New 2020 BMW M1000RR vs Ducati V4R: Which Superbike Would You Choose?

[@bruceleong9534]

Heart says Ducati. Head says BMW. Bank manager says Yamaha MT07.

[@motobob]

Same mate. A used, high mileage MT07

[@BoopBobBeep]

Wallet says Bajaj Pulsar 150.

[@regularguyfritz9450]

Bruce Leong 😂

[@patthonsirilim5739]

@@motobob dont worry it will still be more reliable then both of them new

[@david.2246]

Bank account says Monocycle.

[@junhyundai]

Let's be honest, we want both of em. 😊

[@motobob]

It’s the sensible thing to do. What if one needs servicing? You need a second bike

[@robc1014]

MOTOBOB not only that sir, consider the safety, riding the same bike everyday could make a rider complacent day to day. A 2nd bike is necessary to keep us on our toes. If anything its as important as a decent helmet.

[@motobob]

@@robc1014 thankyou, rob, for taking the time to enlighten me. i'm always grateful for assistance in my journey to become a safer rider.

[@muhammadpandu7004]

😁

[@vishwav20]

Aaah! My kind of people, my kind of intent and my kind of discussion!

[@christopherupons95]

Up front, I am independent shop owner and have been a motorcycle tech for 30+ years. I bought a 2020 S1000RR with the M package. Mostly because I ride street and track. After riding both the Ducati V4 and the BMW, I liked the very user friendly power of the BMW for street rides. I will admit, the Ducati is nimble regardless of rpm and you can feel the difference at speed (aka my reason for going all out and getting the M package with carbon wheels). The other reason for going with the BMW is cost, I have all the the equipment and tools to maintain the BMW and that is not the case with Ducati (Ducati love their special tools). To be honest, both these bikes are far better then I am a rider but let’s be honest, if you can’t keep the front wheel down with 200hp, who cares if you 30hp of unused hp? Both are amazing motorcycles with scalpel sharp handling and more powerful then the law of physics will let you use, out of the box are far better then most of us are riders, what are you drawn to is the deciding factors.

[@04T100]

Hats off to this comment

[@purpleprince2598]

I've never been on a Superbike, but I like them both. For my understanding from playing games, the BMW is fast and is very good at turns in my opinion. Although I've always liked Ducati. In actuality, I'd go with both.

[@LoveBikesDorel]

I chose the one with the fuel gauge at least 😅

[@steph2k1uk]

I really like the BMW.

[@juliaromanuk]

full Akrapovic titanium exhaust, $8000 installed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzLh4p6g86HoLs

[@jan8651]

i like ducati

[@rimtasvilnietis2991]

Bmw is way to go, ducati is italian crap with a service nightmare

[@joshualevi]

Very well done! I owned a 2018 V4S and now own a 2019 V4S. I really like the look of the new BMW M1000 and all the carbon makes it a great value. That being said, I think I’d still take my V4S over either of those. Mine is very heavily modified. Full system, DTC Evo2, Carbon wheels, 520 chain conversion. If you ever find yourself in Oregon, look me up! You can take mine for a spin and I will take you down to Motocorsa to check out their offerings.

[@marcusbarnes5929]

Does your V4 get hot under the seat. Some people say it's unbearable at street speeds.

[@Pushin-P007]

But does the M1000r price is too over priced Compared to S1000r just bcs the Bhp is lil high and has carbon Fibre besides that I don't think there's any difference

[@Pushin-P007]

Go do a smackdown with 650ib He got all the bikes and are fully tuned to the most

[@heybird5660]

The red one. Everybody knows red ones are faster.

[@wanderer54796]

Let's see When M 1000 RR launched.

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

A man after my own heart

[@HappyGilmour1010]

BMW will smash a VR4

[@ducati]

;)

[@sklite6823]

@@ducati Damn, didn't expect to find you guys here

[@CG-cw3ps]

After the 748S and 1198 and all of the issues experienced.. and considering all of the creature comforts that come BASE on the Bimmer... def the M1000RR.. .. although the V4 is the one that feels more thrilling.

