Netflix Avatar is a Disaster - Part 2: Toph Edition

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@dire213
@dire213 10 ай бұрын
live-action zuko researching past avatars would also possibly make zuko know that roku is his great grandfather. it is a big reveal in the original.
@FishStickOnAStick
@FishStickOnAStick 10 ай бұрын
Oh god I didn't even realize that, it's even worse than I thought.
@docomega7862
@docomega7862 10 ай бұрын
It was an interesting idea, showing that zuko takes his search seriously. But it should've been played as useless for zuko so he gave up early on, before reaching roku. Throw in a little dialogue between him and iroh with him complaining that avatars are too different so there isn't a pattern of behavior to deduce. Then iroh can reply something like people can completely change over the course of one life so it's normal that avatars are different. At least that way you've made you're addition to the original show not completely stupid, and kinda contribite to the zuko / iroh dynamic and zuko's character arc
@dire213
@dire213 10 ай бұрын
@@docomega7862 what do you mean before reaching roku? roku would be the first avatar to research on the list.
@docomega7862
@docomega7862 10 ай бұрын
@@dire213 it depends. Maybe he'd start by the previous air nomad avatar to study the full last cycle and start by someone probably close to aang. Maybe he'd start by the earliest known avatar to retrace a complete chronological history to see if there could be any evolution in the pattern. Maybe since he doesn't have access to many resources he searched what he could but didn't find much. Maybe the fire nation was keeping roku a taboo so he wanted to start with an avatar easier to access. There could be tens of reasons why he stopped before studying anything about roku
@VerkatosEnsei
@VerkatosEnsei 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Ember Island Players remain completely timeless in regards to adaptations is as hilarious as it is messed up They've now made an unnecessary and fucked up adaptation TWICE ...But the effects were decent
@Cuunke
@Cuunke 10 ай бұрын
I said the same thing, this is definitely Fire Nation propaganda
@flowerbloom5782
@flowerbloom5782 10 ай бұрын
@@Cuunkelol same this is what the gaang watched in theatres
@adamrak7560
@adamrak7560 10 ай бұрын
Ember Island Players aged far better than fine wine.
@dificulttocure
@dificulttocure 10 ай бұрын
Ember Island Players is one of the best episodes in the OG show lol
@elkaidred0512
@elkaidred0512 10 ай бұрын
The fact that Aang didn't water bend once in Book 1: WATER Is just wild. Like why did they think it was more important to add visible genocide of the air nomads than to give AANG the AVATAR his iconic moment that, in the original, wasn't just for the sake of showing off the avatar state, but it also for Katara to see what actual water bending looks like and motivates her to learn even more. Having Netflix Katara save them out of nowhere is such a typical modern writing style that undermines the value of character EARNING their moments. They have so much to work on in book 2 and 3 that it's hard to believe they even tried to make book 1 good in the first place.
@henrysimmons6767
@henrysimmons6767 8 ай бұрын
Wrong..season one was NEVER CALLED BOOK 1 WATER. Lol..in the OG yes but not in the live action. Yall got to start thinking everything will be a 1 to 1 and just enjoy the show.
@alarrim29574
@alarrim29574 5 ай бұрын
@@henrysimmons6767doesn’t have to be a 1 to 1, but it has to be good which this certainly was not
@henrysimmons6767
@henrysimmons6767 5 ай бұрын
@@alarrim29574 and I totally disagree
@samuelwalker1410
@samuelwalker1410 3 ай бұрын
​@@henrysimmons6767no one's complaining about good changes. Clearly we don't expect a 1 to 1. 🤡
@samuelwalker1410
@samuelwalker1410 3 ай бұрын
​@@henrysimmons6767 doesn't matter what they call it. The fact is that they wanted to adapt book 1 WATER and failed to show Aang water bending.
@dificulttocure
@dificulttocure 10 ай бұрын
When Iroh is strict and serious at teaching Zuko firebending in the OG show, I don't think it is because he thinks he's preparing Zuko to fight the Avatar. I view it as him just being respectful to the art of firebending, and he knows his nephew learning firebending is the only actually useful thing they're doing there. It had nothing to do with the avatar.
@FishStickOnAStick
@FishStickOnAStick 10 ай бұрын
Also a valid viewpoint, especially with Iroh having mastered firebending by learning from the dragons, his respect for the art would likely influence how he teaches Zuko to use it.
@Saphirakii
@Saphirakii 10 ай бұрын
what bugs me most about the scar makeup is the lack of skin folding that part of skin has been burnt and will heal unevenly, especially for the face and eyes where there’s facial muscle movement. i didn’t like ShamaZuko because that was barely visible, but i could at least see some aftermath of a scar NetZuko looks like they straight up painted on a bunch of rouge and called it a day
@savorysnot8604
@savorysnot8604 10 ай бұрын
don't even get me started on the scar! in the cartoon zuko had his EAR burned... I know it's possible to create a realistic scar on the set, because thousand of makeup artists do it every day on tiktok and insta... And we're left with what? A red smokey eye???
