New 40K Datasheets REVEALED for Tempestus Aquilons + Vespid Stingwings - How Strong are They?

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Auspex Tactics

Auspex Tactics

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@BurnByMoonlight
@BurnByMoonlight Ай бұрын
Fun fact about the sentry for the Aquilons: because it’s considered equipped by the unit champion, it can be chosen for weapon enhancements in crusade.
@emperormajorian112
@emperormajorian112 Ай бұрын
Oh that’s stupidly awesome
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
Until they put an exception for it in the Guard codex
@HenryEaton
@HenryEaton Ай бұрын
@@CMTechnica crusade is always overlooked. They wont fix it
@mattmahne5242
@mattmahne5242 Ай бұрын
Why is it every time I refresh KZbin there is a new Auspex video? Lol
@Microwave_King
@Microwave_King Ай бұрын
Because in the grim darkness of New Zealand, there is no sleep.
@Kakashi-ip8mg
@Kakashi-ip8mg Ай бұрын
Plastic Crack is a hella of a drug… to keep up with.
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord Ай бұрын
Because the man doesn't sleep, he's just a machine that makes videos, and he will never stop, like a Terminator!
@welderbear6757
@welderbear6757 Ай бұрын
Gotta keep the GW propaganda going
@ClearestDrop097
@ClearestDrop097 Ай бұрын
Only in death does duty end
@nicoleandscottnelson3933
@nicoleandscottnelson3933 Ай бұрын
Oversight drone should have granted "for the greater good"
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
Yeah fully agree. Without any access to Tau BS boosting capabilities (and the buffs/strats/etc. that come with them) I'm 95% sure we'll never see them used for their special weapons or damage in competitive. Just 5 mans for scoring.
@scelonferdi
@scelonferdi Ай бұрын
Makes sense. Better integrates them into the army structure, but takes extra effort. So that's why it'd be only once per game.
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 Ай бұрын
Guess that was an oversight.
@stephenfeeney2966
@stephenfeeney2966 Ай бұрын
Deffo
@Talon323
@Talon323 Ай бұрын
I imagine a lot of old guard players will dig up their elysian drop troops to use as proxies for these
@shinkiro403
@shinkiro403 Ай бұрын
Even better with the nice buff to the armor save compared to drop troops' actual one. Heavier plating hurts more when deep striking it on someone's head
@dziku2222
@dziku2222 Ай бұрын
Obviously, after GW destroyed all forgeworld units for the guard, people need to do something with at least some of them.
@AWPtical800
@AWPtical800 Ай бұрын
With regards to Vespid: their big use in competitive lists before the update was Rapid Ingress screening. Plop them down, then pick them back up after your opponent can't do that anymore, rinse and repeat every turn until turn 4.
@CuriousLumenwood
@CuriousLumenwood Ай бұрын
Both of these units are going to be insane. Good luck to anyone that was hoping to get the actual minis
@Kingofsea7591
@Kingofsea7591 Ай бұрын
3d printed baby
@alarak2159
@alarak2159 Ай бұрын
I think any Ignores Cover ability is massive in this game, absolutely underrated. It forces CP use or pushes wounds, exactly what you want.
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
It is, but Vespids still won't do any significant damage. BS 4+ wrecks it. Pretty sure we'll only ever see them as 5 mans in competitive for their scoring capabilities.
@Giby86
@Giby86 Ай бұрын
And tau pretty much ignore cover all the time anyway.
@Admiralkirk95
@Admiralkirk95 Ай бұрын
I really thought the drone for the vespid was going to be how the vespid gained 'for the greater good'. Cause in the killteam stuff it seems that's its purpose, to improve the coordination of the squad. Still a good buff for the vespid with the ability being changed. Definetly makes them synergize better with Pariah nexus' action heavy rules. And the ten man extra weapons might be fun if you want to try it out. My brother is gonna be happy with it.
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
Yeah man. I hoped for that too. As is, they'll probably only see play as 5 mans for scoring, but could be fun to take out the big 10 man once in a while (although it's pretty much inarguably worse).
@Admiralkirk95
@Admiralkirk95 Ай бұрын
@@theStamax The only real benefit is the ten man gets all three special weapons, that's about it. So if you desperatly want more fire power that can drop down anywhere I guess that's all it's for. but yes, their main focus will be objectives and utility. So the five man will be the most efficient for pro play.
