Net Zero Ready Crawlspace Floor Framing

[@jimrowland8310]

I started work working for my dad’s construction company and one of the first things he said to me was if you learnt something new today you’ve had a good day, I only say this because I have been framing houses for over 30 years and I just watched your video and I’ve just learnt something new, so thank you, you guys are awesome framers 😊

[@markdalton55]

Thanks for this. I asked Tim about squash blocks in hangers for the engineered joist. They were the Simpson IUS version. Next time I read something on AF IG account, which I follow, there he is, answering my question. Apparently SimpsonStrongTie had to design their IUS hangers with a “bite” for the bottom chord of the I joist. Details, details, details, baby! ❤️👏🏻👏🏻

[@2chipped]

The mindset of learning ,is to accept new ways...instead of rejecting just because they are not the status quo. Do you want to be correct,or do you want to get the task correct. Ego gets in the way very often. I read a book about the ww2 American soldier, and one point stood out to me. When bringing a problem to an officer,the soldier was to bring 3 solutions as well. I have learned a few things on my own maybe 10%,the other 90 has come from listening and watching others.

[@wrinkledasian5206]

This makes people who do repair work in the crawl space down the road very happy.

[@acraftman2823]

I usually don't comment but just wanted to say I have been a carpenter my whole career my first job out of the military as a cub paid $2.25 hour I got a job as a Union framer started in 82 at $18 ph and was really happy about that and just finished the step foundation for my third forever shop (I am 67 and am pretty sure this will absolutely be the last one especially on a hill with a parking slab) I came across your channel a few years ago and really enjoy your way of explaining things and your sense of humor .We always used hand drives I still remember building apartment complexes on slab in Houston in the summer with the first floor walls up and r-max sheathing it would get around 125+ degrees that actually wasn't a lot of fun but I learned a lot. By the time I was done with my four year apprenticeship I was a finish carpenter lol! I then went on to cabinet making and remodeling, I retired but it's not for me so I am still doing Kitchen and bath work . One of my Kitchens made it into FHB Kitchens and Baths Issue Back in the 90's, I was pretty stoked. It's been a good career I have rarely been unemployed have had a lot of fun haven't made a ton of money working for builders but have done well using the skill set I have gained, every home I have owned I have more than doubled the price of what I paid for it and that has made a big difference. Now you see why it's best that I don't comment too often lol.Peace.

[@ralphchristiansen5795]

I’ve been watching you and your team over a year now, and it never gets old. I miss seeing quality work, and it’s hard to find anymore. Thanks for taking the time to teach our younger audience, and stay true to the trade. Keep up the great work! Watching your videos brings me back to my days of swinging a hammer and just the little things that make such a difference in the quality of a home.

[@MadRat70]

I'm in my 50s and did a lot of sheds. But wow, its nice to see a true craftsman do his thing. Great video.

[@kitsurubami]

Beautiful work! I hope many generations of people enjoy this quality home!

[@MatiasV_PNW]

Great work, thanks for “paying it forward” - hope we get a chance to teach the next generation some day

[@wrinkledasian5206]

Love your attitude. It's a challenging industry to maintain a sense of humor because everyone is budget and schedule conscious. Usually people pass that pressure down and around.

[@jimgeelan5949]

I’m coming up on 50 as a carpenter/ joiner in England and here I am relaxing watching a bloke miles away nailing timber 😊

[@TheoneandonlyRAH]

Love what you had to say about us all learning together on social media ❤️❤️

[@alexnuusila]

The “I LOVE YOU” at the end had me in stitches. Can’t thank you enough for all the tips. Keep em coming!!

[@AndrewBirrenkott]

Forcing yourself to use your non dominant hand is really good advice.

[@jpelfrey325]

Just heard your comments on helping people and being a resource.. That's freaking awesome dude... Love your channel and love seeing people do what they do in a super professional way... Thanks for the vids my man... I'm just a hack trying to learn a few things and I've picked up a ton just from your channel .. Keep at it and God bless👊👊

[@AwesomeFramers]

nah bruh I'M the hack trying to learn. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@phillycheee]

Awesome video!! My ears thank you for turning the saw/tool audio down thru the talking segments

[@lanceodell8058]

I'm using these videos to become familiar with the process for my volunteer construction work.

[@AwesomeFramers]

awesome!

