NEVER STRIP A CHAIN AGAIN? Innovative 1-step chain waxing is here!

[@manningthomson7918]

Quick appreciation post to thank you for using metric in all of your measurements so 99% of the world knows what you’re talking about

[@dylanauker4031]

Or, like this American, you could learn to convert. It’s very easy. I regularly use both as I work in the medical field in the US.

[@laughingbeast4481]

​@@dylanauker4031 To learn it just coz some youtubers when you don't ever use it otherwise ? Hardly. We learnt quite a few things to understand , including language itself, but this is way too ineffective.

[@firsthippy]

I'm old enough to be able to do the conversions quick in my head but ounces, stone, gallons, inches, feet, miles, etc can get in the sea. Imperial feels like looking at a sundial to measure time or something. :D

[@davidlilja9180]

@@dylanauker4031 Or, like this Australian, I've been doing the converting since 1973. If it weren't for the UK & USA I could've stopped by now. But hey, 160kph sounds faster than 100mph, except it ain't.

[@davidlilja9180]

@@firsthippy and which pints, gallons, and tons are we talkin'? It's a bit like selecting the English language but under the stars n stripes. 😱

[@Advcrazy]

Silca have already won the geek award for 2024!

[@randallsmith7885]

Silca proves again that science beats tradition and speculation every time! Amazing!

[@poxcr]

Can't wait for ZFC to run this through its paces! Looks promising!

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

I am receiving a Silca pot and kit later today. I just noted a postal notification .

[@sAmiZZle82]

@@robertmcfadyen9156He probably already has tbh

[@DavidJones-bl2yz]

​@@robertmcfadyen9156you gullible fool 😂😂😂

[@steveedwards5280]

That was my first thought. The theory is sound but Adam has really laboured the point that you can't clean and lube. This isn't quite the same. The deep dive is going to be interesting. I also believe there's no such thing as a free lunch so there has to be a downside to this method. It might just be the cost, it might be a slight reduction in durability, I don't know. But I'd like to know the downside as well.

[@poxcr]

@@steveedwards5280 ADAM!!!! We need you here! 🚨

[@terryduncan8979]

Finally = someone explains what happens if the grease is not removed before waxing. Thank-you!

[@blairrobertson8183]

Is there a smarter guy than Josh in the bike industry? He just keeps thinking, creating and refining ideas and products that make riding bikes better, more efficient and more fun. Leaving here to go place my order.

[@markwolfgang7407]

And he’s a hell of a nice guy, to boot!

[@DavidJones-bl2yz]

Mate he's a con artist you can buy a Croc pot and a candle for €15 uk pounds are you really that blind

[@MrUberboss]

@@DavidJones-bl2yz A con artist that goes so deep into the science behind it, sure mate. If there are con artists out there it's more people like Muc Off with their wrng claims and fancy packaging/marketing but bad products based on nothing. Do you call Ferrari con artists too? It's a car that will get you from spot A to spot B like thousands of others for a much higher price. The difference is in the design, performances and targeted audience. Are you really that blind?

[@markwolfgang7407]

You’re a clown. I have an ultrasonic cleaner and a croc pot. His new solution is 1000% easier

[@makantahi3731]

@@DavidJones-bl2yz ha, ha, Well done, finally someone who thinks for himself, but the best thing is that they force pots, pans and frying pans, the whole kitchen to wax the chain. For the last 5-6 years I have been using a battery induction heater to heat the chain on my bike, and the whole equipment fits in a box of shoe and I can wax the chain anywhere, I even made a video and there are no comments, people are stupid

[@tilltheend685]

I live in a unit and this is a game changer for me !! No mess, no fuss !! Thank you silca !!

[@richardharker2775]

Josh never ceases to amaze me with constant improvements. I'm going to assume there was a ton of investigation, trial and error. The little waxing pot is genius. I've been looking at wax pots they sell to beauty clinics but never been convinced they would be right. This one is.

[@davidnelson907]

Thank you Josh and all the great team at Silca. I have an ultrasonic cleaner and cleaning solutions, a Crock-Pot for your great Hot Melt Wax, your Chain Stripper (so I’m pretty well covered😊) and yet I’ve just ordered both these new items. Absolutely don’t need them, but absolutely want them!!!😊😊 Thank you and keep up the great work.

[@ShawnIsBatman]

What is the reapplication? Is a new chip required each time I am treating a new chain? What if I am not treating a new chain, but doing a re-wax on an existing chain, is there a benefit to using this or a reason to not use it? Given the longevity of chains treated with Hot Melt (and I use Super Secret as an in-between treatment), if I am rotating between two chains, I can get two chains to last multiple riding seasons.