@CaptJPurdie
@CaptJPurdie Ай бұрын
Naa-- For it to be a *proper* drop regiment *everyone* should drop... Castellans, command squads, priests, commissars, ogryns, dentists, ogryn dentists... Would you like to know more???
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord Ай бұрын
Nice Starship Troopers reference
@alarak2159
@alarak2159 Ай бұрын
Total Vespid supporter here but can't resist.. "The only good bug is a dead bug!"
@AWPtical800
@AWPtical800 Ай бұрын
HOW ABOUT A NICE CUP OF LIBER-TEA??
@commissarchad
@commissarchad Ай бұрын
Ogryn dentists need to happen now. GW, get on it you fobbits!
@birb330
@birb330 Ай бұрын
I would like to learn more.
@voidedzulu8517
@voidedzulu8517 Ай бұрын
I think the Aquilons opens up the oportunity for normal scions to be put into Taurox primes or just doing other things than being your deep strike unit. Makes scion armys even bigger technically, either having 3 scions and 1 to 3 of these with a normal army, or taking 6 scions plus these for a scion based army. And really make a Special forces/storm troopers army
@dmmenation1740
@dmmenation1740 Ай бұрын
I am excited to paint the vespids!
@nicoleandscottnelson3933
@nicoleandscottnelson3933 Ай бұрын
@@dmmenation1740 finally got mine done! Most fun paint job i think ive ever done
@ProxyHammer1
@ProxyHammer1 Ай бұрын
As an Aeldari player I'm jealous of both units for different reasons...
@KamilDrakari
@KamilDrakari Ай бұрын
The 5 model vespid squad looks very nice with the improved reserves rule, but bumping up to 10 puts them in competition with Crisis Suits and I don't think they stack up well especially if you account for the available synergies. If the Hunting Pack detachment were updated to have some stuff work on Vespid as well, I think the larger squad could have a place there. I don't expect that to happen though.
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
Yeah pretty sure we'll only ever see them in 5mans in competitive. You gain almost nothing of value for double the cost (arguably worse cause harder to put 10 down to score) and the added weapons either do almost nothing or are too unreliable to be counted on. Now if only the unit would get For the Greater Good and strat support instead of just ignores cover :/
@Fortunes.Fool.
@Fortunes.Fool. Ай бұрын
I’m halfway done kitbashing my Krieg Rocketeers and I just remembered I need to do a sentry gun.
@MrBones-nr4pj
@MrBones-nr4pj Ай бұрын
I appreciate these videos more than ever right now because the new warcom website doesn’t work on my iphone :/
@SarajevoKyoto
@SarajevoKyoto Ай бұрын
It doesn't work on my Android either, the whole thing is apparently sideways at the moment
@smeekma
@smeekma Ай бұрын
I've been wanting to make a pure Scions army for a while now. The Aquilons are really tempting me, but I think I'll wait for the codex first to even see if they'll allow pure scions still.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
Doubt it’ll be “pure scions”. It’ll probably be under the transport shenanigans detachment, combined with the steel legion, if there’s even a transport shenanigans detachment
@Rhod-wg7yt
@Rhod-wg7yt Ай бұрын
You know, these Tempestus are how I want Chaos henchmen to look. Prepared for the Void & the Warp, not stupidly spikey & half naked.
@supersoldier8629
@supersoldier8629 Ай бұрын
Something i find interesting is that the Tempestor can get 2 las pistols as well, as the model has the option to replace its sword with one in addition to the default choice of bolt pistol or las pistol
@FrogEnjoyer17
@FrogEnjoyer17 Ай бұрын
I think it’s interesting that both these units have their special wargear ability thingy attached to the squad leader
@matjov
@matjov Ай бұрын
Hilarious that a las carbine has better armour penetration than a Boltgun.
@mistformsquirrel
@mistformsquirrel Ай бұрын
Hotshots have always had better pen than bolters but worse strength. That's just sorta their thing.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
It’s a hellgun. They’ve always been pocket sized lascannons
@eric619
@eric619 Ай бұрын
I will be adding the aquillons to my guard, having already picked up the box. The vespid are currently the only tau I own. but I may try them out with the kill team rules.
