a brief accuracy test between my old 6.5 x 55 Swede and my 6.5 Creedmoor at 100 yards.
Пікірлер: 150
@F15ElectricEagle2 жыл бұрын
My 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser is the reason why I never jumped on the 6.5 Creedmoor bandwagon.
@kurtglo Жыл бұрын
That's funny! My Creedmore is the reason why I never jumped on the Swedish bandwagon.
@F15ElectricEagle Жыл бұрын
@@kurtglo - Yeah, so funny that people forgot to laugh. Bye!
@user-hy2xf8ke8w10 ай бұрын
Me too ! , my 1896 Swedish Mauser ( manufactured in 1911 , Carl Gustav ) is a tack driver ! Not to shabby for a rifle that is 112 years old !! 🤩
@mrjohnx39239 ай бұрын
I have 2 Guns in 6.5×55 mm
@ericvantassell68098 ай бұрын
@@F15ElectricEagle lots of people laughed Elmer
@ed50423 жыл бұрын
great video, I have been shooting my sporterized Swede since 92. I had found that the PPU 139sp and especially the 144 PMC FMJ would consistently provide 1/2 moa at 200 yards. After endless and continual research,( I had found an article in a field and stream? many years ago where a writer took out his 7mm rem mag, 6.5x55 and 270 for a test. 100 yards a shade over moa for three round groups , however, he found that the groups 'shrunk' at 200 yards. Interpretation, due to the high BC /longer bullet the bullet's gyro rotation 'goes to sleep' beyond the 100 yard mark providing sub moa at the 200 range and beyond). My sporter swede with the twist rate for the 156 would provide 1.25-1.5 at 100 yards. I have yet to have someone shoot it off sandbags; they have to know how to shoot, not acquire sub moa groups at 200. Off of makeshift sandbags and the original two stage military trigger. 1908 action, Swedes probably put a new barrel on it Way before it made it to the US. And No I did not chop down a Swede, thank heavens. I really love sitting next to my buddy with a 'FIX' rifle, match 6.5 creed moor with his ridiculously expensive ZEISS extreme range scope shoot the same groups as my drop in stock european walnut original swede action, trigger and barrel. Heaven knows how many rounds that barrel has thru it before I got it.
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
That is really interesting, thank you very much for that comment I'm going to give it a try next time I'm at my range. I think that the 6.5 Creedmoor is overrated; the 6.5x55 was ahead of its time, over looked and underrated. I also would appreciate it if you would copy and paste your comment on another video that I made, titled, - "why is the 6.5 creedmoor so popular? I got a lot of hate comments on that video just for questioning the "Almighty Creedmoor" and stating that I didn't think it was a superior hunting cartridge to many others. This is a link to that videokzbin.info/www/bejne/q3vLh4GKZbSJrtk Thanks again for your comment and watching.
@ed50423 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHEN I THROW IN THE 6.5 GRENDEL FOR THIS VIDEO................
@shockwave6213 Жыл бұрын
There's a similar phenomenon in the archery world, particularly in traditional archery. Its called the Archer's Paradox.
@larryclark9380 Жыл бұрын
Heard a Finn call the Creedmore a “Cost more.” 😅
@Wheelchair-bear8 ай бұрын
"Cost more", " Needs More",
@corporalpunish6089 Жыл бұрын
My first deer rifle was in this caliber, and it is still my favorite. When I talked to people about this caliber, they think it is obscure and you will never find ammo. It has been quite the opposite during the ammo shortage. Since this is a European military caliber, you can find lots of S&B, Privi Partisan, and Norma ammo out there for
@lonniemerscham5013 Жыл бұрын
ssshhhhhh dood
@user-hy2xf8ke8w10 ай бұрын
Sako 6.5x55 for me , its so smooth and such a beautiful rifle, low recoil and a tack driver !
@Wheelchair-bear10 ай бұрын
Sako = the G.O.A.T. in a cartridge that has lasted 130 years and still very effective.
@NorwegianViking864 ай бұрын
I have never used or will use anything else than the Swede. Great video
@Wheelchair-bear4 ай бұрын
Thanks and good choice, do you shoot a newer model rifle?