[@Killdozing]

Wondering these same things

[@SILCAVelo]

Rewax does not need another StripChip, just drop it back in the wax and you're good to go.

[@ov3rcl0cked]

@@SILCAVelo What if I'm waxing multiple chains or reusing the hot wax to do 2 new chains at once? Say I'm doing 2 new chains at once for different bikes, do I put in 2 strip chips? Do I put one in right before doing each of the new chains?

[@bensy010]

@@ov3rcl0cked that pot looks like it is made for one chain only to me.

[@redwoodJB]

@@SILCAVelo if you're reapplying would you use the lower, normal temperate rather than the higher 125 C when first stripping/waxing? Ordering mine now.

[@jockboyer9775]

Thanks Josh, I have used the system on two new Campy chains already with great of ease. I will say thought that both times at 125c there is some "burping" going on with one time blowing off the plastic cover top of the heater. So make sure you have a large enough piece of cardboard underneath for the burping wax to splash on to. A++ thank you.

[@MrTeff999]

My first experience with wax chain lube was a total fail. In just year my chain was stretched beyond my measuring tool's range. Thanks to your channel, now I know why. Wax lube is useless on a factory oiled chain. A few days ago I installed your pre-waxed chain. Wow. My drivetrain has never been this quiet. I'm a true believer.

[@martindahl2431]

Damn. I just purchased an ultrasonic cleaner, solvents, degreasers, and a second hand crockpot and waxed my first chains. Now you've changed the game.

[@Leo-gt1bx]

You saved yourself a lot of money 😂

[@marcbryant8482]

Exciting innovation in wax chains for sure. There are many questions about its practical use for us so I think a fact sheet covering many of the questions posted here would be a huge help. Dealing with rewaxing, multiple chains, how may chips to use, etc.

[@makantahi3731]

many questions but a few answers

[@JohnGarlandTrialLawyer]

Silca - making another product that makes the cycling experience better. Thanks.

[@dominicbritt]

This is a fantastic product for bike shops - save 30 minutes in an ultrasonic cleaner and a fair bit of faffing with wax.

[@makantahi3731]

wrong it is only for new chains, not for dirty chain

[@sirui5108]

Just wanted say thank you so much for pushing the innovation in this niche but relatable topic of chain lubrication. I am currently using the drip wax although not very successful because I think I did not do the stripping correctly, but with this 1-step wax it may very well push me to do "real" chain waxing! Cheers.

[@HarishChouhan]

Great. Earlier I had bought the kit from Cyclowax mostly because I was not keen on finding a slow cooker to melt the wax. This pot looks like it will take off with that futuristic design.

[@ofenzuzq72]

Good to see prewaxed chains now to avoid all that degreasing or oleogelation.

[@the_joe_reynolds_foundation]

No questions, just praise. You all are killing it, and I hope you keeping killing it.

[@86309]

Just purchased the whole kit, hope it's better than the instapot. My 4 questions are - 1. will the smaller 600 ml capacity get contaminated faster than a whole bag of Secret chain wax in my instapot and require more wax changeouts? 2. the Strip chip bag I bought is only for new chains right with factory lube, what about chains that just have been previously used with bottled lubricants, and not converted via the immersion in chain stripper solvent ? 3. is the strip chip all in one? do you guys use strip chip for initial clean and lube then go to normal waxing with super secret hot melt applications? 4. can I buy an additional 600ml stainless tub for my new Silical melter to keep the wax separate ?

[@makantahi3731]

1. yes , 2. nothing, just continue, 3.yes and no, if you really want to spend even more money, they will come up with new unnecessary products and turn chain waxing into a religion , 4.of course, when you want to spend money on such products, we are happy

[@ChandlerGCollins]

Wow, this is so niche but I love it - this will solve a minor but tremendously annoying problem!

[@dudeonbike800]

Actually, it could save some lives. Thanks to that Aussie nutjob, people are playing with gasoline in their shops & garages. Degreasing your chain with gasoline is about the dumbest thing you can do. There are so many other better alternative solvents out there that aren't as toxic or explosive. Mineral spirits and alcohol are a few. And even those still pose a fire risk. Citrus degreaser is the winner safety-wise. So completely eliminating the need for a bunch of solvents in the shop is a really good thing. That said, I'm gonna go through the degreasing procedure with my immersion wax chains for a bit. Might give this a try later to compare.

[@engiadina880]

Hi Josh, congratulations to this dedicated wax heater, that many of us have been waiting for! Please add an ultrasonic sound generator and I‘ll buy it!

