New 187lb. Wagon Hub From Scratch | Engels Wheelwright

[@clownshoes1214]

I'm a carpenter and welder, and just happened to stumble on your channel and I'm amazed. I saw the other 1000 LBS wheels you made, and these smaller ones now and, wow. I really can appreciate your hard work. You can combine many crafts with ease very talented. I'm impressed.

[@johndavies2396]

Same here he makes it look so easy and we know it's far from that

[@GeneralSulla]

Takes decades to become fully competent. Mr Engels is a National treasure.

[@WormHoleFarming]

Never get tired of watching your work. Blacksmithing, Wood Working, and Welding....What's not to like. Make em' as long as ya want; I'll watch em' till the end.

[@johnking8679]

YUUUP - me, too !!

[@GeneralSulla]

I'm pleased Mr Engels has made a video library for the future. Not a dying art yet, but very specialized nowadays. We used to have a man like this in every town in America. Now...,

[@damiensampson7323]

Your videos are never too long for your fans. We know it must take an immense amount of time and energy to video and edit for us. I just think you are one of the most amazing all-around finished carpenters out there. I am so happy you are doing this for Historical purposes as well. Out of this world amazing work.

[@GeneralSulla]

I binge watch Mr Engels for hours. I save 'em up to watch. Like Christmas all year.

[@timtaylor8406]

I've never seen a profession that combines so many difficult, complicated and different skills. Not to mention film maker, teacher, communicator, businessman. You are amazing.

[@alienescolinas]

I will never complain about how long your videos are, there is so much to enjoy in them.

[@Dave-ty2qp]

Well Dave here it is a couple of years later, and ai watched it ALL over again, and it still wasn't long enough LOL Thanks for the video. I love to watch a crafrsman work on his trade. It's like a ballet

[@andrewmiller2868]

You can make your videos as long as you like (the longer the better really) because I find then endlessly fascinating and will be watching all the through. Thank you Mr. Engels.

[@victorjeffers1993]

No apologies needed for the length of the video I enjoyed it tremendously I've always wondered how the Wagon wheels were made an this gives me some of the answers ! Thank you so much for you taking time to video your craftsmanship I'm a sucker for old westerns an how it must've been alot harder back in the day when they didn't have power tools of today ! It was very educational to me ! Thank you so much ! 👍👍

[@brantmcauliffe9926]

It’s like having a welcomed guest stay for a second cup of coffee.

[@scruffy6151]

That i agree with.

[@ramonvasquez1242]

Thank you for keeping history. Alive well done sir 👍

[@pacificcoastpiper3949]

@@EngelsCoachShop doesn't that make you feel a little bit nervous, having that much rotating mass at such a high speed? It does me!😱 But I am just a pen Turner. Happy turning!!

[@fionafiona1146]

Tee in my case! It's great

[@ediedi7367]

@@ramonvasquez1242 .

[@bluemtnsman]

A little longer than normal is fine. A LOT longer would be even better. Seriously,,, you have a core base of fans who ride with you every week,,, you might say we are addicted even. Once again,,, thank YOU for the efforts and time to make the video.

[@ranchdude4345]

Boy do we ever mind that you make this vid so long Mr. Dave.. DO NOT ever let it happen again!!!!!

[@scruffy6151]

Without putting coffee and cookies out first.

[@lancer2204]

You burnt out my Sarcasm Detector...

[@royreynolds108]

@@scruffy6151 And I was thinking coffee and donuts.

[@scruffy6151]

@@royreynolds108 to keep everybody happy we can serve both lol.

[@MrSoarman]

They lost the mold when craftsman like this were made, what does the future hold for this craft, as I see it the apprenticeship alone has to be 10 years, if not longer, my hat off to you sir, I love your videos.

[@joenet42567]

The longer the better as far as i'm concerned. Never get tired watching the process.

[@nicolasmaximinoespinozaten8551]

Excelentes enseñanzas y resultados. Gracias y felicidad. Saludos

[@bertchapeau7702]

YOUR EXTREME TALENTS ARE SO APPRECIATED BY FELLOW CARPENTERS LIKE MYSELF I ADMIRE THE PRECISE WORK YOU DO AND ONLY WISH I COULD HAVE WORK WITH YOU WHEN I DID MY APPRENTICESHIP I AM NOW APPROACHING 81 YEARS AND WOULD HAVE LIKED TO BEEN TAUGHT YOUR TRADE. FAITHFUL WATCHER, JIM R. CHAPEAU, AKA BERT.