@NorwegianViking864 ай бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear No. I actually bought an old (German) Mauser that was bought and upgraded by Husqvarna from an old friend when his grandpa died. Have upgraded the wood with a stock from the guy who make all the wood for the Norwegian National team. I will by a newer model this year, juat need a new shotgun first😅
@Wheelchair-bear4 ай бұрын
@@NorwegianViking86 Sounds like a nice classic, the 6.5x55 was a revolutionary cartridge, 80 years ahead of its time. The model 96 has a fast twist rate, it can accept up to 147 grain high B.C. bullets. What kind of shotgun are you looking for?
@rancidpitts82434 ай бұрын
I have two rifles barreled for the Swede. One is a M96 with a 22 inch barrel. the other is a Brazilian M98 with an after market 24 inch barrel. I hand load for both as each has its own taste. I load to similar velocities, and get similar results. I found no need for the new 6.5's. I am pleased with what I have. If you need the new 6.5's, go ahead.
@mikeellis83942 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I picked up a Ruger Hawkeye Safari in 6.5x55. I placed a Leupold VX-5HD, 3-15x44 on top. We shot it with 140gr bullet and sent the data to Leupold for the adjustment. This particular rifle has 1:8 twist. I bought it because I really like the factory Ruger iron sights. Without question the most accurate rifle I have ever owed. I’ve only shot it at 200 yards but after reading and watching videos it appears it will reach out to 1000 yards. I just can’t find a place to shoot it at that range.
@thatsenough777 Жыл бұрын
Look up on YT, " mark and Sam after work" he shoots the Swede out to over. 2000 yards with open sights. Guy can really shoot, and 6.5x55 is my favourite. Aussie
@robertpetersson565514 күн бұрын
Try to find one in 9.3x62 also. The perfekt pair. Greetings from Sweden.
@smokedbrisket30332 жыл бұрын
I have a T3X in 6.5x55 SE. It is lights out with 143 gr ELD-X and 160 gr Woodleigh PP. I had my daughter shooting out to 400 yards, with some fairly regular gong hits and ELD-X. She's just an inexperienced shooter so doesn't do Kentucky windage (elevation in this case) very well. At 300 yards, she didn't have but 1 miss out of 12 or 15 shots fired, 6" gong.
@TheIrishd501 Жыл бұрын
I have that same rifle and with handloads using either 129 grain Hornady SST's or 130 grain Nosler Accubond's it is sub MOA all day long at 100 yards (Longest we can shoot at the public range on Oahu) and usually ends up with one ragged hole. The Tikka is an incredibly accurate rifle.
@ed5042 Жыл бұрын
I had picked up the T3x hunter swede a while ago. Ran to the range with a bunch of different factory ammo. The Fiocchi 142, .5 moa, as long as the MV stayed above 2600 it was an moa shooter. Did not like slow remington or Federal factory. PPU 139 about 1.5 groups out of this rifle
@georgeb83288 ай бұрын
From what I understand about the 6.5x55 it has an excellent ballistic coefficient that prevents it from being affected by wind as much as other rounds.
@smokedbrisket30338 ай бұрын
@@georgeb8328 6.5CM and 6.5x55 both fire the exact same bullets, and at more or less the same velocity. I can shoot a Hornady 143 gr ELD-X out of either, at roughly 2650 fps MV. That bullet will buck the wind to the same degree and have the same ballistic arc whether fired from the CM or the Swede.
@georgeb83288 ай бұрын
So the whole thing about the particular rifling twist they put in Swedish Mausers being more accurate at specific velocities is BS? @@smokedbrisket3033
@MA-lq6eb3 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR SHARING...BEAUTIFUL 100 YR OLD RIFLE BTW!👌😎
@gringostarr692 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting my grandfathers old hunting rifle (Valmet Leijona) with over 6,5 x 55mm and under 12/70 barrels. It's a really good gun and a straight shooter. Havent't tried big game (moose, deer etc) with it, cause not confident enough with iron sights to do so and you only have that one bullet (which is plenty enough when you know what you are doing). But I think it would be stupid of me to try.. Maybe I'll find some old Carl Gustaf rifle one day for moose hunting. My friends here in Finland all say that nothing beats creedmoor, but older cartridges still have their place in my opinion. Good compare video between those two, thank you!
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a very interesting gun and one to hang on to. In my opinion the 6.5 Creedmoor is adequate for deer and an accurate round but there are many superior. The 2 new cartridges that also have, " heavy for caliber bullets"; the 6.5 PRC and the 6.8 Westerner show up the Creedmoor in everything but both have a little more recoil. Thanks for watching and your comment, I am going to look up your Grandfather's gun.