[@SILCAVelo]

In our testing adding ultrasonic maybe saves 5 minutes from the soak and agitation part of the process, but adds over $100 to the cost of the wax melter, and the end performance is no different or better in testing, so we chose to try and get it to a price that was attainable for the most people possible!

[@engiadina880]

@@SILCAVelo Wow! Very impressing, that not only you have considered this, but already had tested it. This convinced me, I‘ll buy one!

[@mantelles]

Hi Josh, Another amazing product from Silca. Gotta LOVE chemistry. OK, questions 1. after strip and wax a chain using 1 chip, can the remaining wax be used to re-wax previously waxed chains, just like the regular Silca wax process? 2. Is the correct usage to use 1 new chip added to wax for each factory greased chain that will be stripped and hot waxed?

[@SILCAVelo]

Our official stance is that 500gm of wax can handle 6 factory chains and 6 strip chip pieces (one whole package of StripChip). In total, one bag of wax and one StripChip pack will be good for 70-80 total waxings including the 6 strippings. We've seen no degradation in performance at any of these ratios of StripChip to base wax, but also know that there has to be a tipping point. The oleogelation converts the grease to a very long chain fatty acid that's very much like wax, but isn't wax, so we've put that limit there as at some point, performance will suffer.

[@nooj4125]

@@SILCAVelo so you can start with a factory chain, drop it in with a strip chip, wax it, pull it out, then come back tomorrow take an older waxed chain and re-wax that old chain, just like you would normally

[@pgreenx]

@@nooj4125 following - wouldn't make sense to buy all this just for the one-off new chain but hopefully they will respond

[@nooj4125]

@@pgreenx if i'm reading this and the website correctly, i think the oleogel agent is basically consumed by the factory grease, and then once that's done, you just use it like your normal pot of wax.

[@Lemond75]

@@SILCAVelolove the look of these products. If you still drop a new chain into mineral spirits before using the wax and a strip chip, will this have any negative effect on either product? Wondering if this might be a way to extend the longevity of the wax by minimising some of the pressure on the strip chip to handle to factory grease on a new chain.

[@Ben-td4vz]

This is truly awesome! Silca does not fail to actually innovate. 👍🏻

[@Frostbiker]

I don't even have a chain and I think this is pretty cool.

[@mnovo]

Strip chip chain stripping works very much like soap makers through "soaponification" with lye. I've begun using this recently but with commercial cleaner. Bravo

[@MokaBoucha]

Josh greatest skill is his ability to formulate ideas and bring them to reality.

[@garyfunnell6357]

Strip chip is good for 6 chains, as I see it a tablet is added to the wax, firstly at strip chip needs 125 degrees, does this temp have a detrimental affect on the wax that needs an ideal temp of 70 degrees? Also with the 6 chain use of strip chip, is it a case of just add another block to the wax after 6 chains or does the wax then need to be replaced? Cheers in advance

[@SILCAVelo]

The base wax doesn't begin to damage until around 150C, which is the 'High' temp on most crockpots, so be very careful. The ideal reaction temperature for StripChip is 120-130C and as long as you're in that range, you will get the reaction to convert the oil, AND won't be doing any damage. We are saying no more than 6 chain strippings per 500gm bag of wax. We've seen no degradation in performance at that level, but there has to be some tipping point where having the percentage of StripChip and oleogelated oil will have an effect. In total you should expect 70-80 waxings per bag of wax+StripChip

[@philchevrier]

​@SILCAVelo just to make sure I'm undersranding this correctly: 1 bag of wax + 1 chip is good for 6 degreasings maximum. Can be used for more waxings but if more degreasings need to be done, get a new bag of wax (with new chip) Correct?

[@cypis666]

@@philchevrier 1 chip is good for one degreasing. You can degrease up to 6 chains in one wax.

[@BrewsGamesRides]

Just received my kit today, looking forward to waxing up my SL8 chain.

[@chanstevens9658]

Another brilliant "you don't need this but want this" pairing and I did just order them. Yes, I'm replacing the $20 croc pot that's served me for years with the $99 cooker that has much more elegant hanger design. I'll try the chip cleaner too, but given how easy their cleaner solvent is to use, at half the cost, that's probably my go-to solution.

[@COYSMike]

Same. I don't mind the extra manual step to clean a new chain myself (and know it's spotless). But the cooker I really want!

[@emilegoguely4032]

Agree, curbside crockpot paid it's dues already. $100 being not nothing grateful it's not more (for the sake of gains & money grabbing that usually come hand in hand)

[@adam__smith]

I want the cooker too. My second-hand $15 one takes about an hour to melt the wax.

