308 vs 6.5 creedmoor at 1000 yards!

[@americanpatriot477]

It’s more like comparing two rifles instead of the 6.5 and 308. What would be a better comparison is to use the same make and model of rifles in each caliber.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Oh really lmao

[@americanpatriot477]

@@Syxtus_outdoors oh yea really. If you want to compare the difference between two cartridges it’s best to use the same barrel length and same rifles to keep it about the cartridges not the rifles.

[@Ironpine27]

@@Syxtus_outdoors I second Patriot's comment. There's a reason precision shooters prefer after market chassis and pistol grips. Makes a noticeable difference.

[@WTF-vv8ic]

I agree with you 100%. I like my AK a lot more than I like my AR. I will tell you the 223 round is much better round that the 7.62. I have shown a few people the supremacy of the AK in an urban battlefield when I was teaching then how to shoot in Arizona. If you take an AR platform in 223 and compare it with the AR platform in the 7.62. The 223 will out perform the 7.62. If anyone reading this has any questions then I will answer it. If you ask a dumbass question you get a dumbass answer.

[@Altekameraden79]

Indeed, a proverbial "apples to oranges" comparison. As a staff engineer at NIST (National Institute of Standards & Technology) great pains and considerations to reduce equipment deviation is necessary to achieve five sigma results. I have an Accuracy International AE MKIII on its second barrel in .308 Win that groups almost identically as a friends Surgeon Scalpel in 6.5 Creedmoor.

[@jeremiahgazsi8579]

That deer walking into view of the target was PRICELESS!!!! Like Mother Nature calling "Dinner Delivery!" LOL

[@astang1072]

1st 6.5 just caught the right edge that was magically painted over when we saw the group. But you did group 5 after that. Just goes to show that no matter the round, skill at wind calling is critical for long range with any round.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Reading wind is everything.

[@RayGT-du6hj]

I thought the same thing lol

[@drumslinger]

Thought the same thing, what happened to the flyer?

[@derrickwoodberry7237]

Yeap it magically disappeared. So be fair about it. I guess that's y all of the extra shots were taken with the creedmore

[@BigDsae]

He took a shot with the 308 without the downrange camera set up nor the spotting scope. Without explanation it could be just reading wind before executing the group for each caliber. You notice in the audio and video of each group there is noticeable wind in the 6.5 group, where the 308 was dead quiet and still. If the first shot holding center is far right on the plate, 308 or 6.5 doesn't matter, it stands to reason why someone would make a scope adjustment or hold left so your group stands on the target. It was clear the 6.5 was drilling it even with the wind, which likely meant he was extremely lucky the wind helped the group or the wind was extremely consistent along with the rifle.

[@ghostfire319]

At about the 6:39 mark the first hit using 6.5 was noted to be on the far right aspect of the target approximately at the midpoint vertical axis. This was not measured at the end of the video and appeared to have been painted over. Why is that?

[@ghostfire319]

I apologize, I missed the comment where it was explained. Thank You

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

@@ghostfire319 yes it was a windage shot, wind has picked up quite a bit from shooting 308 series.

[@jamesingram465]

Saw that too

[@wolverine1694]

I have both 308 and 6.5 set up for long range... but I can't shoot with you brother.... that's about what I do at 6-700 yards... your sniper material

[@curve5746]

Your 308 is just inferior except with price per round. Admit it. Took me a while too. You'll come around lol

[@johnknouse8846]

I resisted the 6.5 creedmoor for several years. Gave in and got the Savage Axis II Precision, in the MDT chasis, last summer, and it’s an incredible rifle. Can’t believe the groups it will shoot. First time I took it to distance, it was consistently hitting an 8” plate at 1,000 yards.

[@johnganshow5536]

Savages are known for their accuracy, maybe it was more the rifle than the caliber...

[@timclaus8313]

@@johnganshow5536 I have both .243 and .308 Savage Axis models. Only change is an MCarbo lightweight sear spring to get the trigger weight down. Both are ridiculously accurate for hunting rifles. Both are more accurate than I am, lol...

[@darrensmall4313]

I'm starting to like the CM a little, being a 30 cal guy but I'm concerned it is a little light for elk if bone is hit. You can tell me all day long that accuracy counts, and it does, but should the wind pick up at distance it could throw off an accurate shot and now you may have a wounded elk running over the mountains into the next county.

[@johnholmes6897]

That deers reaction was hysterical ! ' wait, what that? It looks like that guy is shooting at this metal thing.. I'm outta here! '

[@gregorygraziano8787]

A deer and double rainbow. Looks like the start of a Disney movie.