[@90MinutenLang020Damsko]

I think they both are incredible rockets and technical masterpieces, WOW!

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

Used base model v4 plus upgraded brakes, suspension, exhaust, tune and carbon wheels is where it's at.

[@phammanh2689]

lol the red paint alone already gave the V4R extra 20HP :))

[@nuruddin1991]

It's like choosing between your parent for me

[@charleykeate2060]

But one always let's you get away with more 🤣

[@tron1007r]

@@charleykeate2060 The Ducati is the one that will pay your way through college.

[@tron1007r]

This choice is easy. Do the math. All that effort to copy technology and they can't even mirror half the downforce with bigger wings and they want 30k+. The Ducati is a better bike by far. The dealer said with all the options it would be 38k for the BMW. Man no way is that bike equal to the V4R that's 40k. I have the V4R and the S1000RR. Both loaded with after market parts. That V4R is missing a couple of parts from Superleggra but I'll take my V4R with my wheels. My weight difference is now less than 10 pounds from the Superleggra.

[@CG-cw3ps]

That's a good one haha

[@johnnyblaze1372]

@@tron1007r the other Reason the Engine ist better and more durablle on the v4 r i see 2 Engine blowin on tge s1000rr 2019 on Track and one on the Street.In the SBK acctually Ducati dont have a Engine lost BMW one each Rider and A lot Technical Issuise in the SBK.

[@mcorley187]

I own a 2021 m1000rr. BrenTune stage 1 with full exhaust. I absolutely love it. The bike is so smooth compared to my R1M. Not to mention it will fly.

[@scottlincoln6286]

Great video, both bikes are beautiful - I can't choose

[@ducati]

Take a stroll to your local Ducati dealer, book a test ride, then let us know ;)

[@scottlincoln6286]

@@ducati huh....I own one player, and another one on order....but thanks though

[@ducati]

@@scottlincoln6286 💪

[@worldhello1234]

@12:17 None of them. MV Agusta RVS. It will hold its value pretty value because it is a limited edition and you can enjoy it every day without feeling the need to play Rossi.

[@c.g.c2067]

I'd go for the Ducati... more heart, looks and charme

[@rajatsikri2296]

its between screamers and roarers. And my heart goes to red roaring beast

[@Pedroalves-bb4kr]

Ducati, NO QUESTION! I have an evo 859 and I will never go back to in-line 4cyl , the the sound the design and backfires of ducati are music!

[@adamschannel8685]

What’s an evo 859?

[@Kostak3]

@@adamschannel8685 Google man

[@adamschannel8685]

@@Kostak3 I think it’s a car.....

[@Kostak3]

@@adamschannel8685 Ducati model

[@adamschannel8685]

@@Kostak3 ah! Thanks mate

[@wolverine1854]

I would choose V4R as it's my Top Dream bike because it has outstanding looks+great power+that V4 sound (especially that 5:20 😍♥️)

[@TheTektronik]

I just love the twin pulse firing order of the Ducati.

[@ravenmoto5948]

Owning a Ducati is like dating a supermodel. You can ride her hard but to many headaches and high maintenance!

[@ShaneHolly]

You can't go wrong with either.. Awesome!

[@tomcierijr.1448]

I'd buy the Ducati, Gotta love the Italian's...👍

[@d_lac01o48]

I like the sound of an in-line 4... I'd go for the BMW

[@juliaromanuk]

I upgraged exhaust with Akrapovic full titanium $8000 installed. Girl rider here guys, I went with V4 👍like and comment back!👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaCpf2qnjLZpd5I

[@purpleprince2598]

Both

[@joejay2876]

Never understood when some say, "you can't take this bike to its limits..." One simple limit: go through the gears, stay on 6th and peg the throttle to see how fast it can go, hit the rev. limiter, and you have taken the bike to one of its limits; straight line speed. Did it with all my bikes (GSXR1000s and S1000RRs). Obviously, the initial statement refers to one being able to take the bike around a given track and take advantage of all bike's characteristics and prowess without going over the edge and crashing.

