Nerve Agents (1964)

[@dusty13b]

Imagine being the poor guy that had to smell the different nerve agents to see if they were odorless. "Nah sergeant... this one smells like fruity bubble gum."

[@jgedutis]

This one doesn't smell but it makes my face numb

[@LiD0349]

… they would get that info from survivors and observers of previous attacks… tf

[@dusty13b]

@@LiD0349 nah theyd totally test it out on some private. Voluntold to snort a line of agent orange.

[@theturbotickler]

@@dusty13b "ay boot, come over here."

[@anonyfamous42]

They gave him the antidote each time

[@Pllayer064]

8:04 Very few people know this but Stanley Kubrick was behind the filming of this demonstration and he was so dissatisfied with the acting that he had the entire platoon repeat the scene for 12 hours straight until one soldier finally got the acting right, killing 68 soldiers with a nerve agent in the process. Outstanding dedication by US military.

[@pumpkoi5935]

@M N sarcasm

[@ishowwalk1073]

So they did not die

[@jgedutis]

2:23 Well... 100,000 tons of nerve agent sounds like a completely reasonable amount of chemical weapons to have

[@dervolldrosten6320]

In case of state of emergency. Backup plan :)

[@TheGrindcorps]

More reasonable than the amount of drug resistant plague, anthrax and Marburg the USSR hade(Russia has?)

[@Sodacanned]

Is this sarcasm

[@jgedutis]

@@Sodacanned It sure is 😆

[@Sodacanned]

@@jgedutis ok ty for clarifying :)

[@MrUltrAdaman]

Ahh yes if you detect coma or cessation of breathing “stop breathing, mask immediately, take atropine” Though maybe a little late at that point 🤷‍♂️

[@ravestyle]

poor goat

[@karolk.6612]

Pot head

[@fedoragamer1923]

Lol

[@draj8590]

seriously, that was awful

[@dontoni8041]

Humans are awful. Im a vegeterian now

[@nottoday4866]

@@dontoni8041 Vegetables have feelings too, murderer.

[@norwegianwiking]

@geonerd 1950's "HAZMAT" constituted pretty much mask, jacket hood and wind mitts. Button up uniform and close of as best you can. It's pretty certain that if the cold war went hot at this point, battlefield survival would have been measured in minutes, and the war would have been the shortest ever.

[@melissab1078]

Rip goat

[@dervolldrosten6320]

F

[@johnnydugas1970]

F

[@abstractcolors.]

F

[@donlove3741]

Where's the mint jelly!

[@pinochets1fan177]

Better than be fed to a T-rex.

[@azntranc3951]

"If you get splashed ..." More like "If you had the entire thing dumped on you..."

[@dervolldrosten6320]

I think it would be over for that unfortunate person

[@peterfruchtig5334]

@@dervolldrosten6320 This scene is just propaganda to give soldiers the feeling, that they can survive an attack with nerve agents. The reality is that a great amount of soldiers would get contact with a deadly amount before beeing able to put on your equipment. The whole video is very optimistic.

[@nottoday4866]

@@peterfruchtig5334 Handling early nerve agents in the 60's was fairly tricky, if it was a binary agent the mixing may not have been perfect, many munitions had to be stored carefully, and broke down quite quickly. Wind or rain could decrease effectiveness and total dose. Accuracy was also piss poor. Decade old sarin fired inaccurately on a wet windy seaside day results in a less than optimal strike In the same way one could accuse the helmet they are wearing of being hopelessly optimistic, it would do nothing against most shells or bullets. Obviously, a direct hit will generally kill you. But it may be no more effective than even normal high explosive if you have taken proper precautions. I suspect the latter resuscitation bit is to discourage soldiers from shooting those who are convulsing from a nerve gas attack. It is a highly unpleasant thing to watch and would make you feel quite powerless. The fraction of the people who survive the convulsions would have few long-lasting effects though. Thinking about it the most likely case would have been an ammunition stockpile brewing up which had nerve agent in it. A classic case where even basic precautions and knowledge can save a lot of lives.

