New! 48V 5kW EG4 Chargeverter

[@WillProwse]

EG4 is doing a launch event for my viewers where they are giving away free chargeverters to customers who buy 2 or more 6kw or 6.5kw inverters before June 1st. Just add 2+ inverters to your cart, or a solar kit, and the chargeverter will be added for free: 2X 6500EX kit w/ Free Chargeverter: signaturesolar.com/eg4-13kw-off-grid-split-phase-inverter-bundle-2-x-6500ex-48-13000w-output-16000w-pv-input-split-phase-120-240vac-all-in-one-solar-inverter-system/?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN Complete System w/ Free Chargeverter: signaturesolar.com/complete-all-in-one-off-grid-solar-kit-kit-e0000?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN To purchase chargeverter on its own, click here: signaturesolar.com/eg4-chargeverter-battery-charger-48v-100a-5120w-output-240/120v-input?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN

[@redzepplin7397]

thank you!

[@SetitesTechAdventures]

Darn, I bought two like a month ago. Ah well.

[@Alaskaskydiver]

Will this also work with 4 12v batteries connected in series for a 48v system?

[@KissAnalog]

I worked for a solar power generator company as the senior managing engineer - but they are on hard times! So I got laid off. But that’s great! I felt bad working with them. I am going back to the defense industry and working for Lockheed Martin. Skunk works! I think your videos are amazing - and you should be honored with an engineering degree. Thank you for these videos!

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

@@Alaskaskydiver I don't see why not if you plug put the charger cables in the right spot. That's just my thought hopefully somebody else brings in an answer

[@GavinStoneDIY]

When you wheeled the generator over the solar panels may have been my favorite part.

[@fu4616]

I was like NOOOOOO

[@paulgrn1]

Yeah, I'm like... what is this guy thinking! ;-)

[@NeroAD64]

@@paulgrn1 Will can afford it.

[@VladVassiliouk]

Door mats? Just put down some solar panels

[@carlosberrio2206]

Solar panels ,whathever the brand maker are very sturdy .

[@AvocaSingleTrack]

When your cabin is in the frozen northeast, you only get a few hours solar a day in winter. Wind can help but a genny is a must have. If things are going bad, it's nice to be able to charge quickly.

[@patrickd9551]

Well apparently it's also a must in sunny Texas when those windturbines freeze over 🤣

[@SaabAholic]

Not all of us get as much sun as Las Vegas has. In the PNW, a gas powered generator is a must-have!

[@fasteddie1]

When you're done, Will, I can come pick up the generator. I wouldn't want you to be burdened with it lying around your shop! :)

[@patrickd9551]

yeah right, he just low key added a reliable backup power source to his system. Somehow I don't think he wants to part ways with it, but somehow has to maintain his online disdain for fossil fuel systems 🤣

[@silverice9]

Hey just wanted to point out another really nice use case for this product. People that have cheaper all-in-one units like growatts and 6500ex/lv6548 have a TON of issues with ground/neutral bonding when they try and supplement their solar/battery power with grid power. This lets everyone in that boat disconnect their AIO units from the grid entirely, and connect through DC using this product. Should make a lot of people's homes safer, and fix a ton of issues with parallel pathways etc. To clarify, I mean using this chargeverter with grid power to supplement solar, not using it with a gen.

[@andrewt9204]

Good point. I have an LV6048 and was worried about that, but someone that took theirs apart on the forums did confirm that it does have a bonding relay that goes to open on grid bypass mode. But that relay could fail and you would never really know. The only downside is you'd be cycling your batteries all the time if you were primarily using it for grid backup. Not as big of a problem with LFP obviously.

[@robinboling9531]

Dealing with that exact issue and have come upon that exact solution, I wish you could use solar/home assistant to control the amperage though. Ideally when the batteries are low I could have home assistant apply charge at whatever rate the load is to effectively zero current to the batteries.

[@tomtruong7432]

@@andrewt9204 Hi Andrew. I think I'm in the same boat as you. I've got a Sungoldpower version of the LVX6048 and I'm a bit lost on the ground-neutral bond situation. Is there a setting in the AIO unit itself I can change to separate it? My unit makes an awful sound and eventually fails with an error code when I try to do solar - battery - utility versus solar-utiliity-battery.

