

[@ShivaramKarthikeyan]

Plus the MIB and 21 Jump Street crossover had so much potential, and they opted for a lazy soft reboot with a trash script instead.

[@kaisarr7632]

The animated series was a better continuation of the 1st film then the movies

[@KitsuneEX-oo8pj]

I wish they got L back for the sequel, 2 would’ve been better that way

[@si2foo]

first was great second was a money grab which they were forced to make and the third was a okay we will tie it up again nicely and not fuck with it this time.

[@hamburgerhelpersalisburyst1507]

That little twist..... awkward though it was(the uniform) actually hit me pretty dam hard.

[@awashington8447]

Usually when movie studios try to "recapture the magic" of original films *AND* try to "play it safe" they fail in spectacular fashion. This is a prime example of that 😩

[@conradojavier7547]

You'd expect them to elevate the Sequel, with J & L as the New Duo, but instead They want Old Man K for the Memberberry Points.

[@Treblaine]

No sequel has EVER "recaptured the magic" look at successful sequels, they take the existing concept and make NEW magic. Terminator 2 flipped the concept of a bulletproof terminator as an assassin to a bulletproof terminator as a protector against and even greater threat.

[@christopherheckman7957]

@@Treblaine Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is another good example.

[@robertconner5927]

Aliens is an example of a sequel done right. So is Riddick, it took Pitch Black and made it fresh some how

[@zxcytdfxy256]

What are you talking about? They didn't try anything other than girl boss crap.

[@Ozzymandius1]

As a New Yorker, the original MIB movie holds a special place in my heart. They strategically placed aliens throughout New York City in a way that felt oddly natural.

[@mmorkinism]

Natural as that's where aliens usually hang out?

[@TheDisquietingNight]

@@mmorkinism natural as give 'em one look and it makes you immediately goes "of course they put that kind of alien in this location"

[@FupaDoncic]

New York is definitely a different planet

[@leeregno]

New York always suffers in movies

[@huus5682]

yaa the alien itself speaking

[@brickhouse2265]

This might be stupid but the scene in the first men in black movie where he moves the table to write on his paper has had a large influence on my life

[@exactlywhatisaid]

that scene and the entire training sequence still makes my dad legit laugh out loud. it's just damn good physical comedy

[@tawnyflower-in5yy]

Not judging but I’m curious about how?

[@S1LVAW0LF]

just because people have higher credentials than you, don’t be afraid to be different and use critical thinking instead of following the herd. the whole scene showcased that tbh. it took me multiple viewings to figure that out doe, since I was too young back in the day when I was watching this repeatedly.

[@LadyOfTheEdits]

True same lol. It was just very relatable lol

[@LadyOfTheEdits]

@@S1LVAW0LF oh my word same lol

[@ThePepelones]

One thing to note is that he first one was ad libbed a lot, making the chemistry between Jones and Smith feel very real and witty. International didn't quite have this.

[@jeremy1860]

Outside of the original classic, the animated series is easily my favourite instalment of this franchise. Jeff Kline really knows how to do great adaptations 😊

[@kaisarr7632]

Agent L was hot in that show

[@Craxin01]

It really felt like a continuation of the movie. Shame they can't seem to do that today.

[@CodyDockerty]

That intro was a banger too

[@mucktown]

@@CodyDockerty God damn, the intro had one of the best breaks in music in general. That was pure 90's Trip Hop greatness. I still play that song from time to time on parties and get always asked what this is and people can't believe that it is from the MIB Animated series. I also think that the Godzilla and Ghost Busters Animated series came from the same team. Loved the whole aesthetic

[@mocano401]

@@Craxin01 I always thought the Alpha character would make an awesome villain in a film

[@fastertrackcreative]

One of the key issues I noticed with International was Tessa's character. There seems to be a trend of interpreting equality as female lead who's super amazing and praised by everyone and everything is centred around.

[@exactlywhatisaid]

yeah the first movie established this rigorous selection process involving top class military training due to the weapon use involved, the whole training sequence, and then International was like "ok she's good at computers, and she has an interest in aliens? ok you're hired!"

[@YukitoOnline]

Woke culture in a nutshell

[@potatopatato1565]

the "strong independent woman" Gimmick strikes again

[@JoeChillton]

The Mary Sue disease....Yep. Flat and center.

[@JackahoonaLaGuna]

Feminism at its best

[@andrewelder2739]

I REALLY liked MIB3! I thought they delivered on the character dynamic, the most important element, and the Young K concept and execution were GREAT!

[@christopherheckman7957]

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree with Nerdstalgic.