@AkuPuuhaa Жыл бұрын
Legendaarinen Leijona!
@puccini4530 Жыл бұрын
Shot .303 at school (and hated those bloody shoulder-busting things with their steel-capped butts). Fifty years into the sport. Thirty with a .308 and the last twenty with a Sako 6.5x55. That Sako is the best change I ever made. Guys hate to admit it, but flinching is the big enemy. The 6.5x55 is an absolute pussycat - no 'kick' to speak of - just a slow 'push'. The bullets go to where I point, although that part is slightly less predictable at my age. In twenty years I've never lost an animal, and I've never had a flier using store-bought rounds. I cannot recommend the 6.5x55 too highly, although I would suggest a modern action. Early 20th Cent. poor/working-class men in Britain were small and thin, and it was they who filled the lower rank lines of infantry. In the early 1900s the British War Office should have copied the Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55 instead of supplying the Lee Enfield .303 which many young/small/under-nourished men found too hot to handle. The Swede would have offered a more accurate rifle that the men would have been happy to shoot all day. As a sniper round, I suggest it would have been profoundly better than the .303.
@timnavarrette32742 жыл бұрын
Swed is the real way to go,, maybe the only way to go!!
@patrickgallagher43442 жыл бұрын
Not if you don’t hand load it’s not
@WheeledandWellArmed3 жыл бұрын
Nice shooting and great job covering all the details.
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and thanks for watching, I like your avatar.
@WheeledandWellArmed3 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear Being a quadriplegic without much hand strength I concentrate on triggers. Also carry options like, Sneaky Pete holsters.
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
@@WheeledandWellArmed I'll check out some of your video's, what level is your injury?
@WheeledandWellArmed3 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear I broke C6 and C7. I do not sweat. Luckily my left hand is 80% strength and right hand is 50%. I'm right handed and learned to shoot with both hands.
@MaximKovaliov Жыл бұрын
I have good rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 PRC, but I prefer 6.5x55 Swedish. There is something special about him, some kind of charisma that is difficult to explain.
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
I agree, my PRC and Creedmoor probably make a little tighter groups, but the old Sweed is not far behind. I like the cock on close, the wood & Steel, it's the most pleasant to shoot and it was my first 6.5.
@VCBird62 жыл бұрын
Sauer 100 XT 6.5x55 140 grain bthp over 45 grains IMR 4955 5 round clover leaf groups @ 100 yards The old Swede round is no joke!
@Creedbunman653 жыл бұрын
CZ-550 120 grain Nosler ballistic tip 45 grains IMR 4350. Sub moa 100 yards.
@tylarhaugan7908 Жыл бұрын
Tikka new t3x varmint with 24 inch 1 in 8 twist heavy barrel. In 6.5 swede is looking like good combo with hot loads
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
It would definitely be a tack driver, I have the Tikka heavy barrel varmint in a 204 Ruger, it's one of my best shooting guns, you don't want to be packing that thing around too far is the only problems
@georgeb83288 ай бұрын
Are you using an actual Swedish Mauser? The Swedish Mausers were known for having a particular barrel rifling twist that affected their accuracy positively.
@andrewrenwick64852 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting…. It would have been interesting to compare a modern swede rifle with the creedmoor….. a modern sako 85 for example. A 100 year old Mauser action can’t take the pressure modern chambers can, hence the SKAN designation in some reloading manuals…. With a new barrel and slightly higher pressure there would be minimal difference
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
Yes I would too, I have a friend with a Tikka in a 6.5 by 55 he can get half inch 5 shot groups at 100 with Premium Factory ammo. At least that's what he tells me, I tend to believe him
@freedomiseverything27673 жыл бұрын
6.5 creedmoor and 6.5x55 are amazing cartridges. And are incredibly accurate. 6.5x55 has been used for years in Europe to take moose their moose is only 100 pounds later than hours up in North America. 6.5 creedmoor and and manufacturer loadings is more powerful than 6.5x55. But if you hand load and you have a modern rifle because of the improved metallurgy you can get the 6.5x55 too higher velocities but this takes an expert reloader to do and should not be done by the layman.
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
I thought a 6.5 x 55 Ackley Improved would be great round, in a modern rifle.
@chrisp308 Жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear does that exist? because it should.
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
It's not in the P.O. Ackley book, so I guess not. The case capacity would probably be just slightly below the 6.5 PRC.