[@silverice9]

@@andrewt9204 Yeah, I think if I went with a parallel voltronics AIO (2-6), i'd probably spend the money on a chargeverter just for piece of mind. On a single one... YOLO 😂😂

[@silverice9]

@@tomtruong7432 When you are in SUB mode, are you drawing from the batteries ever? If not, I would guess the problem lies somewhere between the battery and the connection to the inverter. The battery usually doesnt get involved in SUB mode, so that could be why you don't see the problem in that mode.

[@maverickmacgyver]

You are the third SolarTuber reviewing this Chargeverter! I love this concept and must get one soon. Thanks for the review.

[@nwboater3916]

Will, keep in mind those of us in northern climes (Washington state) -- we live on an island and have numerous power outages all winter long. Solar is impracticable, so gasoline or diesel generators are a necessity. The EG4 Chargeverter makes good sense...it will be part of the battery system I have planned for later this year (8Kw gas generator to the Chargeverter to 10kWh 48V battery bank to 6Kw inverter to the house panel)

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

There are numerous channels out there even more to the north of you which run their off grid homesteads all year long with solar an batteries. Don't say its impracticable... Say: "I do not want to do the hard work".

[@vhateverlie]

​@@wolfgangpreier9160or say I don't want to have a solar system twice the size just so it can function for 2 months of the year... There is a cost associated with those people who have just solar, they're way over kill in the summer months.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@TallTexasGMan So you say they are all scammers and want to extract our hard earned money out of our pockets just to have a good life? Thats called capitalism. I guess they are perfectly well behaved in that regard. Do they actually all live in a Condo in Miami and everything is faked in CGI? Do they actually have a full blown production company at their site and everything is filmed in green screen? Or maybe they actually live nearby in the next big city spending the millions they got on ManiPedi, live their high life in the 5 star Spa and let the city do all the hard work. I just have to look at the queer Vanwifes and Martin Johnson and oh so many others to know that they all have no idea what they are doing and talking about and never had to work a day in their whole life. And fer sure they do not incorporate Photovoltaics to save come measly cents on their electric bill. Surely NOT! Maybe you should work on your own perception?

[@upnorthandpersonal]

@@vhateverlie I'm at 63 degrees north. No matter how many solar panels I would put, I won't generate anything in dead of winter. We just don't see the sun at all...

[@edc1569]

relying on a supply of gasoline during an emergency seems impractical to me

[@markgilder9990]

Hi Will. It’s nice to see you doing so well. Thank you for your vids. With your tutorials I installed my own grid tie system 2 years ago and it’s saved me an absolute fortune considering the cost is energy in the U K now.

[@ingy23]

Hi Mark, which system did you go with in the UK doing it as a diyer and how did you get on with the G98/G99 applications. Thanks in advanced.

[@Seqhael]

God I would love if they had that same 120/240v chargeverter in 24v with high amperage

[@frasermacleod9243]

The test generator you used was an inverter generator that produces nice clean pure sine wave power, might be good to test it with regular generator that produces the 'dirty power " you mentioned

[@patrickd9551]

cheap inverter generators are actually the ones that produces dirty power and can't handle much variation in load. Just look at Victron inverters and how much electronics is needed to produce actual clean sine power. These cheap generators don't have the amount of space availble to pull that off. Just take a look at James Condon, he repairs generators and also load tests them, including the "dirtyness"

[@andrewfidel2220]

Will, another possible use with the dial-a-charge is to run a generator in ECO mode to keep the noise down while boondocking.

[@deadmule1]

Excellent explanation on why this may be best... I'm going to add to our system. We are completely off grid in southern Colorado Mountains and weather is never predictable

[@daimonvilppu6439]

Will, Thanks for this. I have lots of Off-Grid clients here in Colorado with 25 year or more old systems that need more charging power but do not want to upgrade their entire system since it otherwise works just fine. This product is perfect for these people that I have installed EG4 batteries to replace their Lead-Acid. Love your reviews. Please keep doing them!

[@chevrofreak]

I installed my EG4 Chargeverter and an L14-30 generator inlet this past week and tested it out with my Firman tri-fuel generator running on natural gas. What a beast. I had been trying to figure out how to do the same thing by combining 4-6 of the smaller EG4 battery chargers, but that was going to cost a lot more money. This is the solution I had been looking for, and I am thrilled that EG4 released it before I did something stupid.