[@creylacoste4981]

Nobody cares. Stop speaking with such vanity and have some self respect. Jk lol that’s nice

[@stevenwallace5470]

He's the one to learn from

[@yan.broccoli]

I stopped tacking nails for pulling tape. I chisel a sharp mark on the edge of the board and pull my tapes from that. No pulling nails later and I don't have to rely on hoping my hands didn't slip. This works great for when I'm walking walls and pulling truss layout.

[@hugovivas1265]

Man you are a pro all that knowledge is gold for people like me who try to be more efficient at work love you videos keep it like that

[@stevenowell]

True that, your channel is a great resource and there are others. Thank you

[@zephyr1408]

Dave Matthew’s ? I told you I was in LE and I was assigned to work his concert ( I was a Sergeant). Nicest guy ever! He put out a spread for us Officers and his Security like none other! The pulled Pork was just glamorous! Anyway great guy ; good taste is carpentry music !

[@CAMCAM413]

19:35 ‘economy of motion’ a great way of becoming efficient 😊

[@TBird89]

Tim as always…your approach is safe, efficient, productive and well explained and you always tell us when you have a brain fart 😊 👍 also sorry to hear about the material theft.

[@kitsurubami]

The story at the end put a smile on my face :)

[@tealkerberus748]

I worked for a bit with the local vet, many years ago. He taught me to always do cow pregnancy tests with your non-dominant hand. That way if the cow steps sideways at the wrong moment, you're still able to sign cheques while you wait for the broken bones to heal. These days vets use ultrasound for that, but the principle holds.

[@jdrissel]

You're definitely right about learning to do everything you can with both hands. I've managed to learn to do everything decently with my left hand except writing and everything except throw a frisbee well with my right. I've occasionally had people just be stunned when I just toss the hammer to the other hand and start driving nails with the other hand.

[@user990077]

17:17 For years when painting and other tasks when my right arm gets tired I switch to my left hand. Over the years using the left hand has improved in movement and coordination.

[@bobbg9041]

12:16 now he can get some strange both hands are rosey palms.

[@dcorey35]

Love your videos and commentary! I am also a big fan of do it not than once make it repetitive/mind numbing so you can use mental energy to solve other problems

[@christophergreen592]

I am old school framing started in the 80 so cal i like when you talked about non dominant hand use

[@shawnmts7109]

I miss" working" accomplishing something I'm proud of. It's safer for others this way. Thank you

[@steveharkins279]

Took me years to notice, but a Radon system is worlds better than any basement dehumidifier. Because it pulls moisture/Radon from the stone side of the concrete. Driest basements I have ever been in, and they don’t smell like your grandmother.

[@markploof]

Great video. Building on details keeps everything moving forward and that’s being efficient. I’m a remodeler and that makes a lot of problem solving. Details make’s the transitions flawless. Unfortunately a lot of details gets buried and know one sees them but the finish work is awesome. It’s kind of like finishing it twice, lol…. Keep up the good mojo, it’s good for the soul…

[@kendavis5711]

Another great informative video with some humor. 👍

[@michaelfarmer537]

Great video and project! I enjoyed watching this process. Coming from a slab on grade post frame background, this is a really interesting idea for an alternative to walking on a slab for decades. You’re a blast man! 21:02 😂

[@hpw59]

Learned a lot on the Breaktime Forum. Lots of experts

[@AwesomeFramers]

Such great times.

[@SethNivens]

You may have addressed this in another video - why pony walls and not girders with posts? Thank you for the great videos! They are super informative.

[@drumswest5035]

Depending on the engineer's requirements pony walls are better for shear. In a high seismic zone some pony walls will even have sheathing on one side. Post and beam is tricky in a high seismic zone.

[@VernBigDaddy]

Thank you for the “Know-How”…. I love you too!

[@timgerk3262]

"Everythjng grows" keeps you in tune with randonmess: a high spot is unlikely to match up with a low spot, so that leaves even a microscopic gap. All the gaps add up. Plus, you anticipate the impact over time of your damp PNW climate on soils and materials.

[@inomenendez4047]

Great Framer and amazing tools but you're singing is even better! Keep tapping and nailing like Macabeats

[@44godson]

I agree, as the late Larry Haun said, it is more efficient to cut them in place. 😂 Oh man, 5 sec later you says the same thing

[@agrayday7816]

i watch for the tangents and banter. :)

[@andrewjblack6]

I really love the efficiency tips mate, always looking for how we can translate them down here in NZ. Don't know if I'm quite ready to not use a nail to pull layout though haha

[@jordanchamp2602]

I’m loving this series so far. I’m a builder on the Oregon coast and have been looking into net zero building for when I get to build my home. Do you have plans to insulate the bottom of the crawl space or is that not necessary? Thanks again for the great videos and I appreciate your sense of humor.