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

@@christopherheckman7957 HAHAHA LETS AGREE TO DISAGREE *throws spikes

[@noobmasterruben5167]

Top Gun Maverick, MIB 3, Bad boys 3 and Ghostbusters afterlife are my favorite sequels that came out years after the original

[@Masternoob_69]

​@@I-speak-U-shut-it his name is just Christopher

[@KevinHernandez-hy1qb]

Rs it was so fire, the fact the ending implies K has been watching over J makes so much sense as J seems to be ai comfortable with aliens and even K like if he already knew abt all of it

[@HMF47]

Hollywood has been taking all the wrong lessons from Chris Hemsworth as Thor, and MIB International may be the biggest example of that. He's a talented actor and deserves a more diverse career than just standard blockbuster fare.

[@matthewmccoy7437]

agreed, it’s unfortunate that he has been getting nothing but “comedic relief dumb guy” roles for the last few years.

[@redx9656]

@@matthewmccoy7437 what!? 😂 that’s hensworth fault and how he markets himself he told the marvel studios if they didn’t make Thor funny and comedic that he was done playing the character and now that people are not liking the comedic side of Thor anymore he wants to revert back to him being serious maybe Chris should take himself serious and then he’ll get serious more mature roles 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@avatar5023]

Did international have anything to do with the original films?

[@John_C_J]

@@matthewmccoy7437 Literally the description of his character in Ghostbusters (2016)

[@_holy__ghost]

@@redx9656 im gonna need a source for where the hell hemsworth said that

[@archive6094]

Fun Fact: In the first Men in Black, the crew blew up a 25-gallon drum of blue goo for the scene in the beginning of the movie

[@Carloszavalalol]

This lead to the films' working title to be named "Blue Harvest".

[@tmclaug90]

@@Carloszavalalol wasn't blue harvest from star wars?

[@unclefungus7395]

so thaats why it looks so good in 4k

[@RockyLaRosa]

​@@unclefungus7395 when you realize even bettrr resolution exist When you watch in 4k an video of comparing to hd than you have to watch it on an different hd screen to to see the difference i now the internet lies

[@VideoGameAutopsy]

Men in Black 1 is amazing, and still holds up to this day. It’s an amazing blend of sci fi, action, with great characters and a tightly written story. And it was pretty funny. Men In Black 2, much like “Thor, Love and Thunder, focused too much on comedy, and side stepped everything that made the previous installment so great. Men In Black 3 was truly a return to form, and the proper sendoff that the series needed. It has everything that made the first one so great, and they went above and beyond to delivery one hell of a finale.

[@Oldschool1943]

actually it's more like: Men in Black 1 was somewhat true to the comic book that it's based on that told a great story still holds up to this day. It’s an amazing blend of sci fi, action, with great characters and a tightly written. Men In Black 2 is the Thor, Love and Thunder, except its a very short film focused too much on comedy, and side stepped everything that made the previous installment so great. Men In Black 3 was a time traveling movie it's the thor ragnarok/bad boys 3, the movie forget what made the first one good and too many side characters that u don't care about and a convoluted plot and a garbage finale.

[@pashauzan]

@@Oldschool1943 nah mib3 is the goat

[@Cakemarvelous]

​@@pashauzanI always felt like MIB3's message of "telling the truth" was the opposite of the first one, "lying to the entire world is better than have massive panic"

[@TheBlueboy7777]

Oh please, mib 2 is even greater than thor3😅! And equally or probably greater than mib1~

[@dimensionzone8048]

​@@Oldschool1943the finale wasn't remotely garbage. How ?? And bad boys 3 was good though but that's my opinion. Also thor Ragnarok finale was awesome. It made thor badass again and unique.

[@wereallmadhere88]

I'll be honest I enjoy MIB 1-3 all equally. There's just so much nostalgia for me behind the trilogy. Sure its not perfect all the way through, but I thoroughly enjoy watching the trilogy of films. MIB International definitely failed for me, but I'll always enjoy the first three films no matter what

[@ramadhanisme7]

Yeah, same here

[@sidnew2739]

It is no "trilogy". It is a movie with two sequels.

[@killert41]

@@sidnew2739 Shut up

[@AnjelCaido69]

​@@sidnew2739 way to be a contrarian lol

[@a.x.x8184]

@@sidnew2739 that’s a trilogy 💀

[@biguy617]

The main downfall is when they got rid of L. I liked the character and she was bad ass in the MIB animated series. That is my opinion.