@pyjamaprince
@pyjamaprince 10 ай бұрын
That scar looked more like iroh spilled tomato soup over zuko's face
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 9 ай бұрын
i hadnt even noticed because this show was so boring i didnt care to look for details but yeah, his scar sucks. in the original, it was so bad his ear was slightly deformed and his eye was almost forced shut. it made ozais actions even more despicable because he was so badly injured. but hey, whats that matter. its not like ozai being a _massive_ pos is important or anything.
@jackallaster7710
@jackallaster7710 9 ай бұрын
that "scar" looks more like he got suckerpunched in the eye and got a big bruise they could've sculpted a prosthetic or something like that and put it on his face, so it'd look more realistic (the only example that comes to mind right now is Gus Fring's half blown up face. from what I remember, that one was a sculpted prosthetic that was put on actor's face and then painted to look all bloody and fleshy and stuff, to make it actually look like he's had half of his face ripped off) but I guess all of their budget was spent entirely on visuals, so that's what we've got
@pyjamaprince
@pyjamaprince 9 ай бұрын
@@jackallaster7710 At least it was better than Yue's hair 😭 that poo looked like George Washington
@EllipsesMusicc
@EllipsesMusicc 10 ай бұрын
the part where Aang yelled "it's Avatar time!" and curb stomped Monk Gyatso made me cry
@Cri_Jackal
@Cri_Jackal 10 ай бұрын
I always assumed the reason why idols of the Avatar only glowed during that scene in The Southern Air Temple was because of the sheer emotional torrent raging inside Aang, like there was some king of "Ignition point" of spiritual energy the avatar had to give off in order for idols of them to react to it. The only other scene in the series that would've had a similar effect would've been when Aang entered the avatar state against the sand benders, enraged at what they had done with Appa. There's also the idea that _every_ Avatar would've had every reason to be angry at the realization that the Air Nomads were truly extinct, 1/4th of them were Nomads themselves, and the rest had to have formed some kind of relationship with them by virtue of learning Air Bending, imagine the rage of a thousand lifetimes, channeling themselves into one body.
@guintar6661
@guintar6661 10 ай бұрын
I assumed it was because he was physically at the temple which would naturally be a place with higher spiritual energy and spiritually linked to the other temples
@Senfree
@Senfree 9 ай бұрын
I assumed it was because he was near enough to other statues.
@lorddevilfish5868
@lorddevilfish5868 10 ай бұрын
10:49 There’s another problem with this, if all bending follows the same principles then it makes Iroh’s lesson to Zuko about how he studied the different philosophy and style of water bending to learn how to divert lightning bending not make any sense or be irrelevant. The importance of Iroh’s lesson isn’t just that now Zuko can do a cool magic trick, but, it’s a broader condemnation of the limited perspective and monoculture of the current fire nation. Through out the show we see the effect of the war on the broader culture of the fire nation citizens such as spiritual movements like the guardians of the Avatar are now controlled by the state,or “embarrassing” forms of art like dancing is now taboo. This shows the irony of how militaristic nationalism and social Darwinism erases its host culture rather than elevates it and the lesson that Zuko learns is how he needs to respect the diversity in philosophies and perspectives humans have and that to truly allow your culture to grow you need to study a multitude of cultural perspectives from within and from outside your own. It’s a subtle but intelligent way to tie the supernatural elements and martial arts themes into the social commentary on the importance of multiculturalism.
@apelincoln
@apelincoln 10 ай бұрын
I was terrified of seeing a live action Toph until I pictured Jason Momoa doing the role.. now I desperately want to see it.
@ThomasPonzo
@ThomasPonzo 10 ай бұрын
no you only want to see the casting not the performance with bad writing ruining her character
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 9 ай бұрын
given this shit show, its the least they can do. its what she would want.
@jessicahvoice
@jessicahvoice 5 ай бұрын
It took me way too long to realize why this was called "The Toph Edition" 😅
@samuelwalker1410
@samuelwalker1410 3 ай бұрын
Just realized by looking at your comment lol
@TheGhostThatWas
@TheGhostThatWas 10 ай бұрын
These videos have convinced me, I'm finally going to actually watch Avatar... the original, not the Netflix one.
@tyloona
@tyloona 10 ай бұрын
Please do it’s one of the greatest of all time. Enjoy!
@Fuchsia_moon
@Fuchsia_moon 10 ай бұрын
How is it going?
@ThomasPonzo
@ThomasPonzo 10 ай бұрын
leave a bad review on the show and a perfect on the cartoon
@lorddevilfish5868
@lorddevilfish5868 10 ай бұрын
I think I cut my face cringing at the needless callback to the original intro.
@Milkyways1998
@Milkyways1998 10 ай бұрын
Please please please continue making these for the rest of the episodes, your analysis is perfect and puts in perspective how the adaptation really doesn’t understand the original show
@llewelynshingler2173
@llewelynshingler2173 10 ай бұрын
My Future Vision is Flaring Up... When Toph joins the party, the Writers will bring up her visual issue over and over again, until it's her sole defining trait.