[@peterfruchtig5334]

@@nottoday4866 Yeah, got your point. It's always better to try than to do nothing.

[@hilariousd7998]

Great advice about continuing your mission.

[@THE_MR_MAN]

yep

[@je25ff]

What a sick species we are.

[@elusivekluwz6757]

John Smith I know right, we’re fuckin rad

[@vaclavjebavy5118]

Chemical weapons are very rarely used. After a certain point, everyone feared that if they used chemical weapons, a retaliation would come to them.

[@dervolldrosten6320]

Today I think it's more cruel

[@dervolldrosten6320]

@@vaclavjebavy5118 nanobots are more silent and effective

[@vaclavjebavy5118]

@@dervolldrosten6320 NANOMACHINES, SON

[@popsalot1169]

3:30 My mate was just eating grass for christ sake

[@jhaz89]

Why is it that the guys voice is the exact same in every video made before 1960

[@Messerjockel]

thanks, now i know how i could defend against 1960s chemicals with1960s milspec equipment

[@isaac-vb1ng]

It’s actually the same exact process we just have better masks and more effective clothing

[@ramir332]

5:33 I was like, "Don't fucking drop the jar homie.." :(

[@carsonp.7009]

you really think it is nerve agents? it was probably saline or water

[@ATLTraveler]

You seriously think there is nerve agent in there? You are dumb as fuck, that's water homie...

[@dervolldrosten6320]

Same yo

[@dervolldrosten6320]

@@carsonp.7009 Would be likely, but if not.... I would be frightened

[@yetanother9127]

8:35 "[Your mask] is the best in the world", he says, regarding the notoriously crappy M17 mask . . .

[@kingofthetigers]

Wasn't as crappy then.

[@yetanother9127]

@@kingofthetigers Even at the time, it was recognized that having to take the mask off to change filters was a pretty big design flaw.

[@alexanderlawson1649]

The nightmare, that still exists. Nerve agent, what a sick fucking World.

[@jamesluck2969]

3 guys de masking is the definition of grab a few lower enlisted for the task

[@BaggnWaggn]

Usually the cbrns recommend the chappelin lol, don't have to disarm him and he's usually the least mission essential

[@xusmico187]

love the board stiff starched creased fatigues in the field

[@nottoday4866]

Or that they had to hold on to the helmets, I mean seriously it's nerve gas! Just drop your bloody helmet and pick it up after! No way it is worth the risk of a fumble to keep hold of the helmet

[@lioslo81]

Thanks for posting! Very interesting material. :-)

[@bobxoneill]

Walking around in MOPP 4 is a bad day even in training.

[@TruckingToPlease]

Loved going to Osan AFB on a Navy F-14A detachment from Atsugi Japan. The entire base at MOPP 4. Charcoal and sucking rubber. We squids walking out of the Class Six with a case of Grolsch bottles in short sleeved dungarees.

[@bobxoneill]

@@TruckingToPlease Explain? You were TDY or something? I can see h that causing a training mixup. Local training didn’t include incoming TDY crews. Wait…was this MOPP event training?

[@rma3899]

CPR in 60's. I really enjoy these videos. Thank you!

[@THE_MR_MAN]

CPR in nerve agent time

[@brettjohnson5545]

I wonder how effective drawing the arms up like that is?

[@rma3899]

@@brettjohnson5545 I bet it increases chest expansion since the diaphragm is paralyzed

[@sanelb1147]

Very soothing background sound when I have tinitus

[@TurgeonFan77132]

Looks like the atropine injectors are very similar to the Epi-Pens that people with severe food allergies carry with them.

[@nottoday4866]

The autoinjector technology which EpiPens use would likely not have taken off the way it did if the military had not ordered massive quantities of them for CBRN.

[@PatrickSantos-sn8ox]

And Mustard Gas was the discovery of cancer medicine.

[@dervolldrosten6320]

Wouldn't mouth to mouth be deadly, if the man poisoned?