[@tyronetrump1612]

Same here! I haven't received mine yet and hope I never need it but it is godsend!

[@raydzek]

So... they took a known, previously undocumented, problem with their equipment and flipped it into a revenue stream. Genius. And yes. I will be ordering one, probably next week.

[@vhfgamer]

"An undersized generator, with a dirty AC output..." You mean the US power grid?

[@GeeCeeAte]

**EDIT** also this is HUGE for another reason. Whenever my inverter (MS4448) senses grid power, or is charging from the grid (my generator with me being off grid) it goes into passthrough mode. So I have DIRTY sine waves from the generator running my whole house. Lights flicker when it throttles up and down, my 20k$ development PCS dont like it at all. No matter what I do I cant get ito to run from the batteries and just charge the batteries. It ALWAYS defaults to charging from the grid and supplying you from the "grid". With this system you can still run your sweet sweet perfect sine wave inverters, all without them knowing about power charging the batteries. **Original. you LITERALLY just solved 5 years of battery trouble with me being off grid. I have a "pure sine wave" inverter/generator from honda. but the signal is really dirty. I notice that when i get solar to charge my batteries, they last forever. Yet, the second i charge a bank from my generator it almost ruins the bank. Ive spent the past years going over settings, everything. This is exactly what i need!

[@my_channel_44]

Something wrong with your Honda if it isn't putting out clean power.

[@GeeCeeAte]

@@my_channel_44 She needs a new eco throttle switch. So it kicks in and out to high revs vs low. Only for a split second. But, the router, starlink, computers, everything in the house restarts. I know the house cant take too many more surges like that. I could def turn off the eco throttle. but Eco throttle charges the batteries with 1 gallon, and Eco Off takes 3 gallons to charge the batteries

[@dayneanderson]

What a great product. One improvement I would suggest is upgrading this charger to allow charging for 12v/24v batteries. Lots of us out there with smaller systems that would love this feature.

[@mattg8787]

right my dads doing a 48v and im doing a 24v setup

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

I know that would be great

[@johnwolf1475]

why not just use a 25 amp lithium battery charger

[@JC-cc6qh]

Li time does make a high quality 12v lithium charge. Don't know about 24v though.

[@bmxican1023]

Glad they made this! No doubt there’s a good amount of “dirty electricity” using square wave harbor freight generator/inverters

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

Until seeing this video I never knew anything about this problem. It kind of really sucks having an all-in-one inverter if the charger doesn't work properly unless you have 22,000 w or you're plugged into extremely good Shore power. But I guess I I am glad saw the video before I plugged in my generator to the all-in-one. I was considering doing that in mines a cheap predator 3500 so I don't ruin my all-in-one inverter. I thought the Predator 3500 was supposed to have a pretty clean inverter but maybe it doesn't. What is the price of this charger to you know offhand. I haven't seen that yet I wonder if you could charge you're 48 V golf cart I don't know much about golf carts but I just thought of that

[@Tumbleweed5150]

@@VinceBadovinatz88 Will has a link to this above, but the price for one is $399.00.

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

@@Tumbleweed5150 thank you

[@Tezza66]

its just 2 server rack power supplies inside basically. surprised you never took it apart.

[@bobjohnson4512]

Look into propane generators instead of gasoline or diesel. Once I got rid of my gas-powered mower my gas sits around forever. Propane doesn't produce as much power and I don't know how the cost compares but you can keep it around a long time without it degrading. Hopefully, you won't need a generator enough to keep your gas fresh.

[@glennsonne9786]

Thank you Will. I will be buying one of these for a grid failure situation, running this via a 5500 watt generator at about 4KW charging my 40 KWh of batteries. Basically a fail safe on a natural gas backed up generator.

[@philepling2470]

To be all things to all people! This is our calling. Love you Bro! 👍

[@sharingsociety5272]

This is Matthew Leach with Dragon Off Grid Solar in North California. I will be buying two of these chargeverters along with some EG4 6/6.5kW Inverters for my off grid solar clients. Expect a testing and results video in the near future. Thanks Will

[@johnhufnagel]

I like this. this is awesome. It makes it stupid easy AND safe for the other equipment, to recharge your batteries from "ancient technology" when the new fangled stuff decides to break. :D I've got SO many ideas running around right now, on how that would be completely useful.

