New 2025 Triumph Speed Twin 1200 & RS Announced!

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@williamfischer3990
@williamfischer3990 Ай бұрын
Nothing Triumph will ever do will replace the Thruxton. It is the most beautiful modern retro that will ever exist.
@RenatoPinheiro22
@RenatoPinheiro22 Ай бұрын
I totally agree .... including the absurd replacement of the dual aluminium clocks on the previous gen by this HORRIBLE PLASTIC dial from basics T`s .... jesus .... I loved the bikes but hated the new clocks .. not even on the RS We´ve got better clocks .. I own a T120 and for me the dual clocks are awsome. ....
@UncleWally3
@UncleWally3 Ай бұрын
Aesthetically you’re right; functionally it’s an odd beast. I love riding it, for an hour or two. Even with aftermarket ergonomic adjustments it’s still a sport bike . . . without the high performance.
@williamfischer3990
@williamfischer3990 Ай бұрын
@@RenatoPinheiro22 The dual clocks make the bike. I own a Moto Guzzi V7 ii and it has the dual clocks but for the iii they went to one single clock. It just ruined the look of the dash.
@RenatoPinheiro22
@RenatoPinheiro22 Ай бұрын
@@williamfischer3990 I do agree ... but there is still the classic option, with dual clocks and spoked wheels, right ?? that would be my V7 of a choice !! congrats on the bike ... always wanted to ride one.
@nitroformula05
@nitroformula05 Ай бұрын
100%, I will never sell mine..
@TheTwinPost
@TheTwinPost Ай бұрын
Omission of those analogue clocks in exchange for that split display is a huge bummer 👀
@ricardoestevez2466
@ricardoestevez2466 Ай бұрын
Triumph probably will put them on a special edition or just to make the bike more neo-retro instead of the retro-retro look of the bony
@efword1200
@efword1200 Ай бұрын
Triumph won't be satisfied until every model is wearing either this thing or one of the TFT ipads
@ramapur6851
@ramapur6851 Ай бұрын
Looks terrible!!!!! They need to bring back the twin to the twin!
@thomasbouvier3203
@thomasbouvier3203 Ай бұрын
Such a shame when some brand like kawasaki with the z900rs clocks nailed the perfect balance. Or brixton/indian with at least a full tft display to allow you to customise it to look retro.
@briand1060
@briand1060 Ай бұрын
That thing is an abomination and looks cheap as Fook.. You cannot have a retro bike without dual sweeping dials.
@soggywuffles882
@soggywuffles882 Ай бұрын
The fact that I can get a 765rs, Z900rs SE, MT-10, XSR900 etc for $2-5k less than the 1200rs makes it a really tough sell especially without the iconic dual clocks.
@MadChalet
@MadChalet Ай бұрын
Not hard for me .... the 765 all the way. :-)
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Ай бұрын
The base model..... The z900rs se is 600$ more than the base .....they failed on this update.
@jimbandit1250sa
@jimbandit1250sa Ай бұрын
No retro clocks I ain’t buying 😂 I’ll keep my T120 thank you 😁
@hockeymann88
@hockeymann88 Ай бұрын
Yea, I'm surprised Triumph thought that was a good decision. I feel like they could have upgraded the twin gauge set up and given it the same capability with the retro look.
@陳研鈞
@陳研鈞 Ай бұрын
@@hockeymann88 they just wonna low down the costs
@Irfan87
@Irfan87 Ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful paintjobs. But why why why did they remove analogue clocks? They were fine as is, they fit perfectly with the RETRO design as a whole. Keep the clocks but maintain a screen for the other stuff, there is ZERO reason to turn the speed and odometer fully digital ffs. There's a reason Moto Guzzi owners love everything about their V7s cept for the stupid digital dash. Its always like this with industries, some stupid company does this, every other company follows not realizing it is NOT what the buyers want. More tech isnt always better or more "advanced".
@zaphodbeeblebrox4574
@zaphodbeeblebrox4574 Ай бұрын
Yes. I have a V7 and would prefer analogue (twin) clocks.
@Irfan87
@Irfan87 Ай бұрын
@@zaphodbeeblebrox4574 Gotta get the V7 Special for that.
Ай бұрын
it's not what buyers want, but it is what keeps the prices "constant"... sort of :)... at least their margins.