@jeffscuderi86622 жыл бұрын
Swede is the king
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
It is definitely the great great grandfather
@brianschmunk94903 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the results instead of watching someone shoot for 30 munites. good show
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, sorry I didn't have more Sweed ammo. All my O.A.L.'s on my re-loads were too long. I have now developed 3 different 6.5 x 55 loads that Shoot sub 1 MOA. I haven't put them through the chronogram yet, the book says 2670 - 2820 fps with 140's.
@toddjohnson271 Жыл бұрын
My 6.5 Swede is a pleasure to shoot. Recoil a child can handle. SO effective too!
@Brandenuzis Жыл бұрын
As someone who loves both my 6.5 creedmoor and 6.5 weatherby I’m sure 6.5x55 would be pretty good. Never lost a deer with both and then shoot amazing
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
Is your Weatherby the RPM or 6.5-300 ? , I had a 6.5-300 in a back country carbon fiber stock 5# rifle and the recoil was intense. The barrel had a small contour , it would heat up fast. The first 3 shots were sub MOA, then they would start to string. I am quite interested in the 6.5 RPM, a more modern and efficient cartridge.
@tufftrucker40 Жыл бұрын
I have a 6.5 cm a 6.5 prc and a6.5 swede all of them are terrific big game rounds and long distance shooting rounds but I'd give the edge of accuracy to the prc over both of the other rounds but all of them are fun and will do whatever it needs to do when it comes to hunting. The creedmoor and swede are much cheaper to shoot then the prc so I do shoot them more often but when it's time to hunt the prc is my go to for big game.
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
I also have a 6.5 PRC and agree with you. All 3 are accurate but my PRC is the most accurate also has more velocity/energy.
@afroliciouspresents36032 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Those are both great rounds, although the 6.5 Swede, because of its history, gets my vote. By the way, you said you shortened the old rifle by 6.5 inches? The optimum length for a 6.5×55 is 24", at a 1/8 twist, for a 140gr bullet. Shortening the barrel has upset the balance and needs to be considered, in terms of accuracy. The full length barrel would drill those bullets into a pretty little cluster. Just saying.
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
I bought that rifle used for $275 and it had a little bit of muzzleware probably from improper cleaning. It was 29 and a half inches long. It groups better now than it did with full length. It's pretty common for people to cut the model 96 down to 23 or 24 , I did get a little more velocity with the 29 and a half inch barrel. That Browning ab3 in 6.5 Creedmoor, has a 22 inch barrel and it shoots as well as any of my rifles with 24 or 26 in barrels.
@afroliciouspresents36032 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear Ah, ok! Sorry, my mistake. I thought the barrel length was 24". Jeez, imagine carrying a 29.5 inch barrelled rifle into war. Probably best that the Swedes stayed neutral, haha
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors8 ай бұрын
I have a 44 Husquvarna Swede, but rather than sporterizing it became a CG63. I'm working up a load that matches the moly-coated 140gn Federal, this is because I fell into 900 Lapua 139gn HPBT/Scenar bullets. But using the RWS JAKMATCH 100gn I'm ringing steel @ 650m/710yd. Will not be getting a Creed.
@Wheelchair-bear8 ай бұрын
Smart
@Re-Booter Жыл бұрын
I've got a Norwegian Krag from 1912, and a Swedish M38 from 1942 and a modern Tikka T3 in 6.5x55, fun rifles. The Tikka is the "meat" gun.......I've harvested 12+ deer with one shot, one kills. I favor this caliber in case nobody could tell?
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
It's no doubt a proven caliber, gaining popularity even with the new 6.5s coming out
@MaximKovaliov Жыл бұрын
My Tikka 6.5x55 "meat" gun to, 8 antelope, 3 buck and 2 black bear 💣👍. This season try Carl Gustaf sporting.
@tomjoseph14442 жыл бұрын
You do realize that the 96 Swedish Mausers had a leade cut for a 160 gr. round nose "pencil" bullet. The 140 gr. spitzer has a bit of a jump before engaging the rifling. When shooting my Swedes for accuracy, I load 140's long and single load them. My Schultz & Larson Mod 54 does not have that problem and run 140's fine.
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
I did not realize that thang you, I have been working on hand loads and extending max cartridge length, it is now consistently a sub 1 moa rifle. Maybe I can improve that some more with even less shorter seating depth.