@SpartaMacIntyre
@SpartaMacIntyre Ай бұрын
The Aquilon rules are pretty much what I was expecting. I feel they could have included more specialists like the Grenadier, but maybe they thought the ability to Deep Strike so close to the enemy and then chuck a massive bomb at them (assuming it would be like the Kasrkin's melta charge) would be too powerful. Though maybe they could have made the Grenadier powerful, but you have to choose between them and the melta/plasma? I kinda hoped the Gunfighter would get 4 shots or at least Twin Linked but, as you say, if they're usually going to be doing Danger Close Deep Strikes, 2 pistols are as good as the carbine. Still praying for all hot-shot weapons to go back to their proper place with -2AP at some point though :(
@FaradisAnto
@FaradisAnto Ай бұрын
I never understood why why most weapons are better at armor penetrating than the Boltgun with explosive rounds.
@Calvin_Coolage
@Calvin_Coolage Ай бұрын
​@@FaradisAntoBoltguns unless equipped with special ammunition aren't built for armor penetration in the first place. Like yeah obviously they'll chew through something like Flak Armor or a wall, but they don't perform very well against Astartes armor in universe. They're basically meant to be a weapon that bullies normal humans and lightly armored aliens.
@SpartaMacIntyre
@SpartaMacIntyre Ай бұрын
@@FaradisAnto I don't think any weapons are as powerful on the tabletop as in the fluff: the hot-shot lasgun is described as powerful enough to melt through ceramite, and requires so much power that the user needs a backpack to carry its battery...yet in this edition it's 100% inferior to the bolter and shuriken catapult. There used to be a nice balance where those two had higher Strength but the hot-shot weapons had better AP *shrug* Stormies/Kasrkin/Scions etc are all very good because they're cheap and have Lethal Hits and lots of special weapons, but I would rather their firepower came from their cool, unique hot-shot weapons even if it meant reducing the number of plasma guns etc they can carry.
@phoenixgods1
@phoenixgods1 Ай бұрын
im a fan of 'deep strike immediate grenade'
@emilianomorales9810
@emilianomorales9810 Ай бұрын
And yet the special units from hierotek circle still lack rules
@Tempek8668
@Tempek8668 Ай бұрын
I can easily see Aquilons making their way to basically any Astra Militarum list at least as a one of. They deal OK damage to screening units ans objective monkeys and they have some triks up their sleeves, for example ingressing for charge blocking.
@christopherfreitas6510
@christopherfreitas6510 Ай бұрын
I just want that sentry gun honestly
@prestonjohnson1537
@prestonjohnson1537 Ай бұрын
Like the vespids. Looks like fun to use, and the special weapons seem neat.
@ph0n1k
@ph0n1k Ай бұрын
You sir, are an absolute machine.
@Reaver70
@Reaver70 Ай бұрын
10,5,5 vespid would be an iinteresting proposition for backfield disruption of enemy objectives/secondaries. 20ish hits at str5-2,2 is enough to clear units.
@nikot.9920
@nikot.9920 Ай бұрын
For 90 points I do like the utility of the Aquilons at 10 models. Should be fun running these in 40k
@cavemansam8400
@cavemansam8400 Ай бұрын
The big question is what will make Scions unique from Kaserkin now that they’ve given the deep strike grab chute role to the Aquilons. I can only hope it has something to do with Valkyries!
@ohgodno2733
@ohgodno2733 Ай бұрын
There not like scions just because they deep strike, Aquilaons are 40 more and more like a close range quick blast with there 3 inches deep strike, I see scions more useful as a deep strike behind enemy lines and take there home objective while aquilons as a suicide unit to quickly get in and close then blast the enemy’s elites with melta and plasma shot
@cavemansam8400
@cavemansam8400 Ай бұрын
@@ohgodno2733Point for point Scions do much more damage due to their baked in rerolls and higher number of plasma and melta fire. Especially to elites.
@AlpineWeiss3D
@AlpineWeiss3D Ай бұрын
@@ohgodno2733 new kasrkin bomb pretty much
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
@@ohgodno2733 I think it's the exact opposite. Aquilons are better at taking out objectives because of their 3 inch deepstrike. Scions on the other hand have much higher damage potential for blasting elites (mostly due to rerolls, better anti-elite weapons and the ability to take a command squad to supercharge the unit).
@zacharypurdue4584
@zacharypurdue4584 Ай бұрын
Do Kaserkin have infiltrate or scout?
@slackeratlarge575
@slackeratlarge575 Ай бұрын
I’m hoping GW over produced the hivestorm like the do with most launch boxes. Hoping to get it cheap in 2 or 3 months
@tr1ckyf1sh
@tr1ckyf1sh Ай бұрын
Don't play either of these armies, or KT, but they look like cool models with fun rules. They had the demo up at my local and I thought the Vespids looked especially nice.