[@DavidJones-bl2yz]

You really believe all this Bullshit about chain waxing just but a cheap Croc pot and candle job done

[@seligseligabc123]

Hi, Josh, it’s John Luc Seligman, congratulations on your new innovations, love the thinking, you can’t beat empirical science & data:-), good luck with it all.. My only thought on the topic is that perhaps go into negotiations with bike companies to have them manufacture & distribute by contract their chains with your special Silca ‘factory wax’ product which you could maybe develop instead of the greasy chain wax we all hate if that is technically possible in consideration to metal oxidation & time? I leave it you your expertise. But would love to know if that could be a possibility?..you may remember, I wrote to you recently last year about my ideas, you kindly replied explaining a patent pending is what you need before proceeding which is in the pipeline for the hot wax innovation I’ve been using for two years, and nobody else seems to have considered it as far as I know, but I will find out before too long and get back to you what ever the answer to air the concept. .?:-). I certainly wouldn’t go back to tradition, that said it still needs lots of R&D to refine, again if at all possible?..P.s Really entertaining appearances on the GCN show. You really are a wealth of informationThanks again for your advice. All the best Luc….🎉

[@spishco]

For those of you who don't know what "PID control" means; PID stands for Proportional Integral Derivative. It's a type of controller that allows for continuous modulated control of a system. In this case, temperature. A regular thermostat would sense a temperature, then shut the off cooling or heating system. Actual temperature will always overshoot the set value, and then fall (or rise) until the system is switched on again. This means the temperature is never constant. A PID control smooths this out and can apply minute adjustments in order to keep the temperature constant. These controllers are widely used in industrial application. For example, where a constant speed of a conveyor belt is required, regardless of load. Here's a great intro video on the concept, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4OTmYKjn8Z7ppIsi=omq3pTROlQxUPCmd

[@robertskochinstitut6653]

I already strip the chains and have a good setup going that will last for years. I mainly wax to not have dirty black oil on my drivetrain. Second reason is the longevity of the parts and the, third reason is environmental. Not having to use the solvents seems to be a more ecological approach. I'll certainly give it a go at some point.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

".. already strip the chains " Where does the material from that end up? Wax culters love to cite environmental issues but never much mention the solvents involved in getting that perfectly good (as Josh notes here, the only bad thing seems to be the dirt it attracts) grease off the chain so the waxing can begin and where that substance ends up. At least this latest offering to the god o' wax would eliminate that step and the bad by-products or did I mess something?

[@dirkross4598]

Can one order additional pans/liners for new waxing system so we can use different waxes with the same heating element. I have the secret blend for everyday use and the silca x for race day chains. Would be great to not need 2 complete systems.

[@SILCAVelo]

Sorry, there are no liners in this system. This was done to give the absolute most accurate temperature measurement and control as that is super important with the StripChip reaction.

[@Dhungerf60]

Josh in full geek mode, great product, thanks

[@makantahi3731]

4:18 the molecules of any mineral oil are longer and stronger than the molecules of wax, and it would be ideal to have a dry chain on the outside and oil on the inside that constantly circulates on the friction surfaces

[@justinfournier1285]

I’ll get the pot because it’s more precise than my crock pot and the hanger is cleaner than what I DIY’d. But I’ll keep with the US cleaner cause I know it comes out spotless and use my existing crockpot for first wax on dirty chains that have been cleaned with boiling water. New pot for final wax.

[@imbackinthegame3611]

Awesome! Cleaning the factory chain was so annoying. So do i just put the strip chip in the wax bath and can clean as many new chains until the wax runs out?

[@robrigg8045]

Phenomenal products. Just ordered the Chain Waxing System due to OCD on temp measurement and impatience with current crock pot heat up time. Question 1: How long should chain sit in the pot at 75*C for standard waxing? Previously, you suggested "cooling" the wax before taking out. Has anything changed in the recommended process? Question 2: Is it okay to heat and transfer wax from crock pot to Silca pot or would you recommend starting with new pot of Secret Chain Blend? Previous wax has been used on 10 - 15 chains and refreshed with SCB when needed. Thx!

[@IComeWithRain87]

Got few questions: 1. After some time of usage chain will accumulate some dirt anyway. How you advise to clean it? 2. Some dirt anyway will drop in wax during rewaxing. So any advice how to maintain wax inside waxing system to be clean?

[@beebopcola]

For general maintenance, Silca recommends wiping the chain with a microfiber until debris is removed, then rewax. If you want to completely strip it again, their recommendation is to boil water in a kettle and pour it on the chain as you pedal. Let it cool, dry until damp, and then rewax as usual.

[@beebopcola]

They make a 1-step chain stripper for this purpose as well.