@ryusawakenji3469
@ryusawakenji3469 10 ай бұрын
Or not bringing her "blind joke" AT ALL with the same excuse as Sokka sexism is SENSITIVE subject in today world 😂
@JimmyPageTV
@JimmyPageTV 10 ай бұрын
I think youll BOTH be right if that makes sense lol
@abokoblin2156
@abokoblin2156 10 ай бұрын
“I’m blind” is gonna be toph’s “my mother was killed by the fire nation”
@markj1lll
@markj1lll 10 ай бұрын
one bad thing about netflix avatar is the obsession for "get it" scenes like iroh talking about jasmine tea multiple times so cringey where in the original cartoon it is built upand much more natural
@taylorwarden205
@taylorwarden205 10 ай бұрын
Now I really want your Korra video. And now you got me worried about Zutara…Aang doesn’t even act like he likes Katara here 😬
@ViIgax
@ViIgax 9 ай бұрын
The KZbinr named "E;R" already ripped part Korra.
@taylorwarden205
@taylorwarden205 9 ай бұрын
@@ViIgax i look into that, but I want to also hear *him* rip apart Korra. Spead the love to hate lol
@DeeEll1
@DeeEll1 10 ай бұрын
Season 2 is gonna be a disaster. Between the implications that the library doesnt exist and zuko never taking aang in the north pole, i cant see any way for lake laogai to happen amd most importantly, irohs speech
@EvilEjXD
@EvilEjXD 10 ай бұрын
Honestly they shouldn’t even be making remakes of the show. They should be making shows or movies on the life’s of the previous avatars.
@franciscobohm1699
@franciscobohm1699 10 ай бұрын
For real
@syntheax2788
@syntheax2788 10 ай бұрын
I am so done with this show. I cant comprehend how people say that its a good show, or decent. Are we all just so used to mediocracy? I actually was hyped watching the first episode... In the german version they actually brought all of the original voice actors back. The nostalgia really hit hard. Watching this in english really makes me not recognize any of the characters. The Zuko actor might be the only one who makes an effort, however I just don't think he looks like Zuko at all. I had to turn this show off when June captured Aang at Rokus temple... basically teleporting there from the earth kingdom, defeating 5 firebenders and Aang, takes him and teleports back to the earth kingdom. The only good thing about this Netflix adaptation was, how fast it made me want to watch the original again.
@youravghuman5231
@youravghuman5231 10 ай бұрын
Same. My friend even hype for s2 and s3 💀. I guess some people just like to watch random bs go fighting rather than the storyline like fking children. Cool fight scene = good story. That's what people who say it's good think.
@evelina2619
@evelina2619 10 ай бұрын
From what I've seen "It's better than the movie" is all some need
@rflowers360
@rflowers360 10 ай бұрын
@@evelina2619barely at some points but overall
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 10 ай бұрын
18:28 it also set up that he isn’t all bad even in season 1 he at least has principles and integrity to uphold his end of a bargain and and not cause unnecessary damage.
@FishStickOnAStick
@FishStickOnAStick 10 ай бұрын
One might say he has a very strong sense of honor
@eaglehaze1600
@eaglehaze1600 10 ай бұрын
Add to that that Zuko kept his word even after Aang didn't keep his, giving Zuko every right to go back to the village and burn it to the ground as per their agreement. If it were any other fire nation official they would have done just that, and Zuko not doing so shows that he doesn't go out of his way to cause harm (although it may also be that he's so single minded in capturing the avatar that he wouldn't waste time on that when his ship needs repairs and his target is getting further and further away, but I like to think it's both).
@MairiVoorhees
@MairiVoorhees 10 ай бұрын
About Zuko's scar... I've seen pictures of Cosplayers doing a better job. Aside that I don't understand why they don't give the actors colored contact lenses. Kind of miss the Watertribe's blue eyes or Zuko's golden ones
@basileusbasil4041
@basileusbasil4041 7 ай бұрын
I've never worn contacts; I don't know how uncomfortable it is. How many life-action shows do that?
@MairiVoorhees
@MairiVoorhees 7 ай бұрын
@@basileusbasil4041 I wore coloured contacts for Halloween, they are not that bad to wear, once you get used to it. Well, Lord of the rings did it, the Witcher did it, and I believe Buffy did it too. I don't know, maybe it's just nitpicking, but it was one little thing in the show that made every nation so different. Like Katara for example looked good in Fire nation clothing, but you still could tell her apart because of the blue eyes....oh well guess it's really just nitpicking lol
@beerfunkch
@beerfunkch 10 ай бұрын
Dude, Netflix is completely ruining Avatar. Given all the terrible changes they've made, I no longer have any hope for a good Season 2 or 3.