@Alien300Blackout8 ай бұрын
Old European caliber rifles are just as good as the new American caliber guns amazing how hunters could harvest game at short distances long before these bean field rifles showed up
@cbsbass41422 жыл бұрын
Same gun and ammo for both would have been nice. I have a .260 Rem Savage that shoots well, and am thinking about getting a 6.5x55 barrel for another long action Stevens action I have. I wish more manufacturers offered 6.5x55 Swede instead of just replacing with Creedmoor.
@cbsbass41422 жыл бұрын
That Swede is a very nice looking rifle BTW.
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
@@cbsbass4142 Tikka chambers them both, probably Sako, ammo is also more difficult. I will re-load them both with the same charge and bullet and see what happens. The point of the video was to compare a one hundred year old rifle, in a 135 year old 6.5x55 chambering, (I paid $275 for); with a modern heavy barrel chassis rifle in the "overrated" 6.5 Creedmoor, (I paid $1300.00 for).
@cbsbass41422 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear Sure. Tikka has them. CZ did at least once. Ruger was chambering the M-77 Hawkeye Alaskan in 6.5 Swede too but You have to go through Lipseys. I just wish Ruger wouldn't do that.
@easttexan2933 Жыл бұрын
I shoot a sportorized M96 also. 1912 receiver date. she loves the federal 140gr sp and the nosler 140gr ab. 3 touching all day long.
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
That cartridge was certainly ahead of its time and Carl Gustav knew how to make guns that's for sure
@easttexan2933 Жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear absolutely !! mine has 4" cut off the barrel and recrowned, rear sight removed and barrel reblued. drilled and tapped, bolt reshaped in Win Mod 70 fashion, barrel swivel installed, and the most gorgeous piece of tiger stripped walnut you'll ever see for the stock. She's a looker and a shooter for sure. For glass, 4.5-14x42 Pentax. Great set up.
@patrick-ne1um2 жыл бұрын
102 and it’s preforming as a 1 moa rifle god damn
@cokdnlokd12388 ай бұрын
Carl Gustav Mauser in 6.5 Swede - WOW awesome. The other gun is a another gun even if it shoots okayl
@Wheelchair-bear8 ай бұрын
Exactly, the 6.5 Creedmoor is the least favorite of all my rifles, and I own a High-Piont carbine ;-)
@mikepatterson956010 ай бұрын
He doing the same thing everyone else does. If he wants to keep it fair take the barrel weight off the cremore. It controls the barrel vibration where it shoots better
@troymeredith95282 жыл бұрын
It goes alright for a rifle that’s 102year old.my dad has the same CG but a 1946 .
@Gunsgame1966 Жыл бұрын
I think this is pretty unfair your comparing a new gun to a 100 year old gun ! The Swedish is as good as it gets , I’d like a brand new Swedish put up against any new creedmoor any day think the tables would be turned if not no difference at all and for hunting purposes it won’t make a damn difference realistically! A brick thrown will kill if placed rite !
@jimparker7778 Жыл бұрын
Never understood a reason to improve the Swede 6.5mm. Not even an Ackley improved. The good old Swede gives us a game gun that's also an excellent paper puncher.
@thehashslaingingslasher3 жыл бұрын
I have a cz 557 carbine in the 6.5x55. Absolute nail driver.
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
I don't know anybody who owns a c z that they don't like, I'm trying to decide between a Winchester XPR and a CZ 527 in 223. You just helped make this decision a little easier, I'm going with that CZ laminate thumbhole stock in 223
@thehashslaingingslasher3 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear you'll be happy with it for sure. Cz makes fantastic rifles.
@thehashslaingingslasher2 жыл бұрын
@Donald Prairie same here that's my only gripe with it. Why they made it that small I have no idea. All they would've had to do is add a little tab on top.
@Gunsgame1966 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a obendorf 96 it shoots tighter groups then my .222 rem Mohawk and the Mohawk shoots a cloverleaf at 200yards off the bench so if that ain’t proof of accuracy I don’t know what is I hand load for both rifles
@p.r.80492 жыл бұрын
6.5 PRC is the way to go for substantially improved ballistics with great accuracy. 6.5 Creed is waste of time and money if you are not a competitive shooter and already have the Swede. IMHO, of course.