[@AwesomeFramers]

No plans to insulate the ground, nor the floor joists.

[@bwillan]

In the little things that may save time category, have you tried a tape measure that reads right to left vs left to right? It would be easier for a right handed person so you are not looking at numbers upside down all the time.

[@charleselliott5767]

We appreciate all the builders who care about spreading knowledge , Now if we can just spread Jesus

[@nrehberg]

When you were building the pony wall you said you subtract 3-1/8 for the double top, but then you said you build the pony wall with a slight crown. Is the crown you are talking about in the middle of the pony wall, to account for the string sag?

[@steveharkins279]

Being ambredrextis, also balances your body in muscle tone & balance in heights.

[@lucascole7589]

Are you using ZIP R6 for the new continuous insulation rules? If so, are you just adding an inch to all windows and exterior door jambs?

[@AwesomeFramers]

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[@averageal2515]

If vapour barrier is meant to keep water and gases from getting into the crawl space why is part of the foundation left open? Am I missing something?

[@CinnamonTrees]

He said in a previous video that they're waiting to put the rest of the vapor barrier down until dry-in (iirc), to avoid having water fill up the foundation if it gets rained on, since there's no drain. It would have to be pumped out if it did fill up. It also keeps the final barrier from getting covered in dirt and dust and potentially getting torn by feet or dropped tools or materials.

[@noahphillips9180]

Is there a framing forum similar to "break time" around today?

[@ceesweerheim990]

Very interresting buiding methods, looks to me you guys cannot go for a leak with complying to code! Move to Africa, the only insulation we require is from the beer from getting warm! Thanks nice video!

[@tealkerberus748]

Then you consider how much pollution the average US citizen is responsible for each year compared to the average African citizen. The US needs to cut its energy consumption any way it can, and an easy way is to insulate its houses.

[@franciscovega7325]

@ 4:52 . Welcome Back Welcome Back Weeelcome Baaack .. Dang I miss the 80's .. and today 06 08 2024 . I tried watching Pulp Fiction for the first time . But i fell asleep .

[@QUICKNEASYHANDYMAN]

You are using both sides of your brain, always

[@AwesomeFramers]

I use all 4 corners at times........

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

What tool belt are you using? As a fellow husky guy, I have yet to find one that does not try to rip my pants off, much less let hang a loaded cordless nailer off it. And he answered later in the video. Badger bags.

[@AwesomeFramers]

Badger Tool Belts

[@willjohnson4392]

Didn’t expect a Danny Carey (drummer for TOOL) reference in this video!

[@AwesomeFramers]

Right? I was just watching him play drums for Pneuma. Never gets old.

[@willjohnson4392]

That Pneuma video is Freaking ridiculous. Was already in love with his playing but watching that performance was mind-blowing. Love all the attention he’s gotten for it. Saw Tool live around the time it came out; another incredible experience

[@leeshaver7825]

John Travolta plays a pretty good bad guy in Broken Arrow wasn't too bad in Face Off with Nicholas Cage but my personal favorite was Ladder 49

[@jameslabranche4839]

Do yall insulate the rim before you deck it?

[@Nocturnal2010]

@44:30 what song is that? Been playing this part of the video over and over 🤣👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@AwesomeFramers]

I'm not sure, my computer crashed. Its a song off Soundstripe that I pay to use in YT

[@tclynn10]

Love you too!

[@OperationDarkside]

I like that kind of crawl space framing. Though I wonder why you put so many nails into the second top plate. Wouldn't 1 or 2 be enough? I'd like to frame my own house one day, so I'm learning a lot. Thanks for all the explanations.

[@AwesomeFramers]

up.codes/viewer/washington/wa-residential-code-2021/chapter/6/wall-construction#R602.3

[@OperationDarkside]

@@AwesomeFramers Wow. That's a lot of text for nailing. Thanks for the link. I'm on an entirely different continent, but good to know something like this exists online.

[@tealkerberus748]

@@OperationDarkside Awesome that they make their codes available like that. Here in Australia, you have to pay $240 per Australian Standard you want to access - and these are legislated standards so legally you have to comply with them - and the standards are specially formatted so you can't access them on more than one machine for each time you've paid for them. It's an absolute shambles, but no political party cares enough to talk about it.

