The REAL Origin of Spider-Man's J. Jonah Jameson

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@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
*COUPLE OF THINGS* • Sorry for the video getting all glitchy towards the end. Premiere started freaking out on me. • Also, the music might be off because I couldn't check it that well on my laptop. So sorry if that's annoying. • In good news, shoutout to Sal from ComicPOP for being a great Peter Parker! • We have another new video later this week, so subscroyb, or whatever.
@munjee2
@munjee2 6 жыл бұрын
NerdSync I would've though the glitching subscribe sign was intentional of you didn't point it out
@zanejenkins8418
@zanejenkins8418 6 жыл бұрын
Yay it’s up. You got a friend to your apartment
@comicpop
@comicpop 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me!
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 6 жыл бұрын
NerdSync seems like premiere can be problematic often
@maattthhhh
@maattthhhh 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting parallel. But IMO it's one of those big coincidences in comics.
@spider-insider7981
@spider-insider7981 6 жыл бұрын
Having J. K. Simmons to play J Jonah Jameson was like capturing lightning in a bottle
@Rentfree404
@Rentfree404 6 жыл бұрын
Nice
@ParkerGabriel
@ParkerGabriel 6 жыл бұрын
And then having that bottle DETONATE on them and KILL them!!!
@mirandagoldstine8548
@mirandagoldstine8548 5 жыл бұрын
He made an awesome J. Jonah Jameson
@daamazinfatb0y752
@daamazinfatb0y752 5 жыл бұрын
He IS J Jonah Jameson!
@Clarkzer0
@Clarkzer0 5 жыл бұрын
👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
@Donnakilluminati
@Donnakilluminati 6 жыл бұрын
J. Jonah Jameson is secretly Spider-Man wearing a human suit.
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
You've cracked the case!
@deutshsean8313
@deutshsean8313 4 жыл бұрын
W H E E Z E
@lordbendtner6404
@lordbendtner6404 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdSyncProductions but but that scene in the movie
@dingdongbingbongboi6531
@dingdongbingbongboi6531 3 жыл бұрын
*gasp* Of course it makes so much sense now!
@Wixhael
@Wixhael 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I'd kill for some real life photos of Spider-Man too.
@CharmedReally7
@CharmedReally7 3 жыл бұрын
you would...?
@FleezyFliits
@FleezyFliits 6 жыл бұрын
"Here's a headline: Food Poisoning Scare Sweeps City!" "Some food was poisoned?" "I'm feeling a bit nauseous, so yeah."
@Jebu911
@Jebu911 3 жыл бұрын
He is one of the reasons new spiderman movies cant top the raimi movies.
@JJJameson.
@JJJameson. 6 жыл бұрын
Fake news
@ArjonRahman
@ArjonRahman 6 жыл бұрын
J.J Jameson Wanna tell you a secret, your freelance photographer is a man of many masks...
@MuggMen
@MuggMen 6 жыл бұрын
Hey JJJ Jr. what's up?
@JSA-Studios
@JSA-Studios 5 жыл бұрын
JJJ you want to fight
@nezumi6554
@nezumi6554 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArjonRahman The Chameleon?
@eqs1003
@eqs1003 5 жыл бұрын
Y u haaate spider maaaaaaaaaan?!!
@JPFanBoy2
@JPFanBoy2 6 жыл бұрын
Would you ever make a video about the ethics of Peter taking pictures of himself as Spider-Man for profit? I remember reading about how something like that was journalistically underhanded; what would your take be on that?
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
That's interesting... I'll have to think on that. Great suggestion!
@rarm5899
@rarm5899 6 жыл бұрын
Sprinkles Sundae Kinda sounds like something that would constitute as a crime in the real world, though I’m not a professional on law.