[@APlife764]

Hahaha...nearly became the star of field and stream😅

[@pawlaq85]

your precision is just insane

[@jmad2328]

Nice video. Thank you. Pretty cool to see that Coriolis Effect in real time

[@fredeb67]

I would still take the .308 because I would never be able to shoot anything past 150 yards here in it southeast due to vegetation. .308 as we all know is easier to find and cheaper. If you target shoot to 1000 yards, 6.5 makes sense. Great video and excellent shooting.

[@PhongNguyen-nz9kz]

Crazy to see the arch.

[@menumlor9365]

People say 6.5 creed is better. Yes you’re right ballistic wise. I like 308 because I can afford to shoot 2 rounds for every 1 round of 6.5 creed. The amount of practice and repetition I get will transfer over to 6.5 creed.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

The cost $/round evens out when you get into reloading where components such as bullets powder etc are identical in price.

[@menumlor9365]

True, but the vast majority of people don’t reload.

[@BigDsae]

@@menumlor9365 factory prices are the nearly the same for premium ammo. 308 just has more affordable plinking ammo which is great for getting trigger time.

[@estebahngold7713]

6.5 creed eas perfected to be more efficient in its class ! It has to have 1/8 twist to stabilize the elongated 140 grain bullet so it can stabilize the round to reach its maximum potential .

[@JwallzMTB]

this a cool fact, thanks for sharing!

[@zfodge1]

In Arizona during the 90's I worked for the state corrections and was the number 1 sniper for the little prison in Globe/Miami. We got the 2nd hand Remington model 700 308 from the Phoenix prison as a hand me down as they got new weapons and later that year in mid Summer there was a state wide corrections tactical support unit (TSU) competition. Now I had shot guns as a kid in the 60's, 70's and up to the 90's but never in a competitive event. I came in second after having a miss fire. Told that was it and about 10 rounds later as me and my spotter are putting our weapons in the cave we are told they have been during the sniper shoot all wrong and we have another chance! So we run back up the hill. I'm using a winter army jacket for a ground pad. It's mid summer in Winslow, Arizona. The gravel of the gun range is Hot! Plus we are the bastard step child of the main prison of Phoenix. We get no money for new things we just make do. So my ground pads a winter jacket and my head cover is the same damn thing! And boy it's hot. Plus I'm going to shoot a cold barrel against hot. At the end of the day I came in 2nd with a shoot off at 100 yards at 1in squares for the best group. It was a choice of 3 boxes and they called which box to start shooting in 5 seconds or less. 5 rounds in 10 seconds. 1st place beat me by a hair. I mean that. A hair. Back then we had about 20 officers to choose for TSU. Phoenix had all most 70 for their team. We placed 2nd for our Shotgun Team also. I loved that 308. First time shooting it before the competition and after. I got a few now. Love the caliber.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Thanks for sharing your story it was an interesting read. 308 is sure a very capable and fun to shoot cartridge its still one of my favorites, with new vld and eld bullets it certainly got a new lease on life. Thanks for watching!

[@jerrynpatti]

what happened to the hit that hit on the right side of the target? I think you sprayed white paint on it to make the group smaller

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

It was dismissed as a first shot, i adjusted windage and shot additional 2 shot to compensate for that.

[@dougi1967]

It's like taking a bogey on the first hole....

[@elih6045]

This whole video was a waste of my time and sheer proof that you are a fan of the 6.5 as was stated rifles should have been apples to apples as well as ammo and to not state the first shot omision shows intent to hide it. I call BS.

[@MarkJ-zp6sy]

Love the mulligan! Great shooting

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

@@elih6045 u wasted more time by typing your stupid comment!

[@g.simard854]

You are a good shooter man ! Little jealous of your spot where I live I struggle to find long range open areas

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Thanks man, it's hard to find places to shoot for sure.

[@Shane-bx8ws]

That 6.5 was ringing beautifully. Loved the impact sound with it.

[@tristanwatkin2222]

Talented shooter but far from a fair comparison, a chassis with pistol grip and a muzzle brake on the 308 would make it a little fairer if not using two of the same rifles chambered in each calibre with similar loads would be an ideal comparison. A penetration comparison at this distance would yield a different opinion too.

[@tremmer2229]

Me thinks we have a Creedmoor hater in the house...

[@timclaus8313]

My take is that it reflects well on the accuracy of the 308 in a hunting rifle. Good shooting, no matter what.

[@jasonshink6589]

I think it reflects fake news

[@tanked9axesvaa262]

It’s not really fair to run a test against a 308 stock model with a precision 6.5 nor is it fair to use different types of ammo either. You want a fair comparison get 2 identical savage rifles in different calibers with the same brand and type of ammo and then you can call it fair

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Maybe do some reading on guns first before typing your comments.