@stevenelliott5403
@stevenelliott5403 Ай бұрын
Really don't like the new paint, in fact it would stop me buying one, it just looks OTT
@zaphodbeeblebrox4574
@zaphodbeeblebrox4574 Ай бұрын
@@Irfan87 Yeah, I know. But I prefer the overall look of my Centenario 🙂
@rroberts60
@rroberts60 Ай бұрын
Adding an IMU, new shocks, and a few HP doesn't quite offset the plastic fenders, lower spec brakes, and dash straight from the 660 bikes. And certainly not at a higher price. I'm glad they made the RS finally and it looks great, but they made the base model less competitive in its segment. Also no dual clocks is a deal breaker. I've never been happier to have my 2020 model!
@christianmrkhansen9991
@christianmrkhansen9991 Ай бұрын
Disappointed with the updates. The RS is too sporty and the base bike has too many corners cut. The engine update is not necessary. And the dash really is a step in the wrong direction. I am soo happy I got the real one which I ride on a Sunday blast, commuting, multi-day touring and two-up riding.
@aidencoder
@aidencoder Ай бұрын
Yeah I wonder if the compromises will please nobody and the sales will drop. The base model doesn't seem like good value anymore, and the RS ... well, who wants an RS without dual clocks?
@chrismeyler
@chrismeyler Ай бұрын
I'll be keeping my 2020 with twin clocks, aluminum fenders, brembos, nicer headlight, and hand painted pinstripes.
@ed.t.hansen6499
@ed.t.hansen6499 13 күн бұрын
agree; going backwards; Stay NON sporty. Whats the point ?
@aidencoder
@aidencoder Ай бұрын
Well I was going to get one for my next bike ... but dropping the dual analogue-ish clocks was a big mistake. Best off buying a previous gen 1200 and popping some better rear shocks on. Triumph ... what are you doing?
@Paul-er6yf
@Paul-er6yf Ай бұрын
As a current 2023 owner I wouldn't trade to the new version. The single clock dash is a deal breaker for me, ruins the retro theme.
@matthewhaag2138
@matthewhaag2138 Ай бұрын
Same here Paul. I’ve bn patiently waiting for a RS version but I’m slowly transforming my 23 ST1200 into my own RS No Trade n for me👍
@leemacdonald6533
@leemacdonald6533 Ай бұрын
As a 2019 model owner I would have any other speed twin, lost the retro style after the first.
@grahamnelson5376
@grahamnelson5376 Ай бұрын
Such a shame that they ditched the dual gauges with the nice retro chrome accents. That was one of the prettiest parts of the last gen speed twin. Might be more tempting to just buy a last gen bike used and put the cash saved into suspension upgrades
@aidencoder
@aidencoder Ай бұрын
Absolutely the route I'll be taking
@bradlivingston5365
@bradlivingston5365 Ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Speed Twin. I'm definitely keeping that. Not sure what they're thinking making a retro bike look modern.
@leemacdonald6533
@leemacdonald6533 Ай бұрын
​@2023 looks modern, 2019 model is the only one to actually look retro.bradlivingston5365
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 17 күн бұрын
I'm considering doing that
@davidtait7407
@davidtait7407 Ай бұрын
Why can’t they leave things alone!! If it’s not broken don’t fix it, colours look cheap , no twin clocks. What a dogs dinner😮
@gabrieltiso8537
@gabrieltiso8537 Ай бұрын
"what a dogs dinner" 😂 I got to remember that one!
@soundknight
@soundknight Ай бұрын
I agree, and these are over-selling it. I think they get paid for this.
@MotoBikerMike
@MotoBikerMike Ай бұрын
Great video! As a 2022 Speed Twin owner myself.... Pros: Interested in the RS sporty riding position and QS, new Paint schemes look great. Cons: Obviously the new dash is a thumbs down, and they should have kept the Brembos on the base model 👍
@Mujahideen_khinzir
@Mujahideen_khinzir Ай бұрын
Shouldve kept the 2022 wheels as well
@lapinobel
@lapinobel Ай бұрын
So no retro clocks anymore????? Sigh… Was dead set to get the RS 🤬
@iNFiN3
@iNFiN3 Ай бұрын
Same, super bummed with it, they could have went the Z900RS route and sandwich a TFT inebtween 2 analogue gauges, or simply put in 2 round TFTs in a nice aluminum housing, make them look like retro gauges even tho fully digitial and it would have been 10000000000x better than this budget bike screen they put on, trully dissapointing, honestly kills the bike for me, because the cockpit is the one thing you constantly interract with while riding, and now you have to look at something a tiger 660 also has.
