How MARVEL Drama Created The Teen Titans

[@archer1949]

After reading “Marvel: The Untold Story” a few years back, I have been hankering to see a Mad Men-style TV drama about Marvel set in the sixties and seventies.

[@robinthestate6548]

Yeah it would ruin a lot of people's perception of Stan Lee which would be kind of bad since he is now dead.

[@blakeadamson1576]

I'd pay money to see that.

[@EggsyTheVideographer]

Can we get this

[@Conner3030]

you would need to do it like The Crown season one would be the Classic Bullpen years With Stan Lee Jack Kirby Steve Ditko Larry Libber and Wally Wood then season 2 jumps to the cluster that the video covers leading to Shooter.

[@d-logan5280]

@@jamesearlcash7725 Oftentimes, yes. Truth doesn't mean nice or good. I think there was a poem about it ... or maybe that was just The Simpsons?

[@egonnn244]

"Comic book nerds tend to be resistant to change of any kind" - truer words were never spoken. And a great video, I should add. The edits, the production, the script, I didn't even notice it's almost 18 minutes. Awesome work.

[@Venusius]

egon244 it’s not just comic book nerds but any following of an original content stories of books, plays, etc.

[@marih_2017]

Exactly they get on my nerves alot like theyre Adhd mentally challenged impaired

[@dalarpguy]

Stan Lee was a complicated man. He knew he would be made fun of for the rest of eternity, and he only wanted in on it. I love the man’s legacy, but he did a lot to be mad about or make fun of. It’s okay. I would love to see a video on your thoughts and feelings on Stan.

[@sapphic_sophie]

Hearing James and Maso show up was fun. It’s always great to see creators you love working together :)

[@MakeSomething]

Guess who drew your name in the Patreon gift exchange​? Keep an eye out for a package! Great channel man!

[@NerdSyncProductions]

Thanks so much! I got it in the other day, and it looks incredible!

[@thatoneguy24530]

Was not expecting Mr Sunday Movies but I'm pleasantly surprised! ooh, and Maso! _"That was great Mason!"_ "I'm Jim Shooter!" (13:15) "That's the one Scott, that's the take." (14:39)

[@shaynebutler2443]

And Claire, Jimmy's wife... I think.

[@hidude1520]

At least you give us a warning and Stan Lee would be probably laughing at the jokes

[@adamnaameeazim6365]

When there's trouble you know who to call... MARV WOLFMAN!

[@shingshongshamalama]

Who you gonna call?

[@zainmudassir2964]

@Xenogamer Senpai Ghostbusters 2016

[@maxhalle-podell6635]

This channel is truly so special. Your love of comic books is always apparent and the production value only seems to be going up. I also love the community aspect with so many youtubers participating especially the Weekly Planet duo! Keep up the great work.

[@veggiet2009]

KZbin has conditioned me to be so excited when a video is red released and able to watch that these premiers feel completely anticlimactic.

[@Magmafrost13]

I almost forgot to watch this video because of this stupid system.

[@mattjohnston2]

Scott, that was such a great video! Absolutely love how much you've matured over the years doing this, not only has your overall presentation improved dramatically, but the quality has never diminished.

[@TheRatsCast]

Oh; and Yes! I would love to hear your thoughts on the Last Great Stan Lee!

[@HealthyAndrew]

The Rat's Cast late great you mean

[@morganandmariahjohnson208]

@@HealthyAndrew '

[@MUMSUniverse]

This was a really really good episode. 💯 Would love to hear your thoughts on Stan Lee!

[@lssjgaming1599]

Wow I can’t believe Jim Shooter made comics at such a young age. That’s actually pretty interesting.

[@AdamYJ]

He did. And in some ways he’s responsible for the Legion of Superheroes becoming what they are. While the Teen Titans didn’t take off, the Legion who Shooter wrote inspired by his own teenage friends did. He also created the Parasite.

[@power_houz]

5:11 CaptainMidnight? After 6:35 It's more Sunday Movies! After 9:18 and 11:11 it's MASON from Sunday Movies!

[@kyote1r77]

Yeah it does sound like Mason

[@vernonsanders9696]

I've met Jim Shooter, he's a really nice man. He's also a heck of a story teller.