[@hardmtnbiker]

I’m a huge fan of the Secret Chain blend and it’s on all my gravel bike and mountain bike chains. Because of this, I seldom buy new chains. So it’s just a matter of cleaning (de-waxing) chains and re-waxing. The only time I have to strip chains with Silca chain stripper is when I convert one of my friend’s chains or I’ve got a new chain. I like the temp control crock pot with chain stand and probably get that since I was just boiling the bag in a regular pot. My Secret Chain Blend bag has lasted for many years of re-boiling.

[@mytucsoncycling]

There's a ton of good question and answers here. I had already heard of oleogelation in relation to food science. When I heard oleogelation on a video related to chain waxing I had to hit rewind to make sure I heard correctly. Great job coming out with two promising new products. I had decided to start waxing my chain, but was leery about using a crock pot. Looking forward to purchasing these products.

[@makantahi3731]

4:18 yes that's exactly what I'm doing, the hardness of the wax must be in accordance with the outside temperature. The goal is to keep the wax in the chain as long as possible. Hard-summer wax cannot be used in winter because it crumbles, and winter wax cannot be used in summer because it becomes wet and sticky.

[@mpvsystems9302]

Seems like a great value for bike shops that will save time, eliminate process steps, errors, etc. As a home user with an ultrasonic cleaner, I only need to strip the factory grease on a new chain once a season at most. For me, the biggest hassle is constantly cleaning the chain before re-waxing it to remove the dirt that otherwise contaminates the clean wax. Boiling the chain in water still doesn't get all the dirt out and the process is a real stove top hassle . When we used to use white teflon powder as the main additive back in the day, you could easily see the black contamination building up on the bottom of the wax pot. Would Strip Chip help isolate this type of contamination and eliminate the need to boil the chain before rewaxing?

[@TheSpaceBrosShow]

Do you just add normal degreaser to your ultrasonic when cleaning new chains?

[@mpvsystems9302]

@@TheSpaceBrosShow I start with Mineral Spirits in a glass bottle in the ultrasonic filled with 160 degree water. When the grease is out, I switch to water soluble degreaser, and then an acetone bath in another glass bottle to finish.

[@kupperpooh]

is the strip chip only for factory chains? what about a chain i am currently using? If I clean it then put it in the wax/strip chip mixture is that ok? will the stripchip work with a chain that has liquid lube applied and not cleaned?

[@SILCAVelo]

You only need it to bind up and convert the factory lube. Chains that have been used, particularly with other oils should be stripped traditionally and then waxed normally.

[@Scanlonc3]

My brother let me tell you it ain't worth stripping a used chain. Spent too much time this weekend trying to salvage a chain with less than 100 miles on it lol

[@susannawbary5540]

What if the bike shop dumps lube on your prewaxed chain? Is it garbage?

[@dudeonbike800]

@@susannawbary5540 no, but you should strip it or use the chip. Otherwise the wax will not coat the metal properly and the remaining lube will attract dirt, making the wax moot. @Scanlonc3, it depends on the chain and its condition. 100 miles is nothing, so if the chain shows no wear, it's absolutely worth stripping and going with immersion wax. Any $50+ chain would be worth it. Heck, even a cheaper chain because it's going to last longer, thereby delaying the purchase of that $50+ chain, right?

[@AlasdairMcLellan]

@@susannawbary5540 No, but you do need to re-strip it traditionally before re-waxing.

[@hugoarraiolos8665]

Ultrasonic was mentioned as a important part of process in the past. Any color on why with this silca heating machine is no longer needed? Thank you

[@WesMacaulay]

I’m an MTBer but a total cycling and science dork, and that new wax additive is hella cool!

[@ThomasLee-l1n]

Can I use the Stripchip to bring back the wax that may have contaminated my crockpot full of wax from the previous chain that may not have been completely de-greased? The rationale is that using Stripchip is cheaper than getting rid of the existing wax that I'm using.

[@ChannelofChase]

@SILCAVelo +1 on this question

[@johannesobernoeder1156]

Pretty interesting stuff. Thank you for this innovative product & of course for your nice explanations as well!

[@philliptodd2832]

Just ordered one. Thank you SILCA for pushing the status quo in bike treatment and maintenance !!

[@jasonlaidlaw9072]

Silca Lord of Wax

[@serendipityrecordco9380]

These products together make the process of switching to wax so much more of a turnkey solution. In fact, a ‘chain wax toolbox’ all in one kit wouldn’t be a bad idea. A lot of cyclists I meet are interested in going to waxed chains but they’re all “Yea, nah” when I get into the chain stripping process. This is dead simple: Oiled chain? Use a chip and the high temp process. The average parent can do this for their bike and the kids park bikes.