[@cawensil3264]

There are those of us that don't mind the longer ones. We love watching the master work.

[@mazdaman1286]

After a long week of dealing with people who should have ordered two weeks ago and now want it yesterday and demanding to be put in front of those who did, I am sitting with my feet up eating a nice Chinese meal with a beer and no telephone ringing watching a craftsman at work. If you make them I'll watch them . Thanks very much .

[@aussiecro.]

Amazing stuff to watch....very well done and it just goes to show how much work is involved with this trade!

[@davegower123]

Am I the only one who comes back to watch these videos a second (or more) time wishing there was a way to tap “like” again? Love you work! Cheers! 🍻👍😊

[@outbackcountry512]

Ahhh ! Friday evening enjoying some fine craftsmanship after a long off and on stressful week , and I certainly don't mind a longer video , this stuff is more educational and enjoying than what they offer on TV , you learn by watching , listening and trying it first hand yourself . Attention to detail is always key . Did my first engine partial rebuild last weekend , if not for my neighbor taking time to guide me thru the stuff I was Leary about , would not been able to get my daughter's car back up running to full snuff . Those that take the time to demonstrate , explain and practice what they preach are the best teachers . Keep those great vids coming Dave and Thanks for sharing !

[@donsmallegan8821]

The best way to distress I know of!

[@jerrycraig3737]

Anybody bored by the length of your video does not understand and appreciate CRAFTSMANSHIP! No CNC, no CAD, just old reliable machines and a wealth of experience. A grinder and welder are about the only nods to more modern times, but enjoying this is timeless. Thank you and I hope that your skills are passed on.

[@demonknight7965]

speaking for my self I'd watch them if they were 8 hours long.

[@tonyktx44]

same here....

[@BillB23]

me three...

[@royreynolds108]

me four.

[@WayneT51]

5

[@rtkville]

Count me in too.

[@donwilliams3626]

I am in awe just watching the skill and precision one has to master to be a wheelwright. I can't imagine how anyone could turn a tree trunk into a wagon wheel using only hand tools in a frontier environment.

[@DonnaMSchmid]

I watched every second, and every second (as usual) was fascinating! Don't apologize for the length of your videos, PLEASE! (Just keep making them!)

[@0623kaboom]

@@EngelsCoachShop tbh that was a perfect length ... long enough to feel satisfaction when it is done and not feel like it was rushed or that we missed something ... and short enough not to need a planned time to watch it

[@suesmith5746]

Your long video was great. You showed us a very complex and exacting piece of work. I do not like long videos where the creator has just stretched it out to get more viewing minutes. You condensed it as much as possible. You could have made a video that long on just the turning (i'm a turner) you showed enough for us to get the idea and moved on. I loved your sling support on the lathe Thank you for making such clear and to the point educational videos. You have given me some ideas on repairing a spinning wheel. I can make the parts individually, but fitting together properly so it will last another 100 years is something else.Great video by a great craftsman.

[@gsaunds100]

“It’s a little longer than normal, so I hope you don’t mind.” Are you KIDDING me? I LOVE this stuff!

[@KPearce57]

Much better than what's on TV !

[@gordonmcmillan883]

We are glued to it, regardless of the length.

[@lepompier132]

You said it, no matter the length we were glued to watch it.

[@minhdang3025]

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[@j.mahoney1178]

A supreme craftsman at work, I rarely if ever make such a statement, but I'm envious of this man's skill knowledge and lifestyle.

[@williampugh6699]

Your videos could be three hours long, I would watch them.

[@T3SKATLIPOC4]

...but, how were they made with out power machines? and electricity, becouse electric power came first, wasn't it?

[@Nshwee]

Hammer and chisel Mr.@@T3SKATLIPOC4 !

[@ronaldwhittaker6327]

exactly!