@brucewayne7975
@brucewayne7975 6 жыл бұрын
interesting concept
@isaacvargas3408
@isaacvargas3408 6 жыл бұрын
Sprinkles Sundae isn't he just getting paid to take selfies
@davidbjacobs3598
@davidbjacobs3598 6 жыл бұрын
I've wondered about this as well. There's certainly potential for corruption i.e. "this super villain is falling pretty easy, I should let him run amok a bit to get better pictures." That said, there's bound to be better ways to cash in on it. (Though Peter has also published a since-forgotten book collecting his photos, which seemed to be rather popular in-world. It was a plot excuse to set every issue in another city for a bit while he toured.) I've also always wondered how any of his pictures are remotely useable. I don't particularly buy the "set it to automatic" excuse. Any professional photographer would flip at the idea of setting a camera to automatic.
@Tamashikiri
@Tamashikiri 6 жыл бұрын
I remember a few years back, my parents got me the Marvel Comics: The Complete Visual Guide, and in that book, the description of Jamesson's first appearance is accompanied by the panel of him declaring Spider-Man as a "bad influence on our youngsters," which made me suspect the character may have at been at least partially inspired by Wertham, especially since it wouldn't have been the first time Stan had done that. No really, back in the fifties when Wertham's crusade was still going strong, Stan wrote a story for one of Marvel's horror anthologies (I'd have to check the book again to remember the exact title and issue) featuring Fredrick Wertham as a mental patient who barges into Marvel's offices to accuse them of all the shit he lambasted the comic industry for IRL, only for the orderlies of his asylum to haul him back before he can finish his rant.
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 6 жыл бұрын
Maple Samurai lol
@EmethMatthew
@EmethMatthew 6 жыл бұрын
I think it can be both... They can't directly port a sociologist into comics as a newspaper editor, so the editor part comes from Stan... BUT I absolutely agree the parallels in the narrative line up too well for the reader to NOT make that comparison! I hadn't thought of it before specifically but upon seeing the title (and having seen your other videos on the CCA) I knew exactly where this was going and it totally clicked!
@Nothing_Israel
@Nothing_Israel 2 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video - however like you said - Stan Lee was a story teller and “I based JJ on this con man who almost destroyed our industry” makes a far better and more compelling story than “I based him on myself,” so if it were true I think Stan would tell the true story because that would be the most interesting one.
@officialgoogleyoutube
@officialgoogleyoutube 6 жыл бұрын
Just as far as the official answer goes, I wonder if Stan didn't necessarily base Jameson on himself, but rather Steve Ditko sought some retribution and created a character to mock Stan, or at least make himself feel better about the "Marvel Comics Method."
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
I think there's definitely a little of that in there.
@markmolino6091
@markmolino6091 6 жыл бұрын
Guy Incognito ,you hit the nail on the head bro,knowing the shady dealings Stan has with his co-creators at the time that sometimes leaves his legacy questionable.
@nooneinparticular5256
@nooneinparticular5256 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he was also based on an anti-comic book activist. I forget his name, but he was obsessed with proving comic books were the cause of so many societal problems.
@officialgoogleyoutube
@officialgoogleyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
@@nooneinparticular5256 I guess Fredric Wertham and Jameson have that in common.
@nooneinparticular5256
@nooneinparticular5256 3 жыл бұрын
@@officialgoogleyoutube Yeah, that was my mistake. I forgot this vid actually went into detail on that activist, and posted this comment...before he got to that subject.
@joeworpole2295
@joeworpole2295 6 жыл бұрын
Fact Chanel news?, sounds trust worthy
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, right?! It sounds suspiciously defensive right out of the gate, haha.
@kappapond
@kappapond 6 жыл бұрын
Very trustworthy. Now I know how much of a menace Spider-Man really is.
@timhoward5
@timhoward5 5 жыл бұрын
I gave you your 100th like
@agent42q
@agent42q 6 жыл бұрын
OH man... you missed a chance to just fill the screen with pop ups of every video you have in reference to Stan telling some sort of a lie... SELF PROMO!
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was lazy. Haha
@agent42q
@agent42q 6 жыл бұрын
Ha, the rest of your video says otherwise! Keep it up.