@lapinobel
@lapinobel Ай бұрын
@@iNFiN3 exactly, gonna look for a 2024 now although the upgraded suspension and quick shifter would be very nice to have
@Rob6020
@Rob6020 Ай бұрын
I knew the clocks would trigger
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Ай бұрын
It's also kinda ugly, the other lines flowed better
@mbal4052
@mbal4052 Ай бұрын
Ffs just buy one, enjoy riding it and quit whinging
@MH-xd2nd
@MH-xd2nd Ай бұрын
So - take £2K worth of spec off the previous Speed Twin and up the price £500. Keep the same spec and up the price £2.5K, all whilst losing some of the character that attracted buyers in the first place, like traditional twin clocks. A spec’ed up RS will be nudging £16K. Madness! I expect a rush of current model sales.
@duncancleverley6366
@duncancleverley6366 Ай бұрын
I have to say the replacement of the twin analogue clocks with a TFT is a deal breaker.. it’s not for me.
@Adventure_blac
@Adventure_blac Ай бұрын
Triumph at it again differentiating models by making one less than it was before like in the scrambler 1200. Add new dash, cornering traction control, remove brakes, and quality finishes
@grahamnelson5376
@grahamnelson5376 Ай бұрын
It might have been acceptable if they had reduced the price, but the new base model is £500 more than the outgoing model, while losing the gorgeous analog dash, and the Brembo M50s. I see no reason to buy the new base model over finding a new-old-stock 22-24 model
@Adventure_blac
@Adventure_blac Ай бұрын
@@grahamnelson5376 💯% agree. This whole coming out with a new bike that gives you less value for more is making my opinion sour on triumph. They’re starting make me think they are a premium euro brand in price only
@pbofan
@pbofan Ай бұрын
That was my first reaction as well…precisely the reason I picked up a ‘23 Scrambler XC late last year. No interest in the new ‘24 X with its downgraded components.
@trevorphillips3055
@trevorphillips3055 Ай бұрын
​@pbofan I agree, but at least the 1200x is cheaper than the 1200xc was not £500 more!
@plexiscarlatto
@plexiscarlatto Ай бұрын
Speed 2019 -2020 the best.
@MachoMadness69420
@MachoMadness69420 Ай бұрын
The conventional forks and axial brake calipers suited the bike better IMO.
@TheSwishpaul
@TheSwishpaul Ай бұрын
Gen 2 for me, slightly more modern looks which suit me better 👍
@trevorphillips3055
@trevorphillips3055 Ай бұрын
​@@MachoMadness69420And the paint was nicer 😊
@moto.greaser
@moto.greaser Ай бұрын
Not a single chance I’m gonna sell my red 2020.
@colingoldthorpe5918
@colingoldthorpe5918 Ай бұрын
Loosing the twin clocks is a huge mistake 🥹🥹🥹 looks like a lame update typical of triumph….where the sport tourer or cruiser model 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ you have nothing for a 2 up rider in your catalog 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe Ай бұрын
I'm glad I have the previous SpeedTwin with Thurxton Ohlins shocks, a flash tune and a few other bits.
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 7 күн бұрын
How much better performance did you get out of the flash ?
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe 7 күн бұрын
@@rottweilerfun9520 I don't know I got it like that as the second owner. I hear it takes it over 100hp
@jaide1312
@jaide1312 Ай бұрын
That trident dash looks so crappy and out of place here! Completely unacceptable for this price point. All this cost cutting is really catching up to Triumph, you can get the Z900RS SE for less, and that bike doesn't cut corners like triumph does.
@Rayraysplums
@Rayraysplums Ай бұрын
Prefer the looks of the previous model.
@MOTOUK1
@MOTOUK1 Ай бұрын
Me too
@steveparish9210
@steveparish9210 Ай бұрын
I prefer the original speed twin 😊
@trevorphillips3055
@trevorphillips3055 Ай бұрын
I agree, the original paint schemes were the nicest imo. 😊
@leemacdonald6533
@leemacdonald6533 Ай бұрын
Yes, none of the new ones have that retro look.
@junaidhussain7849
@junaidhussain7849 Ай бұрын
I ain’t never selling my 2020 speed twin! Hell nah!