[@Zimmy_1981]

This is more fact lol

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

The actor who played her was supposedly a huge pain in the ass to work with according to the people who worked on set

[@Gundam04]

If that's the case then they should have recasted her ​@@MASTEROFEVIL

[@BenjiDarius]

@@MASTEROFEVILthat was a lie, the same director that started the rumor apologized for it later on

[@kardnails8729]

L was hardly in the movies for her removal to be considered the "main downfall" of the franchise, let's be real.

[@doorbox788]

hollywood’s obsession with CGI is like gaming obsession with open world 3D games. Sure when done well it’s awesome, but when done poorly (which let’s be honest it usually is) it literally ruins what otherwise would’ve been a pretty decent piece of media

[@TheBlueboy7777]

Because it aims for cgi fans! Ya know those genz😅

[@Blade-hf9po]

MIB 3 worked for me because of the twist near the end. There were hints to it throughout the film, but that twist, they nailed it beautifully.

[@RomaroBrandon]

In hindsight Kay retiring should have been saved for MiB 3, after the opening credits Kay decides he wants to have a normal life but before he can, he's notified that Boris the Animal has escaped. The rest of the movie plays out the same and in the end Jay has a quick talk with Kay before giving a speech about what an amazing guy he is and then before getting neuralized, tips a waiter so a meteor doesn't hit Earth.

[@bahumatneo]

As soon the the girl said it should be called “people in black” I knew I would never watch the last one.

[@shanel4294]

Eeeek, even if there are women I feel like calling them “the men in black” adds to their unknown presence but also the threat level. The imager of a bunch of men all dressed in black coming for you is a lot scarier than a bunch of people 😂

[@rockofloveusa]

Agree with you . People in black two different from the first story.

[@CheezYtEdition]

Did they say that in international?

[@bahumatneo]

@@CheezYtEdition on the red carpet. It’s on KZbin.

[@Frostmourne86]

I think the biggest issue of the fourth film was that they tacked on "International" - like you didn't see, when Zed is talking with some agents you can see that they're all over the world, or during the reveal that many famous people are aliens they also show that they don't live in New York City - the organization is already international.

[@redacted2275]

You pretty much explained the downfall of 99% of entertainment quality from the late 90s to recent years using MIB as an example. Very cool.

[@randomguyontheinternet7940]

In all honesty I think Men In Black 3 is my favorite. Not just saying it to feel different I just feel like its the perfect finale that was able to reach notes the previous ones hadn't reached yet. I love how it goes further into the character's history, it does an amazing job at wrapping everything up while continuing to enrichen the story.

[@Locadel2003]

After I watched Men In black international, I came back to truly like Men in Black 2😂

[@jeremiahhester6408]

This is a definition of a rollercoaster franchise: 1st up, 2nd, down, 3rd up, international dooown.

[@jinpei05]

The first Men in Black is lightning in a bottle.

[@deemen7132]

Like the Hangover

[@jogymogy3691]

Like PotC

[@averyeml]

I agree that the sequels feel like they’re trying to mimic the originality of the first and that it REALLY didn’t work for International, but 2 and 3 are actually solid. 2 is right up there with the first just about, though it is annoying they had to retcon so much to try and mimic it. 3 had no right to be as good as it was given the time stretch and cash grab vibes. They managed to give it more emotional depth and heart than I actually think they achieved with J’s broken heart in the 2nd. Putting them in the same “bad sequel” bucket along with International is unfair, I feel.

[@BrendanPappas]

I never really felt the first two MIB sequels were that bad. They definitely paled in comparison to the first one, but they were enjoyable enough in their own right. I didn’t really trust the fourth movie from the start, though. It had been too long since the last movie and introducing a new cast felt like writing on the wall for a potential disaster.

[@evenhartwick4422]

i honestly wish that 21 Jump street/MIB movie happened. its such a wacky idea for a crossover i think even if it was bad it would have been more memorable than International which is just the epitome of a bland forgettable movie. at the time Jump Street was super popular i think it really could have helped bring in new fans to the MIB franchise

[@EbonyVengeance]

That scene in the first MIB when everyone is in that room taking the questionnaire on clip boards and J, SLIIIIIIDES that table over 😂😂 thats tough to replicate forsure

[@ogto]

Vincent D'Onofrio is a treasure, he's great in almost everything

[@VoiceNerd]

I got to be honest I spent the entire weekend watching your videos and today was the day I decided to find the subscribe. After watching this video I made the red solution. Awesome work man.

[@TeissonH]

Thank you for mentioning the cartoon TV series! It did many things right and it frustrates me that most MIB youtube videos doesn't even mention it. When we discuss vovies it's always "the script and the plot are what matters the most", but when it come to MIB Animated Series, it's suddenly "just a cartoon" without even considering its writing.