@Electrovicane
@Electrovicane 6 жыл бұрын
I think it was a combination of the two, he self inserted himself in the form of JJJ, but also his experiences. If he wanted JJJ to be a villain it makes sense for him to reflect whomever Stan saw as a villain in his own life
@brunfranc
@brunfranc 6 жыл бұрын
Never has that specific type of mustache been so apropriate.
@Call-me-Al
@Call-me-Al 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Hitler only used that style of mustache instead of a more normal one because he was ordered to trim his normal one down, so that the gas masks would make a good seal during any mustard gas attacks
@ninjabluefyre3815
@ninjabluefyre3815 3 жыл бұрын
Something wrong with Charlie Chaplin?
@hannahallie1121
@hannahallie1121 6 жыл бұрын
I knew you were gonna pull the astronaut line! I was waiting for that callback to your video with J all video. Not disappointed lol. Awesome video Scott
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
I had to! Haha
@MrDariox555
@MrDariox555 6 жыл бұрын
I believe Stan actually wanted JJJ to be a self-parody, but you can't take the author apart from his context. He wanted to portray JJJ as a mean guy. Someone who doesn't care about the good that someone does, or the livehood of others. The man that best fitted that description, in Stan's mind, was Wertham. He didn't lie. He wasn't fully aware of the truth behind his own actions.
@andten100
@andten100 6 жыл бұрын
Spider man JJJ are friends right now. *SPOILERS FOR THE CURRENT SPECTACULAR SPIDER MAN COMIC* He even knows spider man's true identity.
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, for sure. But I think most people recognize him as an adversary still.
@andten100
@andten100 6 жыл бұрын
Either way, made sense to mention it.
@stephenthedude4383
@stephenthedude4383 6 жыл бұрын
The Sanctified Documents is the series any good?
@andten100
@andten100 6 жыл бұрын
The first few aren't that good, issue 6 is a good place to start, then the legacy issues are pretty good.
@thepeternetwork
@thepeternetwork 5 жыл бұрын
And how do the two feel about that from each others' perspective?
@paulpizzlewizzle
@paulpizzlewizzle 6 жыл бұрын
His son is a werewolf! Excelsior true believers!... Spoilers!
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Y'know, the astronaut.
@markmolino6091
@markmolino6091 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Lehman ,I still have the comic ,it wasn't a bad story though.
@Brione30
@Brione30 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Lehman The astronaut?
@paulpizzlewizzle
@paulpizzlewizzle 6 жыл бұрын
Brione before he was a lycanthrope he was an astronaut. Comics are weird.
@paulpizzlewizzle
@paulpizzlewizzle 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Molino I had the tell tale. It was a little story book with a 45 vinyl
@kej_snake
@kej_snake 5 жыл бұрын
I would say that him being an editor was based on Stan like how he treated Parker but his position against spidey was Wertham. A combination.
@1Ring42
@1Ring42 6 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking it's probably a combination of the two. The parallels are too strong for a lack of influence. Odds are Mercer was more of a subconscious inspiration and the Stan Lee inspiration was more overt.
@OwenLikesComics
@OwenLikesComics 6 жыл бұрын
What are you waiting for, Chinese New Year?
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Endlessly entertaining!
@alexzamudio9239
@alexzamudio9239 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to catch him with his hand inside the cookie jar
@kstormgeistgem461
@kstormgeistgem461 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can see how it could be Both a self portrait And a shot at the mental midgets attacking comics. Though I think Stan Lee putting it all on himself was less a full blown "lie" as it was a way to make sure nobody got sued for defamation of character or some such nonsense. As well as making sure that nobody would jump in and make it so "JJ" couldn't continue to be used.
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I never thought of comparing JJJ to Wertham. I just assumed he was a generic, blustery, bully-type character. One of my favorite issues is Spider-Man #192, in which Spidey is quite literally stuck with J. Jonah while trying to disarm the bomb they are both attached to. It provides some very revealing insights into both characters and their relationship to each other.