[@karon4471]

Such a great detailed review with so much technical knowledge, data comparison and great video sound quality. Kudos👌👍😘

[@Docdog-dd1MB]

Recently ride with friend who has the previouse model S1000RR with upside down gears it is crazy bike. I was on my Hayabusa ,on first and second gear I pull him , but by the third I do not see him no more, is passing me like a blade. Despite my 350 pound against his 210 the Busa is ok. I am not very familiar with the Ducati and in general with the Italians bikes. If I have to choose will take BMW. Right now I am happy with my Busa, not so expensive and very reliable. In the 98 I become to know personally Mr. De Biaggio from Ducati on the exposition in Munich, Germany. At that time use to have Kawasaki Ninja 750 GPZr. He invited me to take my gear to visit Borgo Panigale and to ride the Ducati products at that time. I never find a Time to do that visit and now I am very, very unhappy. The video is made with a knowledge to the details and my opinion is very impressive. From the time I spend in Germany (10 Years) , I can tell you , Italian cars, bikes , trucks have beutifull forms, esteticaly are satisfaction for the eye, but technically bad , example what they say about the FIAT products ( " F " ehler " I " n "A " lle " T " eile ) that means, Mistakes in every Part). The German Products, Kwadratisch, Praktisch , Gut ( Quadratical, Practical and Good ( reliable)!

[@flacohernandez4380]

The BMW looks just like every other Japanese litre bike with different colors. The V4R is the most beautiful bike i have ever seen

[@ShaneHolly]

Thats a bit harsh.. but to each their own..

[@flacohernandez4380]

@@ShaneHolly I mean compared to the ducati it does not have any unique looking features. Besides the BMW badge

[@flacohernandez4380]

@@ShaneHolly Just my own opinion btw

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

I’m a Ducati man myself but prefer the V4SP over the V4R. The V4 Superleggera is the best looking bike that I’ve ever seen.

[@andresantel2137]

BMW anyday, great bike it's versatile❤️💖

[@niranjanmcky8940]

I didn't likes the s1000RR that much , but this M1000RR is super cool , I would pick with over Ducatti.

[@roadrash76]

I chose the M1000RR. Because that's the one that was available the dealership near me. I did however buy a 2022 Panigale V2 Troy Bayliss so I'm grateful.

[@AkashGupta-pc2cb]

Ok. Everything is same except Ducati's edge on power, weight and looks❤️❤️❤️ Thanks for the video .

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

And price 😬

[@williambrown6080]

Except the BMW is lighter, has a higher rear wheel hp figure in standard trim but can't argue looks, Panigale models are thee most beautiful bikes in the world.

[@c_dubbzz6127]

I’d buy a v2 panigale and actually be able to ride it without dying lol.

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

Dude even a v2 is still crazy lol. More like a supersport s is reasonable

[@c_dubbzz6127]

@@TheG60528XiJinPing I know lol.

[@froggo5374]

Super sport will still kill you buy a Yamaha r1 if you die you die faster or a TURBO HAYABUSA it will send you off with YEET energy

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

@@froggo5374I was talking about what to get after you know your way around a turbo BuSa and have some experience on that platform. If your first bike isn't a turbo BuSa then your already setup for failure and you may as well get the R1 with no low end torque.

[@davem.2788]

Already owned the BMWS1000RR. Ducati is next.

[@thugygaming]

I love how Ducati looks and how it's nimble But I would go for BMW

[@trademarked8320]

I bought a v4s because I’m too lazy to make suspension adjustments, but I also only ride on the street. My only complaint is that the frame can burn you through Kevlar pants.