[@Woozlewuzzleable]

To me none of them will ever be even half as good as the first one. The first one was just so original and none of the other ones really brought anything new and exiting.

[@ericvulgate]

The cartoon was worthwhile.

[@Woozlewuzzleable]

@@ericvulgate I bet, never saw it. Probably like how I liked the Ghostbusters cartoon more than the sequels.

[@TaylorWestOfEverything]

I adore the men in black series, MIB 3 is my favorite of the original trilogy. I saw the potential for a great story in men in black international, but they didn't do a good enough job sowing the seeds to warrant the emotional ending it was going for. Hemsworth having been neuralized was a great idea, and they kind of hinted at it but not enough for it to have been as strong of a payoff as it had the potential to be.

[@ItsJustMe0585]

I swear the 90's was a golden age for movies. It's like we had unique and fun ideas and were less politically divided than ever, which lead to movies just being about the human element and fun, rather than political messaging and rehashes.

[@terminator572]

Its when the wackiness of the 60s met the 80s technical prowess, the 90s truly were lightning in a bottle.

[@5keeper7ful]

Don’t forget the ride at Universal Orlando. Still going and very popular. As much as Revenge of the Mummy.

[@ligeringspirit1133]

1 to 3 is fun but international is just dumpster fire

[@PKGangsta18]

Part 1 and 3 all day (especially Josh Brolin's Agent K. He was amazing lol. He nailed Tommy Lee Jones mannerism). Part 2 was ok. ...we don't talk about International

[@timmholl9238]

Are you a part of my family? Because this is us.

[@raxxie]

MIIIB made me more emotional than it had any business doing lol. But the original was everything when I was a kid! That's where my interest in sci-fi started, from what I can remember.

[@lillordakira9752]

2:30 Speaking of FXs, Notice in this scene that the rock that Agent J threw at the bug suddenly disappears after hitting the ground.

[@konroh2]

Nice catch. How did you notice that?

[@RomaroBrandon]

You know what they should have done for MiB 2? Not retcon the ending! K should have only gotten part of his memory back from watching the episode about the Light of Zartha and slowly being to remember who Laura was. Also I think it would have been funnier if he stayed neutral during the entire film and was acting like Jay in the first movie. Agent L also should be in this movie as J's partner. The scene with Agent T and Jeff could've been part of MiB field that he failed, and Serleena shouldn't show her face until the climax.

[@sasamichan]

Some of my issues with MIB 1. They thought they needed Tommy Lee Jones in order to have a sequel 2. they tried to juggle a cartoon series and movie series at the same time 3. they put too much time between sequels 4. They let Will Smith go off script and just riff and improvise too much

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

Well. MIB2 IS a Will Smith movie and it's a comedy.

[@chattaboxxx2332]

1 and 4 are some of the best parts of the trilogy lol.

[@sasamichan]

@@chattaboxxx2332 I liked it in one and parts of two but in 3 not as much.

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

@@chattaboxxx2332 4? I haven't seen it, can you please elaborate.

[@fitsumayalew9819]

@@beauxr.benoit1374 I think he meant the points written in 1 and 4

[@Squicx]

I still wish we got that MIB x 21 Jump Street crossover. Since 21 Jump Street was a revival of the 1980s 21 Jump Street series, it woulda made viewers go back and realise, "holy crap, there are aliens in this series, plus Agent K and J just off screen somewhere?!" Of course J wasn't recruited yet but if it's all connected it woulda meant that this entire time (for example, the pilot episode of 21 Jump Street 1980s) the events in M.I.B 3 with the moon landing already happened with Boris the Animal. Kinda crazy but it woulda been so cool

[@maheshsai4610]

I was today years old when I found out the original sequels bombed/under performed 😭😭 I seriously loved all these three movies as a kid and thought the sequels were blockbusters too

[@lisamedla]

There is one he said bombed internationally. It probably did well locally. So that would be you and several other people

[@sidnew2739]

Today years old?

[@nicolasrestrepo9041]

M.I.B II and III retconn so much of the first movie that I swear someone could come up with a theory that all three movies are parallel dimensions or different timelines and it wouldn't even sound that crazy.