@garrettreily1033
@garrettreily1033 6 жыл бұрын
9:33 “you know, the astronaut” is now my favorite cameo 10/10
@evanbao93
@evanbao93 5 жыл бұрын
While it is true that J Jonah Jameson's first appearance seems to based on Wertham, it should be noted that his debut lacks the traditional sitcom dynamic of the Daily Bugle that best characterized Jameson at his finest. There's no Peter Parker selling pictures of Spider-Man to Jameson in that issue, no Jameson brainstorming on how to maximize his profits (which tends to be giving Parker a minimum paycheck for the photos), no Robbie Robertson to temper Jameson's wild temper, no high schoolers like Betty Brant to do all the hard work behind the scenes while their boss gets the majority of the credits. I believe when Stan Lee says that Jameson was based on himself, he was comparing the working environment of the Daily Bugle to the working environment of Marvel Comics. And there, you can see why he sees Jameson as an exaggerated version of himself.
@CINEMAZE
@CINEMAZE 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, especially the 'a fact im very proud of' part, love your real origin vids
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I like making them! Glad people like watching them!
@namegoeshere5220
@namegoeshere5220 6 жыл бұрын
Fredric Wertham?! He's history's greatest monster!
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 6 жыл бұрын
William Bussey the worst Nazi sympathizer and true Nazi in History #werthamthenazi
@ParkerGabriel
@ParkerGabriel 6 жыл бұрын
Quack Friedrich Vertam would have made a WONDERFUL anti-Semite were it not for the fact that HE was Jewish HIMSELF!!!
@MaggieCandy999
@MaggieCandy999 4 жыл бұрын
CHIGGS 58TH I understood that reference.
@ashwolf2006
@ashwolf2006 4 жыл бұрын
basically the first SJW garbage.
@GiloTintin
@GiloTintin 6 жыл бұрын
More animated comics please! That last moment where the panels had the voice over was brilliant!!!!
@valmid5069
@valmid5069 4 жыл бұрын
Forget Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Mysterio, Vulture, Black Cat, or even HYDRA. Spidey’s Moriarty is J. Jonah Jameson and his press machine! *I used to think he is a menace... but now I realize I want pictures of Spider-Man!*
@marcussilva649
@marcussilva649 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Scott! I just wanted to let you know that I just wrote an article (yes, a scientific article) about superhero origins and psychoanalysis, and your videos are listed as a source (a very important source, I might add). I presented a preliminary version of it last week in a congress here in Brazil, and I hope to get it published later this year. Keep up the good work!
@IronLegionnaire1
@IronLegionnaire1 4 жыл бұрын
The fact the CCA is so strict just shows me that people never change. Like... We have people who go overboard trying to be politically correct today, and back then colloquial terms and slang were to be minimized?! There's always gonna be people complaining about something. Always.
@outpostalpha
@outpostalpha 6 жыл бұрын
Scott, your Jameson impression is great! I love any time you do fun voices and impersonations like that, you're definitely an above-average actor and super entertaining to watch! A great, fun, informative video, as always!
@plcthelegacy4131
@plcthelegacy4131 3 жыл бұрын
It's strange, as A kid I thought J. Jonah Jamison was too over the top but now for the past 3 years, I've met people who are like this.
@dppool456
@dppool456 4 жыл бұрын
I would not be surprised if it was a subconscious connection, but I don't think Lee actually meant for the reference, chiefly because if he did it'd make a great story and by this point would've likely come out. It's not like he was reluctant to criticize the CCA. But after living through the near end of comic books by misleading facts, I'm sure the idea of distorting facts and misinforming the public was bouncing around in his head for decades to come, and JJJ was one of the ways it may have manifested.
@applecoreeater
@applecoreeater 6 жыл бұрын
I mean... arguably J3 could be based on ANY journalist/the journalism industry. But I loved this video :)
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
For sure. I think in general you can read the relationship between Jameson and Spidey as critics vs the industry.
@applecoreeater
@applecoreeater 6 жыл бұрын
NerdSync yeah, not just that though - but a general reflection on the way journalism manipulates information for their own gain whether that be political or financial.