[@kenbrown873]

@@Syxtus_outdoors The gun and round comparison is good, I think you could have put a better group down on the .308. You had more time and movement off of the gun the way you were reloading, I think had you stayed on the gun during reloads your very good .308 group would have been closer to the 6.5 group. Still great shooting though.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

@@kenbrown873 there was alot of unnecessary movement i agree, it has been corrected since i made the video, the 308 is still a great round for all types of shooting what really separates these two cartridges is vertical drop at longer ranges which wasn't mentioned in the video. At 1000 yards 6.5 has only 26 moa drop where 308 is at 33 so quite a substantial difference, 6.5 beats 308 in windage quite easily as well. Thanks for watching.

[@kenbrown873]

@@Syxtus_outdoors I agree both are great rounds, I have not shot much in recent years but I am looking to get back into shooting. My first thought was .308 and honestly didn't even consider anything else until I started looking into different gun manufactures and saw a lot of 6.5 being featured. Main reason I watched your video is I am heavily leaning toward the Tikka, I don't see many options as good for that price. My shooting past was .270 and .30 06, I love the .270.

[@Skilpadjie1]

The very first shot with Creedmore was on right side edge of plate. What happened to that when you measured.? The Creedmore also appears to be in a waty better chasis then the stock of the 308. Will also help with group size

[@luishernan2106]

Excellent video, images, info, sequences...100/100 !!! Thanks for share. Nice the 6.5 Creedmore performing

[@paybacksabitchFMJM]

that group with the 6.5 Creedmoor is exceptionally great.

[@patrickingram2098]

Except for that first shot on the far right side of the target that disappeared.

[@mikewilson5392]

@@patrickingram2098 read earlier- it was a windage shot since the wind had picked up between the two tests

[@joelh1950]

Almost Unbelievable exceptionally great !

[@donparker1823]

I really enjoyed this. I was timing the flight time of both. The .308 was an average of ~1.68 seconds. The 6.5mm was an average of ~ 1.4 seconds. I have a Savage model 12 with a boyds stock and a Vortex Diamondback scope. I'm just barely getting into hand loading as well. As a fairly new long distance shooter I was very impressed that you knew exactly what to dial in on your elevation for 1,000 yards. Looked like there was no wind that day. I was also really amused at that deer when it smelled something it didn't like. You probably could have had a decent kill shot with the Creedmore. I know it's too far but the accuracy was there. Great video. Thanks

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Don Parker thanks for watching i really appreciate your comment. Having precision rifle and hand loading definitely makes it more enjoyable to shoot and getting really tight groups in the process, the difference between customized load and factory ammo is quite obvious in accuracy especially at longer ranges. You were very close in your times for bullet flight for each calibers being off just by fractions of the second, very good observation im very impressed! As for deer in the picture it was spooked by mhbscent on the camera which was few feet away from the target, i didn't have tags so it wasn't possible to harvest it also being out of season and at 1000 yards wouldn't be 100% ethical to do so. There was slight wind during 308 series but has picked up drastically an hour later when 6.5 creedmoor was shot. Thanks for watching and good luck in your reloading experience!

[@donparker1823]

@@Syxtus_outdoors Question for you. Since I barely know what I'm doing, can I ask you what bullets and propellent you used for the 1,000 yard shots with the .308? I started doing this when practically nothing is available for reloads so i just got what what I could get. I'm using Hornady 150 gn SST bullets and Hornady 168 gr BTHP match bullets with IMR 4895 powder and Lapua brass. I'm loading the 168 gr bullets with 42 gn's of powder and the 150 gr bullets with 45.2 gr's of powder.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

@@donparker1823 for my 308 im running 168gr Sierra tmk with 42.9gr of varget and lapua brass its a target bullet, it shoots sub moa at 100 yards. Good luck.

[@steemerxaxon1643]

Deer was smelling where had been there & Also probably smelled the fresh paint as well

[@texasflood3165]

Wet paint..spooked it my guess

[@jasonwright285]

TBH the majority of those 6.5 CM shots fell within a 3-4 inch group, which is truly remarkable at 1,000 yds.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Its pretty amazing how accurate that 6.5cm tikka is, plus combined with stellar load it doesn't get much better than that. Thanks for watching!

[@curtis6554]

what happened to the first shot with the 6.5 ? it seems to have disappeared .

[@MarkJ-zp6sy]

Love the Tikka and amazed at your grouping!