@mercado4501
@mercado4501 10 ай бұрын
Good for you. But, be honest! you are still gonna watch season 2 and 3 😂
@Endgame_01
@Endgame_01 10 ай бұрын
I hate giving the movie credit. I think it did a better job with costume design than this but you seem to have found a couple more points where M. Night did a little better. And just like that, the little respect I've had for this live actionbender has diminished a little more
@Fixti0n
@Fixti0n 10 ай бұрын
I just wana point out that the runtime of Netflix Avatar is just a few minutes shorter then the original, if they cut the great divide, then they could adapt the show 1 to 1 without needing to cut anything else.
@timymax
@timymax Ай бұрын
But the great divide is the best episode of the whole show, they shouldn't have cut it out!
@Fixti0n
@Fixti0n Ай бұрын
@@timymax No joke, the great divide is an important episode of the show. It is the first turning point in the story, before this everyone, including the writers, were just winging it, but after this the writers and team avatar found their grove. The Great divide is also situated between two heavy arcs, so the lighter crossing the canyon story line with the light hearted cast and setup makes for a slight brake before going out and do the heavier stuff.
@dupersuper6516
@dupersuper6516 10 ай бұрын
I hope they just leave the romance in the dust and don't replace it. They don't need to do Aang and Katara, but they don't need Zutara either
@squiddler7731
@squiddler7731 10 ай бұрын
You mentioned that they might not do the library because of Wan Shi Tong because of him appearing in a completely different episode, but I feel like they absolutely have to do that just because of how important that episode is. Like the events episode directly leads into every other episode in book 2, they get the goal of reaching the earth king in ba sing sae, and they lose Appa because everyone was stuck in the library and toph was preoccupied keeping it from sinking. If they change anything at all about it that completely derails the rest of the season, to the point where I honestly think they're more likely to replace Wan Shi Tong or just have him appear anyway than change it. Also it's really really funny every time you manage to find and point out something that the movie did better, lol
@FishStickOnAStick
@FishStickOnAStick 10 ай бұрын
I say they're probably not going to cover it because neither Wan Shi Tong nor Zhao mention the library at all. Zhao's mention of it in the original show was the perfect setup to it, and the fact that Wan Shi Tong shows up at all should signify its importance even more, but it goes entirely unmentioned. If Appa gets stolen at all now, which is a big if, I imagine it'll be contained to a single episode. Maybe an episode and a half at the absolute most. I still have no idea how they're going to find out about the eclipse though. Maybe Gran Gran will long distance exposit it after vibe checking the sun itself.
@nobody2996
@nobody2996 10 ай бұрын
@@FishStickOnAStick Maybe they'll have Iroh slip in some exposition about the eclipse when he has his meeting with Toph.
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 7 ай бұрын
i mean, its not like theyre a stranger to removing things that are really important to the story and or characters so far. as important as the library and desert episodes are, i would not put it past them to remove it. theyve shown very clearly they do not fundamentally understand what makes this story work, and i highly doubt thats going to change moving forward.
@timymax
@timymax Ай бұрын
​@@nobody2996that would be a best case scenario, assuming they still have that scene play out
@horacevonbergamot5093
@horacevonbergamot5093 10 ай бұрын
>Takes years between videos >Does pretty good long format ATLA Critique >Subtle Joke about the Chosen Ones You should team up with E;R at this point. But fucking great video man, happy to see that you are still around.
@JebboBaggins
@JebboBaggins 10 ай бұрын
I second this motion
@llewelynshingler2173
@llewelynshingler2173 10 ай бұрын
Please, this guy is a better reviewer than E;R could ever be
@EinTheEin
@EinTheEin 10 ай бұрын
@@llewelynshingler2173 nah E;R is funnier and has more racism jokes.
@ryusawakenji3469
@ryusawakenji3469 10 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more.Let this dude collab with E;R ASAP
@anafu-sankanashi8933
@anafu-sankanashi8933 10 ай бұрын
i would gladly sit through a full show breakdown from you.
@witchcraft2264
@witchcraft2264 10 ай бұрын
I did some math and 200ft is seriously low balling katara's wave. She's done waterbending once before and my genuine reaction at that time was to just say to have her carve a path through the firenation. If anybody teaches her literally anything else she will win (too bad nobody teaches her any waterbending in this show)
@robchuk4136
@robchuk4136 10 ай бұрын
Everything said here is on point, and we haven't even gotten to Ozai and Azula! Please do all the episodes! So far, I haven't seen anyone willing to do so. Episodes from "Spirited Away" to everything that happened in the Northern Water Tribe really need deep analysis
@judebox9438
@judebox9438 10 ай бұрын
With the way zuko had the notebook about kyoshi i originally thought he visited kyoshi island at some point. Managed to talk his way into getting information about kyoshi but made a promise to never return and to never let the fire nation come back. With nothing more of value to get from this small isolated village it was easy to agree. But when Team avatar shows up everybody knows that promise has to be broken. A short scene can show it too. Taking place on the bridge of Zuko's ship. Zuko, Iroh, and some of the crew are looking towards the island coming into view. Iroh, with an audible breath of frustration states "They wont be happy to see us again." Zuko responds in his direct manner "They knew this day would come." Iroh now speaking up so the rest of the crew can hear "Yes. And they wont just let us take the avatar. Do not underestimate the Kyoshi warriors. This is their home. They have the advantage" Zuko's eyes do not break from the island as he growls his words "They won't be able to stop me. Crew! Prepair for an assault!" Iroh looks like he wants to stop him. But closes his mouth and lets his nephew continue his stubborn charge. Some of the crew look to Iroh, heading his words but still forced to fallow the bullheaded child. They fallow their orders. End scene.