[@joergmaass]

Yes

[@nottoday4866]

Depends on the quantity in the mouth. Nerve agents cause uncontrollable drooling and occasionally vomiting, although studies are not conclusive it may be that you are more likely to drown before your lungs lock up. With the step where they remove mucus from the mouth, having already taken the antidote and considering that it has already been diluted by the persons own secretions, it seems that the threat from mouth to mouth is minimal. (Unless of course if the guy mouth-washed with it or something)

[@SandwichConsumer]

In the start of the video,it says team fortress 3,even they were anticipating it

[@supermarkable]

4:57 Me late night in PokiMane Stream

[@osadere]

Tried to make a joke but yet failed.

[@CHOPERUS23]

Great, so there's tonnes of Artillery shells at the bottom of the sea somewhere filled with Nerve Agent 😏

[@zaikura-chan6949]

Exactly what I was thinking. 😒

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Theres a massive storage facility up on the Columbia River that contains massive amounts of VX-Nerve Agent, a Hybridized Rabies Hemoglobin virus and vector of ebola and what I believe is plague serum(Black Plague). All within 1000’ of a Continental Waterway that serves millions.

[@nottoday4866]

Oh yes. Fortunately, Tabin breaks down fairly quickly in salt water though.

[@SRT92]

I started getting epileptic watching this....

[@dervolldrosten6320]

Fr?

[@dynamagon]

haha

[@SRT92]

@@dervolldrosten6320 yes seriously lol

[@SRT92]

@@dynamagon yea that’s not good at all lol

[@melatonin1371]

The squirrel in the tree: *Violently Convulsing*

[@nottoday4866]

Don't forget uncontrollable defecation and urination too!

[@rzr2ffe325]

No gloves in a pretend nerve agent environment. That seems like a smart way to train

[@semplar2007]

Well, they may have had reason for that, like, for being able to operate quickly.

[@dervolldrosten6320]

It is slower through the skin and you need to get injected. Could have had reasons back then

[@dervolldrosten6320]

@@BurntPlaydoh well, shit...

[@dervolldrosten6320]

@Mondo Duke damn :(

[@donlove3741]

@@BurntPlaydoh vx isn't being discussed. Only V

[@TheBishop12]

Humans, you scary

[@quarkedbutt3957]

They really did Ole boy like that lol. Just smacked his ass with real nerve agents

[@Mxsmanic]

A number of nerve agents can be absorbed through the skin, so full suits would be required. Maybe they didn't know at the time, or maybe skin exposures would be low enough in toxicity (when indirect) to not require suits. I don't really know.

[@SANYIIIIIIIIIII]

Like, 1-2 mg(0.001 g) would be enough to kill through skin

[@nottoday4866]

They did know, you can see the full suits in 9:38. This film seems to be more aimed at low quality, old or aerosol deployments. Note that even after you get the mask on they tell you to use the antidote straight away.

[@jaxonbruce7827]

3:45 you ar welcome

[@TwiztedHumor]

Wow, I never knew atropine was prepared for mass use by US (and allied?) soldiers! I thought you were just expected to die if you werent already wearing protective gear.

[@mayamaya2068]

With this instructional video life expectancy would be a higher percentage of course with Atropine

[@1234usmarinecorpsify]

The wors gases ever i think are mustard gas anthrax and vx

[@RealRealist515]

1234usmarinecorpsify VX by FAR

[@dervolldrosten6320]

A fart after eating rotten meat.

[@donlove3741]

Taco Bell burrito gas!🤢

[@anwiseru9064]

sniff me

[@entitledbobcat]

GB is the most fatal nerve agent I believe

[@mayo_poppins]

12:35 *that's a big ass needle*

[@nottoday4866]

I winced! I can see why they built the autoinjector!

[@Froggot]

2:40 100,000 tons of nerve gas left to rot at the bottom of the ocean? Alrighty then. Also, poor goat. Wtf is wrong with us as a species?

[@dervolldrosten6320]

xD

[@donlove3741]

You say while munching a...... ?

[@LOL60345]

@@donlove3741 yeah. these comments are peak hipocrisy, its mindblowing.

[@xarv368]

You eat meat, so I dunno what you are crying about, animals suffer far more than this goat ever did in meat factory of hell.