@WeOnlyEatSoup
@WeOnlyEatSoup Ай бұрын
Will be picking up those Guard
@Silverdragon83X
@Silverdragon83X Ай бұрын
The Aquilons are very cool and strong with their precision shock rule, especially with rapid ingress! But I wished they hadd more movement with their jump packs, especially to make them more different to the normal tempestus scions.
@Hello-bp8dx
@Hello-bp8dx Ай бұрын
On the bright side, a lot of their weapons have assault so they can technically dash and shoot
@kingcrab7837
@kingcrab7837 Ай бұрын
Grav chutes aren't jump packs there essentially parachutes but with thrusters instead
@reesetompkins7987
@reesetompkins7987 Ай бұрын
they don't have jump packs
@firesidestories5714
@firesidestories5714 Ай бұрын
I am definitely going for aquilons in my pure scion lists though kinda disappointing that they arent like jump troops or able to move faster it would have added more variety to scions
@liv9520
@liv9520 Ай бұрын
Im looking forward to getting the Aquilons solo.
@rodneygaul2227
@rodneygaul2227 Ай бұрын
I can see me making 90pts opening up in my list . With a 3" deep strike an enemy home objective is not safe anymore . With the Scions 9" deep strike , for the points , that might be an interesting "tag team" . "Hivestorm" is starting to grow on me . except for the "bugs" . It just goes to show Tau will "hit on" anything
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer Ай бұрын
New Vespids not being able to actually benefit from FTGG is giving some of that cities of Sigmar type Segregation. Nice job once again on that, GW.
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 Ай бұрын
Auxiliaries dying for the Tau and not getting the benefits fits the fluff great though.
@maciekwilkosz6377
@maciekwilkosz6377 Ай бұрын
Hot-shot Long-Las is the silliest name I've heard in a long while 😁
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 Ай бұрын
Aquilon's seem pretty good. Sure, their damage output isn't *that* favourable compared to Scions, but a 10 man that could drop pretty much anywhere who are functionally similar in firepower on the turn they drop and are reasonably hard to shift (in that they are yet another threat that requires a urgent and sharp response, and are competitively costed for their threat level)
@Tendrassil
@Tendrassil Ай бұрын
why not vespids can't be guided?, the "greater good" is for any Tau Empire keyword, soo in that way they are elegible to be guided
@luckylarry71
@luckylarry71 Ай бұрын
TBH, the *Melta Carbine* is a pretty sick shooting attack as far as weapon profiles goes in 40K
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
whut? It's a Melta with 2 less range and assault (which won't matter much if you drop in 3 inches, shoot something and then die).
@FluffyyofChaos
@FluffyyofChaos Ай бұрын
Wow im actually super jaded, the HS Lascarbine profile is exactly what i said the Kasrkin "Hellgun" profile should have been... instead we got boring lasrifles
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
They are both quite good to excellent. Aquilons have less raw punch than Scions but can 3 inch deepstrike and still put the hurt on infantry pretty reliably (at least anything below Terminator durability). As such they are a solid unit to strike objectives and clear off holding units your enemy is trying to screen. However, they aren't great for scoring (unless it's big boi points) as they're a bit too expensive for that imo (especially compared to regular scions at 50p for 5). They also have some solid combo potential with units that can order them. Vespids are very good for Tau since they are a unit filling an empty spot in the roster. However, I doubt we'll ever see them in 10 mans in competitive. You basically gain nothing of worth for paying double the points as they still won't do any substantial damage and the weapons are either borderline useless (flamer) to gimmicky (neutron rail rifle) at best. In fact they are pretty much worse in their role (scoring) because it's harder to fit 10 models than 5.
@FionaAnstian
@FionaAnstian Ай бұрын
I'd be shocked if we didn't get the balance update with BA points next week.
@kovassaratan763
@kovassaratan763 Ай бұрын
I'm weathering the wait for my first ever points update playing table top and it's killing me. My crusade games this month hinge on what those point changes include.
@YlvaTheValkyrie
@YlvaTheValkyrie Ай бұрын
Very disappointed that we haven't gotten a jump pack Imperial Guard unit. I thought surely this would be it :/
@chetmanley1885
@chetmanley1885 Ай бұрын
Aquillons look like a great utility unit for sure. I dont like the models, dont want to run them in KT and dont have a guard army, but good to know I can shift the models.