@Barakon
@Barakon 10 ай бұрын
Salhoytations! Good to know that you finished this 2 parter, Although I have missed its premier 43 minutes ago, I’m still glad I managed to get here at that time.
@AvatarYoda
@AvatarYoda 10 ай бұрын
26:14 I kind of figured that all the spiritual places lit up in episode 3, but not earlier, because Aang went into the Avatar State while at or very near a spiritual place, like they were all a bit connected and responded to spiritual energy when one place received an overload of it.
@swanqlord3048
@swanqlord3048 9 ай бұрын
"Toph edition" if fucking hilarious lmao. Glad i caught this before it got claimed. I'll rewatch them on the other platform as well
@PineappleDealer37
@PineappleDealer37 10 ай бұрын
I feel like people making these adaptations miss one quite important point - avatar wasn't great just for its darker themes of war and genocide. It was great because it was a genuinely fun show, which was able to hit jokes without them feeling forced, with fun characters and engaging story. This is also something which korra was decent enough with, especially past the second season (although I'd say first half of the second season was also pretty good with until it went off track after the beginnings) These adaptations barely have any of the fun of the main show. They can have no fun, characters are not allowed to smile (and when they are the smiles look insanely forced). They basically remove all the main, fun themes and put the background themes in the front. It's not gonna work.
@fionazehetmeier8412
@fionazehetmeier8412 9 ай бұрын
all characters in this adaptation suffer from the trope of: protagonists = the best, the strongest, the most powerful, the chosen one who hardly requires any work to get better (because It‘s not cool to struggle and put real effort into working towards something you want, right? who’d want to see relatable characters and genuine growth, right?). It‘s a dumb choice in most stories… but with THIS source material? It‘s downright insulting. All of the protagonists in the original have earned their skills and we admire them for it. This Katara goes from making a blob of water to raising a huge wall of from the ocean to „master“ with two platitudes and one scroll that was handed to her.
@Nova-rd3hi
@Nova-rd3hi 9 ай бұрын
Glad to see you back on this channel.
@LuxeLuminaSoaps
@LuxeLuminaSoaps 10 ай бұрын
2:16 The prosthetic would have covered his eyebrow, I see no reason for doing all that work but not fully committing.
@momther
@momther 9 ай бұрын
5 minutes in and i just realized why its called toph edition this is very fun
@imlivingunderyourbed7845
@imlivingunderyourbed7845 10 ай бұрын
26:17 I don't think all the statues and temples would glow every single time Aang uses the Avatar state since that would be incredibly annoying. One theory I like about this is that all the Avatars were also unconscious when Aang was frozen and unawareof the war, and personally seeing the aftermath of the air temple triggered the rage of every Avatar that lives within Aang.
@scootydad8093
@scootydad8093 9 ай бұрын
I think that zutara is super overrated when aang would have no one at that point, the best thing the show could do is put zuko with gin… Jin?… earth kingdom girl that liked zuko
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain 9 ай бұрын
I think the scene with Aang and Katara practicing bending could have been really cool if they'd actually put the focus on the martial arts aspect. There are some aspects of martial arts that do apply more or less universally, stuff like using your balance and shifting your weight to add strength to your movements, so if he'd given advice to her that involves moving her whole body and not just her arm or something like that, then it would make more sense. Or alternatively, they could've had her be able to bend to begin with, and his advice could've been mixing styles instead. One of the coolest things in the original show was that the main characters (especially Katara and later Zuko) were strong primarily because they would mix the movements and styles of other elements into their kit to throw the enemy off guard. My primary example of this is in the fight between Katara and Hama, the big moment of spectacle there is Katara blocking a big attack in a way that's completely uncharacteristic of a waterbender. She squares her stance and stops it dead like an earthbender would, catching Hama by surprise. So if this scene was about Katara learning new ways to bend water using the characteristic agility of airbenders, that would be really cool. Maybe she learns to use it as a mobility aid rather than just a projectile, something that could color her fighting style for the rest of the series.
@platypusnoise
@platypusnoise 6 ай бұрын
Haha I just got Toph edition
@skits_3d824
@skits_3d824 10 ай бұрын
1:11 Why did he say it like that? It reminded me of the live-action one piece scene with Aidan Scott's Helmeppo says that EXACT same line in the EXACT same way??? My Faw-ther
@missAlice1990
@missAlice1990 10 ай бұрын
Yup. The difference is Helmeppo was supposed to be cringey and over the top. I didn't love his acting in One Piece, personally, but at least it made sense for the character.