@soulrebelno1
@soulrebelno1 Ай бұрын
I was hoping they wouldn't, but Triumph did anyway-one large clock on a Speed Twin, and not only that, it's off the Trident 660! It completely spoils the looks of a modern classic, surely they must have looked at the Z900RS? And, what have they done to the tank! I was looking forward to the Speed Twin 1200 update, and the RS version, but sadly, both are off my next bike list. I'm sure the engine is still great, but for me, the updated Speed Twin 1200 has lost something in the looks department. It just doesn't look as purposeful, or as muscular, as previous models. The MT-09 SP is my favourite at the moment, it's a lot cheaper, and has a better electronics package.
@FunWithAJ
@FunWithAJ Ай бұрын
Shame the loss of the twin clocks and that odd proportioned headlight seems very poor. Theyve made it more modern than classic. I predict these wont sell to well. Not many want a Modern only bike from triumph. They can just go for a street triple etc.
@thecappy
@thecappy Ай бұрын
I have a ‘19 that I turned into an RS lite. Tuned, de-cat, ohlins rear and Nitron fork cartridges. I was intrigued by the 22-24 model for the usd forks and brakes but, was holding out for the true RS. Might just keep the ‘19 and upgrade to the forks and clamps from 22-24.
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne Ай бұрын
TFT/Digital dash? No thanks Triumph, thats a big thumbs down fail from me. Appreciate its easier and cheaper for you to supply, but we are not here for YOUR convenience.
@MRo55i74
@MRo55i74 Ай бұрын
Not keen on those tank graphics
@-Eternal-Damnation-
@-Eternal-Damnation- Ай бұрын
Huh, I love them
@mikesmouse7779
@mikesmouse7779 Ай бұрын
That's right, cos they are crap!
@stevenelliott5403
@stevenelliott5403 Ай бұрын
Neither am I, it just doesn't fit the bike
@Nathan-hu5zd
@Nathan-hu5zd Ай бұрын
Triumph need to stop plastering capacity and model designation in huge font on the tank. A small Speed Twin 1200 badge on the sidecovers, and a Triumph badge on the tank works best for modern retro. Triumph have also stylised the plastic dummy "carburettors and air filters" one step too far, now achieving the cluttered silver plastic look that let down the first R NineT. BMW just cleaned up the side styling on the new R12 NineT, but Triumph hasn't learned from BMW's 10 year old styling gaffe. And the cheap Trident display is simply horrendous.
@luisribeiro4267
@luisribeiro4267 Ай бұрын
Brother, You know I’m a confessed TRIUMPH fan boy, No doubt there… So I didn’t expect to say this, but I actually feel they got these ones wrong; Think they are diverting from the right parh. If you ask me, they just made used bikes from the previous gen more appealing then ever! Go on, go on, go buy the new ones… please do trade-in your 2023/24 models… Wil keep an eye out, these upcomming months! That’s for sure! Best regards from Portugal 😎✌🏼 >
@yeshwanthgollaprolu
@yeshwanthgollaprolu Ай бұрын
Twin clocks are a huge miss 😢
@johns310
@johns310 Ай бұрын
While not bad, I’m a fan of the graphics, quick shifter is nice, digital clock not so nice, I definitely don’t regret getting a new to me Thruxton RS a couple months ago. This reinforces that I made the right choice
@joshtacker9531
@joshtacker9531 Ай бұрын
This is not a step forward. I'm a huge triumph fan and I put my money where my mouth is, there are 2 in my garage. Losing the analog dials and the new tank looks awful. 😢
@fauveride
@fauveride Ай бұрын
Now I guess the choice between t120 vs speed twin 1200 becomes a bit clearer.
@Rayraysplums
@Rayraysplums Ай бұрын
T120 all the way now
@Carlos_500
@Carlos_500 Ай бұрын
For me as a ST 2021 owner the biggest mistake with this new model are the clocks, that Trident clock is good for the Trident but not for a premium bike like the ST 1200. 5bhp not enough for me to upgrade and I already have the Ohlins rear shocks which I added.
@hb-yv2iu
@hb-yv2iu Ай бұрын
Losing the twin clocks is a deal breaker. They have downgraded the standard bike - brakes, tyres, clocks !
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 7 күн бұрын
It's ridiculous, they made the base bike worse....whoever came up with that idea should be fired.
@zaphodbeeblebrox4574
@zaphodbeeblebrox4574 Ай бұрын
P.S. These are a great promo/advert for the BMW R nineT !.