[@徐展-f2g]

A few questions for me. First, does it apply to those chains which has just been commonly used in daily riding and has not yet cleaned? Or it only applys to those brand new chains with only factory grease in them? Secondly, when I re-wax these chains, should I add a new bar or just use the former melted wax, or should I melt a new pot of wax? Thank you.

[@JanBusc]

I ride a recumbent, so I would like to know if the new pot can hold 3 chains in one go?

[@SILCAVelo]

I don't think its big enough for that. You might want to look at an InstantPot with SousVide feature, those are also PID controlled and will give you very good temp control in a much larger capacity. amzn.to/3cbxKVJ

[@JanBusc]

thanks!

[@eddiewhittemore3723]

Awesome. Love the nerdy bike science. Thanks Silca!

[@coreyreeder3549]

This is amazing. I’m sticking with the Silca chain lube for now, but this is on the list when I get a new bike

[@minimedic7749]

Would it still be beneficial to use this if I used chain stripper but maybe there is still a fraction of grease left?

[@SILCAVelo]

That is probably fine.. additional strip chip in the wax is non-harmful, but there are hardeners in there to harden the oleogelated oil that may make the wax a bit stiffer than you want if there isn't sufficient oil in the solution to bind it up.

[@DylanGoldbyPhotographer]

Hi guys, I've tried reaching out to your sales team and haven't heard back from them in a week. My wax melter arrived and the box says it's a 110v system, whereas the manual inside says it's a variable 110-240v system. We're on a 220v 50hz grid here. Which of those should I trust? Do I need a step down transformer, or can I just convert the plug and I'm good to go? Don't want to destroy it on first use!

[@SILCAVelo]

What plug does it have? The 110V units all have American plug types, and all other plug types are 220-240V 50hz

[@Charles-jm3dt]

@silcavelo I normally use Super Secret wax and apply using the bag sous vide style in an instant pot. This can get the wax up to 95C or thereabouts but no higher. I just tried the strip chip on a new chain using this method. Will it work? Or will it just remove the factory grease effectively but not gelify properly at a lower temperature than 125C? Or neither? Thanks. Great product!

[@SILCAVelo]

You really need the 125C to fully get the grease to wax conversion.. it might still work somewhat at 95C, especially if you leave it in for longer, but in our testing the results were just not as good or as consistent at lower temperatures.

[@Charles-jm3dt]

Thanks for the reply. Will try leaving it in longer next wax. Presumably whatever hasn’t been used up of the gelling agent will still work

[@mattwalczak5935]

Just got my 'system' and already wanting multiple chain hooks. Is there a way to purchase additional chain hooks?

[@SILCAVelo]

We don't have them yet as we're struggling with capacity, but plan to offer them in the next few months as things settle down! Thanks!

[@mikeainsworth4504]

I have recently decided to set my summer and turbo trainer bikes up with wax when I replace the chains. Only yesterday did my very first order of the chain stripper and super secret wax get delivered! And now it changes.

[@krishartner2168]

Be prepared to have wax shedding on the floor below your indoor trainer. I’ve ended up running a long strip of cardboard on the floor under the drive train.

[@mikeainsworth4504]

@@krishartner2168 thanks.

[@mikeainsworth4504]

@@krishartner2168 thanks.

[@jonathanwise47]

1. Do you still have to dip a chain in boiling water in between waxes? 2. 1 chip per bag? Or dip? 3. Does the machine beep or notify you when it is at temperature?

[@makantahi3731]

you are too demanding, in the next generation of the wax fryer, Josh will lend a voice to announce when the cooking of the chain is finished, so that it does not overcook

[@Cyclist_zh]

Hi Josh, great video and love the chip strip. The whole system looks pretty much the same as the one that Cyclowax released a year or so ago. Can you tell me more about the difference of the two heaters? Or did Silca just want their own Cyclowax heater? ;-)

[@SILCAVelo]

Cyclowax heater is made by same vendor as ours, but they have 400ml capacity and standard thermostatic temp control. We designed a custom, larger capacity liner (600ml) with thicker walls for more even heating and a custom 360 degree heater (also for even heating) and finally we upgrade to a PID control for +/-1 degree temp control to eliminate the risk of overtemp heating as with StripChip we are pushing heats much higher than normal. Theirs works well, ours is just tuned more for our temperature needs, and the added 1cm of diameter and depth makes getting the chain in and out much easier.

[@andreasolsson2336]

@@SILCAVelo I use the cyclowax setup and there is some faffing every waxing just to get the full chain submerged since the diameter of their pot is on the smallish side. Good call Silca!