@blackraptor1154
@blackraptor1154 10 ай бұрын
To everyone who said this wasnt creepy pasta Homicidal (Daniel) Liu is here
@Ipam6
@Ipam6 10 ай бұрын
I always see that the statues and avatar stuff around the world glowed the third (I think it was the third) time, was that because of the powerful moment. Aang had jusr found out his entire culture and people were eradicated by finding Gyatso, and that sent him into the most powerful and emotional avatar state yet.
@deptusmechanikus7362
@deptusmechanikus7362 9 ай бұрын
Ember Island Players reigns supreme as still the best ATLA adaptation to this day
@magosiakalbarczyk9855
@magosiakalbarczyk9855 10 ай бұрын
I swear if they make zutara happen it will be my last straw
@Avocado_san
@Avocado_san 10 ай бұрын
I would watch such analysis for every episode, amazing job!
@miguelpalmaramires370
@miguelpalmaramires370 9 ай бұрын
really good video. nice editing and writing. cant wait for more.
@austinken1405
@austinken1405 9 ай бұрын
I understand the ember island player episode. It's the original creators telling us future projects about that world won't be the same and will basically suck. Just think about it for a minute they get the characters wrong and rushes the writing. Lol.
@skits_3d824
@skits_3d824 10 ай бұрын
6:00 looks like it to me. As a Kataang fan girl I think they don't want a 14 year old girl and a 12 year old boy to HAVE those kind of feelings. No matter how close they are both age wise or emotional wise. The OoooOh nooOoOo killed me btw 😂 19:51 heh yeah.... 😅🤦🤷 36:57 BAD TOUCH BAD TOUCH!!! GET IT AWAY!!!!😱 STALKER SUKI OooooOh NooooOooooo!!!!
@jendoe9436
@jendoe9436 10 ай бұрын
Personally, I don’t see the big deal between a 14 and a 12 year old developing feelings for each other. Especially since Aang is capable of acting mature for his age due to his experience traveling the world before and the Air Nomads general philosophies which seem to stress balance and harmony. Katara may be the “mommy friend,” but she is just as capable of being immature and silly as any other teen her age. Put the two together and Kataang is actually a pretty balanced ship. Both bring out the childhood wonder and fun in each other, and have a strong foundation of respect and maturity that keeps them grounded. Anyway, quibbling over a 2 to 3 year age gap between two people who started off as friends, never acted physically inappropriate with each other (maybe the kiss Aang gave Katara in The Ember Island Players, but they were both digesting a lot of emotions based on the play), and were respectful of each other is peak head palming to me. It’s not like Aang is a physically a 112 year old man or Katara is old enough to be his actual mother, they’re two teens with a crush traveling the world together.
@coreywigent7693
@coreywigent7693 10 ай бұрын
The only reason the other temples didn't glow in the original series when Aang went into the avatar state on Zuko's ship is because Aang had to be in a temple for the orher temples to glow.
@georgplatzer8213
@georgplatzer8213 10 ай бұрын
if it is a plothole that aang in the iceberg already beeing in the avatar state. Would it be no plot hole if the statues glow for a 100 years? i believe the statues were glowing when he entered it 100 years ago but stoped
@lilylollielegs34
@lilylollielegs34 10 ай бұрын
I thought the thing about the avatar state lighting up at the temples was due to him entering it AT a temple. Which explains why it didn’t light up the two other times
@miwi7706
@miwi7706 9 ай бұрын
My theory about the avatar state not showing the first time in the temples was that it wasn't a conscious decision on Aang's part. It's a defense mechanism during the iceberg scene and boat scene. While at the temple he activates it himself.
@priam2882
@priam2882 10 ай бұрын
Imagine they're setting up sokka and aang coming out for each other
@androidsenpai1462
@androidsenpai1462 2 ай бұрын
I’d say your analysis of Zuko’s character here was a little backwards. In stark contrast to the traditional evil/good redemption arc, original Zuko wasn’t really ever a villain. He was an asshole, sure, but for the most part, he was just a kid who had been abused, unloved, and basically abandoned by nearly everybody. He never kills people or tortures them. His sole focus is Aang. His conquering and battle scenes are testaments to this; he never kills or threatens his opponents, he always focuses on Aang, and he never endangers civilians especially. Hell, the way he talks to Iroh about Ozai speaks VERY heavily to a kid with Stockholm Syndrome. His “redemption” could more accurately be described as healing. Dallas Liu’s character just feels like an unrepentant villain that needs to learn the good moral things. He doesn’t feel like Zuko at all beyond the broadest strokes of character traits. In one of my least favorite tropes in kids’ media especially, they’re not treating their kid characters like kids, but like mini adults. Zuko being deemed as a “bad person genuinely changing over time to better themselves” feels like a betrayal of his character. Zuko cannot be judged the same way a character like Darth Vader is. For all intents and purposes, he is a _child._ When he was 8, he lost his mother. When he was 13, his father mutilated him and kicked him out. His sister has been terrorizing him his whole life, and his uncle is only now-when he’s 16-taking a big part in his life due to being away in the army for years. Zuko’s arc is moreso about living up to his original potential rather than becoming something he wasn’t originally, because if he’s anything like a villain in Books One or Two, it’s because of how deeply his deeply fucked up childhood affected him. And Netflix does not understand this. Edit: Oh, and I forgot that he has to live with the man who he desperately seeks approval and love from loving his younger sister over him. I have real life friends that experience that to this day. It doesn’t make them villains; just traumatized.