[@chaseacklam6174]

First of all that was excellent shooting on both rifles. I wouldn't have called the 6.5 more accurate on this particular day because this comparison was totally unfair to the .308 - And because the video description calls this a 5 shot accuracy comparison of these calibers in general, I have to play devils advocate. The tikka has a superior trigger, a precision chassis, a muzzle brake, adjustable length of pull, adjustable comb, a real pistol grip, more appropriate ammo selection, and overall cost almost 3x as much as the savage. $2200 rifle VS an $800 rifle with a plastic field stock... A more fair ammo selection would have been the 130gr 6.5 bergers vs the 178gr .308 hornady ELD-Xs which are significantly more efficient at 1000 yards than the sierra 168s. The 6.5's group was not 6 inches. He painted over the first shot of the group, he fired 8 shots instead of 5 like the 308, and the 308 was all in one take, whereas the 6.5 was not. The video also cut right after 8:00, it could've been while waiting for better weather, it could have been nothing, but it was cut and the .308's clip was not. To me, with the painting of the first shot along with the difference of investment, this indicates a clear bias for the 6.5. Maybe if you make up the rules yourself you can say it was 6 inches, but in any competition that first shot would've counted. Measuring the pixel width of the .308 group on the screen and the pixel width of the 6.5's actual 5 shot group, they appeared 0.1 - 0.2 MOA of each other. Also, I don't own either of these calibers, so I don't have a bias or incentive to make one appear superior. I'm just giving credit where credit is due. I think it's only fair to compare two identical rifles using the most ballistically efficient ammo available for the task at hand for each caliber.

[@toddhebel6048]

You have valid points.

[@murkypuddle33]

chase, can you make your own video please. not trying to sound like a dick but i really want to see what you're talking about, I believe uyou.

[@jonathanwhitfield1104]

What happen to the first 6.5 round it looked to be at 4 o'clock. I personally like the. 308. Great video 📹

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

First shot out of the 6.5cm was off due to not accounting for the wind so i didn't include it and painted it over, thanks!

[@adamjensen8112]

Everything about this production is great. However, it would have been cool to use the audio for the hit from the far away camera so we could hear the delay from 1000 yards. The delayed "bong" from the steel is one of my favorite parts of long range videos

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

If you listen really carefully you can hear the delayed gong sound its about 1.5s after bullet hits the steel.

[@slatsgrobneck7515]

Do you watch MarkandSamafterwork? I counted 5 seconds flight time in a recent vid. And that was only around 2300 yards, he has longer range hits. Incredible.

[@adamjensen8112]

@@slatsgrobneck7515 yes, that is a wonderful channel

[@dannaomif1255]

Did you paint over the first hit from the 6.5 which was 3’oclock right edge?

[@justinpyle3415]

Thanks for the demonstration!

[@camonly849]

Dude that group is incredible. I would say that's probably a 4-5 inch group for sure. You had that one low and then put 4-5 in the same spot. That's incredible. My dad has the tac a1 too and I had a 3-3.5 inch group at 460. He's gotta bipod on it now. I wanna try to load it and see how I do then. Great shooting! Even the group with the .308 was spectacular. 1000 yards is a looooong way

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Thanks man that Tikka is an amazing rifle ive never shot anything more accurate than this.

[@camonly849]

@@Syxtus_outdoors me either! The action is just insane too!

[@painandsuffer]

You can see the bullet travel and the ripples of air in the bigger screen .. looks awesome

[@johnroberthanna1623]

I noted the 6.5 was a MUCH flatter round than the 308. Just watching the trajectory of the individual bullets in flight. That Tikka is the bomb. I had on in 308 and it was lights out.!!

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

6.5cm is about 250ft/s faster than 308 therefore flatter drop curve, Tikkas are amazingly accurate especially with handloads.

[@JackDanielVO]

Fine shooting. Best part of the video is that sunset. Thanks for a great vid.

[@tomickes409]

What happened to that first shot with the 6.5 CM far on the right edge ??? 6:28 ? compare to 8:35 ? but you can shoot ... nice work

[@mikeduplessis3433]

what about your 1st shot with the 6.5? almost off target, suddenly gone when closeby!!!!

[@lloydh777]

What happened to the first shot with the 6.5. did you take out your flyer on the edge to keep the group smaller?

[@travisbonnett491]

At 6:33 your first hit was at 3 O clock....why didn't you measure that shot when you measured your group? And why 8 shots? Did you throw 3 out and count the best 5?