[@johnhufnagel]

and rather than try to figure out which other comment to reply to, I'll reply to my own. :D while I'd hate to "feature creep" this 'chargeverter', one thing I could potentially see being useful, is a rudimentary built-in timer control for it, so it could be scheduled to charge the batteries from it's source at specific time(s). unless someone knows of a cheap (sub-$50) inline 240v outlet timer. I could probably rig up something but that's getting a touch sketchy.

[@acinfla9615]

Been waiting for these to come in and to get your review. I have had issues charging with a generator so this is a great solution. Thank you

[@nunyabusiness9760]

You should have picked a non-inverter (legacy) generator, those are the "dirty" generators. Many of us have that older style and they are the ones that are likely to cause a problem. Voltronic (MPP, EG4) has a paper on their site about using a generator and says that older style non-inverters are the ones that can cause problems. The inverter type would have no problem powering the all-in-one. Too bad, I would like to have known if the Chargeverter would have worked on my old Generac 7550 generator.

[@WillProwse]

Very good point! I'm asking friends to see if I can borrow one. Or if someone has a older RV with one attached. And yes it is absolutely designed to work with them. My understanding is you can connect it to any size or age generator and it will work.

[@HeyPasBon]

I have a HF 9500 inverter generator, I’m hoping I don’t have any issues because that’s why I bought the inverter style.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@WillProwse signature solar confirmed that with me. I plan on testing it on a real terrible one I have. 25% thd.

[@WillProwse]

@@GavinStoneDIY 25?! Holy cow!

[@WillProwse]

I had no clue the THD could be that awful. Yes I need to find one of those to use instead. That's just insane.

[@browsedeweb8834]

I'm considering purchasing the Chargeverter so I can recharge the batteries with my generator while my Growatt 12k is powering the loads. Without the chargeverter, the generator would be passed through the Growatt and would not be able to handle the high inrush spikes of the whole house HVAC system. This seems like a good value, but I'd like to see more testing and real world experience to make sure it is reliable.

[@GG-sj2wg]

I've had one of these closing in on a year now. Used it most days this winter. Love it!

[@brokenarrowoutdoors2467]

Can you charge more than one battery at a time?

[@GG-sj2wg]

@@brokenarrowoutdoors2467 Yes I use it to charge my bank of six 5kWH batteries.

[@GG-sj2wg]

@@brokenarrowoutdoors2467 Yup. Takes about 3 hours to go from 25% to 100% on my 30kWH battery bank.

[@ChrisOjustWatchingTheTube]

So glad you did this video. I was planning on connecting my gas generator to an EG4 directly. You probably saved me $8k as I’m probably going to need four 6500’s to run our whole house!!!

[@rongray4118]

McMansion?!? LOL!!

[@txhomestead]

Sounds like there may be some issues with some generators damaging AIO inverters while battery charging. My guess is that a good inverter generator with pure sine wave signal would avoid most issues, however; if SS is saying there is a need for the generator to have a 2x higher max output than the AIO inverter, that be quite important information to know before designing your system. It sounds like Will is already on the case so I’m sure he’ll come back later after testing and clarify like always!

[@MikeGrayM70]

I'm also curious about whether the issue with connecting a generator directly to an AIO refers to a conventional or inverter generator. This is the first I've heard of it.

[@Blackbird-zo1su]

You can use a pure sign wave inverter generator to charge the batteries. The issue is with dirty power. SS recommends a generator 2-3 times the size of the system to avoid dirty power. They are not taking into account a well proven pure sine wave inverter generator like the predator 3500. Spoke recently with SS about this. The chargeverter is largely for construction generators.

[@tyronetrump1612]

@@Blackbird-zo1su I think a 3500 would faceplant trying to run even a single LV6548 in pass thru mode. The chargeverter is largely to allow batteries to be charged while inverting

[@TheTexasHorseman]

My favorite part of the video was when you discovered there was no 240v outlet UNTIL you walked the generator on a handtruck over your ground solar panels! LMFAO DUDE!