@samhighvoltage
@samhighvoltage 6 жыл бұрын
JJJ is definitely one of my favorite characters in all of comics. Great tribute to him, Scott! Also oddly a sequel to one of my favorite videos on your channel, excited for the trilogy to be completed ❤
@prakhyavrajesh
@prakhyavrajesh 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos! They're always super interesting and compelling please keep going! I'm been watching for many years now think I watched almost all your comic misconception videos hahaha
@bigredcheeze5047
@bigredcheeze5047 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! Great video! This reminded me of the video you did awhile back explaining why Jameson hates Spider-Man. You guys gave alot of great examples and basically covered it all, but I think The Amazing Spider-Man #192 will provide more insight.
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Cool! That was a Super Carlin video.
@Reptosaur963
@Reptosaur963 6 жыл бұрын
Sal did a good voice for Parker, I'm exited to see his next few
@ap-uz9ru
@ap-uz9ru 6 жыл бұрын
When you get older and you actually start agreeing with J. Jonah Jameson
@LarryBonson
@LarryBonson 6 жыл бұрын
Average Person True, lol
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man is indeed a menace. Let's all agree on that.
@leotamer5
@leotamer5 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Parker is a whirling pool of despair and misery that destroys anything he so much as looks as for to long, but that has nothing to do with spiderman.
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 6 жыл бұрын
You die a hero or live long enough to become a villian
@stephenolder4552
@stephenolder4552 6 жыл бұрын
In which regard? Didn't the character spread lies and was closed minded to any contrary evidence to his belief? Or is that what you're saying, that once we get older we become more closed minded?
@bookworm2442
@bookworm2442 6 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've watched your videos, and your production value has skyrocketed since then! Great video!
@sneggleblech
@sneggleblech 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Scott!
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, man!
@sneggleblech
@sneggleblech 6 жыл бұрын
Always
@SUPERMEDIABROTHERS6
@SUPERMEDIABROTHERS6 6 жыл бұрын
I think both stories are probably true. I think the initial story was probably based on Wertham. But then Stan just thought it would be too funny to keep the character around and have Peter working for the guy. Which is why he goes from being a writer to an editor in between stories. Then as Stan started writing the character sillier and sillier Someone probably made a joke about Stan being JJJ. Which he then adopted as his own. Even though in the beginning I really think Stan's self insert character was actually Peter himself.
@Jmadigan934
@Jmadigan934 6 жыл бұрын
I wrote my senior dissertation on Spider-Man, and I never thought to make this connection. Simple yet elegant, it makes perfect sense and illuminates the early issues in an entirely new way. Bravo!
@FictitiousCtrlGames
@FictitiousCtrlGames 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see a sitcom about J.Jonah Jameson set in the mcu. Tom Holland could lend his voice as spider-man while a different actor plays him under the suit. I would like to see a small budget mcu sitcom. Limited sets and laugh tracks. Okay, maybe not the laugh track.
@AMReed8
@AMReed8 6 жыл бұрын
No laugh tracks! However, a 3J sitcom would entertain an audience.
@wuzzen97
@wuzzen97 6 жыл бұрын
You convinced me, Scott! 😅 Btw., since you were asking on Twitter: You really shouldn‘t worry about mentioning the CCA or Fredric Wertham a lot, since those are important topics in comicbook history.
@kaiwilliams141
@kaiwilliams141 6 жыл бұрын
Just started the video, scott you are still my favorite youtuber. A nerdsync video is always an amazing gift. This is now part of my official headcannon.
@ReallyRandomRants
@ReallyRandomRants 6 жыл бұрын
I've literally been refreshing the page for the past 3 hours to watch this video!
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
You're a trooper.
@plcthelegacy4131
@plcthelegacy4131 6 жыл бұрын
It's strange, as A kid I thought J. Jonah Jamison's personality was too over the top but now for the past 3 years, I've seen people that make him look tamed.
@porygon-q2619
@porygon-q2619 6 жыл бұрын
Sal makes an awesome Spider-Man.
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
He crushed it!