[@moron12game]

Thanks for the video Coyote Whisperer, my buddy told me about the 6.5 Creedmoor for good first shooting caliber for hunting. On top of that, it even helps that we live in the same area so I know it works well in the Calgary area

[@itisfinishednowtimetoclean2723]

6.5 CM is also great for us females! I can handle 308, etc., but not all day long…. 6.5 “bring it”!!! Oh Yeah.

[@B_noJ]

@@itisfinishednowtimetoclean2723 like my wolf killing .243. Can shoot it all day, long range and shoot the second time if needed and still be on sight. 😉

[@marcusfunk2618]

Awesome shooting...watching you shoot the 6.5 made me giggle like a school girl...I loved it. Other than the chassis is the Tikka factory? I have a tikka varmint, Bone stock but haven't had it out that far yet...Id live to find some 130 bergers but all I have right now is 140 eldm and 143 eldxp

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Tikka is 100% stock what really makes difference there is handloads i don't think groups would as tight with factory ammo and Burger bullets are really great just getting them is another story ill be switching to Hornady 130gr eldms soon they seem to be available almost everywhere, glad you enjoyed the video and happy shooting!

[@alt9741]

It's ok to have a favorite. Also, I think the Berger bullets are superior to the sierra match king bullets. Personally, I'd love to have a creedmore but since i already have everything to handload 308 and a pretty decent Ruger 308, I can't justify spending the extra cash for the creed. Nice to see a good video, love the bullet trace.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Thanks for watching!👍

[@thereloaderscloset9096]

Great shooting. I guess the first one that was almost off the target at 6.30 minute mark was your slighter for the 6.5. Still great shooting. I found the OTM 130gr box Berger ammo was producing sub MOA results at 1000 in my 6.5. Heck it was so good I just bought several boxes. I have the 6.5 rifle is the same as your 308.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Yes the first shot from 6.5 was a windage shot, those 130gr otms are amazing, thanks for watching and happy shooting.

[@socrates5573]

Shoulda both use match barrel, BTW, how can you compare Savage to Tikka?

[@austingudmunson7657]

I have a savage 10t-sr in 6.5cm and it shoots a smaller group that the tikka lol

[@galesams4205]

WEe used the M-14 in 7.62 x 51mm in vietnam with star light scope. Very deadly weapon at night time. 69th armor 4th div.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

I would really like to try one of these guns!

[@popitgood3456]

I couldn't imagine being doped in to a target at 1000 and see a deer walk up to the plate and not actually take that shot. you sir have great self control

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

If i pulled the trigger on that deer it probably wouldn't be on KZbin.

[@APlife764]

He never even mentioned the deer! Great self control and discipline

[@kenbrown873]

That would be easy to pass up, had some more growing to do.

[@kentuckywindage222]

This passes summer I had a 6, two 8, a large 12 walk out on the place my buddy and I shoot. Every time between 800 and 1000 yards. We had been practicing all year shooting clay pigeon's at these distances. Funny part is the 6 and 8's would just look around after the shots. Not the 12. None would run. Not even the does. Just mosey into the timber casually. We had to seize fire on the turkey picking around our targets. My buddy hunted I did not. He took 2 doe at 700 yards with his Christensen arms Ridgeline 300 W.M. I was practicing with a stock Savage m10 heavy barrel 308 & 175 SMK in Lapua brass and Savage stealth ba m10 6.5 creedmoor 147 ELDM in Lapua brass. The 308 is a tack driver. Really hard to believe what it has done, but some is recorded. Just got the 6.5 so still figuring it out and setting it up. So far I like the 6.5 creedmoor but I'm bald and shaven. So i can't grow a man bun.🤣😂

[@michaelisrael66]

Years ago i was working up some loads at the range and there were these 2 geese that hung around there. Well that day they kept walking past my target at 100 yards there heads dead on the bullseye, wouldent even have had to move the rifle. it was funny, l would wait for them to walk by and they weren't afraid of the shots, happend many times. Had a 36 power scope so got a good look at them. Didnt even think of shootin them .Fun day at the range.

[@josephbailey2926]

Anyone notice that the first 6.5 creedmoor shot was at 0/10 but that mark wasn’t visible in the up close measurements?

[@malJohann]

He really wanted the Criedmore to perform better, even covered up the impact with paint.

[@BigDsae]

@@malJohann don't be upset, a test shot is standard especially with the wind picking up where it was non-existent on the previous group. He also shot a test shot for 308 that wasn't recorded by the down range camera. 6.5 was drilling it even with the bit of wind, also maybe the 6.5 rifle is just a better shooter.

[@mattfields69]

Uh....... what happened to the first round with the 6.5. It barely hit the target, yet somehow was never recorded.