[@bobhazzard7747]

@@T3SKATLIPOC4 Water powered lathes and boring tools existed in the 18th century. The welding was a lot harder :)

[@nenkjemping6602]

@@T3SKATLIPOC4 xs

[@Renville80]

Stuff like this is infinitely better and more interesting than the pablum that is on TV these days. Keep them videos coming!

[@jonpanzarella1221]

I would like to be good at just one of the crafts that you use every day. Thank you for great videos!

[@alasdairmunro1953]

That mortiser sure does some hard work for you. Imagine doing those by hand.

[@Rspri10104]

Always enjoy your videos. 30 min is time well spent when it's one of your videos.

[@msheaver]

Mind??? Who are you kidding??? Every Friday evening after a long week at the office, I unwind with a home-cooked meal watching your wonderful video. You have no idea how much joy they give us!

[@scottpecora371]

What ever you're charging, it's not enough! Enjoyed every minute, and it could be twice as long.

[@dirk4926]

I didn't mind the longer video one little bit...actually I rather enjoyed it. I don't get tired of watching you work.

[@paulhammond7489]

I'd be still happy if this was live streamed :) then I could watch it all day long :)

[@scruffy6151]

Lol. Then we could b.s. while Dave works.

[@brw3079]

I'd never get anything done!

[@brw3079]

How's your back after rasslin' a 187 pound hub?!? Mine hurts just watching!!!

[@albionwatts6000]

@@EngelsCoachShop Amen to that..trouble is my head keeps telling me that I AM twenty something, 50 years behind what my body tells me after lifting my metal sculptures around. Take care Dave.

[@rytvdinners5064]

My head writes checks my body can't cash...

[@Crewsy]

I am pretty sure no one is complaining that the video is too long but I guess you see the analytics that show some people have very short attention spans and only watch a certain length of time. I will never complain about one of your videos being too long Dave. The work you do completely fascinates me and I could watch you for hours.

[@rlm98253]

Longer is good and welcomed.

[@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078]

I didn't notice the "Extra" 10 minutes. It was over before I was ready, just like always. I certainly cannot see where you could have cut anything out. The magic in a movie or a TV episode is a good story, well told. This is a good un. I could probably watch you sit and just talk about the tools for an hour. Well, I might pause it to get another cup of coffee or tea; because I wouldn't want to miss anything. I can smell the wood shavings, the sulfur from the coal fired forge, the hot iron, and the quenching oil. You are bringing us right into your world; and that's a fine place to be. Way better than sitting at a crowded bus stop, smelling diesel fumes and waiting for half an hour on the Express into downtown Pittsburgh.

[@charlescartwright6367]

I am always impressed with your eye for things, Long ago we used calipers and scale (not vernier or digital) and developed a feel for them and thinking back it was amazing just what tolerances we could see and feel. I may be the Jack of all trades, but you are the Master of many. Don't worry about the time, at 80 I can watch someone work for hours and it doesn't bother me at all.... Thank you for sharing.

[@malinozr926]

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[@samwaskito6205]

The secret of skill... by long experiences

[@careymitchell4731]

I'm catching up with you, but I would love to spend a few weeks in his shop donating free labor just for the entertainment.

[@charlescartwright6367]

@@careymitchell4731 I'm afraid now I would just be in the way, but yes it would be a treat wouldn't it!

[@spideybrent]

Longer videos are great more the merry. Thanks it’s such a pleasure watching a master craftsmen.

[@todaywefly4370]

So when is the movie length show coming. We’ll all watch.

[@clydebalcom8252]

Hell yeah! You said it!

[@fionafiona1146]

There won't ever be enough seasons.

[@emilzaharencu1686]

¹3½

[@jerrywatson7176]

I do not think there is another person on this earth that could do this better than you , somewhere there may be someone almost as good but I doubt that. I have not watched one of your videos that I have not been impressed by your abilities , you are # 1!!!