@mistamomo
@mistamomo Ай бұрын
Why are Scions still only WS4?
@dziku2222
@dziku2222 Ай бұрын
Vespids did not need refreshed design, they needed new models
@Trazynn
@Trazynn Ай бұрын
I was waiting for this.
@СашаКумылганов
@СашаКумылганов Ай бұрын
We've Been Tricked, We've Been Backstabbed and We've Been Quite Possibly, Bamboozled, because seriously guards needs fast moving infantry unit for variety if nothing else. Blue-balls abound!
@nozwelx_6518
@nozwelx_6518 Ай бұрын
Sarge! I told you back at the red base meeting that they were grav-chute's, you know red command doesn't trust us with jetpacks after griff tried using one to roast marshmallows!
@FaradisAnto
@FaradisAnto Ай бұрын
Move! Move! Move! Makes you faster than anything without fly already what do you mean?
@Majere613
@Majere613 Ай бұрын
The Aquilons might possibly end up being broken. It's early to say that, of course, but they effectively give the Guard a unit that can pay 1CP at the end of enemy movement to stuff almost any charge and then add injury to insult by firing a free shot at the unit they did it to into the bargain. For fairly fragile units like Wyches, Daemonettes and Howling Banshees that are often relying on speed to get them into combat without getting shot too much that could be absolutely lethal. Even tougher elites like Incubi will need to respect that grenade launcher, or even the Flamer since there's nothing stopping the Aquilons still Overwatching the survivors when they try to charge. It's a shame about the Vespid special weapons. I'd've thought it'd be better to give them one special per 5, with a bonus one if there's a full squad of 10. Minimal action-monkey units will almost certainly be the only way they get run.
@Awesomotron2k
@Awesomotron2k Ай бұрын
Not just in rapid ingress, think about it. Just drop them normal, flame. Shooting phase, flame. Enemy movement overwatch flame again. 3d6+9 flamer shots before the enemy unit even activates. That's some serious chaff clear for 90 points. Not to mention that this is great for clearing far objectives and assasinate lone ops.
@wurstsalatplays523
@wurstsalatplays523 Ай бұрын
huh? this comment makes 0 sense :D, every unit can pay 1 cp and overwatch ? And they shoot their sentry as they shock down.. not after someone charges them ?
@Majere613
@Majere613 Ай бұрын
@@wurstsalatplays523 That's not what I'm getting at. Say you have an important unit that needs to stay out of combat and Lelith and a unit of Wyches have done one of the Skysplinter long-bomb moves to end up 5" away from them, ready to blend them in the charge phase. You pay 1CP, Rapid Ingress the Aquilons so they can drop in the gap with their 3" Deep Strike and block the charge. Then, because you set up the Aquilons, you get to shoot the turret shots at the Wyches right then, probably killing several. Then, especially if you brought the Flamer, when the Wyches do try to charge you can still use Overwatch to kill even more of them.
@wurstsalatplays523
@wurstsalatplays523 Ай бұрын
@@Majere613 with overwatch thats 2cp.. and scions can shock down and overwatch as it is rn ? (like EVERY unit with a flamer and deepstrike).. all u get is an aditional flamer shot when shockin down. Doesnt seem broken to me at all.. its not even a strong flamer.. there are uits with 5 flamers that can rapid ingress and overwatch u in alot of other armies..
@CmdrCabur
@CmdrCabur Ай бұрын
Does it even makes sense to take Pistol+Melee Weapon on the Tempestor? Sure, with the Power Weapon he would be slightly better in Melee (where you don't really want to end up anyway), but the Pistol and the turret lock each other out, right? But if you equip him with the Carbine, he would be able to shoot that AND the turret, or not?
@mistformsquirrel
@mistformsquirrel Ай бұрын
Oh I've been waiting for this one... those Aquilons look *mighty* tasty to me
@XealotCoils
@XealotCoils Ай бұрын
Hooray more units with AP2 D2 weapons just came out. I totally love having my extra wound be nullified.
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 Ай бұрын
Bruh they've been in game for 20 years lmao, these are just new models with a slight rules tweak and the same gun.
@captaincorundum9788
@captaincorundum9788 Ай бұрын
Jump Scions look insanely good
@jimmysmith2249
@jimmysmith2249 Ай бұрын
Not jump troops. They deep strike, but only walk (not fly) 6 inches.
@eidannishidan3794
@eidannishidan3794 Ай бұрын
the Servo-sentry can be abused by using a Valkyrie and spamming deep strike even after the first one.