[@harrywompa]

I love the production values in this video! Great to see you guys are still around :) Also, I hecking love the new teen titans. Most of that era of 70's comics is a little too... goofy? for me. But New Teen Titans is so mature, and isn't afraid to be dark, but like, in a genuine way. It wasn't Miller dark, or Moore dark, it was a bright and colourful world, but with such broken people in it. Starfire's origin comic still makes me cry, and Cyborg's stories are often hard to read. I mean... I also have a heaping helping of nostalgia for the Teen Titans animated series that adapted most of the run, so there's that too. Idk... there's just something about this comics run that speaks to my soul, that misfit part of me. Gives me hope.

[@Ataru320]

One thing though: as much as Shooter was hated, he did fix a lot of Marvel's problems and lead to their big period. The only problem is that once he was gone, it all went to hell in a handbasket...but that's another story.

[@PhoenixAgent003]

As someone who grew up watching the Teen Titans show, I did not expect to have that “and when there’s trouble, you know who to call” into the theme song drop hit me like a ton of bricks.

[@carlrood4457]

I wonder if Shooter's unpopularity actually comes down to these guys actually having a real boss for the first time in years.

[@JohnnyStanwyck]

I almost fell out of my chair at "That's so Raven!" :D

[@NickMichalak]

Man, Scott. This was an impeccable production. The photography, motion graphics, and general presentation was really exceptional! I know you were fretting over the audio quality on Twitter, but it came off as A-Okay to me despite the extra reverb in the room. If you want, you can buy a telescoping boom mic stand to get your microphone closer to you while on-camera. I did that earlier this year, and it was a real improvement! Anyway, this was a really stellar piece of work!

[@tylertanner7378]

man, when that teen titans theme song hit, I got some feels

[@numairnayeem]

"is that a real quote?" "it sounds like a real quote" BEST LINE

[@spacephantomranger]

the overall quality of this video was amazing! props to you and all the wonderful people involved in producing this!

[@sransom042]

Love these bits of comic history and how real life stuff transitions into masterpieces

[@rumblefish9]

And to think people diss Joe Quesada for Spiderman's marriage. They clearly never knew about Jim Shooter.

[@walterhoward5512]

Say what you will about Shooter, he presided over one of the better time periods in Marvel history and then started Valiant which was very good under his guidance. He is a skilled editor.

[@parkb5320]

Awesome video. I loved the Teen Titans all through the 70’s, but I especially loved the New Teen Titans in the 80’s. It was very interesting to hear all about their creation.

[@cephalopad]

I had no idea that Marv Wolfman was Australian... and a goat in a Han Solo vest.

[@cephalopad]

Hmm. Since Jim Shooter had the infinity gauntlet, I guess that explains things.

[@kalebsantos72]

Yeah plus he’s not a wolfman at all he’s a goat

[@AB23456]

Absolutely Amazing scott! love the video

[@TheRageng]

I really like the cinematography in this video. Scott has improved continuously during the years.

[@crimsonmask3819]

Jim Shooter is the greatest of them all. He wasn't just a "young up-and-comer" but a wunderkind who had things figured out at sixteen that a _lot_ of other folks in the business _never_ seem to get a handle on. I wouldn't say he's got the creative gifts of a Marv Wolfman or fanboyish enthusiasm for the characters of a Roy Thomas, but the insights he has are what made him the best possible choice for Editor In Chief.

[@xhielorei]

This video won with the that's so raven line alone

[@sahilpurswani]

I remember the first time I saw your video. It was nothing like I've ever seen before. It had and still has content that is unique and it actually make tou think rather than rapid blur of names and visuals from similar sources. Scott, your style has definitely evolved and they are a breath of fresh air and most welcome. It's sad that rapidly changing KZbin and comics and related scene has put you in a position which might not be really comfortable but I really appreciate your determination and efforts. I love watching your videos and just keep up the great work.

[@ThaMobstarr]

This video was beautifully written and edited. I really hope people will recognise the quality in this video. You deserve a lot of views on this one!

[@youtoobay]

Keep up the great work. These are some of the best stuff on the internet. I've been a big nerd sync fan for years but ever since the Captain American episode the quality of the videos is just amazing. It feels different than just about every other thing on youtube, in a good way. This feels like something that would be on TV.