[@carmelpule6954]

As I spent the earlier years of my 80-year-old living with my uncle building heavy wooden boats, I can appreciate all the craftsmanships and skills this gentleman applies. He is a brilliant man who does not only knows his woods, but he knows his metallurgy at the manner he welds and dips those hoops in the oil, and reheat them to fit. Looking at this wheel, I cannot help wondering about its total strength and toughness. No doubt there is a good robust hub. Being an engineer who often tested items to destruction to check their strength, as they do in jet engines, all done for the safety of people I was wondering about the weakness of this hub. Looking at the 18 rectangular parallel holes in which the 18 spokes will fit, I am wondering if the wooden material left to tie the two side central discs of the wheel together would hold in the long run when that heavy wagon which will be loaded with at least five tons swinging laterally at axis level height, there will be a shearing/tensile stress in the wooden material between the spokes which would take a tension stress to parallel with the axle of the wheel. Seeing that there exist those two large low carbon iron hoops close to the spokes I wonder if these two hoops would be linked by welding/rivetting a number of straps that go between the spokes and so any side/ lateral acceleration or deceleration of the load on rough grounds would strengthen the weakness of the hub in the 18 links between the two side discs. I feel that the heavy iron hoops give more than ample strength to the stress they are designed to take, but those hoops and the central bearing seems to be too strong compared to the weakness of the woods between the spokes. Please note that my comment has nothing to do with the abilities and craftsmanship in which this hub was made. I am only suggesting a manner in which such a strong hub could be improved in its engineering weakness designed over 200 years ago. Again, congratulations to Engels Wheelwright for such high craftsmanship and skills and the manner he manually lifts such heavy load when the need arises. He is a man of great logic, reason and rational thinking. Well done.

[@joshdrexler8773]

Carmel Pule. I believe wagons such as these ran at something like 5 mph on what were effectively "negative rails," i.e deep ruts in dirt roads made by the passage of wagons just like the one that would have used this hub. Thus lateral stresses would have been somewhat constrained. Since such wagons had very high centers of gravity I would expect the drivers to have slowed down even further on turns. Thus I would expect primary stress loads would have been radial, the result of solid axle technology, when a wheel on one side encountered a bump or dip not present on the other side and the axle was forced to cant out of parallel to the ground. I assume that the internal metal hub was there as a bearing, to reduce friction and wear, not for strength per se. It needed to be so thick because it would have been made of fragile cast iron, for lubricity. Not sure whether the preload created by the steel bands served a purpose or not, but it's possible that compressing the wood fibers under the bands would have encouraged them to expand at the mortices, causing the hub to tighten up around the spokes. Just some thoughts.

[@Blogengezer]

@@joshdrexler8773 -Depicted in documented traveler details, thoroughly 'wetting' the wagon wheels subjected to dry climates while en-route, became routine daily, to swell and tighten all joints. Western arid territories, deserts were especially brutal for easterners unaware of such tendencies for loosening.

[@Sootmaker]

Longer videos? YES PLEASE!

[@royreynolds108]

I like how you put the music in so we could still hear what was going on.

[@ЛддажДжужк]

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[@deezynar]

Over 74,000 people have clicked on this video so far. I know that I'm a bit strange, but I have no idea what excuse all the other folks have for watching. I have been interested in wagon building for several years, and really enjoy watching someone skilled make these things.

[@chris3m98]

I have watched this 2 times now, never too long Dave!

[@Tallinu]

Not sure how I came to be viewing videos about wagon wheels. But You Tube has this rabbit hole... There is a reason though that you were brought to my attention. You make things and you have a lot of likes and views. I am pretty sure I will not be repairing anything wagon related anytime soon but I would happily listen and watch you do almost anything and or share a cup of coffee or sit down to dinner with someone like you and appreciate what you do without needing to do it myself. I'm glad I get to share a little bit of your craft and meet a genuine character that I would happily fetch that tool for or crack a fresh cold one with.

[@bigfred1696]

As always..... awesome skills... I really enjoyed the metal lathe techniques on wood. Camera work is excellent as well...thanks Dave

[@robertgilbert1987]

Ah...think you will find that wood lathes were in use long before metal ones were. IMHO

[@kennethbransford820]

This guy is way smarter then I will ever be. What a great video. Thank you Mr. Engel.

[@not1prohere]

I enjoy watching your videos. Has a few has said already I would watch no matter the length.

[@ladamyre1]

You don't have to apologize for the length of the video. I have a file I DL all of your videos into. It has sub-folders named "Water Wagon" and "Borax" in it. I'll often load up the whole series in one of them and spend a marathon video afternoon and evening watching you craft your craft. I'm surprised you don't have a million subscribers.