@djibreezy
@djibreezy 10 ай бұрын
loving the reviews, thanks for not holding back in hopes of appeasing fans of this adaptation..
@pearl_lisha896
@pearl_lisha896 9 ай бұрын
I just wish I could have been a fly in the writer’s room to hear how much they struggled to take an already great story and great characters and turn it into fanfiction garbage.
@yrbelite8450
@yrbelite8450 9 ай бұрын
“But it’s supposed to be themed like game of thrones” yeah and pigs fly.
@scootydad8093
@scootydad8093 9 ай бұрын
Last comment I swear but anyone notice that the fire Benders at the village get SLINGSHOT with rocks, now that typically does a lot more than just hurt, especially when hit in the eyes but regardless that’s some insta kill no scope headshot shot right there
@thumb5647
@thumb5647 10 ай бұрын
33:31 Katara: So Im gonna explain to you the war from my inmidiate perspective only (over the course of this past years i have lived) (forgets to tie up a subtle friendship along with their initial conversation and forming an empathetic bond unlike the cartoon and Instead proceeds to give a speech on philosophical matters of why the war is bad instead of emotional matters) Aang: That's rough buddy
@scootydad8093
@scootydad8093 9 ай бұрын
Was not expecting bad tv show academy from you big man :edit: JESUS GARY PLAUCHE MOMENT WTF
@serenitymoon825
@serenitymoon825 10 ай бұрын
The more I hear about this show, the more I don’t want to watch it
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 3 ай бұрын
Zuko deep down was always a good guy he just was molded so the good parts were buried deep.
@Austin.Kilgore
@Austin.Kilgore 9 ай бұрын
0:25 Actually the only started doing so in the original show in the third episode, when he went into the Avatar state while at the air temple. Which I think was the difference from the when he went into it in the first two episodes and they didn’t glow then but then did glow when he went into it in ep. 3… so I don’t think that’s necessarily a plot hole.
@randomspider725
@randomspider725 7 ай бұрын
I don’t ship child characters (just out of belief that the first person you crush on isn’t your soul mate), but if Zutara does happen, it would be so goddamn funny. Imagine a plank of wood making out with a slightly more passionate plank of wood.
@jaradrichardsC137
@jaradrichardsC137 10 ай бұрын
This deserves way more views
@Velgrauder
@Velgrauder 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed these two videos. I know this is mainly a creepypasta chanel but I'd love more of these kind of videos.
@bru6719
@bru6719 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see you talk about this more
@tomboyraider1015
@tomboyraider1015 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I'm tired of superfans defending the shit out of this mediocre show. The original will always be there to enjoy and emtertains better.
@Mushezable
@Mushezable 10 ай бұрын
This is the scariest creepypasta so far.
@AngelGuzman0925
@AngelGuzman0925 10 ай бұрын
You absolutely were spot on. I really wanted to look past it because I wasn’t expecting a 1:1 adaptation but the live action was just bland. I hope, hope, hope they receive this feedback and make seasons 2 & 3 way better. If they don’t and it turns out being similar to season 1, you can expect for it play out like the ember island play 😂 and maybe even more credit to the movie adaptation.
@AB-zl4nh
@AB-zl4nh 9 ай бұрын
Aang, going to visit the site of his dead people, still makes sense to me. Many, not all, would do the same to gain emotional closure.
@acedwards819
@acedwards819 10 ай бұрын
All bending can work from the same ideas bc bending is more about the mental discipline than the physical, just like jeong-jeong said about firebending and guru pathik tried to teach aang about bending in general. That was the core idea behind energy bending in the og show but they didn't execute it well in the end. Aang in live action does have the right idea but they made his dialogue total nonsense so bad execution again. Also, katara and aang's romance was pretty bad so it's probably best that it's not alluded to, yet. Not that zutara is good either, let's keep that out too
@Fixti0n
@Fixti0n 10 ай бұрын
Controversial opinion. But Shamalans Avatar is better then Netflix, because of its context, it was made as a promo while the show was still airing before we knew the cultural impact, and it was a movie strained for time, so the changes it made was made out of necessity. Netflix Avatar was made in a time when the original show is one of the most analyzed medias in modern time, its cultural impact is undeniable, those who watched the original are now grown up and in the industry, it is also a show that has about the same runtime as the original, so they woudnt need to cut anything, and all the changes made are made out of hubris, the adapters thinking they can do it better then the original creators, even when the orginal creators are right there next to them telling them they are fucking up. And most importantly, its made because of corporate greed.