@tomwebb0811
@tomwebb0811 Ай бұрын
Personally think the first edition (modern) speed twins look the best. Like others have said i think the digital clock wasn't a great move, those analogue clocks looked the business. The RS is going in to bat against the XSR900, which is tough competition
@Neil_Llewellyn
@Neil_Llewellyn Ай бұрын
I have a 2020 speed twin and agree with you. The speed twins that came after this model are watered down even though there is a little more HP. I dislike the styling of the exhaust, looks budget with the black end cap. I'll be keeping what I have for a while.
@aidencoder
@aidencoder Ай бұрын
Who wants their ST1200 to compete against the XSR900? The 1200 is an attractive proposition in all the ways it WASNT the XSR.
@mikesmouse7779
@mikesmouse7779 Ай бұрын
Absolutely. The Gen1's look great, everything after including this looks worse and for no real world gain. The only argument is that the RS has fully adjustable suspension front and back, but it still looks crap.
@sigberetta72
@sigberetta72 Ай бұрын
Man! I don’t see a single positive post about the loss of analog clocks. Do they do any focus groups? Apparently not! Triumph is going the way of KTM, it seems ,and just trying to piss customers off. To each his own…. But I think they should have left the dual gauges, leave the tank alone, leave the paint jobs alone, left the M50 brakes on the standard version, left the increase in HP and spent the money elsewhere. I do like the lean sensitivity ABS and traction control and Stylema brakes. Don’t know about the pegs and handlebars changing to more aggressive position? Might be uncomfortable. I did think the tires will be great. But, in the end, a 2024 and older would be better for me !
@alfredkhoo1353
@alfredkhoo1353 Ай бұрын
Triumph really missed the mark here, people get a triumph for that retro styling with a modern performance, but the new digital dash and some sci-fi looking parts around the bike, not to mention the unnecessary increased in price ,shows just how detached Triumph is with their fans.
@nathansatran2507
@nathansatran2507 Ай бұрын
I was bummed when I heard that they were coming out with updated Speed twins this year because I purchased a new one in February. After watching this and seeing what they did, I'm feeling pretty good about what I have. I love the two gauges on the previous models. I definitely will not be trading in for one of these.
@ukvamp
@ukvamp Ай бұрын
No twin clocks, boo
@yoreleel
@yoreleel Ай бұрын
Base model cost more than the current top spec ST1200. I would rather buy the older model especially since it is missing analogue meter.
@user-om2fg7yh6s
@user-om2fg7yh6s Ай бұрын
Getting rid of the twin clocks is an absolutely disgraceful decision.
@StingerPat
@StingerPat Ай бұрын
Grow up....single display is amazing
@Mac_okee
@Mac_okee Ай бұрын
it is unforgivable that they swapped the round instruments for this digital crap 😡😡😡
@colindeans5972
@colindeans5972 Ай бұрын
The white colour scheme looks good. The loss of twin clocks is a mistake, in my opinion. The wheels are a lame upgrade, and the tank indentations look awful. Hmm, I'm not convinced by this one. Thanks for the update Bob 👍
@darrenhall6509
@darrenhall6509 Ай бұрын
I have a 23 Speed in orange and I was (well my wallet was ) getting worried that the new one would temp me away from what was going to be a keeper. No worries anymore. To me, they have ruined it. The styling is weird and makes it look bent in the middle, the lines don`t flow with the motor. The new clocks are horrid, I could go on but I think I have the best one already. Sorry Triumph, its a nil pour from me. My wallet can relax now...
@TheSwishpaul
@TheSwishpaul Ай бұрын
I had a Thruxton r and sold it due to the lack of comfort. I bought the 24 Stealth Speed Twin which is perfect (apart from the suspension), that should have been the main upgrade with perhaps an optional quickshifter!
@bajo
@bajo Ай бұрын
What a shame you can’t get a quick shifter on the base model. I just prefer that more relaxed riding position.
@tedcity5861
@tedcity5861 Ай бұрын
you could go aftermarket like before.
@dalemeadows225
@dalemeadows225 Ай бұрын
If the aftermarket can do it why can’t triumph?
@tedcity5861
@tedcity5861 Ай бұрын
@@dalemeadows225 obviously triumph could, but they want you to buy the RS
@NAParr
@NAParr Ай бұрын
I have the previous model with Ohlins rear suspension. That single clock looks so cheap on the new version.
