NEW 5.0 META | Alethonym + Indebted Kindness + Bitter/Sweet + Solipsism(SES)

[@iamthewerebear4837]

I somehow managed to score that bitter/sweet roll on day one. Hasnt left my heavy slot since.

[@northsidechase]

same here, been waiting for a video like this to tell me how to pull this off (im bad at the game)

[@yourbrojohno]

Bro fr just gonna sit back for the rest of the season.

[@Twist-kj2fb]

I’ve gotten 20+ not even one dropped w bait & switch 👎

[@prismaticheat8186]

Same. I'm pretty sure it's a curated roll, so onslaught helped alot

[@griqs]

What's the roll?

[@atsukana1704]

Such a well rounded build too. The build has infinite ammo and an ad and elite clearing monster in the rocket sidearm (which uses very little ammo in the entire rotation, enabling usage throughout an encounter) And very little of this requires anything from your abilties to be changed either, making the neutral fairly solid.

[@yourbrojohno]

Since you somehow have the roll, pls try ex diris with this and then either autoloading vorpal mountaintop or chillclip envious arsenal liturgy.

[@whoneedbag5264]

I got u

[@chinbusy6336]

I final got this Envious Arsenal + Bait/Switch roll to drop. But I already have the VS Chill Inhibitor... guess I can use it during arc surges for GM. Great DPS video and new sub. 🍻

[@bitorange5549]

You know... I remember the days when we doubted chicken would make it past 4 mil glitchless.... times have changed

[@badmaw8084]

Would swapping to Sanguine Alchemy during the Nova Bomb animation have any effect with the new 10% additional dmg with the marked target system?

[@Phantom_35]

probably but i wonder if edge would work better with nova and sanguine since nova gets that 4x surge

[@samspin429]

​@@Phantom_35If swapping super doesn't drain transcendance you could set up a loadout with stormtrance and Sanguine equipped and swap after the nova goes off

[@maka134679]

Only applies to Well's caster

[@Phantom_35]

@@samspin429 swapping super drains all abilities and transcendence :(

[@Phantom_35]

@@maka134679 counts for rifts asw

[@JustDive808]

Would witherhoard work instead of alethonym?

[@Unforgivenn]

The Vespers host stasis GL can get the same role but now you’re taking advantage of the stasis exotic primary GL too. Plus rapid fires are better now as well.

[@jamesl9174]

I’m curious about if two DoT weapons can continuously proc envious arsenal, say lost signal and a scorching ergo sum, idk what else does DoT off the top of my head

[@gengarclefairy3475]

Yes they can and it’s hilarious use it before it gets nerfed (also Osteo Striga has the longest DoT)

[@stereo.]

if you enhance the gl weaken artifact mod and stall long enough you can give it auto loading :)

[@Zino7399]

Should try prospector

[@taylerphoenix9388]

Star eater, with the one that gives you 4x surge after using super on titan with t crash, witherhoars and the rest of this setup should be fairly strong right?

[@YashendraShuklaTheOG]

Hold your horses friendos, this rotation hasn't even entered its final form. Vesper has a Rapid GL with Envious Arse and BnS making it the best GL in the game now as Rapids have ~10% higher DPS. Also, don't forget you can run Alethonym for neutral game, spawn a special before damage with it, and swap to Witherhoard for slightly higher DPS :)

[@henryzelman4541]

Isn’t the new one from the dungeon also stasis making alethonym also benefit from triple stasis surge?

[@jeffmeyer6820]

You'd do tons more damage with sanguine alchemy

[@PsychicCatTCG]

Wouldn’t witherhoard be better?

[@duncanhawk4500]

Yeah it should it does like 3x the damage but he probably wanted to show it off

[@shroombi]

it is better, but i think alethonym is way better for the neutral game

[@Kdjrodjr9]

Welp having primary ammo and free ammo is nice

[@yourbrojohno]

​"3x the dmg"​ @@duncanhawk4500 at most 300k more. Wither hoard does do 3x the DMG of alethonym, but that is not the main source of smh here. Actually wait, without having to manually reload, you'd be able to fire 2 shots of rocket sidearm.

[@duncanhawk4500]

@yourbrojohno I didn't know the exact numbers thanks and yeah the auto loading would be nice so as long as you don't mind the special ammo juggle it would be better

[@thegymteachersgrandma]

what about the wellock senguine swap to prismatic roation?