@shawnandrews8161
@shawnandrews8161 6 жыл бұрын
Nerdsync. That is my first word. I've been watching your videos for about 2-3 years now and I wanted to remind you what you said in a very old video. You said that even if Nerdsync was dead, which you would continue to make videos as long as we were leaving great comments. I love your channel and will be here till the end. (Which I hope will not come). Please keep your promise. Love you, nerds.
@hughmungus1501
@hughmungus1501 6 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, Jameson has a point. Its kinda common for heros to become villans in comics so of couse he dosent trust spidey. It makes total sense
@spidertaco1924
@spidertaco1924 6 жыл бұрын
Very impressed, i don’t know if you edit your own videos but either way the production value on this and a lot of recent videos are amazing. Great job, and good luck. Can t wait till the next video
@eqs1003
@eqs1003 5 жыл бұрын
RIP. Stan lee 1922-2018
@Tristan-sr1ek
@Tristan-sr1ek 6 жыл бұрын
Are you sure that Stan Lee wasn't looking into the future, and basing J. Jonah Jameson on the owner of Nerdsync, Scott? I think it's likely as we saw in Guardians of the Galaxy, and Nerdsync's video, he can travel through space and time. Assuming that everything I see on KZbin and Cinemas are automatically factual. Wait, does that mean that Nerdsync kitchen will be returning?
@ThelastShepherd.
@ThelastShepherd. 6 жыл бұрын
I love how you do your videos it has a lot of emotion behind it. Keep it up✊🏿
@kellercorrield7733
@kellercorrield7733 5 жыл бұрын
I still need that senate hearing video. I always love when you do long rants on comic book history
@josephgonzalez9342
@josephgonzalez9342 6 жыл бұрын
That was great! I really liked the Patreon bit too!!
@XxIkeWittxX
@XxIkeWittxX 6 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is why I love this channel.
@benpebbles4111
@benpebbles4111 6 жыл бұрын
I stopped anime for this so you know how important you are to my poor little heart, Scott! Heart me!!!
@infernalbaka557
@infernalbaka557 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Stone was it Tokyo ghoul:Re
@benpebbles4111
@benpebbles4111 6 жыл бұрын
oreki houtarou Nah. Log Horizon.
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
You have been hearted.
@benpebbles4111
@benpebbles4111 6 жыл бұрын
NerdSync Day has been made.
@JohnnyTemptation
@JohnnyTemptation 6 жыл бұрын
NS! You mentioned in a video that your comic collection is migrating almost exclusively to digital...was wondering, has this changed since you mentioned it? Has it been reinforced ? Could you do a video on this and why?
@raggarharry9765
@raggarharry9765 6 жыл бұрын
Awsome video! I did not notice any glithes in the end.
@alexmelillo1247
@alexmelillo1247 6 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video. Keep it up Scott!
@Vivat_Veritas
@Vivat_Veritas 6 жыл бұрын
Okay so i've just been bingewatching these videos, and your sheer humour and energy just works so well with this whole format! I known next to nothing about comic books (most of my knowledge comes from wikipedia wormholes and movies) so this is really cool to hear everything people who actually know what theyre talking about have to say!! subscribed, naturally. keep up the good work!
@DougPalumbo
@DougPalumbo 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the channel!
@kidanarchy2105
@kidanarchy2105 6 жыл бұрын
You should probably talk about Frank Miller's incredibly intentional parody of Werthem in The Dark Knight Returns.
@DonmyGoldensun
@DonmyGoldensun 6 жыл бұрын
7:12 I'm pretty sure that's not JJJ. I believe that's a detective trying to sort out who Spider-Man really is. He later goes to JJJ claiming that he's Spider-Man. I remember reading the comic when I was a kid and that image was the cover. Also the window says "Private Eye". Great video, though! Always love me some more Spider-Man info!