[@prophet1390]

Would love to see a video about your feeling on Stan “ _THE_ True Believer” Lee

[@jacobkeary6740]

You mean Stan the man Lee

[@thebigdawgj]

You mean Stan "the man who takes credit for the works of everyone else" Lee?

[@prophet1390]

justin fwibber yup

[@thebigdawgj]

@Captain Marvel I bet you think Steve Jobs made Apple and not Wozniak.

[@r520jr8]

I'm quite late but this is a fantastic video in every aspect. From the way it's shot, to the production value, too the humor. Everything. Please do more of this. Applause all around Also got job on getting James and Maso

[@z-naqvi8127]

Omggg mr sunday moviess!!! Right? Hahaha

[@vlonewolfv]

Love the video. I always love hearing about the events that led to huge moments in the industry and how they reverberate throughout. Quite amazing. As far as the Stan Lee video. I know you said you didn’t want to “cash in” on his death. But I think the fact that you even legitimately have those concerns means that your video wouldn’t be a cash in.

[@TheRatsCast]

Funny enough; Marv Wolfman's New Teen Titan (later called Titans) was one of the few DC books I read regularly. My favorite story involved Donna ("Who Is Wonder Girl?") as she learned the truth about who and what she was! As she took on the name Troia. That series would come to an end in 2002, but I had dropped the book way before it ended; as I was cutting down the number of comics I was buying. After spending over $100 a month; something needed to change! My love of comics would was too much on my wallet, and had to come to end shortly after!

[@MyHandle4455]

The Rat's Cast Are you sure you don’t mean Who is Donna Troy? That story was one of the best of their run.

[@redhawkmillenium]

Johnny Tseng, nope, "Who Is Donna Troy" and "Who Is Wonder Girl" are two different stories. The first is a single issue noir-esque story from...1983 I believe?...where Dick Grayson investigated and found what happened to Donna's biological parents, that's the one you're referring to. And I agree, it's great. However...that version of Donna's backstory involved Wonder Woman saving her from a burning building as a toddler and bringing her to Themiscyra, where she grew up. In the post-Crisis on Infinite Earths Wonder Woman reboot (written by George Perez), Diana only left Themiscyra to live in Man's World a year ago. So, she couldn't have rescued Donna and brought her to Paradise Island. And so, Marv had to write a new backstory for Donna, retconning "Who Is Donna Troy". The new backstory was told in a 5 part story published in 1988, called "Who Is Wonder Girl", which ends with Donna taking on the identity of "Troia". That identity didn't stick quite as well as, say, when Marv gave Dick Grayson the new identity of Nightwing, though. And that's only one part of Donna's convoluted publication history (she was literally created by accident! ) The irony of this is even though Marv and George co-wrote the older "Who Is Donna Troy", they're directly responsible for the need to retcon it. Marv wrote Crisis on Infinite Earths and George wrote the Wonder Woman reboot (which were both really good and worth reading, mind you). The more you know!

[@carlrood4457]

@@redhawkmillenium "Who is Wonder Girl" was the story that gave Donna's (first) post-Crisis Origin. It was also the storyline where they took Teen out of the title. DC had rebooted Wonder Woman having her arrive in the present day. New Teen Titans was too popular and Donna was an essential member, so her ties to Wonder Woman had to be severed since they were now pretty much the same age and Donna had been operating as Wonder Girl for years before Wonder Woman ever appeared. It did a decent job, keeping the Greek Mythology angle and most of the New Teen Titans history. Pretty much just the Thia storyline had to be dumped. While that had introduced two new characters, one was always meant to be killed off in Crisis and the other never caught on and silently disappeared.

[@j.b.6780]

0:30 on the left hand you can notice DC's first two African American superheroes that are constantly treated like crap! Malcolm Duncan a.k.a. Guardian, Herald, Vox created in 1970 and Karen Beecher a.k.a. Bumblebee created in 1973. DC claims Black Lightning was first but he was created in 1977.