[@x2thel]

How would you layout the subfloor or transition if the joists changes direction in parts of the floor?

[@doscoronitas]

Just curius, how much extra would it cost to have poured concrete in the crawl space instead of having bare ground? What are your thoughts on this? I saw this somewhere and I think it was to make it easier to get around on a crawler to reach mechanicals and such after. Thx for the videos.

[@joshwalters348]

Not Tim and defiently not a concrete expert but probably 25-35k depending on if Tim and his guys could finish it and cost of concrete in PNW

[@doscoronitas]

Thanks Josh. I appreciate the reply

[@missulu]

Great video Tim, sorry about the thieves!?! Isn't this property in the middle of no where?

[@AwesomeFramers]

its a 3 minute walk from an elementary school............

[@missulu]

@@AwesomeFramers It looked like those fools were dropouts, now we know which school they couldn't handle!lol!

[@tomcrosby25]

Gents, is the gas barrier not required over the entire crawl space or is that something that will be completed later? I guess I do not understand why it would go around the entire wall and the footing areas throughout the crawl space. Is it not being used as a ground gas barrier or serving another purpose?

[@AwesomeFramers]

Yep, but if we put it down now it would become a swimming pool. So that'll happen after the roof is on and the plumbers are done.

[@stevepailet8258]

you make it look so easy My skill level would take me 4 times longer..

[@AF-O6]

Forgive the dumb question….is it not worrying capping the crawlspace floor in concrete to encapsulate your stego before framming the pony walls?

[@AwesomeFramers]

No, you're looking at 5-10k installed for what? Crawlspaces are rarely used by the customer.

[@davidwest7959]

I have the same palsode xp nailer and it seems like yours runs flawlessly. Mine has maybe 1000 nails thru it and it sucks with southern pine. Can’t sink a 3 inch .131 let alone toe nail. Do you have issues with yours? Ended up throwing it on a shelf and bought an air nailer

[@AwesomeFramers]

I don't know what it is, but I run these things just fine, but I've had guys on the crew that struggled. I'm really surprised you aren't sinking that nail in southern pine. We sink in DF and even LSL with these nailers. You running Paslode nails?

[@davidwest7959]

@@AwesomeFramers yes sir, have tried 3 different brands of nails including paslode. It can drive .120 paslode nails if im lucky that day.

[@highdesertjohn]

I also use that level technique, pinching it on the measurement and adjusting the bottom 😊

[@rjygrahamt6c]

I'm a new subscriber and haven't gone all the way back to the foundation pour and footer drainage. Ultimately, I don't get the point of being meticulous about the Stego vapor barrier installation and taping only to have it not be contiguous throughout the crawl space. It seems like any moisture that wicks through the concrete will meet the Stego and then run down to the footer and be exposed to the crawlspace only to be dealt with via dehumidifier. The Rockwool is hydrophobic, so I guess the only real benefit is to protect the mudsill? Not sure the difference in cost of materials and maintenance between dehumidifier and an interior footer drain with sump and continuous Stego. Also, someone else commented about a minor detail left out that Steve Baczek likes for airtightness between foundation wall and mudsill: 6" or 7" foam rolled out on the foundation wall, a bead of Tremco acoustical sealant on top and bottom, mudsill on top. All in all, great channel. I'm learning a lot as I prepare to use my own two hands to build my house starting spring 2025. Thank you for passing along your knowledge! 🙏

[@benrogers5096]

You need to cover the whole area for vapor barrier (hold the ground moisture down) you don’t have any ventilation in walls either good hack job

[@gerardoespinoza7202]

Nice work 👍 just have a question, with all that work involved it wouldn’t be easier to do slap foundation? Or there is a specific reason that you guys doing a raise foundation?

[@AwesomeFramers]

Here in the PNW crawlers are 99% due to topography. We could have but I don't think it would actually save much if anything.

[@ldtenenoff]

Trail cam looks bitchin will take a gander at them & thanks fer teaching folks the right way to work yall b safe out there

[@curtisbme]

Is there a reason you aren't using lasers? Using string seems strange for a height measurement since it will sag.

[@AwesomeFramers]

String doesn't lie and I did address the potential sag in the video.

[@marcesw35]

Can you please ex[plain how the crawlspace is net zero ready when yu haven't pourde concrete or even finished the floor wrap?

[@AwesomeFramers]

No one said the "the crawlspace is net zero ready". It is part of the entire house being net zero ready.