@AguilarakcelFaraxen
@AguilarakcelFaraxen 9 ай бұрын
It's the same Netflix knows better than the author case that we can see in that thing named the Witcher adaptation. Really good job Netflix, good job in destroying every good story out there.
@YEOsCanal
@YEOsCanal 9 ай бұрын
Not every time the avatar goes into the avatar state all the temples and paintings in the world light up only once, when the avatar spirit was ignited then there was such a big wave of energy that things in the world glowed, that was the only time otherwise it would be quite a security risk if everything glowed when you go into the avatar state
@J3.S0
@J3.S0 10 ай бұрын
For some reason, whenever Netflix Zuko conjures fire on his hand, it kinda reminds me how chidori or rasengan is made 😅
@BorderlandsBoy0
@BorderlandsBoy0 9 ай бұрын
People saying this is better then the original need to be put on a watch list
@RocketshipSails
@RocketshipSails 9 ай бұрын
Part 3 PLEASE!!! Eager to see your frustration with Bumi, I HATED Bumi 😂
@RocketshipSails
@RocketshipSails 9 ай бұрын
When you’re completely finished reviewing this season I’m gonna download all the pieces if they’re available, it’s simply too good lol
@LynzuAnderson
@LynzuAnderson 10 ай бұрын
Finally!!! Thank you!!! Someone else who can see and explain that the terrible movie, while just an atrocity, does a better job at character development and sets up more potentional for growth and many other things than natla. Natla made the characters so bad, and was only 37 minutes shorter than the original cartoon. The movie setup book 2 better in like 90 minutes than natla did in nearly 8 hours. I'm not saying the 2010 was good, I'm saying it did more justice to the characters and their arcs than natla. This is why I say that the Shyamalan movie is actually better than NATLA. The combat, cgi, etc was worse yes, but the worldbuilding, character development, arcs, etc was better. As a massive avatar fan, I had given up hope on a good adaptation because getting bending right and having the cgi just seemed impossible... but NATLA did that just fine, but they fucked up everything else. The 1 thing you have full control on, and can do no matter what, good character element, they couldn't do right, but somehow did the impossible on the cgi.
@mclaude3
@mclaude3 10 ай бұрын
How many of those who liked the Netflix adaptation are willing to watch it again? The answer to that tell you everything you need to know about it
@MistbornTaylor
@MistbornTaylor 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. You pointed out so many of the problems I have with this first episode. Hope you continue!
@antoniomaruge8218
@antoniomaruge8218 10 ай бұрын
Question. Are they going to try to learn from all these mistakes, or are they going to just push along, semi- destroying this masterpiece?
@fangiscool1
@fangiscool1 10 ай бұрын
Only thing I disagree on is you applauding the Zuko casting. The Zuko performance was zesty af. He was bobbing his head back and forth and everything. Zuko is angry and dramatic, not zesty
@judydian5636
@judydian5636 10 ай бұрын
Well said
@zenzfangorl9588
@zenzfangorl9588 10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for you to rip into the next episodes
@micaann7974
@micaann7974 10 ай бұрын
Albert Kim, the director, gave an interview about the Kataang hints in the live action which is the moment when Katara gave a speech to Koizilla Aang. For me, Albert did this because he admits that the Kataang ship has not yet sailed lol
@EmoBunny69
@EmoBunny69 10 ай бұрын
The kid got some great eyebrows
@btonyh5878
@btonyh5878 10 ай бұрын
Holy W for Dallas Liu praise, they did Zuko so good in this series
@strikeflyer
@strikeflyer 10 ай бұрын
Man, its been almost a decade since I last watched Avatar, and now you're making me want to watch it thanks to this review of the Netflix live action. The Halo Reach music at the end of this part is so fitting.
@sparky6505
@sparky6505 9 ай бұрын
Love how good this video looks I know it got claimed And luckily I already watched it
@MarKreationsStudios
@MarKreationsStudios 10 ай бұрын
I'm loving these so far!! I have an idea for a future video: listing off everything you think the movie did better than Netflix!
@darienhighley2041
@darienhighley2041 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking a lot of this while i was watching but i didn’t realize how much it was lacking until watching this bc i was blinded by love for the show and nostalgia. i do still think they did some stuff right and im still excited for season 2 in spite of the plot holes and attention to detail that lacked from the original show. Still better then the movie lol
@SandyTheDesertFox
@SandyTheDesertFox 9 ай бұрын
Love the sly cooper music
@tygerinthenight3255
@tygerinthenight3255 10 ай бұрын
You just had to use the sly cooper music, huh? Well, my weekend is full now
@amusingmoose9924
@amusingmoose9924 10 ай бұрын
This is still the most off topic review of Happy Appy I’ve ever seen.
@georgplatzer8213
@georgplatzer8213 10 ай бұрын
Btw the Netflix Grangran gave me Admiral vibes from the Monster Hunter Movie with Mila Jovovich haha :D
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