[@marih_2017]

I like the storyline too

[@JediGeronimo]

"That's so RAVEN!" Nice one Scott! :)

[@khdur]

Stan Lee's personality was big & broad and to minimize that would diminish him as a whole human. I began collecting in the 60s and Stan was everything...AND by the time I was in my mid teens in the 70s we were getting clued in. Even without the internet and news about comics everywhere it was obvious that there were personality disputes and flaws running rampant throughout the industry. This is a terrific Channel so give us everything you got. It's a well-known fact that Jim Shooter was difficult to say the least. Things always work out and because life isn't lived in a vacuum it's okay if someone's a dick. That usually spawns something else from those around them. As much as I admire both John Byrne & Chris Clairmont it was getting obvious to all us readers that not everything was going well down at the bullpen. If it was easy it wouldn't be art. Learning a little about Stan's humanity is only going to make us love him more. Bring it on.

[@cameoshadowness7757]

:)

[@Laser0rick]

The production quality of this is INSANE. Feels like it belongs on TV.

[@excollector9963]

I get that Shooter is an easy target but it begs the question, "Shooter insisted on tight deadlines." How was he wrong? He has stated that comics are a relationship with the buyer and fans should be able to expect April's comics in April, not June. He clashed with the super talented Chris Clairemont but Clairemont kept trying to put bedroom scenes between the cannon age 14 year old Kitty Pryde and young adult Colossus. How was Shooter wrong for repeatedly vetoing those even if it frustrated one of his top writers? Yes, Shooter's desire to control the look of every single book had to be frustrating in a creative environment but people got paid more under Shooter, Marvel gained stability and creator owned comics became a reality under Shooter with the Epic line. Yes, a lot of people's favorite writers and artists clashed with Shooter but look at the chaos surrounding any company with a weak EiC and compare and contrast Shooter's run and his insistence on quality ad having projects complete. Maybe Shooter is the big bad in this little drama, but maybe, he's also the adult looking at the bottom line and trying to impose some order in what had been an increasingly chaotic company. Josef Rubenstein once said Shooter was the kind of person who didn't understand "Gee, you don't sweat much for a fat girl," wasn't a compliment so it isn't hard to understand how he became unpopular but to casually paint him as a complete villain seems beneath the kind of research and explanation you're trying to offer here. It's also worth pointing out, many of these people had left DC for Marvel and received promotions before resigning those promotions and jumping back to DC. It is often the nature of the business that creative differences become intensely personal and someone leaves the company.

[@markhutchins7808]

Jim Shooter is Stan Lee without the charm and social skills. Think about it

[@deterlanglytone]

I was thinking about that. One also must mention his work with Valiant comics. Where the man worked long hours, he set up programs to teach young artists. That man helped plenty of people get into the business. Was he a flawless man? God no! Its plain to see that he had issues, but that doesn't mean that he deserves to be as badly looked upon as some thinks he should be.

[@Goldnfoxx]

I grew up in and starting reading comics in the Shooter era, and those are still my favorite books. I hear everyone put down Shooter, and I get the impression that it was probably his bedside manner, but I get the feeling I'd probably get along better with him than anyone working at Marvel or DC these days. That he lasted as long as he did, I think, says a lot about him and Marvel's need at the time for someone like that. Just glad he wasn't my boss, too.

[@deterlanglytone]

@@Goldnfoxx Yeah, I respect the man's work edict, if not his apparent bad manners, but I just know that if I was his employee I would not ever get on with the man. Maybe even if I wasn't, but you get what I am saying?

[@rumblefish9]

Jim Shooter is the reason Hank Pym will forever be known as a "wife beater" and he didn't even bother to finish the storyline or publish an erratum or clarification until YEARS later.

[@karabearcomics]

I definitely chuckled at the smart phone hung up on the cradle, and the "that's so Raven" line.

[@pgaven9396]

Jim Shooter...the man behind Doctor Doom's mask..

[@ethancastelino]

The mr Sunday movie voiceovers really caught me off guard!! Really great video btw

[@DensityDennis]

I miss your videos, Scott! Please make more!

[@lorddarkseid4009]

Huzzah, another video. I legitimately missed seeing new content. Your Adam West tribute was beautiful, and even though Stan Lee wasn't quite as wholesome, I'd still love something similar. Keep up the good work!

[@jonseyjones321]

I love how you left the ending of Nicks V.O 😂 good job maso. I'm Jim Shooter 😂

[@deanfenech]

I really enjoy the new "acted out" explanations. Great job guys

[@charleshockenbury353]

I think enough time has past that we could tolerate an honest reflection on Stan Lee's past.