[@Celestialrob]

Hey Will, we are working with your friends at Signature Solar on a four, 6.5kW EG4 inverter system with 3-4 racks of their batteries. This addresses one of my issues directly. Awesome news - thanks! Those panels must be tough to roll that generator across.

[@WillProwse]

Awesome! Glad I can help :)

[@noyopacific]

I was just looking for anything Will might have covered in the past about using liquid fueled (gas, LPG or diesel) generators. For people living without electric utility service this is a common and can be a practical option. I had wondered if Will might have some kind of weird religious objection to liquid fueled generators. 😜I can understand his aversion and ignorance about generators however for some of us it is the most practical choice for backup power. Thanks for the video Will !

[@andycanfixit]

That's pretty awesome. I have a Cummins Onan 7000 watt QG series fuel injected generator, it was free to me, just needed some maintenance, super quiet however it only outputs 120 volts on 2 circuits, each being 3500 watts. It's power output however is very clean. I have one of the two circuits going to a Growatt that I use just for 120 volt loads, adding one of these to the second circuit I could then use the full output of the generator to charge batteries in an extended outage or just use it on the one circuit and not need to use the Growatt for charging from the generator at all. Much better deal than the Aims one and the easy to use display to set the settings would make it even easier to setup. Really nice. Being able to use both circuits at 3000 watts each would allow me to charge my battery bank in about 4 to 5 hours and then turn off the generator, way better than having to run it longer. I will say, fuel injected is the only way to go for a gas generator, no more dealing with gummed up carbs. If the fuel is old, swap it, hit the primer button to flush fresh fuel into it and boom it fires right up.

[@isovideo7497]

If the two 120V outputs are the same phase, you're right. If they are the opposite phase, then you have 240VAC and the chargeverter works best with that as its input. You could put an AC voltmeter across the two live signals to check.

[@andycanfixit]

@@isovideo7497 Sadly they are on the same phase, confirmed via meter, they use a different setup in the coil for the 120/240 volt version. But for a free generator I can't complain, it's super quiet and very reliable.

[@pryda1]

It's nice to see that someone got a working product from signature solar. I've joined the long list of customers who received an inverter that's DOA and I'm 7 or 8 days in to the painstaking return process they have. A quick YT search reveals this is a big problem. I wonder how many others without a YT channel are having the same problem. If you have any pull with the company I'd suggest you inform them they have a huge quality control and major tech support issues showing up on youtube channels of regular people in bigger and bigger numbers.

[@WillProwse]

Post it on our forum www.diysolarforum.com

[@pryda1]

@@WillProwse Thanks for the invite and that's a nice forum you've created. Not sure what I can gain by posting it on the forum since SS acknowledged they sold me broken inverter. OK so stuff happens. However the return process is enough to for me to avoid them and the EG4 products in the future. 7 days after the level 2 tech acknowledged the unit was bad I've been moved from the "resolution" department to the RMA team. No replacement sent yet or arrangements for returning the defective unit. Unacceptable. Instead of just shipping a replacement with a return shipping label when the tech acknowledged they needed to send me a new one. They are dragging their feet sending me emails about passing me between god knows how many different people. Who the heck does business like this?

[@pryda1]

@@WillProwse Tried that but my registration was rejected. Your forum membership requirements seem to be like SS multi step tech support. Lot's of BS only to end up getting no where fast.

[@assortedmountainlife]

3:50 Will, you should buy some acreage and become an off-grid charging station 🤣

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

I know right that would be so cool

[@Dw-ux1ez]

Almost exactly what I need in my RV. Genny not playing well with my Growatt to charge my 24V lipo4 battery! Just need a 24v version. :)

[@jamesray9009]

I was looking into dual fuel generator when I get to start building my system... storing propane is way safer than trying to get gas in an emergency.. but I also have 3 acres and would rather cut the grass in the shade of panels :) ..

[@EspHack]

funny thing is, your ancestors are still around and buying it :P

[@shaunnightfire8269]

Thanks Will - this was exactly what I needed for my current build!

[@AlAndValOffGrid]

Bought one for my 3 EG4 Lifepower 48 v battery array. Getting ready to set it up and try charging for the first time. I'm going to set it at the recommended 85 Amps and see how long it takes to charge up to 100% from various SOC's. First test will be from 50% to full charge and I'll give you a total time on that.