[@jogymogy3691]

I would like to think about that way. Even tone wise, these movies don't build a good trilogy

[@friendlyneighborhoodgavin]

I think novelty was one of the biggest strengths of the first movie and the core of the intrigue of Men In Black. The minute they tried to sell Will Smith’s character as suddenly a seasoned vet, it lost its biggest strength. The rabbit hole should’ve gotten deeper and we should’ve been allowed the experience of discovering even deeper weirdness with Agent J instead of just covering the same ground each time with him being pro. It’s like if the after the first Harry Potter, Harry was suddenly a fully developed master wizard in the sequels. The whole point is discovery and growth and Agent J didn’t have anywhere else to go when MIB2 started. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Larry]

Sony really wanted "Ghostbusters with Aliens" with MIB (not counting Evolution), though the MIB comics they spent more time fighting demons, (which was then taken by RIPD)

[@Straf3Nyon]

When I think of men in black I always think of men in black 2. Loved it as a kid and the third was also iconic for me

[@PincheBeto_Bass]

Men in black 2 was released when I was 8 years old and I loved it. It had silly scenes that I remember were hilarious! Obviously now as an adult they’re super cheesy but it’s supposed to be silly

[@jdrvargo287]

While it pales next to 1, MIB 2 definitely has some good jokes and moments in it. I was about 9 or 10 when it came out and really enjoyed seeing it at the drive-in. And Lara Flynn-Boyle in lingerie definitely jumpstarted puberty for me. Even if the scene was kinda traumatizing for young me as well.

[@MrBucketlist]

Wow. I saw this movie in theaters and have watched it many times. I've never known the kingpin was also Edgar.

[@emanuelespinoza9325]

The weird thing about this is that I have been on a kick involving collecting movie tie-in novelizations and I had ordered the novels of the first two films and two additional stories. So, in a way I got back into Men in Black. I remember seeing the fourth film in theaters and I didn't mind it. Of course, I wonder if I should give it another watch to see where I stand with it. I know some people speak negatively about the second film, and that movie was really short. Not sure if it holds up, but I might give it another watch. I remember liking the first and third films.

[@Treblaine]

One thing Hollywood needs to learn is just because a film builds a unique world doesn't mean it needs a sequel. Especially if you've already told the most interesting story in that world in the first film. The animated series is a far more worthy sequel because it took the world make in the original and flipped it upside down, importantly it didn't try to tell an interesting feature length story as the most interesting feature length story had already been told.

[@murderman8578]

Flipping the world upside down?

[@Treblaine]

@@murderman8578 I mean they invert the order of things, all the pieces of the world are established but are working in a different opposing way. We're not just seeing the same elements of the world work the same way. Terminator 3 is just a rehash of Terminator 2, same elements doing the same thing. It didn't change everything around like Terminator 2 did for The Terminator. It hardly iterated.

[@thewat668]

I liked MIB 3 better than the previous two I grew up with, and managed to carefully tow the line between comedy and drama

[@thewatsonian8111]

Tessa Thompson’s character was everything that was wrong with MIB:I, but I’ve never found her convincing in any of her films.

[@AJ-xc4qe]

Speaking of Men In Black, I had a realization last month that there are multiple second movie installments that came out in 2002, 20 years ago! Blade 2, Cinderella 2, Men In Black 2, Harry Potter 2, The Santa Clause 2, Star Wars Episode 2, Spy Kids 2, The Lord of the Rings 2, Stuart Little 2, Black Mask 2, The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2 and Peter Pan 2. So far, I have no interest in watching Cinderella 2 or Hunchback 2 as I've seen reviews of them and I haven't watched either of the Black Mask movies or the Blade trilogy or The Lord of the Rings trilogy. I have The Fellowship of the Ring on DVD but I haven't gotten around to watching it. And it hasn't stopped me from finding reviews for my 2002 sequel playlist. Have you seen either of them?

[@tritonlockjaw284]

Watch Lord of the Rings. For your own sake, you’ll thank me later

[@kenzieuchiha1191]

Blade is alright, Lord of the Rings is a must watch however so please give it a chance some day!

[@CrazyHLady]

Cinderella2 is not that great😑

[@KravenErgeist]

I never actually paused the movie to look at the list of celebrities that MIB indicates as being aliens in disguise before (2:10 in the KZbin video), so I was doubled over with laughter when I saw George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Sylvester Stallone and Newt Gringrich on the list. XD

[@kabronex9877]

Thats the first time I ever hearf anybody describe Tessa Thompson as a decent actor

[@sitcomchristian6886]

😂😂 completely agree, the only thing she does well is smugness. And that's no compliment.

[@SoCoolScience]

I can sum up all the MIB movies in 1 word: MIB - Transcendence MIIB - Renovation MIIIB - Essential International - Atrocity

[@OnyxLee]

My best memories since moving to New York, are when I recognized some places from the mib. It made this city magical. Most local New Yorkers don't even know what the Mib HQ is there for.