@GeorgeTzedakis
@GeorgeTzedakis Ай бұрын
The Speed Twin 1200 has been on my target radar for quite some time. Now I have to remove it as a potential purchase. - The Dash is unacceptable for a top retro bike. - The Headlamp is not fitting with the rest of the bike. Too small , too modern ,too flat. It' s like a copy of the xsr headlamp - The tank is too modern - The downgrade in breaks and other details should compensate for the better rear suspension so that the price should stays the same instead of rising. - Engine upgrades are unnecessary. It should be the main difference between the basic and the RS model - "...Modern Geometry..." on a Retro Motorcycle ?? Are they serious. And what was wrong with the geometry on the previous models to begin with? - And how about these side panels? If you look only at these panels, you'd think they come from a streetfighter bike rather than a retro one. Completely disappointed, turning now to Kawa who knows how a proper retro should be
@VanBlamm
@VanBlamm Ай бұрын
Once again a mix of welcome and unwelcome updates. The paint jobs, suspension, expanded ergonomic options from the factory, and cornering ABS are big wins. The brakes, price, and especially the dash, are misses. I hate that Triumph are foisting this split TFT unit on us with every model update. The added power, updated design, cruise control, and RS-only quickshifter are fine but unnecessary. Great video as always, Rob! Can't wait for more Full Tank.
@LunadaBayRider
@LunadaBayRider Ай бұрын
I can't believe they got rid of the dual clocks! Deal breaker for me. They pulled the clock from the Trident, a much cheaper bike. I have gone back and forth between this and the T120. This made the decision for me.
@hokiecolt8107
@hokiecolt8107 Ай бұрын
I will get in line to get a 1200 RS when it gets to the States. It NOW has everything I want, classic looks, cruise control, rider modes, comfortable yet sporty riding position (why I never bought a Thruxton), quickshifter and updated dash. The bike is gorgeous!!
@BJ900RS
@BJ900RS Ай бұрын
Poor decision with the budget dash on the RS version 👎
@steve_gooner0014
@steve_gooner0014 Ай бұрын
Looks like I will be keeping my 2023 Speed Twin and adding some after market rear suspension, basically they have raised the price considerably and taken the premium items from the base model so a double hit.
@justwoody6511
@justwoody6511 Ай бұрын
Going for the old model or an Z900RS. Was hoping for a good looking Speed Twin 1200 RS..
@paulsmith9106
@paulsmith9106 Ай бұрын
I have the speed twin 1200 2024 in stealth red, sublime, but then it’s what suits me and my bucket list bike. TBH not sure about these updates, what’s with the single clock!? Which joker came up with that?
@fiucik1
@fiucik1 Ай бұрын
Next thing you know and we'll gonna have the Bonneville with TFT display...
@brazilianrider8882
@brazilianrider8882 Ай бұрын
What a let down..I guess the older 1200s will go up in price now.
@dalemeadows225
@dalemeadows225 Ай бұрын
It won’t be a mixed reaction with these clocks. I expect everyone will hate the change
@daxmotis27
@daxmotis27 Ай бұрын
That big 1200 graphic looks tacky. Dual clock omission I think has been properly roasted already. Cruise control is nice. That little area under the seat where the carbs are looks too modern and angular to fit the aesthetic. I like the RS just fine but I’ll stick with my thruxton R.
@TosspotQ
@TosspotQ Ай бұрын
Pity about the decals I actually like the Orange but hate both sets of decals.
@maverick1539
@maverick1539 Ай бұрын
I think the previous gen was the best looking. The balance between modern and classic design elements was spot on. I think dual clocks should have been retained, perhaps only updated with small color tft readouts inside. Previous tank shape and headlights suited the bike's heritage inspired looks more.
@SBKPete
@SBKPete Ай бұрын
So they’ve downgraded the bike and it’s more expensive 🤦🏻 Also, that single clock 🤷🏻‍♂️
@fyorbane
@fyorbane Ай бұрын
Oh dear, what have Triumph done! they use cheaper parts on the base model ,yet charge more. The RS gets a cheap dash from the 660. and they want that much for it. They are having a laugh. The 1200 graphic on the tank is so cheap and tacky. The RS in orange is ok but the white and black band at the bottom of the tank cheapens the look. For 14.5 k I would expect nothing less than Ohlins front forks.I was genuinely considering buying the new 1200 RS but not anymore. They can forget it. Looking at all the other comments here Triumph have dropped a huge clanger and have already lost sales on the new RS. What were they thinking.