[@clarencegreen3071]

Well done in all regards! Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Amazing work! !

[@timthomas9105]

As a boy, Saturday at the Westerns. Was glued to the TV. Had a love of that lifestyle. Then 30 years in Electronics. Being retired, woodworking, leathercraft and a little metal work. My Son is the welder. Didn't mind the length of the video. That's a huge hub. With my disability I can't lift 187 pounds, not anymore. You're a great Craftsman. Thanks for letting me watch how thee are made. Truly, this was on my, what I call, "I WONDER", list. I wonder how Wagon wheels are made is crossed out. Thanks.

[@peterseely9311]

Yes sir e bob, I'd watch stuff like that all day long too...just keep on posting videos like that...😎

[@vincentwesolowski459]

Dear Dave, Don’t concern yourself about making a video too long. I enjoy watching you make anything in your shop. I enjoy seeing your homemade tools, jigs, machinery and most of all, your attention to detail and pride in your work. Vince

[@MARKLOCKWOOD2012]

I just enjoy watching the hubs to the wheels get made it’s neat.

[@karenglatz185]

What you are watching here folks is what you call a true craftsman. Very impressive sir.

[@BillB23]

Shoot, Dave, I've binge-watched the Borax build. This is just a warm up. Keep 'em coming.

[@bristol8920]

........ love seeing those old heavy duty tools being worked just built to last , just baffled at the simplicity of the circumference tool that can measure and give great results in the hands of someone who know how to use it....another great video .................U.K.........

[@chriskythreotis4686]

Just love all the specialist tools you use ..fantastic 👍🇬🇧

[@Kenkamerman]

The stuff you can learn on KZbin. This is incredible. What a craftsman.

[@JWimpy]

Can you imagine back in the day when they had to chisel all those mortises by hand?

[@Uswesi1527]

Undoubtedly, the master craftsman demonstrated his knowledge, skills, experience, in design, planning, accurate measurements.and professionalism. Thanks

[@ronaldedwards5730]

Your video are so interesting that who could mind if they are long, the longer the better

[@amarillohomebrewing4602]

No matter how long, I watch and learn. Make them longer and we will watch. Every item we watch is watching an master artist at work. Would be interested in learning how wheels were made in the past comparing the process with not having modern tools to help with the milling process. I can not get enough and go back and watch the past videos again. Thanks for sharing.

[@amarillohomebrewing4602]

@@EngelsCoachShop After watching the 20 mule wagons build (Death Valley Days TV shows), I find myself looking at wagons In the old western movies to see what kind they are and seeing detail I have never looked for and I get disappointed when I see a wagon burning. I have done living history (ca 1874 horse cavalry) and now appreciate the wagons that we used even more now. Thanks again ! ! !

[@bugzie-a1769]

You can make the videos as long as you wish, I still watch them all, how old was you when you started working in this type of work, was you an apprenticed ?

[@rickwalling1148]

A very talented craftsman that makes you want to watch all day! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@gpetheri]

I'm pretty sure we'd all watch even if it was a full length live feed.....

[@russelallen5342]

Too long? No way! I could watch your work all day! Many thanks!

[@grandpadan4615]

Never too long! I would enjoy watching you sharpen a pencil for 15 minutes!

[@bramklaassen3999]

I can watch you for hours I don't get sore arms or tired love your videos thanks for sharing 😎

[@brw3079]

My Dad always said, "Work smarter, not harder!". It looks like you have learned that lesson too!

[@howardschaefer1445]

Hi Dave. Not only was it not too long I had to go back and re-watch the Borax wagons wheels being made. Interesting!

[@ranchdude4345]

When you first started spraying I could not tell if you were using a water hose, or a air hose.

[@ranchdude4345]

@@EngelsCoachShop DAAAAA!!

[@slashusr]

And worth every single minute! To watch as you manipulate and shape a great baulk of timber and thick steel into the central component of one of humanity's most important inventions with such precision and economy of effort is hypnotic and, as others here below have stated, something I would happily watch even were it hours long!. I've said it before but I'll say it again: The art and science you conserve for us all is more important than any iPhone or artificial, digital economy. The future holds what? Who knows? But there will always be a need for man to move himself, his family, and all his goods from A to B, relying on a hub that will last for a hundred years and more. Thank you a thousand times over!