[@erichibbs5137]

At 6:30 you had a clear hit on the far right of the target, your first 6.5 shot. Although the Creedmoor shot more accurately, why did you cover up that shot and not measure it? Just in fairness, that shot should have been counted or at least discussed why you didn't. No offense, I definitely prefer the 6.5 over the .308 just felt it should be mentioned.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

The first shot out of the 6.5 was my windage shot, just to see where the wind was coming from in relation to my ballistic calculator. I have decided to paint it over since it really did not reflect true group size. The efficiency of 6.5 creedmoor is clearly evident at longer distances especially in wind, my favorite cartridge for sure!

[@erichibbs5137]

@@Syxtus_outdoors - makes perfect sense.

[@dogmandan79]

@@Syxtus_outdoors Ahhhh. Disregard my comments above. I'm up in the air on which caliber to move onto next, 308 or 6.5. My current coyote gun is a 6x45 but Im looking for change

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

@@dogmandan79 nothing wrong with your 6x45, i use 22-250 on coyotes, between 6.5 and 308 i think you'll find more people leaning towards 6.5

[@K-bob_45]

Coyote Whisperer did you take a wind shot with the 308?

[@shaunelijah2232]

Maybe I'm missing something here. But why would you use a medium speed 30cal .308 for a 1000+ Yard shot ???

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Why not, didn't look like it barley got there did it?

[@LANsolo12]

That volley!! nice shooting.. was out this weekend hitting a 10 inch plate at 500 yards with the 6.5c. Maybe a 5 inch drop. For center mass.

[@Greghastings-o7b]

That 6.5 grouping was gnarly.

[@liltoogood1]

Am I the only one that saw the first shot flier with the 6.5 that was spray painted over right before he measured?

[@livingeveryday777]

The 6.5 is a shooters round, the .308 is a hunters round (for the most part) And what about the first shot that was far right?

[@Mcchicken-fv7ln]

Very nice Shots How did u record the shots including the bullet Trace

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

It was filmed through a spotting scope with my phone. Thanks for watching!

[@Mcchicken-fv7ln]

@@Syxtus_outdoors thank you so much Can u Tell me which one?

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

@@Mcchicken-fv7ln its a Nikon prostaff 20x60x82

[@Mcchicken-fv7ln]

@@Syxtus_outdoors ❤️

[@j.haseli2291]

What happened with your first shoot with 6.5 creed ? First shoot you heat 3 o’clock? Review your camera.

[@DRay-or4tc]

Looked to be nearly ideal conditions. Good shooting!

[@jodyroper5105]

What happened to that first shot with 6.5 that was right edge, it magically disappeared when measuring?

[@jeffreygibbons6878]

Excellent shooting! Good video.

[@laopaolao2008]

😅😅😅 that deer is like " hell no" I'm not crossing that.😅

[@BradySzabo]

I love that camera and your shooting is great. Thanks for an awesome vid. Thumbs up.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed.

[@hclarke630]

Nice shooting dude, I only wish I have somewhere like that to practice.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Thanks, it feels really great to come out and shoot without being bothered by anyone.

[@MrBoosta]

Debating what I want to get a rifle in 308 or in 6.5? Tough decision just want something long range to practice long range shooting

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Definitely go with 6.5cm Less recoil and naturally more accurate

[@artilleriovervatør]

i am thinking of buying a henry long ranger, should i go for .308 20" or 6.5 creedmor 22"?

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

I would definitely go with 6.5cm if you never shot it before its an awesome cartridge really accurate with less recoil than 308.

[@rescueca89]

Why did you show two different patterns for the 6.5. You had a flyer to the far right and it was painted over close up

[@menumlor9432]

One of the few things that people don't tell you about 6.5 creed is that it burns out your barrel fast. About 4-6k rounds later. whereas the 308 win will last 20k rounds.

[@jeffmonson_666]

Didn’t realize that 🙌

[@afroliciouspresents3603]

Regardless of calibre, an 11" group at 1000 yards is excellent marksmanship. I guess, to be truly scientific about the test, it would be two tikkas, same model. Regarding the science behind this test, I know that Tikka/Sako test every single barrel for sub moa accuracy, before leaving the factory? Do Savage do this? Point is, if Savage test for moa accuracy and tikka test for sub moa, considering the rifles you have used in the video, it's a draw 🤔

[@PackLeader64]

ok... nice shooting! But between the 2 calibers and at that distance, which has the better penetration? I'm not going to speculate anything. Anyone have any data about that? thnx

[@sharkman5735]

Damn good shooting bud!!

[@Dubyatrader]

Awesome video. Thanks brother!