[@AlAndValOffGrid]

Based upon settings of 57 volts, 77.5 amps (matched for maximum efficiency of my Champion 8000/10000 watt generator using propane for this test and a constant running wattage of around 7250) with a 49% battery SOC at the beginning of the charge, it tool 2 hours, 51 minutes to charge 3 batteries to 98.7% (I stopped the charging as I had to run an errand). This would have taken around 6 hours or more using my old 48V 18 amp charger. This will in effect halve my typical time and propane consumption. I might get better results running on gasoline, ( the running wattage is a bit higher so I could up the amperage a little) but the cost is about 75% more per gallon cost of propane here. I can potentially stretch a 40 lb propane tank out for 6 days of cloudy/snowy weather which us usual for this time of year here in the snow belt. When it's actually sunny, I can fully charge my 3 batteries from a 40% SOC in under 5 hours with my 12 Canadian Solar 445 Watt BiFacial panels.

[@greg925911]

Will ! Will ! Will ! Look at what we have Here, you know your good when one takes your knowledge from your book and uses it. I hope this makes your day man, I watch a lot of KZbin, and this is the first time I've heard someone promote you and your book, then again maybe I'm late to that show

[@ArizonaHotHomestead]

Thank you so much for this video. I am off grid n use a propane generator. My winters I could get 2 full weeks of snow cloud so a generator is a must.

[@chevrofreak]

I am surprised that you didn't pick up the Firman generator that is on sale at Costco. It has tri-fuel capability so you would never have to mess with gasoline, and it has both NEMA 14-50 and L14-30 twist lock receptacles.

[@busimagen]

Can you explain what the tri-fuel capability means?

[@vhateverlie]

​@@busimagengasoline, propane, natural gas. Propane and natural gas will reduce the max and continuous output though.

[@Augusto88359]

Thanks will!! I’ve been waiting for this one

[@BadSector]

Learned a lot from you, Solar noob here but making progress... Thanks man..

[@johnpatrick1588]

I love my 15-year-old portable gas generator plus wired into the house in hurricane alley for $300 plus gas. My generator sits in a shelter so noise or smell.

[@Vibe77Guy]

Thanks Will! I was thinking about that issue of charging through an all in one from the 8750watt generator that does not have a clean inverted output. Probably worth the extra money. Also some all in one systems will not feed from batteries while being ac charged. This would eliminate that issue as well.

[@paulharward7697]

I don't know if this will help anyone or not, but I called Signature Solar to get some clarification from them on Will's statements concerning generators and all in one inverters. If you have an off the grid situation as i do with a cabin, generator use at times is an only option. So the message i took from Will was that you would need a 22KW generator and that a smaller generator will cause the all in one inverter not to work. Their response to me was that some generators send out such erratic sine waves that the inverter won't work with the AC power it is receiving. If your generator works then it works and you're fine. There is no damage happening, it just either works or doesn't. Also they are not recommending a 22KW generator, but they do recomment that the generator that you use have twice the AC output that your inverter puts out. So if you have a 3KW inverter, then have at least a 6KW generator. Maybe this info helps others as it does me. Thanx for all the good work Will.

[@KissAnalog]

I am a power engineer - and I think you are absolutely amazing!!!

[@Intellistan]

Awesome. A clutch move for dudes in HOAs that prohibit permanent solar panels that want to keep a stack of server rack batteries ready to go with their generator. Good stuff bro

[@ciliap]

In July Florida Law overrides HOAS for metal roofing and solar panels

[@melissasmess2773]

People probably laughed when you loaded a generator into your electric vehicle 😂

[@Val-xi4we]

Wish you would have gotten the larger harbor freight generator with electric start. Then test if the 6500EX could start it when battery level gets low. Secondary test to see if the 6500EX could turn the generator back off when battery level rises to a set point. And NOT use the 6500EX for the charging, using the Chargeverter, only using the 6500EX for generator start/stop.

[@Djhoodrich.]

When you said this is what my ancestors use I died🤣🤣🤣

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video Will! Thanks for making it.

[@cybertrk]

They should make a j1772 female receiver for that unit. I guess there’s some adapters that could make that happen.