[@johnnychromatic]

Big difference is that the Cyclowax pot only goes to 95C, but the StripChips require 125C temperature.

[@MrUberboss]

@@andreasolsson2336 Exactly this! Also using the Cyclowax setup and it's super nice and handy but the pot is just a wee bit too narrow, would love to have it a bit wider/deeper.

[@blrun129]

and there is me thinking I would never bother with chain waxing because of all the faff and now its my mission to get my hands on this system - and never ever dealing with a oily chain again

[@matsmorot]

Never tried chain waxing, but this looks very promising! Is it possible to sous-vide in the bag with the StripChip as well? Sounds like it's hitting the right temperature that's the tricky part, without the "tower pot".

[@billmaidment5623]

Please make a full demonstration video explaining how treat both new and used dirty chains.

[@robvanleerdam]

Hello Josh, I am using your wax, stripper and melting system. I use it at 75 degrees Celsius. When I take out the chain it is not as stiff as you show it. Before I used a slowcooker and waited for a starting film over the wax. Back then the chain became as stiff as you showed. Is it a problem that the chain doesn t get as stiff as you showed? Regards

[@BTcycle]

Watching this video after hearing the news from the GCN Tech show.

[@Schwabz33]

Perfect timing for my brand new SRAM XX1 chain.

[@ivanmoreno5283]

Hi Josh, great product, i got it already😀 QUESTION: Could you please explain WHY the quick link can’t be used multiple times? Because in order to wax my chains i have to remove the chains of my bikes and put them back. Do i have to use a new quick link every 2-3 wax cycles???😮

[@adamweb]

Wake up babe, Silca hydrogenated one step chain degreasing wax just dropped!

[@_AJH_]

Something I have been wondering is how to tell if your wax has become too hot and what it would look like afterwards and what are the indicators? These looks like brilliant products, I love the thought that has gone into it to keep improving the process.

[@rogerpembery4281]

A solvent does not break molecules down to be shorter molecules. that is called cracking and is typically done at 600+ Celsius and with a catalyst. A solvent dissolves the molecules, it won't change them.

[@global_nomad.]

now if we can just get waxed chains to work in extended rainy conditions - I'm already using waxed chains but seasonally dependent in the UK - once its raining everyday i'm back on Smoove.

[@ianiscaratti4924]

Would you reccoment to ghetto degrease a new factory chain with a towel or dishwasher before using the Stip Chip or would this worsten the result?

[@Karovaldas]

Can StripChip be used to restore contaminated wax? You mention that putting a new chain into wax without stripping the oil, robs the wax of 15% of it's efficiency. Will putting a square restore that efficiency? Or is wax that has been exposed to oil permanently ruined? Thanks for your innovations!

[@easterguts]

So if I wash a new chain thru a single mineral turps wash, would that improve the strip chip performance and/or make the wax last longer?

[@ComandanteNissaro]

I'm definitely gonna give this a go.

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

Very interesting! I have been using your Super Secret on multiple fat, adventure, and MTB ‘s (TT bike too). I have been thrilled with the performance and the cleanliness in the dirt. These new products (especially the dedicated melting pot) might finally get me to go all in on immersion wax.

[@djaybioh]

After the initial waxing, how to do you top it up? The Super Secret Chain lube? Can I re wax the chain with the secret chain blend or do I now always need to use strip chips as there is a remainder of the chain oil bound to the wax?

[@emilegoguely4032]

Thanks for keeping it affordable* A cooker + wax combo bundle would be neat 😏

[@glenngoodwin3899]

How often do you need to add a square? 1, 2, 10 chains. How does it affect the longevity of the wax, knowing that not all waxes are created equal, would this not change the compound with added solvent based wax?

[@jeskli11]

Probably the least important question, but does the Strip Chip work with any wax in general (like Molten Speed Wax for example), or is it dependable on the formula of the Silca Secret Chain Blend or Hot Wax X?

[@dudeonbike800]

It should. It's simply converting the existing oil & grease molecules to a more "wax-like" molecule so it will work in concert with the wax you're using.

[@a8f235]

I read a reply from you further down the comment section that this product is *_ONLY_* for chains straight out of the wrapper with factory grease. Then this product makes no sense at all because that is 1 of all the times you will be doing something with your chain until it is time to scrap it. That's why it only makes sense to just strip it like normal, as well as not having to buy another product that is complete waste of money because it does only have a one time use.

[@SILCAVelo]

No, read what we're saying, you add this to the normal wax if you want to strip the chain.. it converts the factory grease into wax, and then you just keep using the wax as normal for the rest of it's life.