@davidziegler7604
@davidziegler7604 6 жыл бұрын
Listen here, any casual spider-man fan can tell you Jameson’s format was originally Now magazine not the DB. They made him the editor of the DB later on even though the DB did exist before Jameson in Fantastic Four #2
@tubbdoose
@tubbdoose 6 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee used to have a KZbin series called “Stan’s Rants.” The way he talked and his attitude always made me draw similarities to JJJ. It is sad the show was discontinued.
@ParkerGabriel
@ParkerGabriel 6 жыл бұрын
He also had a "SoapBox" in the Marvel titles, published in the "Bullpen Bulletins."
@mrscarbs1979
@mrscarbs1979 6 жыл бұрын
1 video in. SUBSCRIBED
@freezinginferno2106
@freezinginferno2106 6 жыл бұрын
great video, keep it up broski
@sdm47
@sdm47 3 жыл бұрын
I know there’s no comic equivalent to this which is probably why it’s not really recognized today but I think we need Marvel to revisit the curse of Rava story Think about it J. Jonah Jameson framed for murder with Spider-Man having to prove his innocence, a cursed artifact connected to a hardcore religious cult with a telekinetically powered leader Just one of those things would be a lot of fun but we got a story with both
@leviphipps2462
@leviphipps2462 6 жыл бұрын
The Jameson-Wertham connection is something that is obvious in the "Why didn't I think of that" kind of way. But something much less relevant to the video. Despite Jackman, Evans, and even Holland's connections to their characters, J.K. Simmons is the only actor in superhero media who is truly synonymous with their character. I can't hear his voice without busting out my best "Bring me pictures of Spider-Man!" Zootopia, Whiplash, the last season of Gravity Falls, even Farmer's Insurance commercials are effected.
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 6 жыл бұрын
Levi Phipps you can add Kung fu panda to that list as kai
@pluto9766
@pluto9766 5 жыл бұрын
"Slander is spoken, in print it's liable" Lines to live by
@treyolathecrayola2433
@treyolathecrayola2433 6 жыл бұрын
I think it could be both. Inspiration can come from so many different and wild things. And they don’t have to be one source either. Two people who are being hard and rude, could easily blend together. Both causing harm just in different scales
@TerryTurner
@TerryTurner 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual.👍😎
@kaiba-boi4256
@kaiba-boi4256 5 жыл бұрын
5:31 damn I guess there must be something wrong with me because I’ve read dozens of violent comics since I was a kid and the worst thing I’ve ever done my whole life was trespass an abandoned house
@jakemcintosh6385
@jakemcintosh6385 6 жыл бұрын
So great to have some NerdSync & Comic POP crossover hope to see more
@milohargadine1601
@milohargadine1601 5 жыл бұрын
I think Ditko wrote the original plot with Lee in mind and Lee wrote the actual narrative as an allegory for the CCA
@KuraiSensei
@KuraiSensei 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be ironic if Stan Lee actually worked for Fredric Wertham as an intern or something?
@benb3316
@benb3316 2 жыл бұрын
They developed Jameson as a character beyond an "Anti-Perry White" to avoid a Shazam lawsuit issue. I think the Wertham thing is a stretch but quite applicable. IMO the latter development 80s into 00s was perfect. The sort of thing modern politics makes impossible of someone different from you still being respectable. Jameson had personal reasons to distrust those wearing masks, even though Peter did his. Then the Civil War thing where the decades waited moment came - then after his nervous breakdown - "You know, my Father said that an enemy is someone who can kill you but your friends are those that can really HURT you...." - because to him it was Peter Parker betraying him. Haven't read it since the "Woke" movement got dominant early 10s so don't know or care what they slurped up and regurgitate, but it was a really good solid line for a long time.
@JohnnyStormRules1961
@JohnnyStormRules1961 6 жыл бұрын
Cool! I Want More Videos Like This!
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Okay!
@IncanTV
@IncanTV 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Wertham sounds like Dr. Zola, too.