[@howhow-y4m]

nerfing autoload & reconstruct then release a new perk basically functions as old autoload & reconstruct. Good job Bungie. seens like the KPI is never emough. skull

[@nenzonenzo]

Is indebted kindness replaceable with any rocket sidearm ?

[@Vahloksavjul]

Yeah it’s just the arc synergy I imagine

[@life-destiny1196]

Does this also work with Witherhoard? Asking for a friend

[@gengarclefairy3475]

Yes even better actually DoT weapons break the new perk use it before it’s nerfed

[@irunthepeg]

GOOD GOD what a meta

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

Wait for envious arsenal you don't need to cycle through all three weapons?

[@Lobotomy_cat]

You need to get damage from the other 2, so any dot from a weapon counts

[@ferdog5057]

The primary gl has a dot so it counts as it's damage during the bittersweet mag dump

[@hellothere-fp6rw]

You do, but the stasis gl does dot damage, so it procs its part of envious arsenal. Witherhoard would do the same thing

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

@@hellothere-fp6rw whaaaat

[@arius19]

auto loading mountaintop?

[@yourbrojohno]

Wouldn't this be the same but like 200k higher with witherhoard? Or does that interfere with BNS reproc?

[@magpet.]

alethonym is for the artifact perk that makes breech gl weaken enemies

[@sushiritos1998]

@@magpet.I mean isn’t wither hoard a breach gl?

[@ZhaloSupercell1]

@@magpet. witherhoard is a breach gl

[@bbagginsmcswaggins]

technically yes, but this also gives -ammo printing -primary weapon (since rocket sidearm ammo reserves got hit hard) i know usually chicken videos are only using the most optimized dps with no thought to neutral game, but this one honestly looks pretty good in neutral gameplay too and i appreciate that

[@sloweg3113]

Day 0 of Dragon's Breath + YAS

[@DaRealXotic]

Why? Dbs ignitions don't count do they?

[@floee7949]

Sadly, this would not be good together due to how scorch and ignitions attribute their source. Basically, it's all dependent on where the first scorch of stack comes from. YAS needs you to be dealing ability damage in order for it to get refunded energy. This comes in four ways- your throwing knives, your super, your ignitions, and scorch. However, the last two are more complicated since the type of damage they deal is based on the first scorch stack applied to a target. If I shoot a dragon's breath rocket into a boss, then throw a fan of knives, this would theoretically (if not for scorch sourcing) give me a whole grenade back- 1/3 for my knives, 1/3 for the scorch of the knives, and 1/3 for the ignition. However, since the first stack of scorch was caused by Dragon's Breath, both the scorch damage and the subsequent ignition are considered as weapon damage, not ability damage. Instead of a whole grenade, we would only get back 1/3 of a grenade. However, if we flip the order (knives THEN rocket), we'd get a full grenade- 1/3 from knives, 1/3 from scorch (since it's ability damage), and 1/3 from the ignition (since the scorch was considered ability damage)

[@Hira-lit]

what's YAS

[@bullseyeguy3786]

Young Ahamkara’s Spine Hunter exotic arms

[@vince134]

@@floee7949the goat for explaining

[@bradpoynter1776]

Thats hawt

[@ergos1422]

I wonder how would a wicked sister the call and fighting lion would do in the same scenario, since it would be possible to switch between energy weapons without worrying about ammo while out of damage phase

[@skully131]

Try some dps with prospector, it's actually somewhat viable now.

[@Dylanian777]

Pretty sure good rolled legendaries outpace it

[@skully131]

@@Dylanian777 Oh definitely but me and my friends were using it on the warlord's ruin final boss and we killed it in one phase (all the platforms)

[@holyknightamax4833]

Jesus

[@glitchmob1497]

Did… did he just shoot away from Calus?…

[@HaTeRonGB]

Yes he did 😂

[@dorianvaughn4241]

Too bad Alethonym is disabled for the dungeon

[@Ty-wf6mg]

After the final shape destiny just isn’t it anymore.

[@Hira-lit]

yap

[@celsonjunior9376]

wdym? after 10 hours of gameplay you can still gain nothing and feel the dread that has always been hidden in plain sight that is dealing w other people or trying a lot but getting no results to farm something you definitely dont need but want cus its locked behind a 6players activity or just plainly boring to solo that will most definitely get replaced in the next new big thing they launch, just like it always has been, truly magnificent

[@tiagonicolodi2237]

​@@celsonjunior9376 the saddest truth

[@gengarclefairy3475]

@@Ty-wf6mg it sucks but if the game had 0 power creep then no one would even play after getting the 3 weapons they want the most