@alienbiker5036
@alienbiker5036 Ай бұрын
love the speed twin but that clock oh no have it has a option by all means but keep that classic twin clocks look
@stevenelliott5403
@stevenelliott5403 Ай бұрын
I'd rather have the last gen and just buy some better rear shocks, looks less retro than I like, I'd never buy the RS as it's going to be uncomfortable, if I wanted power and a modern bike I'd buy a Yamaha MT10 for much the same price with a shed load more power and tech
@davidkroh5576
@davidkroh5576 Ай бұрын
Exactly know your market.
@scottmitchell6371
@scottmitchell6371 Ай бұрын
Personally, I thought the previous edition had it right. Now they have made it cheaper and are charging more, no thanks. 😢
@JamesWilson-ve9zi
@JamesWilson-ve9zi Ай бұрын
I own a 2022 speed twin and new it cost £11,200. Now they want £12495 for a down graded model? It just a price hype adding a RS which is over £3000 more? I really don't think the Trident dash is going to go down well? You think that they would give you a clock option on both bikes? BMW do.
@tommymarsiglia
@tommymarsiglia Ай бұрын
the biggest mistake Triumph have made is to put out too many models sharing the same engine, they could've done already a Speed Twin "cafè" with spoke wheels, clip on handlebars and a different tank.. just as it was for the street cup or the street scrambler 900
@StreetTwinRider
@StreetTwinRider Ай бұрын
Not sure where this is going, I wouldn’t fork out for either of these. I’d either buy an old used one at half the price or buy something else.
@karanveersinghdulku
@karanveersinghdulku Ай бұрын
If I had to buy tech I'd buy a svartpilen. The new age looking speedo itself kills the vibe
@ricatiman
@ricatiman Ай бұрын
The new 17" Wire Spoke Tube wheels on the new BMW R12 9T look awesome - and they can easily be converted to tubeless. Triumph needs a set of tubeless wire spokes to be made available for these Speed Twins... Alloys just don't cut it for Retro bikes.. way too modern looking. Wake up Triumph, and offer what will be really attractive to your customers, or risk losing them to BMW. I am now having to decide between the two for next year, and the BMW looks so much better, especially with wire spoke wheels! And they have more power, clean shaft drive...fantastic electronics... I am convinced - BMW next bike. I especially prefer the BMW options for the clocks.
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 Ай бұрын
I'd really like the RS in red with the twin clocks. I guess that I'll get used to the orange. It looks great, I just prefer the red.
@logangodofcandy
@logangodofcandy Ай бұрын
Already have sick suspension on my XC. Glad I jumped for the stealth bobber instead of waiting to be depressed by this 😢
@Regdor
@Regdor Ай бұрын
1 step forward 2 steps back. Getting rid of analogue gauges is a deal breaker.
@dan-sc7fm
@dan-sc7fm Ай бұрын
I am so glad I bought my speed twin back in 2019. What were they thinking getting rid of the dual analog dash clocks.
@shremich4583
@shremich4583 Ай бұрын
Sorry Triumph, this 2025 Speed 1200 are not my retro style. I hope you will keep the T120 as it is. i couldn’t easily decide between T120 2022 and Speed Twin 1200 2022 but i own now the T120.
@joaosoares3719
@joaosoares3719 Ай бұрын
Cruise control FINALLY!
@soggywuffles882
@soggywuffles882 Ай бұрын
Doesn’t look to come standard.
@joaosoares3719
@joaosoares3719 Ай бұрын
@@soggywuffles882 Not, but it's an option, FINALLY.
@sandeshjadhav8804
@sandeshjadhav8804 Ай бұрын
What a huge mistake getting rid of the twin clocks. It just looks almost like a trident from the front. Considering that and the other "upgrades" this looks like a bad deal
@idrisahmed2659
@idrisahmed2659 Ай бұрын
Two bummers ....1. the headlight styling being exactly like the speed 400 ..looks like one from the front ....2. the analog dials.... Replaced something beautiful with something hideous ....
@marklloyd69
@marklloyd69 Ай бұрын
Great review but even with your usual vigour and detail it’s not enough for me to upgrade my ST1200. Single clock is horrible, not a fan of the colours, ✅ for suspension but ❌for the cans. Not enough in it for the huge price increase for me
@markmottershead646
@markmottershead646 Ай бұрын
What’s with those graphics?? Who wants something like that on a premium machine?!