@Captn_cloudwolf
@Captn_cloudwolf Ай бұрын
Can I ask, why can't vespers be guided, the for the greater good rule says if your army has the tau empire key word which ypthe vespid and kroot have as there faction key word?
@ichbineinberliner1776
@ichbineinberliner1776 Ай бұрын
Which rule takes precedence if they come into conflict? Precision Drop: DS in 3" or Omni-Scrambler: setup from reserve not nearer than 12" ?
@FaradisAnto
@FaradisAnto Ай бұрын
Can’t beats can
@lordhippoguy5658
@lordhippoguy5658 Ай бұрын
I love this channel, what Armies do you guys play?
@Oberkaptain
@Oberkaptain Ай бұрын
I just want all the scions to be available for imperial agents.
@Trinine9
@Trinine9 Ай бұрын
So nerf warp spiders, and swooping hawks cuz they are fast and can get to where they need to be and then they come out with an imperial unit that does it better and for half the cost that sounds about right
@Klierowski
@Klierowski Ай бұрын
GW balancing
@Trinine9
@Trinine9 Ай бұрын
@@Klierowski if you want a balanced game then go play chess
@basecode8
@basecode8 Ай бұрын
The GW Emperor protects his own units
@Trinine9
@Trinine9 Ай бұрын
@@basecode8 yeah that’s why more and more players are switching over to different games unfortunately
@chetmanley1885
@chetmanley1885 Ай бұрын
They're movement six and don't have fly, they are not in any way comparable to either unit other than they can deep strike.
@andyozFace
@andyozFace Ай бұрын
I think the 3inch deep strike will end up being “your movement phase only”. Far too many shenanigans with rapid ingress, blocking deep strike charges and putting rings around models etc. it’s just a pop up wall where you need it😂
@Living_Target
@Living_Target Ай бұрын
The were released for kill team right? Do the models transfer? Do they have the same scale?
@stephen9to5
@stephen9to5 Ай бұрын
I really am sad with these Aquilons. Move of 6" 😢 How come we only get one special weapon? No plasma on the Sarge is sad too😢. The 5 man can basically do what they do. Just was hoping for more. I play a full scion army and was hoping for a bit more After thinking With two squads that's 36 S3 AP -1 32 S4 AP -1 4 S8 ap-3 d2 That is a lot of shots
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
Aquilons can fire their, arguably stronger, Sentry Weapon twice (move and shooting phase) so there's that. However their damage will be lower than Scions (since no command squad and no rerolls). I think they'll probably end up serving a different role with more of a focus on clearing off vulnerable scoring units that can't be screened as easily for 3'' ds. Scions will still be better for actually killing more elite units/tougher stuff.
@firestarr5812
@firestarr5812 Ай бұрын
Oh, yeah. New Tempestus Aquilons are cool as hell.
@alphamav3rickgaming
@alphamav3rickgaming Ай бұрын
Rules as written wouldn’t the sentry gun prevent the sergeant from being able to shoot if they have a pistol equipped
@nozwelx_6518
@nozwelx_6518 Ай бұрын
No, pistols rule just says that you have to choose between firing pistols or firing other ranged weapons he would have to choose which of the two he wants to use, basically sentry for range pistol for melee or you could double up on primary weapons with a las carbine and be weak in melee
@alphamav3rickgaming
@alphamav3rickgaming 22 күн бұрын
@@nozwelx_6518 that’s literally what I said
@nozwelx_6518
@nozwelx_6518 22 күн бұрын
@@alphamav3rickgaming no technical the sentry doesn't exist as a standalone model so you can either A. Have to primary weapons you can dual fire with sentry gun and las gun or B. Have the sentry for long range and a pistol for Melee engagement. This is how literally ALL pistols work in game so ofc he can fire his pistol and the sentry weapon
@Acorbet86
@Acorbet86 Ай бұрын
How the hell are the vespid the same cost as scouts? Same profile except better move and fly. Better weapons. Insane redeploy rule.
@TheRealKyle
@TheRealKyle Ай бұрын
vespids are amaizng with their bounce rule being changed and their grenade launcher is amazing, D6 not D3, blast with that profile with ignore cover yes please. and the aquillons i think the scions are better , but i do like the idea to grenades when they deepstrike 3" 😂
@lullabygully4621
@lullabygully4621 Ай бұрын
Tempestus Trygons??