[@jamesjastrzebski1536]

Let’s just forget that first Creedmore hit. :)

[@Dontdothat5300]

Does anybody else immediately start measuring breaths when he pulls the video box with the target up? Autonomic response is funny 😃

[@kmichaelp4508]

Yep.

[@johntruesdale1612]

With the 6.5, what happened to the first shot that was at 3 close to edge of target. Was not visible when he shows him measuring. Hummmm

[@N.California]

Dude, you were throwing darts with that Creedmoor.

[@jamesrich566]

Was that a 24" barrel on the Savage ? I'm trying to decide between 6.5 and 308 on a new chassis right now . How do you think that 130 gr pill would do for Elk ? Good shooting .

[@bigmike716]

Great video brother!

[@tommybrannon]

To be a more effective comparison you should have shot from same rifle manufacturer, same bullet manufacturer try to keep everything as close to even as possible. Still the 6.5 will shoot flatter, but on the receiving end..the 308 has the power.

[@jlknapp505]

No question, the Creedmoor round is better at long ranges. As for the .308, the bullet isn't all that different from the 30-o6 I competed with back in 1963, and we used 165gr boattail bullets. Oh, and iron sights! Custom machined to a smaller aperture, but still iron sights. Rifles, match grade M1 Garand for the first few matches, then match grade M14s, the first time to my knowledge that the rifle was used in competition. We used Fr Riley KS ranges, and after a full day of shooting my right cheek was swollen and my shoulder was seriously bruised!

[@giggergigger1]

For me if it’s a choice of 6 mm up to 308 cal out to 600 yards I pick the 6.5 x 55 in 140 or 150 gr factory load , sweet shooting round , very similar ballistics to the creedmoor out to 600 yards

[@samhouston5217]

Great shooting. Thank you for the video. Love to see a comparison of the Creedmoor with the 300 WSM. They are pretty similar but you don't see to much about the WSM. (my fav). Was thinking about getting a Creedmoor but they are so similar and I have a 308 already. Not sure.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

6.5 cm is a great caliber, the vld bullets in it make a lot of difference down range and real pleasure to shoot, thanks for watching!

[@slatsgrobneck7515]

What is similar about the creedmore and the 300wsm? They both use powder, primer and a case?

[@samhouston5217]

@@slatsgrobneck7515 LOL I know the creedmoor is a lighter less energy less velocity round. N I love my 300WSM, but all the hub bub about the Creedmoor got me thinking maybe I should get one. LOL. Creedmoor for target I guess.

[@matty.f]

Love those vapor trails.

[@kellyrick4365]

Damn nice group on the 6.5.... I love mine so much I bought another LOL

[@bobcatsownthenight]

Good shooting tex

[@dylanproctor9635]

Hey bro, if want to shoot tighter groups load the gun with amount you want to shoot and focus on keep your boots, shoulder position, eyes, support hand all in the exact same spot. Single loading seems purist but your movement is a huge variable you can eliminate.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Loading 1 round at a time makes me focus alot more on aiming instead of rushing through a full mag of rounds but definitely eliminating extra movement like reaching and related to it body adjustment would make for more consistent shooting.

[@kentuckywindage222]

@@Syxtus_outdoors Still to this day, I have to remind myself to make sure the weapon is level. I have a bone stock older Savage M10 heavy barrel fluted in 308 Winchester with a Athlon Ares btr gen2 HD 4.5 x27x50 APLR4 reticle and a Burris 25 MOA base. Shooting 175gr matchking 45.5gr CFE223 in Lapua brass over CCI primers. Chronographed at 2760 fps. 46.0 grains is 2800. That's a little hot but it smoked a 6 inch target at 1000yrds a couple days ago. A buddy is always with me shooting a Christensen Arms Ridgeline 26inch carbon fiber barrel, aftermarket stock, Timmeny trigger set to a light breath and aftermarket muzzle break in 300 Win mag, Niteforce 5x37 and factory Norma 215 grain Bergers. He can spot his shots and it hits like Thors hammer at 1050, as far as we have at this time. Those Savage rifles will surprise people. Good shooting by the way. I have a Tikka in .243 and love it.

[@helli3088]

Everyone that keep their 5 shoot group @1000y under 6” can give hints,,, this is awesome shooting, one low four within 3”. Hats off.

[@jasonshink6589]

Toghter groups at 1000 moron? Yuur just as dumb as the guy making this fake video

[@slatsgrobneck7515]

Dylan, check out MarkandSamafterwork. In a recent vid, he was putting groups on a 6" x 6" plate at 1175 yards. And he shoots out to 5000 yards. Always loads single rounds.