[@Joshua.Quillen]

I love nick, mr Sunday movies and captain midnight, thank you Scott for putting together a nice collaboration :)

[@Estarfigam]

I would love a Stan Lee tribute, also I'd like to know more about John Verpoorten

[@artichoke873]

Australian Marv Wolfman is my favorite, and thank you Scott for turning me on to Mr. Sunday Movies! I check that channel quite often now, great content! Not unlike your own.

[@thntr]

There should be a separate video that is just Mr. Sunday Movies and Mason saying all the lines you made up specifically to abuse your power.

[@jay__birdie]

THIS VIDEO WAS SO GOOD!!! The style and storytelling was so amazing and much better than what I'm used to seeing in KZbin videos, you did a really good job! Keep it going, Scott.

[@someguynamedelan]

Amused by Marv Wolfman's accent. I've had the pleasure of meeting him a few times. ...I know he wouldn't remember me, though.

[@RickeyGonzales]

Your videos are amazing!

[@brodyman30]

Was that Mr. Sunday movies as marv wolf man? That's sweet.

[@christinaVennegerts]

Awesome video - I especially love how your videos aren't just "talking head" formats, but have so many props and effects =D! They are actually videos I actively watch, not just have them run in the background while doing other stuff.

[@JosephWolfson]

3:00 Yes, YOU GOT MR. SUNDAY MOVIES!

[@logantyree4134]

I love the youtuber cameos! Especially Mr. Sunday movies and Nick Mason. Great video, keep it up! Thanks Scott! (P.S. I think it would he cool to see a Stan Lee dedication video from you, cause it wouldn't just be for click bait.)

[@kiefah15]

I really liked this live format, it was pretty cool. It'd be nice to see this a little bit more in future but not every video.

[@cameoshadowness7757]

Agreed. This will be great for specials and SUPER indepth and dramatic things like this.

[@IfYouSayStay]

I love your take on all things nerdy. You’re so insightful and accessible. Thank you. Plus you’re way cute to boot.

[@justjack2131]

I was just rewatching a couple of your older videos yesterday. Can’t wait to see what this video has in store!

[@CruceibleProductions]

This is hands down one of your best videos Scott! Excellent job!

[@brianrebmann676]

Very good video. I enjoyed the history discussed in the video. I never knew any of this. It really is very interesting to learn all of this and to think the real life events that shaped Marvel and DC in the present day. Thanks for a great video.

[@superlive98]

If you like history misrepresented to suit a biased narrative, you mean.

[@MrAmateurNerd]

Scott, I absolutely loved this video. The production effort is insane but it pays off. I see why the videos take so long to make but they're gorgeous and smart every time.

[@nightviewstudio1185]

I’m excited! (Apparently way more then others in this comment section) Just finished the episode: Worth it!

[@superlive98]

No, it wasn't.

[@nightviewstudio1185]

superlive98 yeah well to each there own I guess

[@thebpphantom]

Damn, this was a fantastic one Scott and Team. Kudos and well done all!

[@battleupsaber462]

When there's trouble you know who to call... *MARVEL EXECS!*

[@jourdanfarmer]

I’ve been watching NerdSync for years now, and it just keeps getting better. Thanks for such quality content, Scott and company. Excelsior!

[@LukeDJoyce]

Honestly this video is fantastic, well informed and interesting. Scott, you shouldn't worry about making fun of or misinterpreting the memory of Stan Lee. As you said it yourself, he would want people to remember him for who he was, and not through rose-tinted glasses.

[@greenchev89]

I love all your newer long form videos. I don't care how long they take to make, keep up the good work you guys!

[@Jayyyyyyy_____]

Haven't finished watching yet ,but already know the video is gonna be 🔥. Thanks NerdSync for all these amazing vids excelsior

[@00moon]

I'm pausing the video to say the quality, is soooooo good, I have actual tears in my eyes. Scott you're doing well.

[@julianoviedo3104]

Do the story of stan lee as you did the story of adam west

[@rikbelt]

The Titans have always been my favorite, 1981 was my senior year of high school. I have Wolfman and Perez, both wonderful men and last year met Jim Shooter in Lexington, KY, he is a very nice man.