[@nottoday4866]

Fortunately for once, Tabin breaks down fairly quickly in salty environments. As for your second comment, is it not remarkable that you, as a member of our species cares enough for the welfare of a goat to be upset? I see that as a very positive sign.

[@makeomengreatagain]

Discovery channel reporter be like: this man will now die

[@honja6528]

6:53 tiny ears

[@MsJinkerson]

nerve agent in the oceans no wonder the earth is pissed aff

[@dervolldrosten6320]

"better insecticide"

[@LOL60345]

those pesky pests

[@markanthonyclark9981]

i remember watching this in 1971 at nco school in ft. benning. i thought then, and still do, that the goat scene was way too much and unneeded to explain what nerve agents did. the goat was probably used in the development and testing of a nerve agent and not done just for this film, but it was still not necessary to include in making this. i find it unusual that the germans, when all seemed lost, did not deploy nerve gas against their enemies, american or soviet, yet the americans killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, (men, women, and even children and allied pows), in japan with atomic weapons while winning the war. un-freaking believable.

[@bodyno3158]

It is, it's meant to scare the shit out of people so grunts would take CBRN protection seriously, throwing out big words like salivation, lacrimation, urination, defecation is less effective than show people how a horrible death you will encounter if you don't follow the insturctions. And people are getting rid of them not because they suddenly feel bad about this or something, it's because nerve agents are obsolete in warfare, it does little to a modern army, everybody knows how to deal with that shit, mask on, 2-PAM in, get your ass outta that deadly air, boom, done, on the contrary, nukes are still effective - anyway it's a big bang. Today, the only purpose for nerve agent is, to massacre civilians.

[@TheGrindcorps]

Poor goat. He didn’t deserve that. He had nothing to do with any of this. Couldn’t they have used someone sentenced to death or something? Still very cruel but at least that person did something to be executed. What did that poor goat ever do?

[@SMGJohn]

You eat meat, so I dunno what you are crying about, animals suffer far more than this goat ever did in meat factory of hell.

[@nottoday4866]

@@SMGJohn I think Abrahamic theology does not posit that goats have souls, so it is unlikely that goats go to hell at all.

[@nottoday4866]

The Germans did use nerve gas on their enemies, it is just that they only chose enemies who could not retaliate. (POW's Concentration camp inmates, ect) Equality the Japanese cheerfully used chemical weapons in China. They knew that the Western allies had stocked up on vast quantities of chemical weapons, issued gas masks to every man, women and child and had far more capability to deliver them. By the time Germany got desperate enough to use chemical weapons, they had far more to lose by using them than they stood to gain. As for the Atomic Weapons, they are a whole other can of worms, although I do think their use probably saved lives, vs an invasion and operation starvation. I do not believe that was high on their users list of priorities though.

[@johnhehir508]

Germans never used tabun nerve gas,but allies had ships full of gas and could have deployed them having air superiority,

[@DynamicSeq]

Nope... The allied did not have any nerve gas... It was a total surprise after the war... If hitler had used nerve gas, he would have won the war...

[@drsevrin100]

great video mate.

[@jastrapper190]

I like how the officer just walks by the nerve agent casualty… no big deal… I’ve got “ officer things” to do… 🤦‍♂

[@andrewfphoto]

There are plenty of child-killers and murder-rapists that could be used instead of innocent animals!

[@dervolldrosten6320]

No, they are the ones that are in charge. Would not be in their interest.

[@fratersol]

@@dervolldrosten6320 very true

[@LOL60345]

most innocent animals would eat you in a heartbeat if they had to

[@andrewfphoto]

@@LOL60345 - most? Lisr them...

[@nottoday4866]

You forget, this is the 60's and justice is based on your "good character". Think on how many people were later proven innocent on DNA evidence.

[@slaveNo-4028]

so, they just dumped all the nerve gas in the ocean? sounds like a great idea.. fuck I hate humanity

[@auctal4625]

I was thinking the same. What if in case one of the tank leaks? May be a 500 litre Nerve agent is enough to contaminate a whole ocean maybe

[@bristolfashion4421]

I'm thinking of the journalist running around in a noddie suit that didn't fit anywhere, in Generation Kill...