[@3D_Printing]

5Kw output that will keep you very warm fire

[@Tumbleweed5150]

That's why I would use a fire-proof backer-board between this and any wood I mounted this unit on. ;)

[@tsp2jxd]

Handy device. Now go return that genny!

[@tincankiller6454]

Thanks for the video Will I order one of those last week just to have for trashy output generators. Unfortunately, it's on BO. Stay Safe & Good Luck

[@yolo_burrito]

That’s a really cool unit especially in grid down scenarios.

[@jonanderson4280]

"this is what my ancestors used" 😂😂

[@jrg2068]

But you bought an invertor generator, not a dirty 25% THD generator. Will it really work with one of these little dirty generators?

[@curtesamoangelos5995]

Watching from Yosemite Kentucky. Like the video.

[@mikekrueger3929]

I ordered one about two weeks ago but they are back ordered. I have an inverter generator and currently run it through my inverter but when house loads are high the genny rpm’s fluctuate and a couple lights flicker. I thought it would be easier on my appliances and inverter to just run off of the batteries while charging them with the chargeverter.

[@fredleonati5428]

Awesome videos Will mostly I like how honest you are about the products you test. I've learned so much watching you so much so I'm thinking off going solar for my home in case of power outages or even going off the grid completely. I was looking at the renogy 5000 power box and was wondering what your thoughts were on it? Perhaps test one some day ? 😁

[@morgananderson9647]

Thanks for sharing this with us! I was unsure what this would be good for if you have all the charge inverters... At first I was wondering if you (Will) was working with some glue in his workshop and accidentally inhaled some of the vapors! Good to see everything is alright and there is definitely some method to your madness! Again, thanks for sharing this!

[@TKO67]

"This is what my ancestors used" Classic !!!!

[@ctuan13]

I'm still so upset you had such an awful experience with your Lightning! You're absolutely right that it's the perfect for power testing and backup energy storage, etc. I use the Pro-Power On-board outputs all the time. I've had my Lightning since October of last year and have had zero issues with mine. It's disappointing that yours was a lemon. It does seem that the Platinum trim level trucks are more prone to issues than any of the others.

[@djerniet350]

Ancient technologies, my ancestors used to use these.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leafnutz2341]

I see your Anker 767 now has an expansion battery.... Looking forward to seeing how much solar you can get it to take. Overpaneling is gonna be a challenge.

[@mylesoffgrid]

I do the same thing with my growatt 5000es left over. I plug gas Genny in to charge my 48v 1160ah pack! Does great for the cloudy days in nov-jan in canada

[@andyo.593]

You should convert your generator to run on propane. Grenergy makes a drill free kit that’s all bolt on with no fuel adjustments. Probably the best kit out there.

[@shitloveaduck]

“This is what my ANCESTORS used!” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@timswift6741]

I've been waiting for this for a long time!

[@chrisfree2000]

I ordered mine, still waiting for delivery!

[@N8TheSnake]

What you said about the all in one system failures related to generator connections is a major bummer. I was of the opinion that, within reason, you could throw a 7k-9k generator on these things and charge the systems no problem. Do you think this is true of ALL systems or just the EG4 brand?

[@tyronetrump1612]

It's all of the units. You cannot invert and charge batteries at the same time

[@HotNoob]

in canada, gas is the way to go... cuz gl starting diesel in -40*C when u need it. so this is nice.

[@youcamp132]

I dumped my gas generator years ago for a propane generator. Much less stinky and you can put huge propane tanks on it.

[@TechmanSolar]

Another excellent video Will. Thank you so much :)

[@igowhereimtowed6839]

Can you help me out. Why do I need this charger? Both the 3000 and 6500 have adjustable output for current. You can adjust the output to the rating of your generator.

[@robertchapa5878]

Will the same problem occur to the all in one system if an inverter generator is plugged into it? Don't inverter generators put out pure sine wave?

[@kele1264]

"This is what my ancestors used" 🤣😂

[@PaulDinwiddie]

I would like to get your opinion on Mango Power System products. I have been following you for years, and therefore, I know that you are the only one (that I know) who will give me their unbiased thoughts. You are the man!

[@PaulDinwiddie]

@Giveawayy1713 Scamer ALERT!