[@dannypipaliya3569]

V4 anytime for pure sound or a cross plane

[@EpicTube84]

Those bmw hawk eyes head lights always get me

[@riththy4778]

BMW♥️

[@alanbaldwin1235]

i swapped a v4r in for an m1000rr , both incredible bikes , for everyday road use the M shades it with the superb engine response under 7000 rpm . Fitting akra race headers is a must on the M , it sounds tinny and too quiet with the cats still on , and i hate the over revving on start up .

[@andrzejtubylski9527]

Ducati is a work of art!

[@jackdoe3889]

The definition of art is that it must have no function, other than being art.

[@wayneoriordan6749]

I've had bmw current got a 1299 I nearly brought a v4 last year but I kept my 1299 because it seemed more better power delivery but ile be honest most fun bike ive had is a zx10r that bike I wish I kept

[@souravsatheesh235]

Aprilia when r u gonna come out with a monster to compete with these two!! 😁😁🔥🔥

[@user-kr8ce2vd6t]

@@billyracks no eicma my friend this year , cause covid

[@annon-ski7985]

And by compete you mean destroy.

[@souravsatheesh235]

@@annon-ski7985 😁😁 Just being easy on rivals 😂😜🔥

[@muhannadaltunisi3651]

The M for sure 🔥

[@roberthall1437]

G'day Bob. Great work on this video. I'll never be able to afford the Duc or the BMW but they are beautiful to look at. For the well heeled only i'm afraid. I'll stick to my Triumph Striple 765 R thank you.

[@paulswann3499]

The ducati just edges it for me as I am a bit biased as I own a panigale

[@jackofalldenton4347]

Just went to look at POSSIBLY trading my v4 in for a BMW but after looking at the s1000rr I just don’t think the quality is there for me to do it especially without the heated grips and cruise control.

[@przemyslawlach9933]

Ducati V4 sound 👂is awesome 😋

[@andrelima5124]

Yeah the V4R is the one but damn that 4 zylinder soundtrack is so good even with stock exhaust

[@davidg1230]

As a pure styling exercise and visual experience its hard to beat the Italian style in the Ducati. I imagine very few would be taken on track by private individuals. Both bikes are amazing and the technology in both looks incredible. Is this a similar exercise by manufacturers for 'Top Trumps' as the recent crop of big cruisers? ( R18 and Rocket 3) In reality the sales number is going to be very small? Great to see them pushing the limits of whats possible on a bike now and they seem to be catching up with car design and technology.

[@motobob]

R18 v Rocket is a vid I want to make. But not a voiceover - actual bikes

[@ChunDayOfficial]

In-line 4 always be the king of engine sounds. But V4. Is my choice

[@troymarchant8466]

I had the 2018 Aprilia v4RF, i now own the BMW 1000rr, the BMW hands down is the better all round bike!

[@romualdlarney6053]

The way to go is a standard model with upgrades...wraping...fairings... Winglets...slip on light wheels...etc...N that's it N used...like i'm doing with a V4 🍕 pizza 🍕 2k18 with love from Paris bro...

[@MegaNolleke]

Finaly a beemer that looks good, but i'd choose the Ducati because of their passion for sportsbikes, styling details ànd heritage with many titles in WSBK and motoGP... But in the end both too expensive for me I'm afraid...

[@stuarth43]

my last was a k1200 gt, i am 75 and ill, I may just buy the m and pile it into a gumtree at max speed, THE WAY TO GO

[@michaeljkasnter]

2021-V4R is not out yet !! It will have the V-4 Superleggera Electronics so was told to wait!!

[@ogremair803]

Source?

[@BTrain-is8ch]

The electronics don't matter on the street and the slick/race electronic upgrade is better on the track. No real reason to wait.

[@vastykhiangte6960]

Why not buy superlggera.. It's the best.

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

2021 V4R is unchanged aside from that so doesn’t mean much to me.

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

@@vastykhiangte6960 It’s also 150000 Euros.