[@SungChiWoo]

Everyone hates on Will Smith, but he's a hell of an actor. No one can pull MIB off like he did

[@darlenelang3681]

I do not hate Will Smith. I do not like the idiot he hit. He (the idiot ) makes his stand up by cutting others down. Had I been there I would have slapped him too. I love will Smith. And guess what I am not black😊

[@max_kirchi_fca]

Similar to Idiana Jones, I did like the first film, the second was okay, but it wasn't until the third that I really loved it (while the 4th can be completely forgotten) MIB 3 was an absolute character film with an exciting storyline, which was a lot of fun Therefore I would not really go along with the thesis

[@michaelbodine6142]

as a man who ripped. roaches,,,apart,,and hates potato insects, you should never VISIT the wrong zoo at 4:31.

[@MarkTyger]

Men in Black and Ghostbusters have very similar trajectories as franchises. They both had monumental and iconic first films, beloved to this day, for worldbuilding, characters and story. They both had drastically diminishing returns on their sequels. They also both had major tentpole sequels that fundamentally misunderstood the magic of their original. But there's another parallel. Both Men in Black and Ghostbusters had their best continuing stories and worldbulding happen in their Saturday morning Animated series adaptations. And, most fans of both franchises are unaware of how good those animated series were.

[@juliandacosta6841]

As I said before, Ghostbusters has 2 decent sequels to MIB's zero

[@murderman8578]

How is the Ghostbusters cartoon

[@MarkTyger]

@@murderman8578 It was made under he name "The Real Ghostbusters" because of a bit of shady legal business with Filmation and their own Ghost Busters IP. But the real Ghostbusters cartoon was pretty neat back in the day, I thought (for 1986). J Michael Strazynski of Babylon 5 fame was the story editor on the series, so it had surprisingly dense world building for a saturday morning cartoon. It had a weird design sense for the ghosts, but it had an amazing soundtrack and wasn't afraid to get scary and creepy. They even developed their own mythology of ghosts with characters like Samhain the spirit of Halloween, the Sandman, who wanted dreams to take over the waking world, and a Boogieman who was the reason Egon Spengler studies ghosts in the first place. Top notch voice talent too. Animation was very solid (DIC I think), although the second season was made by a different company for a full 65 ep syndication package and it has some audio issues. I have fond memories of the Real Ghostbusters cartoon. Might not hold up to todays standards, but it was pretty strong work at the time.

[@danielhance1467]

The guy who directed MIB also directed the Adam’s family and Adams family values. Those are two of my favorite 90s movies and absolutely crushed the first MIB. I really wish Hollywood would stop making unnecessary sequels to movies that are already perfect.

[@_MC529]

I urge absolutely everybody to show me a single acting performance of Tessa Thompson that isn't annoying af😭😭😭

[@mandalorianhunter1]

I think she isn't annoying in Creed and is actually great

[@robertosolano7774]

I liked her in Veronica Mars

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

@@mandalorianhunter1 I agree about that comment on her on Creed. But goddamn if she wasn't annoying in MIB International and the Thor movies

[@chattaboxxx2332]

I actually liked her in Thor Ragnarok, don't get me wrong she was still annoying asf but that was a big part of the character, I honestly wouldn't expect anything less than painful from an alcohol abusing overconfident bounty hunter who lost her people and dealt with it in an unhealthy way, which I guess is the point, she NEEDS shitty characters to play, where it makes sense for the character to be a POS for her acting to work, because she doesn't have any range, all she can properly play is herself, which is annoying, stuck up, arrogant, and full of clearly underlying issues that haven't been dealt with, and when she is in that role, she does great, but short of that no f*cking way.

[@ccptube3468]

That Fool is Unwatchable!

[@TheBmichel51122]

Idk what my journey will be but, this is the first video I’ve ever watched from this channel (never heard of it until 10 minutes ago), and let me just say you have earned a subscriber! The editing, the music, the steady narration, the clear expository analyses, I loved every second of it. One of my favorite movies being discussed was the cherry on top. Keep doing what you’re doing guys, can’t wait to see more!! 🌟

[@darko-man8549]

I love watching all three films of the trilogy

[@spacecadet35]

The trouble with Men In Black; international is that they had no idea of what the subject material was about, but they knew the political narrative that they wanted to spread.

[@randomsleepyness]

In my head, the first one is the only "men in black", the follow-ups were "men in grey" imitations.