[@sBentonfamily]

The 6.5 Creedmore was designed with bullets for longer range shooting. Recently attention has been given to .308 bullets to increase their BC. The Berger Juggernaut BC is .55. The Lapua 155 gr Scenar is a more efficient .308 bullet. Comparing the two calibers should be done with modern high BC bullets. The 6.5 undoubtably holds the edge but with modern high BC bullets, the .308 can work at 1000 yds negating the need for a new rifle. 1000 yds is also not a hunting distance, just a target distance.

[@memyselfandi2752]

Wonderful. The 6.5 had a right drift in first Salvo. Look from closer it wasn't there.

[@fredbartlett4394]

Something is messed up your first shot was at 3clock with the creedmoor ,and when u went up it was gone painted over,someone is kidding there self Lmao joke

[@mariomcallen720]

I love Wyoming... great job 👍👍

[@ricksnowden8408]

Why not same bullet weight and make, that is a comparison.

[@jimmyghersi]

Fantastic shooting!

[@2dResq]

Never did like any 168 Sierra on the 1000 yard line. Normally I use 168 Hornady 42.0 grains IMR4895. When the wind picks up, I switch over to Lake City M118 173 grain special ball. That group is the same as my 1-10 twist M1A Super Ultra Match with open sights.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

My 308 loves 168gr sierras and im just over 42gt of varget on that load it all depends on a gun.

[@murkypuddle33]

hahah i thought you were going to get some dinner there for a second, but I'm glad you let the doe get away. do you think you could have got her at 1000yds? Would she have had time to hear the shot and run before it got there?

[@o5245607]

Whose group is better, it goes to the guy who controls the spray paint can who wins. I suppose we're not supposed to believe our lying eyes either.

[@Bassboy123]

Nice groups 👌🏻

[@connerbrandl5103]

Though I agree with it should be the same rifle to compare shells, impressive none the less

[@jonathanechols9985]

I like to paint my targets red or yellow. Due to them blending it with snow during the winter.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

I have tried orange, yellow red and white is the most easily acquired at long range distances even in winter with no issues blending into the snow.

[@bryanlark2898]

Ignore the naysayers. I'd say good shooting. Most people would struggle to have that grouping at 500yds much less 1000. Thanks for posting! Keep it up and here's a suggestion: Make more videos like this one!

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Thanks, it definitely takes time to shoot tight groups at long distance and then you have all these whiners complaining about a single shot just blows my mind! Thanks for watching!👍

[@jasonshink6589]

Sure he didn't either

[@charlesludwig9173]

Most people would struggle but not any shooting in Master or High Master Class of NRA Long-Range Competition in essentially a prevailing wind condition. Virtually all of these shooters can keep all of their shots inside 10 inches at 1000 yards shooting with irons and sling support. It’s why the NRA had to produce a target with a smaller X-Ring to eliminate ties in F Class Competition where shooters shoot from rest and with optic.

[@chuckm4540]

Correction - 150 yards.

[@nickolaspeden5879]

Pretty awesome to see the vaper trail.

[@Troymead_13]

First of all, nice shooting, only thing other than painting over the windage shot that got me is comparing a 130gr 6.5 to a 168gr .308 isn’t exactly a fair comparison. You would expect the 6.5 with a .284 sections density to have a better BC than a 308 with a .262 sectional density. Somewhere around .488 on the 6.5 vs .450 on the .308. That said a 180gr .308 and a 130gr 6.5 have almost identical sectional density (both at .28) and would be a much more even comparison on how accurate the round is. The conclusion should be they are almost identical even at 1000 yards with less than 0.15 MOA elevation difference and only around 16 FPS difference.

[@Syxtus_outdoors]

Maybe you can show us how its done in your video!

[@BigDsae]

Sectional density doesn't matter when there's no wind to deflect which the 308 was shooting dead air. Sure it retains better velocity but good hand loads and good bullets can easily compensate and repeat drop, drift is the only variable it is disadvantaged in.

[@charlesludwig9173]

Here’s something that’s actually meaningful to a long range competitor, the 6.5, having almost twice the MOA wind constant of the 308, means the 6.5 has half the wind deflection from an un-countered full value 1 mph wind change. At 1000 yards it’s a 5 inch displacement vs. a 10 inch displacement. And, since the X-Ring on a 1000 yard target is 10 inches in diameter it means more X-Ring hits when shooting the 6.5 rather than when shooting a .308. Remarks are comparison of 140 grain 6.5 match round to 175 Grain .308 match round from 24 inch barrel, typical of semi autos brought to the long line.

[@baobo67]

Interesting and food for though. Bit sceptical of your figures so I am researching. Cheers

[@Wr3ckZ]

Cool video, amazing shots!