[@ramir332]

he could have butterfingers :3

[@timoakes450]

is GA -TABUN???

[@najibmaroc4843]

💀💀💀💀💀 Drone-Hunting VX With Laser and Recording video 🗿

[@forgottendreamteam]

Alternative title : "how to survive a taco fart"

[@G-Man-half-life]

Taco 🌮 is a food not a fart

[@sara212005]

So what would happen if it was to somehow get open and contaminate the water?

[@yetanother9127]

Then don't drink the water.

[@zvisger]

@@yetanother9127 all it takes is touching your skin. Just a tiny bit will do you in.

[@hoping5135]

@@yetanother9127 bruh

[@nottoday4866]

Most nerve gases of the time broke down fairly quickly, water increased the speed they broke down. Of course, some lovely soviet scientists fixed that drawback for some new types in the 80's. Because y'know why the hell not.

[@kingofthetigers]

​@@hoping5135 novachok is probably either fake or exaggerated. It's supposedly 8x deadlier than VX, so 2 mg of novachok. Should be enough to kill. Yet 2 people survived being poisoned by it. That and if it were real all of the former USSR should have it. Not just Russia. So I think novachok is Russian propaganda.

[@johnnydugas1970]

Terrible muzzle discipline, filmed in a lumber farm instead of a real forrest, and they killed an adorable goat. But atleast the guy cut the sleeve with a kabar so 10/10 best informational film

[@Screwby_Jones6200]

Rather have goat die so we learn how to detect and possibly cure or stabilize someone(depending on the chemical)than some poor soldier or citizen in the real situation. We had dogs die in space yet people accept it for the betterment of humanity.

[@fedoragamer1923]

I wondered what does nerve gas means now I am here

[@burtonanderson1780]

how did they find out what it smelled like?

[@nottoday4866]

The lab normally stinks of it

[@droppedthekidsoffatthepool3257]

I can’t watch the poor Goat!

[@jchrg2336]

Shock troops we have not gotten to the best part yet

[@FerrilEwok]

Wow how procedure has changed...

[@dervolldrosten6320]

What you mean?

[@PatrickSantos-sn8ox]

Theres a piny note to the Air.....Soman!......bubble gum is Tabun or Sarin.?

[@kodakwhite870]

If you experience these effects STOP BREATHING 😂😂😂😂

[@nottoday4866]

No, they are just clumsily saying "hold your breath till you put your mask on" A good lungful of that could be your last, and the bodies automatic response to alarm (Like let's say realising you have come under gas attack) is to hyperventilate.

[@bahtiyarnazarov7821]

козу жалко

[@carsonp.7009]

It is a shame that Jeff Quinteys channel got taken down, he had the same film

[@jgedutis]

Why did his channel get taken down?

[@carsonp.7009]

@@jgedutis some bullcrap about using a song, that was in the public domain, meaning he could have used it with no strings attached, but the bot that scans youtube decides to take down over one hundred videos of priceless history, but lets child pornography stay up, youtube is very crooked

[@jgedutis]

@@carsonp.7009 I wouldn't be surprised if Susan Wojcicki is personal friends with the company or individual that owns the rights to the song

[@carsonp.7009]

@@jgedutis i wouldn't say that she knew someone that owned the song, most old films that used songs are now in the public domain, and later on from the 80's to 2000's films typically used royalty free music, Jeff almost never uploaded anything newer than 60's films, so if there was a song in there, and it was indeed copyright claimed, and Jeff used it by accident, he should have gotten a strike, and not threatened for his whole channel being taken down, which sucks, double standards are the beginning of censorship, so i wouldn't say Susan knew the owners of the copyright, but i wouldn't doubt that she definitely had something to do with it

[@dervolldrosten6320]

@@carsonp.7009 This is the 21 century

[@melatonin1371]

Fish: "Why this water spic-"

[@MrEthanhines]

Do we still give atropine? Do we have anything better now?