[@russbritt4100]

Good to know im generator dependent solar powered in north Idaho since 1983. Hopefully this chargeverter works with automatic generator start

[@AskIveSolar]

I would use this to charge a server rack battery and use it as a separate backup battery bank instead of a gas generator. I just did a Livestream discussing this idea. I kinda prefer batteries over a gas genny.

[@chuck7465]

Perfect timing, that is exactly what I need!

[@rossfischer]

This is dope. Now I just need to figure out a way to auto-start the generator when SoC reaches a certain threshold...

[@huskypup3489]

You can limit the grid charging current on a hybrid inverter so that it doesn't over-load the generator. Still, I would make sure the generator is the inverter type and I would not run the generator at full load. I've charged batteries through an MPP 3kW inverter using a Honda EU2200i with no issues.

[@mfgxl]

You should have rented a generator instead of buying one, since you love them so much.

[@fvrrljr]

i Love harbor freight You're the BEST!

[@fortwoods]

I know you've been broke so maybe you can relate. The use case for one of these is to save money on batteries. Batteries are getting cheaper but they are still expensive. A cheap harbor freight generator and this running just an hour a day can dramatically decrease your battery requirements and get you off grid for a lot cheaper. You might have fun running the numbers but the big thing is you don't have to overbuild your battery system to account for cloudy days.

[@WillProwse]

Very true

[@zippythechicken]

yeah not sure i would put 99 amps through there for an extended period of time but

[@dollyone3714]

you need an app for EV free charging, i think they will regulate/limit on how much you can charge for free

[@rickharold7884]

Yea this is beautiful. Generators always have dirty output. I had a growatt which would not take my generator power bcz 65hz!! I had moved from Chicago to Utah 4500 ft and it affected the hz. Love this charger. And yes I avoid the generators as much as possible i hate them.

[@xgouldiex]

You can adjust the hz output of your generator it's easy to do just look it up on you I check and adjust mine each time I do a service

[@rickharold7884]

@@xgouldiex yea, Roger that. I did the adjustments as recommended at the time. This 65 was the closest to 60. I also called and emailed the manufacturer. The 4500 ft and -10F were issues. Unfortunately because I have to have heaters for my off grid batteries it was a big deal. I was relying on the generator as backup. I ended up getting different generator and that worked fine. Growatt also did not have a work around either. I had considered going through intermediate inverter chargers as well to fix the 65 hz issue but time was limited for me in terms of solving it. Eventually, I broke down to individual components in my system instead of one Growatt like system component, and I have no problems and a lot more flexibility

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

@@rickharold7884 lately I've been thinking that different component systems are better than these all-in-ones.. Probably better just getting one of the big victron solar controllers and another good pure sine wave inverter. More expensive but better in the long run probably. I'm really sorry to hear that my charging system is not even going to work properly if I was to plug my generator into the AC input. I didn't know anything about that until today. I might have made a different choice on what I bought had I have known. But this charger might be advantageous for many things anyway. Well I'm glad I saw the video

[@tylerb9808]

I wonder, are there plans for a 24V version? Yep, some of us are still sporting a 24v system. $399- not a bad price though. I paid $899 for my NocogeniusPro50 but it has a lot more features, but for pure raw charging, this unit should rock! 100 amps? Whew! Hope those cables are 2awg or better?

[@WillProwse]

Every distributor I know, and myself, is moving away from 24V as fast as possible. 48V is superior

[@tylerb9808]

@WillProwse yea yea.. I know! I've been seeing the shift. It's inevitable, I get it. But man!! I've got a great 24v setup based mostly around your videos from way back! I've even recently added components to L2 charge my Leaf! So I'm 24v for at least the next 5 yrs or so.

[@danh2716]

Is that just for NA power grid, or does it accept 50hz/European grid output too? That would be great for sailing cruisers. Most boats are either setup for 60hz or 50hz shore power, so cruisers can struggle when in port after crossing oceans. Something like that would allow them to just plug-in at a marina and charge their battery bank directly then live off their inverter, without having to worry about all their AC components on the boat.

[@dagwood1327]

Tesla’s Cybertruck will be in production soon. Just hang on. Funniest statement… “This is what my ancestors used”😊

[@region-7]

WILL!!! Stop conviencing me to buy this! I am heading to the site now.... LOL!