@Jcarrothers
@Jcarrothers Ай бұрын
This video is on point as expected. Keep up the good work! My Street Triple is an incredible machine but I’ve always found it a bit too serious. The Speed Twin had seemed like an interesting proposition because I’ve always preferred its look over the Thruxton (controversial, I know). I want something truly top shelf and great looking and loads of character but not 200hp and a $20k price. With the introduction of the RS it has moved to the top of the list. I think Triumph hit a home run here.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 Ай бұрын
Great vid & a very interesting bike. I'd definitely consider one for a next bike. The RS is a little pricey but it's still very nice. The new clock is nice in itself but I 100% prefer the previous double clock arrangement. Would also want a top fairing option like on the Thruxton.
@gothickah0
@gothickah0 Ай бұрын
They modernize the classic but downgraded it. Gosh, i'm glad i own the 2023 speedtwin 1200.
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 Ай бұрын
They took out sport mode also. Except for the5 extra HP they pretty much made this bike worse than it was before.
@f19ash
@f19ash Ай бұрын
Oh dear. Swing and a miss… What were Triumph thinking? The old clocks were gorgeous and the new dash is hideous. Overall the bike looks cheaper and less cohesive.
@cliveomahoney4096
@cliveomahoney4096 Ай бұрын
£14,500 for a bike with a Fischer Price dash? Are they totally insane? Triumph has never had a clue about their clocks. This is, however, the most extreme, penny pinching example I've thus far seen. Viva Japanese!!!! IMO
@raulsalanaranjo6565
@raulsalanaranjo6565 Ай бұрын
I think I would save me some money and go for the 900. I just don’t see the point in the standard 1200… and the RS looks rather expensive for what you get
@NicePantsLance
@NicePantsLance Ай бұрын
The power and torque difference alone is worth the upgrade
@raulsalanaranjo6565
@raulsalanaranjo6565 Ай бұрын
@@NicePantsLance the 900 has all the power I need to lose my license in one weekend. Yeah, more power more fun, but I am not interested in retro bikes for the power.
@lordgibbness
@lordgibbness Ай бұрын
Definitely taking the two specs in opposite directions now. Std model for the chilled out rider enjoying the views, rs model for the sporty rider enjoying the roads.
@Giuseppe_De_Bellis
@Giuseppe_De_Bellis Ай бұрын
11:49 still a prototype, with 3D printed body of the instrument :) ( c'mon.. smooth it down with some sandpaper..) :D
@richardwild-jones8147
@richardwild-jones8147 Ай бұрын
Very helpful. But what’s surprising is that your triumph dealer hasn’t been able to resolve it given the fault code. Essentially keep swapping parts out parts till they get a result; notwithstanding past experiences. Stay safe. 👍
@cg1288
@cg1288 Ай бұрын
Why do "marketing teams" not pay attention to customers? Please do this survey so we can ignore anything you input. The only thing the old bike needed was cruise-control. Does the new model have it? I thought I saw a shot of the cruise icon on the new dash. However, you would think if Triumph FINALLY added cruise, he would have said something.
@matt2wheels
@matt2wheels Ай бұрын
Not digging this update. The base version is too basic. No quickshifter is a dealbreaker. The RS is too sporty and probably will also be too expensive. Of course it's good for business to push people to the more expensive, higher margin bike, but as a customer, I'm not liking this.
@EminBastea
@EminBastea Ай бұрын
THRUXTON 1200 👑
@LCBBuilders
@LCBBuilders Ай бұрын
Bring the clocks back. Total own goal.
@Saucey65
@Saucey65 Ай бұрын
oh wow that's crazy about the new IMU system!!! So I ended up buying the new XSR900 because it had all the tech and the heritage styling, it had smoother power delivery than the Triumphs I rode and the Z900RS I rode. So it feels like Triumph sees they have to pick it up and have brought this to the table. Well I don't like the triumph markup on price but I can appreciate the spec list. I think styling could be slightly better still but now I want to ride one and compare.
@George-p5l
@George-p5l Ай бұрын
Just like new scrambler 1200 they are downgrading items going backwards
@jaredmotopnw
@jaredmotopnw Ай бұрын
They finally gave it an Ohlins? Had a 2020 and thought that’s all it needed. Well done!
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