[@HighPlainsDrifter53]

I like the part at the end of the second one when he gets stuck in the hoses and almost misses the countdown. Cracks me up everytime

[@themysteriousspeeddemon]

My take on the Men In Black franchise, much like Ghostbusters. They somehow tend to rehash what came before ala storybeats or returning villain with GB Afterlife. Ghostbusters The video game was the best sequel out of the quadrilogy because they're expanding on lore that was briefly mentioned in the first movie, while they also introduced new tech to combat entities that are immune to the proton packs which I really like. The one gripe I have with the game's story was when Peter was hitting on Ilyssa, I dunno, much like the whole Louis and Janine thing. It just feels wrong to me. This was taking place in 91, and we weren't given much explanation on why this was the case within the story. Speaking of relationships, another small thing I hate in both GB, MIB 2 and a couple of sequels I know is, when relationships between characters either reset like Peter and Dana, or get nixed altogether ala J x L, and Egon x Janine without any good explanation, or even reason within the story.

[@MarcelLWalker]

Comparing those two franchises is very intriguing, and I see your points on a lot of it. GHOSTBUSTERS and MEN IN BLACK both started out incredibly strong with high-concept premises, were popular with audiences, had animated series that expanded on their worlds, and were even set in New York City! But neither one had sequels that ever quite recaptured their respective magic, whether the original stars were involved or not. (Oh, and Chris Hemsworth has now been involved with both franchises!) Thank you for the insights! PS: I likewise agree with you in being annoyed when franchises (in)conveniently disregard established characters and/or relationships. Keeping fans satisfied and treating us like we remember plot points and care isn't that hard!

[@juliandacosta6841]

2 Ghostbusters sequels were good (not great) though that's 2 more than Mib has

[@themysteriousspeeddemon]

Marcel Walker Don't forget the fact that they both are owned by Sony Pictures. I don't mind the A plots on these sequels. It's the B plots that can either make or slightly put a dent on the overall presentation. P.S. MIB 2 was average aside from the arbitrary switch from the first film MIB 3 was a decent watch. MIB animated: I thought it was pretty cool and has its hilarious moments. I haven’t seen MIB international. I thought GB 2 was alright for what it is, but still, there are plenty of things left to be desired, to say the least. GB Video Game is the best one out of the 3 sequels. GB Afterlife, I really liked it at first, but as time moved on, I thought it was alright. bringing back Gozer felt a bit tiresome. I honestly wish it was either one of the villains from The RGB's brought to the screen like The Boogie Man, Samhain, Cthulu, The Grundel, or probably even Prodius or just a new villain from Ivo Shandor's lineage at least. The RGB's was great until J. Michael Straczynski was nixed off the show. I didn't watch much of Extreme Ghostbusters.

[@kingovharts]

Not only that but they literally changed Janine character. The Louis thing felt a bit weird but he was hanging out at the firehouse more as their lawyer.

[@dwaipayansinha]

I really wished they kept Agent L from the first movie in the sequels, the cartoons with her and the lightly romantic chemistry between J and L were perfect.

[@patrickiamonfire965]

I really loved the Men in Black 3 the most. No forgotten Princess would be would be not romance subplot.

[@elwoodjacobs4353]

There's actually a one-shot comic that released a year or so after the first movie that acts as a sequel & is far superior to MiB 2. It's called "MiB: Retribution".

[@dondinero718]

The MiB soundtrack was 🔥

[@MultitaskingGuy]

My favorite rumor about mib that I heard was they were going to have jump Street 3 be a crossover between the two and then Jonah and Tatum would take ove Mib

[@DeadHawk23]

Aww that animated series was SO fucking cool to watch when I was a kid

[@Rowglow]

MIB 2 was the first out of the franchise I saw as a kid so it has a special place in my heart. I love it after all these years and I honestly couldn’t fathom that people hated it 😂

[@stanleyshady9465]

MIB 3 was the last movie me and my best friend saw in a theater a week before his suicide.. so i think my opinions would be biased, but that movie was a great way to emotionally end the story of them tying it to the the first movie.. coming full circle

[@z0ee996]

Should’ve ended at the 3rd one..

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

Just like Fast n Furious movies should've ended after the movie where the cgi Paul Walker drove off into the sunset

[@jawadiahmad7180]

The first time I watched MIB 3, I thought josh brolin is just a guy facial captures with Tommy Lee Jones young A.I generated face and voice. That's how good it was.

[@therealseanw.stewart2071]

Men in Black is one of my first beloved childhood films. It's an absolute classic, and proved to have captured lightning in a bottle in the long run.