[@mrp3930]

i like both, but it would be nice if the BMW had a similar short exhaust like the Duke but that's a minor thing, but given the choice i'd choose the BMW

[@SSRaskar]

I already have streetfighter on order so ill go for the BMW to feel the inline 4.

[@steveflor9942]

I wouldn't want to have to deal with 16 Desmodromic valves. Though, the V4 sounds nicer. Love them both.

[@shreenathan2144]

BMW 💕💕💕

[@pete6705]

I really can’t choose. Both have more performance than I could ever use, and both look pretty equally awesome.

[@thedragonofechigo7878]

A regular s1000rr is more performance than anyone could ever use.

[@LivingYourBestLife2]

BMW M1000RR...much stylish,much technology...and love the more carbon !!!

[@johntaylor1341]

if they were priced exactly the same then the v4r but I still love my s1000rr.

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

Good choice. I think its the best looking of the two.

[@bigred8438]

So wouldn't it be interesting to state what the power figure for the Ducati is at the peak power revs of the BMW?

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

I love both of these weapons. The BMW would look even sicker with a shortened exhaust can but I’m a Ducati man. I would go the slightly cheaper V4SP which looks dope in black and with those beautiful Superleggera carbon fibre rims.

[@tomdelia]

Both are incredible. BMW sounds better. Great review

[@darylreed7771]

Beemer all day! But holy shit, that is straight bike porn. Rolling works of art. Beautiful!

[@strikeriron8439]

I'd buy the Ducati, better riding experience ( personal taste) Better resale value - universal fact.

[@ivanfernando22]

For numbers and specs I will chose the Ducati, its a work of art. Basically the best motorcycle.

[@valkyrie4644]

Ducati all day. Its a masterpiece in styling and engineering.

[@valkyrie4644]

But if I was to buy a motorcycle again, I would buy a Gsxr 1000 or maybe the new Fireblade

[@HristovRumen]

My first bike was a 2011 ducati 1198. Extraordinary I thought...til I bought my 2020 s1000rr M. I've never been on the M1000 or v4r, but I already have thoughts about trading in my s1000 for the m. Perhaps next year. Btw, a brand new (not old and used) mt-07 is a bike to be reckoned with. It's not a joke at all. Especially given what you get for sub 6,000usd. It's actually amazing

[@edombre4637]

100% THE DUCATI hands down (and I own a s1000rr)

[@deadlyapollo]

Bmw because I own it and I hate ducati maintenance

[@c.g.c2067]

me too Ducati with no regret

[@jay-rock6627]

I like both of them including the 3rd party Yamaha R1M but if I had to really choose one it would be the Ducati V4 panigale.

[@theonlyredspecial]

Boy. Tough decision. I’ve owned quite a few Ducati’s and regret selling my 916 many years ago. Recently I tend to gravitate to bmw more. Just bought a k1600 gt se. Bmw dealer support over here is immense In Ireland and while Ducati are seen as the best looking bikes on the planet I do like BMW’s styling as well. That said my s1000rr while a great bike looked a bit tacky with all the cheap plastics until I ripped them all off and replaced them with carbon. At quite a cost. I’d probably opt For the m1000rr due to that engine which is immense for torque across the range. (I’m sure it’s very similar to s1000rr with a higher redline). Another good video mate with great editing and well thought out dialogue. I like your neutral approach to these. Always very even handed.

[@samuelmischler1623]

For information: The M-brake at the beemer is from Nissin mainly. This due to the fact that the american brakes used on the S1000RR are not as performant as required. And never a beemer. Quality is so poor (just touch the fairing, and you'll know it) and too much engines already blown up.

[@cnscm2614]

I like both of them. I can't have one without the other. It's really a hard decision for me to choose one. I really can't say.