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the PRC is a far superior round.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJWuipeVpLKWpas
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
I made a video "A better 6.5" I took a pretty nice white tail with the 6.5 PRC last year, he was running away and I made a Texas heart shot, somehow it missed the guts, that's why I was very lucky. This is that video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJWuipeVpLKWpas
@handdockvarlden520111 ай бұрын
The accuracy would have been tighter if the original length of barrell were kept. That is because of the barrel twist. You always loose accuracy and speed if you change the original parameters.
@Wheelchair-bear11 ай бұрын
The 6.5 x 55 burns all the powder within a fairly short distance. At 28" it stops gaining velocity. The rifling at the muzzle was worn prior to shortening, it was grouping over 2"; I gained accuracy by shortening. Many people have done this with the model 96 The original 29 1/2 " barrel is unnecessary with modern loads, shortening doesn't change the twist rate. The 29 1/2" length was designed for 162 grain round nose bullets and faster powders of the late 1800's and early 1900's
@howarddeheer829510 ай бұрын
I'll stick with 6.5x55
@scottbuckley6578 Жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine took one of his M96 to his gun Smith and had the chamber reamed out to except a 6.5 ot 06 really nice rifle but you gotta make your own ammo
@Frog13799 Жыл бұрын
Swede all the way, US factory ammo is loaded to anemic standards to save old Krag rifles not to sure about the m96 as when I owned a 1899 Carl Gustav it enjoyed the 156gr Norma Oryx ammo and it was fairly warm. Only "advantage?" a creedmoor would give is a short action, reduced powder capacity and less than stellar performance with 160gr bullets. (The Swede is a hammer with these at bushveld ranges) I miss my old mauser, maybe I should invest in another one.
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
I rarely regret buying a gun, especially an old classic like the Mauser 96 or 98.
@toddjohnson271 Жыл бұрын
They just keep making new calibers which are slight variations of classics. Selling more hardware, and ammo.
@raimol.6406 Жыл бұрын
And what all Creedmore shooters should be aware of is that shooting and playing around with Creedmore will make ones nipples to grow large and balls tend to shrink, shoot something more manly like 6.5 Swede!
@lars2778 ай бұрын
I will never buy or shoot a Creedmoor cartridge, just because of Hornady's misleading fraudulent marketing.
@grandpadaveswoodworking89322 жыл бұрын
After achieving a head-shot on a coyote at 200 yards, I was sold on the 6.5x55 Swede! And, it was run through a 120 year old Mauser using just the iron sights!
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
Nice! It is a sweet round to shoot
@danielsailors66443 жыл бұрын
You are quite a good shooter. You should use a silencer on your rifles :-)
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
Suppressors are prohibited in Canada. That puts any firearm with a suppressor in the same category as a select fire sub machine gun.
@charlesdeans7239 Жыл бұрын
Change the trigger in the Swede to a timney trigger and see if it doesn't tighten your groups up against that new kid on the block. I'll stick with the Kimber of Oregon Carl Gustav conversion of a 1908 swedish mauser that is now an inch high at a hundred 3 shot group and can be covered with a dime. There is a reason Hitler and the German war machine never tried to invade sweden,and it was the 6.5 x 55 swedish mauser and every man and woman had one and knew how to use it. I'm sticking with the swede.
@charlesdeans7239 Жыл бұрын
Also,you may want to try some Hornady Custom ammo in 6.5 x55 or thier Superformance 6.5 x 55 round both of which are 140 grain ,may be a little pricey now but the performance is worth it.
@safakaswedishairgunforum-n14903 жыл бұрын
6,5 X55 swede is still a impressive version of the german mauser 8x57JS ammo
@larsnilsson87823 жыл бұрын
No it’s not.
@sbk1622 жыл бұрын
where did you get the scope rings and the mounts
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
www.scorpionoutdoors.com/products/tac30m-30mm-rings?variant=39314667110434 And Amazon, or other online stores
@eugenegress5896 Жыл бұрын
Most do not realise, the Swede still has the Edge over the Crede, in powder capacity, but not in a significant amount to give you any real world advantage. If a person is Trying to decide between the two, your better off to Go with a Crede, because of ammo availability, and higher velocity in Factory loads. If you reload, throw the suggestion in the garbage can. E.Arthur Brown, said he never saw an animal run off , after being hit with his 6.5 BRM ; equivalent to factory 6.5 Swede. He is Wrong, and he is Wrong about Medium Velocity Theroy, giving quickers kills. There is nothing magical about any caliber period! It's shot placement Cowboy!