@Thethirdspy
@Thethirdspy Ай бұрын
Guess my sions are gaining some sentry guilds from necromunda
@scope40k
@scope40k Ай бұрын
Combat Squads rule and/or option to be joined by Tempestus Command Squad, could turn Aquillons from boring to pretty decent. Without any of these it's a skip.
@Trinine9
@Trinine9 Ай бұрын
4:00 90pts is cheap for that unit
@Klierowski
@Klierowski Ай бұрын
Way too cheap, 105-110 would good.
@Trinine9
@Trinine9 Ай бұрын
@@Klierowski that is Eldar levels of points costs and I think Elder are over costed I just don’t think they should be able to deep strike within 3 inches for only 90 points.
@Trinine9
@Trinine9 Ай бұрын
@@Klierowski and also the ability to deep strike and have high mobility is the reason swooping hawks and warp spiders have gone up drastically in points every time they they update the points then they come out with this unit
@Klierowski
@Klierowski Ай бұрын
Wooot, deepstrike within melta range is insane and should not be happening, especially with much more heavy weapons there in squad for this price.
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
They have one melta weapon. that's not gonna break anything.
@FaradisAnto
@FaradisAnto Ай бұрын
Obliterators would to have a word
@theStamax
@theStamax Ай бұрын
@@FaradisAnto their meltas got nerfed to 18 inches so they can't deepstrike within melta range anymore.
@FiannaBat
@FiannaBat Ай бұрын
Aquillons are so cool! I rly hope they dont get scalped super hard like last KT edition :
@Aserox
@Aserox Ай бұрын
Of course I'll add Aquilons and two friends play Tau so thats good, but as a set pack I have no interest in the books, so $300 AUD (or 150 split) for a team of 10 men? I'll wait and use proxies for now.
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 Ай бұрын
A slight bummer because i hopped for leggit jumppack guard.
@Squiggypie
@Squiggypie Ай бұрын
So WHY didn't the BROOD BROTHERS get their OWN DATASHEET?!?
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
Because they already have brood brothers in 40k?
@valkyriegremory
@valkyriegremory Ай бұрын
At this rate i would love to see sisters of battle serphirone (cant spell their name) with x1 lighting claws, x1 thunder hammer or something or they get their own version of a vinactor. I would love to see old character get a update to make them more in line like flyers.
@felixmichael2904
@felixmichael2904 Ай бұрын
Rule of Cool it is for me -》 Dual Wielding Pistols all the way!
@beans6001
@beans6001 Ай бұрын
I hope the scion comman aquad gets changed to lead them
@claytonleal7947
@claytonleal7947 Ай бұрын
as cool as the weapon profiles are it still feels bad to run units, from your own army that dont have access to your army rule. These guys either needed to be stronger then average for their points to make them ubiquitously good in any of the 4 detachments. being a point farmer is nice, just bouncing around doing secondary's is always a nice unit to have and the tau definitely needed something to do the uppy downy thing that was relevant... if they could guide/be guided would it suddenly make tau broken? if they kroot could guide/be guided would they be broken? im all for fluff but dont nerf the units in their own army, it felt like a spit in the face seeing the kroot detatchment having a pseudo army rule instead of not just baking those extra buffs into their base stats. they would still see niche play even with the extra beef.
@delta35thereal
@delta35thereal Ай бұрын
oh no the unit that doesnt do melee cant charge such a downside
@jeremiegartner464
@jeremiegartner464 Ай бұрын
As a warp talon player this is BULL. All these units getting up and down but Warp Talons have to kill something to go up for way more points.
@Unknown-qj9sm
@Unknown-qj9sm Ай бұрын
It’s a melee problem unfortunately. Doing it with guns after your opponent has a full turn to kill them is valued much different than a melee unit that gets in and leaves before an opponent can deal with them fairly. Melee is more Killy than range so it’s a scarier thing in general and if you don’t pick them up can lock a unit down effectively killing it.