[@RealRealist515]

MrEthanhines yeah, prayer. That’s all that MAY work if you touch anything with VX

[@nottoday4866]

They can stability mix pralidoxime chloride in the same syringe these days. I don't think anything directly better has been introduced though. There are also a fair few drugs they have which can control the convulsions which they did not have back then either.

[@fantom5894]

I was wondering about that too. Aren't full body suits + masks recommended for surviving nerve agent exposure?

[@peterfruchtig5334]

Yeah, and you need to put them on before you get attacked. The idea behind chemical attacks is that you use delivery methods that create extremly high concentrations in a very short time, so the victims got no time to put their equipment on. The desired concentration is deadly ammount in one breath. Thats why chemical weapons are used in multiple rocket launchers, bombs and balistic missles with chemical cluster munition.

[@nottoday4866]

Imagine everybody trying to carry a full body suit, on their back, for a 100 mile plus march, just on the off chance that there may be nerve agents. At that point your opponent has already fulfilled his objective. Like how full bullet proof Armour is considered impractical to carry and wear, full nerve agent proof suits are considered impractical to carry, at least in the 60's

[@Cactijellyfish]

A respitory disease yes, but still a disease.

[@hosskatt-8317]

Know your past or you’re bound to repeat it.

[@dynamagon]

shut up

[@videosXyouXwant]

I have a runny nose 😢

[@slycarlo8747]

Looked like VX gas was used on that goat

[@yaserthe1]

Thanos had a point.

[@_BirdOfGoodOmen]

I'm drunk and don't want to sit thru the whole thing whens the goat get killed so I can skip ahead

[@_BirdOfGoodOmen]

At around 4:15 fuck man I feel really bad for the goat I shouldnt have seen this 😢😢😢😢

[@fantom5894]

14:59 Still using the M14 I see.

[@geonerd]

Why aren't these people in suits wearing gloves? LOL!

[@beatlejuice7755]

But who used these on me? And how? Why? Was it the Navy? Or the CIA?

[@anonyfamous42]

Strongest army in the world

[@jerrygaber6150]

Good to know. Where can civilians get emergency atropine? Do paint respirators work?

[@tazman572]

Paint respirators are useless. Ex RCAF here.

[@DIGITALVHS]

Nightshade is the classic source of atropine, good luck being safe with that though.

[@Jack_spence]

Team Fortress 3?

[@azad7907]

how i can get vx nerve agent :))

[@dervolldrosten6320]

Amazon? Haha

[@dervolldrosten6320]

And I don't think you really want that shit :o

[@ornithomancy]

bros got a lot of tissues in his mouth huh

[@THE_MR_MAN]

rip

[@jchrg2336]

If the launching of a rocket would yank a bit every time at the orbit of earth, a deep and big enough hole in the earthwould atracked some type of mass out of the universe (milky way system) ...just keep digging and working that mine Russia

[@lukeforsyth792]

It's mass that causes gravity. A rocket has mass but a hole doesn't.

[@efd_officialyt4328]

totally not war crimes

[@slit555]

@Mxsmanic Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[@winterg.9108]

Oh hell naw... the poor animals that had to die because of their testing. This is so awful.

[@nottoday4866]

This was not testing, this was a demonstration.

[@fratersol]

Poor goat

[@shhjeffreys729]

Covid

[@SV-pv4pv]

Great, Russia is thinking on using these

[@hoping5135]

Казахи на месте

[@nicolasjonasson4820]

creepy af

[@RGBRacing]

Mad propaganda to make the grunts feel safe. See how they don’t have any gloves....yeah they would be dead

[@nottoday4866]

Bear in mind all the people in Tokyo who are not dead, If it lands in your lap, you are probably dead (small chance the nerve gas has gone off) but if you have a low dose or it is in the wind, and you have a good chance if you have taken the antidote.

[@LiD0349]

Imagine being an anti masker soldier back in both those days AND today 😂

[@mr.stately9205]

They would have used them instead of the poor goat lol.

[@silverplays871]

Use this on americans

[@svellah4388]

Poor goat, this is disgusting