[@a8f235]

@@SILCAVelo You're saying the same I'm saying just with other words, so read what I'm saying right back at you. You will have to strip the chain when it get contaminated which will be lots of times during the lifespan of a chain, so this product will *_ONLY_* free you from stripping it one of all those times. That's why I see no sense in getting this product because you need to have something to strip chains with anyhow, and what's one extra chain strip going to cost you of agony during an entire lifespan of a chain.

[@floatingnj]

System with UK plug already sold out. Really frustrating but glad it isn’t available! I’ll keep waxing with my old setup until someone comes out with a competing and hopefully cheaper package. Luckily my impulse buy was thwarted!

[@sekc-chua]

Looking forward to your next video on technical aspects of Strip Chip. I would like to find out if the Chain Waxing System warmer can be used outside of the US without additional parts, adaptors, and what-not. I note that it has (only?) the North American plug, which I can change with no issue. What about the input (AC) voltage? Thank you.

[@abmetta66]

In the specs it says us plug, but does not say if it takes 110/220… any chance we can know?? Don’t mind the plug, just want the 220v!

[@jimvee4528]

Josh, this is what I needed to start washing our chains. I bought the entire setup and and it works great. Except, I just did my fourth chain with the strip chip and the original wax and the outside of the chain has kind of a gummy wax coating on it. Did I do too many with same wax or... I'm not sure. I've been trying to sub it off the the microfiber cloth. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[@SILCAVelo]

You might just need more time and swishing of the chain.. we've tested it out to 6 chips/factory chains per 500gm of wax without any change in wax hardness or performance.

[@jimvee4528]

@@SILCAVelo ok. Thanks.

[@kingbidmjz]

Great info for that new factory chain first application, but what about re-waxing. Does one still need to put the chain through the ultrasonic bath before re-waxing?

[@SILCAVelo]

You can just keep putting it back into the wax bath, just be sure to remove any surface dirt first, or if it's really dirty, you boil it in water to remove old wax and dirt.

[@glennmorgan8691]

Great looking products there Josh I can't wait to try!!!On the wax x you say 85c thats good info thx do you know when you'll be putting out a wax x vid on best way to use it?Cheers!!!

[@cosmicpapa]

Amazing gamechanger if this is true !

[@imcbocian]

Can i wash off this "wax like" converted grease with boiling water just like regular wax?

[@koenraaddierckens5010]

Hello Josh, great addition to the line up! Question: would it be OK to always heat the wax to 125C just to make sure all water is driven out of a wet chain that needs to be re-waxed (after a wet ride or hot water cleaning). Followed by a cool down to 75C before taking the chain out of the cooker.

[@Cst519]

Can you eat it? Looks delicious

[@starlitshadows]

This is my question as well 🤤😂

[@Cst519]

​@@starlitshadowsit's a nice chocolate fondue set

[@starlitshadows]

@@Cst519 😂

[@Darth_Firebolt]

My first question: what does the StripChip taste like?

[@DanGuiles-pv7qm]

Hi Josh. I’m a big fan of waxing and this product seems very innovative. However, my question is: can you reuse the wax once you melt the chip into it? Or does that make it a single use product.

[@SILCAVelo]

Yes, you can continue to use the wax after using StripChip, though we do recommend only using 6 chips per 500gm of SecretBlend before replacing.. it should get you 70+ waxings in total.

[@alwAudio]

How critical is the upper temperature? Not sure what temp my slow cooker reaches, so i think ill have to get the thermocouples out to check.

[@SILCAVelo]

The wax can become damaged beyond hope at 140C so it's pretty important, this is why we went with the much more expensive PID control in the pot.. If using a crock pot you definitely need a candy thermometer or similar to ensure you get to 125 but not beyond 130C.

[@michaeldemicco8854]

Josh, you say to heat the wax to 125 deg. C and put the StripChip in. That seems like a very high temperature to expose the wax to. ZFC cautions against overheating the wax as it will break it down. They don't give a temperature but caution against using Rice Cookers, for example . What say yee?

[@michaeldemicco8854]

Oops... I see you answered this below.

[@soulfood_bg]

Hey SILCA team :) Congrats, this is great, great product ... and it's a big deal... revolutionary. Unfortunately I didn't find anywhere info about the hot waxing with secret chain wax and e-mtb. Can you share your thoughts about hot waxing emtb chins. Thank you in advance!

[@SILCAVelo]

Works great and will significantly improve drivetrain life expectancy. Just be sure to re-wax every few hundred Km of clean/dusty riding and after every single wet/muddy ride (which you should also do for other lube types as well)