[@jonnnnniej]

Key & Peele have messed up the saying lightning in a bottle for me forever :')

[@Scarecrooo]

MIB is a classic like Jurassic Park and Matrix...masterpiece all of them, but they want to squeeze out more money with a half assed story :/

[@mr.randomguys7629]

Men in Black III was fantastic!

[@boytextures]

does anyone know what the background song is from 6:00?

[@Chumbucketsecret]

Why is nobody talking about the animated series? It was so damn good.

[@TactileTherapy]

How to do a sequel: Either subvert the audiences expectation T2 style. Or enhance the foundation already built Dark Knight style

[@firstnamelastname6202]

Idk if it would have actually worked or made the movie better, but I think Chris Hemsworth should have been a twist villain in MIB: International. Throughout the movie, there are several throwaway lines saying he's changed (I'm guessing since his and Liam Neeson's original fight with the hive mind alien), which end up leading to nothing, because it's Liam Neeson's character that is the bad guy. Idk whether maybe the lines were meant to suggest PTSD or something, but they never really get resolved. I think both Chris and Liam could have been the villains, like at first it's revealed to Liam and then when they're confronting him, Chris reveals himself too. Like I say idk if it would have worked, but I think it would have been cool to see Chris Hemsworth as a villain (hopefully aore compelling one than in Ghostbusters anyway lol)

[@TheHEROFamily]

International felt like a cheap money grab by using an established IP rather than a deep and meaningful movie. I wouldn't doubt that the studio had to push a movie out or lose the rights to it completely.

[@ItzGoose]

Mib 3 is really good tbh just as good as the first one

[@ManinTidyWhities]

The 2 main characters of MIBI are the kind of characters that would deceive everyone by claiming they're MIB, and then later their memories get wiped and disregarded by real MIB agents

[@bobs3060]

Men In Black would do really well as a streaming show honestly.

[@TheElectricMayhem]

A lot of great world building and lore to work with.

[@kingovharts]

That’s a great idea. Especially the stuff they can do on a smaller budget now.

[@XxLIVRAxX]

I buy that idea

[@arturocastroverde3349]

Not in this modern world when everything is woke trash

[@CrownRock1]

"One of the most beloved sci-fi comedies of the 1990's." With such a vague ranking in such a specific category, no one could possibly argue.

[@DeltaAssaultGaming]

Tessa Thompson was so miscast as Valkyrie

[@technobladeleakedclips1827]

She is a woke pos who should be blacklisted from hollywood

[@daverapp]

Prior to MIB 1, I don't think anyone knew what "giant cockroach pretending to be a human and doing a bad job" would look like, but damn did Vince show us what it would look like. Dude should've won an Oscar.

[@GarthDeBrunoAustin]

Men in black 3 was incredible

[@Hakiimthedream]

1 and 2 are absolute classics, u wrong

[@kaylahensley1581]

I actually liked MIB International.

[@landryn.1485]

The simple answer was putting a woman as a lead character which is completely unecessary! Same thing as Ghost Busters! The concept of equality doesn’t mean remake certain movies to replace lead characters with females

[@josefagomezschmeisser8356]

I really wanted to like the MIB international since I liked that we will follow new agents and Chris and Tessa are great but the script didn’t let them exploit their comedic side, specially Chris character, and Tessa’s character kinda fell into the “powerful woman” like capitan marvel and Mulan 2020 archetype like she was new but superior in every way to her incompetent male work partner, like putting men down to lift women when in reality isn’t inspiring at all not seeing those characters struggle to get better and train and all of that, they are just better than men cuz they a strong action woman trademark >:[

[@ThaFashionAssassin]

You couldn’t do the opening scene of the original Men in Black nowadays

[@pablocasas5906]

I loved the original MIB and I have fond memories of the animated series, MIB 2 was a disappointment, though it has a few good jokes. The third one is kind of weird, I wouldn't call it a great movie but I find it better than the second one (not to mention that it's one of the few movies where I think the dub actually makes it funnier). International was totally forgettable, Hemsworth and Thompson have great chemistry but I don't remember any single joke

[@SkipSpotter]

It's refreshing to get someone else's insight and opinions into these franchises, especially when they know what they're actively discussing. Thumbs up from me! 😀

[@garrettstephens8168]

I just feel like the reboot was too rooted in careful politics and they weren’t willing to take risks. The movie was a bust.

[@jordanloux3883]

Which is funny, considering the first movie begins with a truckful of illegal aliens being allowed into the united states because Human politics are small potatoes compared to dealing with alien life on earth

[@juliandacosta6841]

@@jordanloux3883 if i had to choose between a truck full of people rotting in jail, or illegal entrance to a country, it's not going to be a hard decision