[@jamesogorman3287]

I’d be curious about how long that log had been drying and what you would do if you didn’t have time to wait for it to dry naturally.

[@billpulvermacher2036]

@@EngelsCoachShop Dave, I'm wondering if once you rough turn, is the treating like packing away in damp shavings sort of thing?? My father uses this technique for turning beautiful bowls... Just curious.

[@PilotMcbride]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaate!!! What an epic project!! Length? The longer the better. Sure beats sitting in the rafters with a cooler full of beer, lmao!! You'd keep hosing us down & huntin' us out, 🤣🤣🤣. Dave this is absolutely brilliant. Your work is really, really interesting to us, your viewers. You do it everyday, but we have to wait, and the end results you achieve are absolutely amazing. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your profession with us, really appreciate the effort. 🇦🇺 🍺🍺

[@bigredc222]

That looks about the size of the Borax wagon wheels.

[@grahambeech5576]

It's always nice to watch a craftsman at work.

[@maggs131]

30 minute video. This is unacceptable to the point I've reported this video several times with different accounts. I'm kidding of course. But just look at all the genuine complaints below. Oh there is none 🤔 it seems people enjoy your videos no matter the length. 💗

[@troycooper3513]

You can make a 2 hour video of just looking at a pile of sawdust on the floor and I would watch it. The world needs more Engels Coach Shop.

[@caveman1334]

Growing up watching my grandad doing exactly the same but bit different things . 60 years ago in Yugoslavia Thank you for keeping the craft alive

[@tommyhumkey1044]

My great Grandfather Owned Marion County buggy and wagon works in Marion Co. Kentucky. My dad told me stories of when he was young boy getting to go to the shop on Saturdays to clean up. Watching you gives me an idea of what my great Grandfather did for a living. And for that , I say thank you.

[@stefanwalfridsson5524]

Just found this channel. Not that I am interested in wagon wheels. But I like craftmanship. And this man is a master craftman

[@squishy312]

Your content is so informative and well edited, most people wouldn't notice the length. Another youtube channel that I watch, Pure Life for Living, frequently has 40 minute videos, and I watch every minute. If you ever need any help with computers or need anything 3D printed, let me know. I'm in Billings, (and my grandma lived in Joliet).

[@stillratz]

Its a pleasure watching a craftsman at work.

[@iaenmor]

Watching a Master working at his craft. Oh heck yes. You take as long as you like, I will be here watching.

[@ldgrmp]

I enjoy the longer videos. I get to watch more of the master craftsman at work. God bless.

[@GeneralSulla]

I find it interesting that we once had a blacksmith/wheelwright/livery shop in almost every town in America and now what Mr Engels does is considered by many to be functional art.

[@markthompson6756]

Really enjoy the longer videos

[@twin40dave]

You sit are a true Artisan... I could watch you all day

[@raymondcollyear4773]

You are a true artist. Anyone who doesn't think so should try and do what you do. Your a master wood worker ,blacksmith and mathemation. When men like you retire we will be losing a lot of history . It's a shame schools don't give children a chance to learn these talents. I wish you well. I enjoy your videos.

[@scruffy6151]

That was 31 minutes sure seemed a lot shorter. I have been known to stand in a shop alot longer watching somebody work. Time is irrelevant when you enjoy what you are watching. Thank you Dave for the enjoyable video.

[@demonrathunter]

It wasn't long, It was relaxing to watch a pro at work !

[@bradchampion8072]

Don't worry about the length of the video just like everyone else has said we would watch them till the Cows come Home. I love watching the Lathe cut the wood and seeing it take shape it's just Amazing!

[@shaddec55]

Can honestly say 10 extra minutes is a bonus. Fascinating stuff! I'm with most of the other commenters on this: I'd gladly watch a feature-length film of you creating these works of art that are built to work hard and last for decades doing that work.

[@allenkuester781]

What a real skill set ,,, Beautiful work,, I hope it lives on,,, a lot of old skills are gone forever,,,, thanks