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 6 жыл бұрын
IncanTV in other word wertham is a member of American Nazi party to be more precise the German American bund #werthamthenazi
@kayakerdude3727
@kayakerdude3727 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought Jameson represented the editor of Marvel/Timely comics - A guy named Martin. Something tells me the guys on the floor like Stan, Steve, and Jack Kirby would chuckle about discussions and meetings with their editor and decided to create Jameson as a parody on the guy. Everybody talks about their bosses - It was Martin who told Stan that Spider-Man was a dumb idea cause people hate spiders and that teenagers as the hero makes no sense. After Spidey's success in Amazing Fantasy's final issue he called Stan to the office and basically denied he hated it and shared in the birth of the idea by saying "Stan.. you know that Spider-Man character we both loved so much? How about you and Steve do a series on him?" It sounds exactly like something Jameson would do and say to Peter Parker lol.
@Estarfigam
@Estarfigam 6 жыл бұрын
I think a little of both, maybe in Stan's mind he wanted to poke fun at himself, but deep down he was lashing out at Wertham. "Hitler was a beginner compared to comics?" I wonder what seduced Albert Fish in his horrific actions, a man who Wertham did analyze himself and died before Superman debuted....
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 6 жыл бұрын
Everette Bradfute I think wertham should be saying that to himself I mean after all he is a probable member of the bund
@Snikit
@Snikit 6 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Nerdsync nails it!
@YoshyRyuDCC
@YoshyRyuDCC 6 жыл бұрын
Great intro, already diggin' this video.
@brianrebmann676
@brianrebmann676 6 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Very interesting topic. I enjoyed learning about the origin of JJ Jamison and it would make sense that the character could be based on Dr. Wortham
@sandernielsen8018
@sandernielsen8018 5 жыл бұрын
There's one thing about J Jonah Jameson that I can't understand, in one issue there an old classmate of Peter Parker named Arnold Wiederman (or something like that I can't remember) come to Peter for help because Peter knows Tony Stark and can there for arrange a meeting. Arnold gets the funding he needs for his body armour project but refuse to listen to Peter about not testing the compound. Arnold test the compound on himself and gets bonded to the body armour and end up blaming Peter. Peter blåmes himself but when he's clinging to a wall blaming himself for not stopping Arnold a little blue fairy shows up and snap out of it, the thing is the little blue fairy have the face of Jameseon. Did they do that as a sort of ironic twist ?
@JinchK
@JinchK 6 жыл бұрын
Man I haven't watched a NerdSync video in such a long time.
@BellowDGaming
@BellowDGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I also remember Stan Lee wanting to play the role on JJ or triple J on the Sam Ramey Spiderman, but he said he was too old and just did a cameo.
@danielnodland4072
@danielnodland4072 6 жыл бұрын
I started watching your videos in december. I don't read comics, other than old Donald Duck comics. I'm not really interested in any cinematic universes. I know different comic heroes, but rarely watch any movies about them and I don't have a favorite. I just like your voice, and your passion. Keep at it.
@windwind3170
@windwind3170 6 жыл бұрын
Hey NerdSync(or anybody else who could provide me with the answer) i've got a question about comic book censorship: How was European comics were affected by this did they had simillar censorship laws or something?
@Josh_Hammond
@Josh_Hammond 6 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting metaphor with JJ and Frederic though I can see and agree Frederic's concern about the youth and comics even if there wasnt any evidence to support his claims but yeah this guy did almost ruin comic book industry but ill say JJ is an interesting character and heck i just thinking i can kinda see JJ as Lex Luthor and Lex says Superman is a menace
@anthonydinardo9333
@anthonydinardo9333 6 жыл бұрын
Great video also super Carlin cameo
@davidsalinas6393
@davidsalinas6393 6 жыл бұрын
This is a really dramatic video. Amazing.
@filipbojanowski1299
@filipbojanowski1299 6 жыл бұрын
I think that both stories have some merit. It's possible that both are partially true. Maybe JJJ started just as a pardy of Stan but during a process of writting he became a parallel to Wertham.
@bourwaz
@bourwaz 6 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video
@cretinousmartyr3522
@cretinousmartyr3522 6 жыл бұрын
Yay! Another great video.
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