[@jamesthegoat9255]

Love em both, but imma go for Ducati only bc it was my first love, would love to have the BMW tho‼️

[@The_bunkering_channel]

I am a Ducati fanatic to the bone, so i go with the V4R, but that M1000RR is damn sexy aswell

[@nitinkumar7329]

Bmw 1000rr any day any time. Because bmw will run forever without making any electronic problems and moreover it will start in the morning in just one touch of a starter button.

[@PaulieG1]

Tough call... will be interesting to see how the beemer performs in WSB next year. Heart says team Red, but the BMW is probably the better all round bike.

[@mistermetaphor3011]

scott redding is just not a rider we expect to ride bmw.. he is slow and has no special skill

[@Pushin-P007]

Is the BMW HP4 a track bike or is it street legal if it is..is it bcs they modified it to street legal by adding headlights and other parts or does it comes with street legal

[@yreyesq]

Definitely M1000RR! It looks better, is just a feeling I can't explain, its my dream bike...

[@manskimix]

They are both VERY capable bikes but the looks and sound alone of that DUCATI does it for me!

[@bigred8438]

Can't quite understand why you would show video of the cam shift tecnology on the R1250 boxer engine while describing tgevcam set up on the 1000rr?

[@cengizozbek5285]

Please let us know whether you hear of Ducati bringing back the V4R in 2022/23. Thanks

[@MrAranhaman]

The Duc with the akra system sounds like a motogp bike

[@advan14shala]

Hmmm😐, it's hard to decide, both of them are perfectly designed💞

[@firststep7750]

The high revving In-line 4 cylinder is distinct Asian tone. BMW should've designed a V4 for the Blitzer and aimed for a unique exhaust tone.

[@motobob]

A boxer 4!

[@firststep7750]

@@motobob Boxer engine - although uniquely BMW - would significantly reduce the riders lean angle due to the cylinder heads; not the best for a sports bike. The horizontally opposed cylinders would produce lateral loads which would make leaning the bike at high speed somewhat unnerving.

[@1xplorer]

I would buy them both. For styling - no brand comparable to Ducati For all round riding - BMW is my pick

[@muhamadakhmalfathurridho2783]

You should compare with Superleggera V4

[@luisalonsops]

Son motos que compiten por la marca que representan, sin embargo las dos son muy muy diferentes así como sus conceptos 🇮🇹 DUCATI V4R: Una moto inspirada en los circuitos, diseño exquisito, fina y muy elegante 🇩🇪 BMW M1000RR: Una moto diseñada para combatir con cualquier marca en un circuito, es una moto igual muy fina y me atrevo a decir que muchísimo más resistente y durable a cualquier italiana COMPRAR LA DUCATI O LA BMW VARIA SOLO EN GUSTOS!🤷🏻‍♂️

[@VikashSharma-yn9vt]

My favourite S1000RR You are absolutely amazing ♥️💚💗💙💘💘💘😍😍🤩🤩🤩💪💪💪

[@richardpearson4248]

Great video but will stick with my triumph speed twin and some money in the bank lol stay safe looking forward to next one 🇬🇧👍🏻

[@motobob]

Good choice RP I reckon!

[@pittassavvas7512]

Once I have the 35gs I'll let you know 💷💶💵💸I'm almost there!!

[@ikramzamri]

BMW All the way. The inline 4 smoothness

[@klaasbloem]

Ducati for looks, sound, V engine and power

[@lateralg3169]

Was the chain a bit slack on the Duke on the rolling road?

[@Yogi5D]

The Ducati is a piece of art! At same price of course Ducati takes the cake

[@dinpuiapuia2285]

Tail light of the ducati is sick👍

[@ladin425]

does any other MFG make one side swing arm?

[@everything_awesome]

Looks-Ducati , sound-bmw , power-Ducati , price-bmw , If you want everything go for zx 😎💪

[@johnrajswami5938]

Ducati is a great bike his performance n looks are great....I will go for a ducati bcoz I love Valentino....n Italy😘

[@MrAranhaman]

Great reviews…you could’ve skip the out of the context boxer valve clips