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 Ай бұрын
A bit weird for the rail rifle to not have the precision keyword when it's clearly a sniper.. but hey. Overall its just a flat buff accross the boad which was needed. They can now be taken by 10 (and you are STRONGELY incentivized to take them like that as otherwise you won't have access to the special weapons), they have decent weapon options and the once per game drone. This is one of the rare case where GW found a way to make the "free wargear" actually work, by making it "cost" you to have take more models than you probably want for such a fragile unit usually used to do some objective shenanigans Sadly, it's once again one of thos "you have to take one of each of thos special weapons" rather than "pick up to 3 from that list", which means a bunch or random missmatched guns that makes the attack roll a pain in the dick and rpevent you from having any real specialization to your squad (can't have a 3 flamer squad, or 3 grenade launcher, etc). I really, REALLY do hate the way they have done the Sentry for the Aquillon tho. Basically the sentry is a token (can we stop with fucking token ffs? This is a fucking wargame, the minies are not tokens!), and one of your aquillon is actually the one carrying the sentry gun... And ... that's it. You can just zoom around, shoot the sentry weapon every turn because the sentry just magically move with your squad and all... Its so lame. All they had to do was to have it be a 1 unit model that break off from the tempestus on the drop and have a M1 or something, it would have been actually fun.
@Chris-jl6vp
@Chris-jl6vp Ай бұрын
Not My Elysians.
@Boxfortress
@Boxfortress Ай бұрын
Buggers heading over the rooftops!
@matel4692
@matel4692 Ай бұрын
Pisses me off to no end that the Night Lords didn't get a datasheet for their dedicated squad
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
Womp womp. They’re Undivided. Only the big 4 or black legion get rules
@WordoftheFree
@WordoftheFree Ай бұрын
Do they get born soldiers?
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 Ай бұрын
Sure, anything with the Regiment code has it and they do
@scelonferdi
@scelonferdi Ай бұрын
Aquillons are a prime example of a badly adapted Kill Team. That Datasheet is way to complicated! Just give them their special weapons and don't try to make their specialists distinct (in 40k). Also not every weapon option that they have needs to be available within the same squad.
@cavemansam8400
@cavemansam8400 Ай бұрын
Vespid Stingwing ❌ Kroot Carnivore kitbash with Tyranid Gargoyle wings ✅
@YouWinAFREEiPOD
@YouWinAFREEiPOD Ай бұрын
I'd suggest just stealing the wings from a $5 monster from the D&D line of miniatures that are probably selling in the same hobby shop you'd get Warhammer stuff from.
@Fortunes.Fool.
@Fortunes.Fool. Ай бұрын
What about hang gliders?
@welderbear6757
@welderbear6757 Ай бұрын
Fellow man of science I see
@cavemansam8400
@cavemansam8400 Ай бұрын
@@welderbear6757You know I’m something of a scientist myself.. 😏👹
@glebscheglov9291
@glebscheglov9291 Ай бұрын
Hi! I only recently found your channel, and it's been a great help for me as a WH40k newbie. I have a question for you, or for people here. Sorry about it not being about the video, but i kinda hoping for an quick answer. I bought Starter Set for 10th ed. And i kinda want to try my hand in Combat Patrol mode. The box i got is missing a single unit for both Space Marines and Tyranids. I'm wondering - if i buy a ballistus\brutalis dreadnought and add it to space marines - i actually get 510 points force. Would it be okay to play this in Combat Patrols and do i even allowed to do something like this?
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
Combat Patrol is its own mode with its own datasheets. Throwing in a dread when it’s not part of the patrol is only going to skew the list and unbalance the game. Just play normal 40k at that point.
@glebscheglov9291
@glebscheglov9291 Ай бұрын
@@CMTechnica what is a minimal point value needed to play normal 40k?
@comradedragon
@comradedragon Ай бұрын
​@glebscheglov9291 a fairly typical army is gonna be 1000 points, but the smallest you can normally run is 500 points in small scale skirmishes.
@CarnageCoon
@CarnageCoon Ай бұрын
make new stuff make it good sales nerf it
@Egalia_1
@Egalia_1 Ай бұрын
Do yall need sleep? This is like the dozenth video in the last three days
@Damnedlegion40k
@Damnedlegion40k Ай бұрын
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@reeceskinner2776 Ай бұрын
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@lightning1403
@lightning1403 Ай бұрын
If the Aquilons could be deployed in a 5 block, I would be more interested. Also if I could get them for cheaper. Even if I split the cost of a box with a Tau player, 10 bucks per trooper? No thanks.
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 Ай бұрын
Bet you could convert them pretty easily from Scions + bits. Or get some *cough* recast Elysian drop troops
@LordCrate-du8zm
@LordCrate-du8zm Ай бұрын
Guys, hear me out, we should have a Suppressor Kill Team for Space Marines. They could be entirely new sculpts with more variety in war gear, but finally make Suppressors available for Space Marine players outside of buying the box set.
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