@Off3er10 ай бұрын
And living in Sweden 6.5x55 is better because of its viability😅
@johantjorn4 ай бұрын
6.5x55 likes long barrels!
@Wheelchair-bear4 ай бұрын
The stiffer the barrel the more accurate it will be regardless up the chambering. I am getting under 1 moa groups now, I never did before with the 29 and a half inch barrel. My friend has a newer Tikka T3X in a 6.5 x 55 with a 22-inch barrel and it shoots lights out, also under 1 inch, 5 shot groups, at 100 yards
@ronaldmaranto368 Жыл бұрын
The creedmoor is just another copy of the 6.5 swede
@masonraley45853 жыл бұрын
It's so hard to find swede ammo, most all.of it is S&B
@chippyjohn13 жыл бұрын
S&B is good ammo. Stick to European brands, avoid the cheap quality us brands.
@ericvantassell68098 ай бұрын
Such a test is meaningless unless the rifles are identical except for the chambers and the components of the load are identical as far as possible (ex Lapua bullets & brass, powder giving same mv, and at least the same brand of primer) and same weather conditions for the test. Oh yeah those barrels should be from the same maker, same lot of steel and preferably produced consecutively
@Wheelchair-bear8 ай бұрын
So one can only make a comparison video between 2 nearly identical products? That's f****** retarded.
@fenwelder2474 Жыл бұрын
Different rifles /bullet weights/velocity/speed You might as well compare them to throwing stones.
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
So you can only compare 2 identical things? Of course they were different rifles and different ammo! How are you going to compare a 100 year army surplus gun with a modern Chassie rifle in a modern Cartridge Using identical everything?
@cokdnlokd12388 ай бұрын
just another gun
@louishenryjr.36822 жыл бұрын
We can't hear you
@Wheelchair-bear2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just you, I looked at all the other comments and nobody else mentioned it.
@raimol.6406 Жыл бұрын
Your accuracy test does not tell anything to anyone to determine which is more accurate. Different brands of ammo, etc. My Remington 700 Classic shoot one hole groups consistently with my handloads. All what Creedmore is, is a 260 Remington with mascara and lipstic. 6.5 Swede loaded to modern pressures is better than Creedmore
@Wheelchair-bear Жыл бұрын
You're right, next time I will compare my 6.5 Creedmoor Browning with my 6.5 Creedmoor Howa ACP with all the exact same ammo. Or maybe the point was that a $200, 100-year-old gun, chambered in 135-year-old cartridge; is comparable in accuracy and as suitable for hunting as a new Browning in the overrated but very popular 6.5 Creedmoor chambering.
@flyfishermannick36323 жыл бұрын
2 different rifles made a century apart with 2 different types of ammo....ya im sure that's a very scientific test.
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
Something tells me that you make more negative comments on other people's videos, then content of your own. What do you mean by 2 different types of ammo? Federal 140 grain soft point hunting rounds not close enough? The whole idea of the video was to compare a hundred + year-old gun, shooting a 120 + year old cartridge with a new modern rifle shooting a popular "modern cartridge"
@flyfishermannick36323 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear then call it that. Call it a comparison of two vastly different rifles and not 2 calibers. Comparing the calibers would need all other variables to be as close to the same as possible. And no, i dont make videos. But if thats how we judge character and knowledge in this day and age we are all doomed.
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
@@flyfishermannick3632 Okay.... That is a real catchy title, thanks for the suggestion. I would appreciate it if you could go back and watch every one of my videos and recommend proper title's. I also look forward to watching some of your content, its obviously much better than my videos with confusing titles.
@flyfishermannick36323 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear 😆😆😆 you are a sensitive one aint ya?
@Wheelchair-bear3 жыл бұрын
@@flyfishermannick3632 Maybe, but you are the only one to complain about this video because I didn't use identical rifles & cartridges. I will give you a full refund.
@georgewalker44818 ай бұрын
Not a very good video your explanations aren't very good
@Wheelchair-bear8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, The video was meant for people who know a little bit about cartridges and firearms, probably why you didn't like it or understand what I was saying
@georgewalker44818 ай бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear I understood exactly what you were saying I reload my own I didn't like your video and I know quite a bit about cartridges and firearms seems you don't know what you're talking about accusing me of that
@georgewalker44818 ай бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear in fact I've built three of my own guns so I know something about guns i