[@marcesw35]

@@AwesomeFramers is the crawlsapce going to part of the conditioned space? why is there on prep for the crawlsapce other than so vapor retarder and rockwool?

[@nathang.1561]

guys on the old forums in the 2000's never shut up about how awesome they were. it was either that or how bad someone else was

[@hpw59]

15:40 ....we always called it the "air gap"😀 👍

[@blamuk]

Is that an impact wrench with a giant orange socket? What's so special about that socket?

[@AwesomeFramers]

Its a Dude Tools socket we bout 15 or more years ago for some work that we needed a deep socket for. Now we just use it for everything.

[@bobbg9041]

I don't know if the crime rate is so high your getting that much taken from the job how safe is that area going to be with people living in the house?

[@AwesomeFramers]

Very safe. I've personally talked to a number of the neighbors, one of whom is a friend of mine. These dudes hit construction sites, not finished sites. There are some very nice homes on this street.

[@kiwigrunt330]

I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

[@cjsawinski]

6:49… most contradictory comment I’ve ever heard! Don’t set a nail to pull from because you better pull that nail or you’ll trip on it when walking the wall (when talking about a foundation pony wall)… now when I’m walking a wall I’ll use a nail… so when your actually walking a wall and should be worried about tripping on said nail is when you will use a nail, but not on a pony wall coming out of the ground???

[@AwesomeFramers]

Exactly

[@steveramirez1654]

👍👍

[@chonkychookie6949]

why does your nail gun sound like a tie fighter? (serious question)

[@AwesomeFramers]

Probably just the mic

[@MrShocking68]

I ❤ you bro 45:03

[@zephyr1408]

I was in LE 30 yrs Tim before I gave it up and became a finish carpenter ( with a teaching credential I do not use I am done) . Those encounters are kind of normal stuff then u drop your guard ? Not good! I really got to the point I did not like thief’s! I hv some stories that I keep to myself! You don’t watch violent movies? Nor do I they are just silly ! Anyway great camera system and I am sorry you guys lost some of your materials !

[@highdesertjohn]

I smiled when you told me that you love me 😊❤

[@SaerTurner-wn2qh]

for your theft issue just do what I do i have an old camper I pay a person o stay in it over night just paint security on it make sure the have a phone and some bear spray I use to have a homeless guy that loved doing security for m paid him 10 per hour and he got free room and baord and he was way from the shelter and Addiction .. he slept day worked night

[@fankin6691]

44:26 😂😂😂❤

[@lprice5583]

Why dont homes have crawl spaces between floors to reduce noise transfer and leave room for utilities? A house like that would make it easy to change up any utilities or make repairs

[@craigfourie3485]

I love Spice Girls...

[@jasonruff1270]

Why not just put gravel in the crawlspace?

[@AwesomeFramers]

No reason to.

[@toku1868]

resting the saw to save 'galactic acid' in your shoulder. no truer statement.

[@tealkerberus748]

Theft from build sites is such a trope, I don't know why the police aren't just sitting there waiting for them. That would have to be the easiest way to catch criminals!

[@Redsson56]

Watch “Get Shorty”

[@kennethney4260]

I'm sorry. Did you? Did you really say? GALACTIC ACID 😂😅

[@AwesomeFramers]

Yep, it burns like its from another system.

[@AdalynDoyle]

[@rogerhodges7656]

Why didn't you frame the pony walls at 24"O.C. since your joists were at 24" O.C. and you knew your layout? Save some material. Save some labor. Ease access in the crawlspace.

[@AwesomeFramers]

It was on the plans and instead of bugging the engineer AGAIN I just went with it since its double top plates and we were using up the footing boards. Total? probably less than 20 pieces.

[@tealkerberus748]

You need a proper bin for your scrap, not a heap. That wouldn't pass inspection around here.

[@stevensims6175]

I seen no squash blocks, maybe not required in your area, everything else was great.

[@kitsurubami]

Average forklift, 9000 lbs. Current price of gold, $2,293.84 per ounce. Forklift worth 330 million dollars!! O.O

[@AwesomeFramers]

This forklift is made of gold

[@jimrobcoyle]

How much weight can you lift while holding your gold?😮

[@dr.romeoconfidential9271]

Why so much $$$ for a crawl space 😢 Not used to see so many dollars spent, here in Cali we put a flat slab and throw up walls !!!!

[@crhees]

heheh: I love you Too.

[@martinp1544]

Dude that sucks..... dealing with scumbags...