[@Nothing_Israel]

Your videos are terrific . This one was brilliant and excellently done. You have grown quite a bit as a creator though I worry the high production value may be causing way too much time between videos. I hope you do a stan Lee video. Immediately after Lee’s passing I came to your channel and binged. You have really helped show Stan’s humanity.

[@radioactivepsycho101]

This was amazing!! Great job Scott , can tell you worked hard on this and it payed off !

[@vacaespacial]

Marv gave us Crisis on Infinite Earths. Amem that!

[@rmannayr2129]

TOTALLY!

[@cacaiprado]

I dig this format of story-telling a LOT. It looks like a hellll of a lot of work but its amazing!

[@TheJohno95]

Let's say this about Jim Shooter....People might not have liked working with him. But....Look at how great those peoples' work was while Jim was there keeping them in line. And how bad a lot of them sucked when Jim left. That is part of the problem with a lot of modern comics. The "editors" spend all day sitting around texting and tweeting and not manning the ship. A lot of creators need someone to pull them back a little when they go off the rails. Unbridled creativity can become unreadable chaos. NOTE: I don't mean that about all modern comics. A lot of them are great and it's one of my favorite periods in comics. But a lot of editors need to get their stuff together and pay attention to what is going on in their books, other books, the whole quesadilla. SECOND NOTE: Just because someone is dead doesn't mean you can't tell funny stories about them. Being dead doesn't make you a saint.

[@lordtrigon1733]

This was a fascinating story, the Teen Titans was what drew me into comics as I loved the focus on the characters and friendships as the other tropes of superheroes never appealed to me as much and your point about them being different genres was another thing I thought was awesome. They will always be my favourite team and Raven my favourite superhero. Maybe unpopular opinion but I’ve enjoyed every adaptation of them (even TTG the one I am apparently required to hate). Great video.

[@bigbillyc9878]

I would love to hear your thoughts on Stan lee

[@MyHandle4455]

Thanks so much for this video. I’ve been a comics fan for thirty years and The New Teen Titans by Wolfman and Perez was the first book that I followed. No other version of the Titans that has come since has even come close to this run. And Wolfman’s interpretation of the core characters is how I like to remember them. Thanks again!

[@marciawilliams2499]

as long as he gets results im good with shooter

[@RowdyRodimus]

100% agree. Look at how books came out under Shooter and how they are now that they let everyone do whatever they want. I'll take "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" and The Dark Phoenix Saga over "America: Why You All Racists" and "Captain Marvel: Why You All Sexist (and Racist!" any day.

[@ChromeFamily]

I love this channel, I have no idea why it keeps dropping from my feed though. I never get any new notifications I always have to remember once every couple of months to check the channel directly. Love the content here

[@r0kus]

I really like the format used here, with the "story within a story" approach. However, if you lack the budget to always do these episodes, I would not complain if you needed to go back to the "lone talking head" format. ... But if you do have the budget, the tongue-in-cheek outer story is really fun.

[@batfreak1981]

Omg! Mr Sunday Movies and Mason? AHHHH that's so awesome

[@steverogers2635]

You can say what you want. Jim shooter did more for Marvel Comics than anyone besides Stan Lee. However, their quality is now so low I doubt even he could save them.

[@Mesfizzy]

Mr Sunday Movies and Nick Mason! The second I heard their voiced I lost my mind, absolutely fantastic stuff with this video. ♥️

[@Baalcebub]

What the hell? How do I disable this "function"? I don't care if a video will eventually be available, just leet me know when it actually is possible to watch it, you know, the normal way. What ridiculous attempt at pointless hype is this?. This is so annoying.

[@trevorjones9988]

I first watched this channel for comic misconception, and even tho there is rarely a new video. I still love this channel. Also I love Mr. SundayMovies and Mason!!!

[@gruwidge]

I actually really like the premier thing, it makes me kinda more exited for the video to come out, especially when it's something this high of quality! And I get to watch people's real time reactions to the video.

[@hosebeefstick]

Great video Scott! You really knocked it out of the park in this one! Thank you for all of the great videos, my dude!

[@JacoboTeijelo]

I can say with a doubt that nerd sync is one of the best channels in the game

[@endanarchy]

Okay. You deserve my subscribe. You have great showmanship. "You got moxie, kid."