I was made aware that Elagatua himself already covered this game on his own channel, here's a plug! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n17Lo6t4pMenaqM
@Blizz31129 ай бұрын
Its fine to see different perspectives from people, Mangs ;-)
@turbo86289 ай бұрын
Classy move to include the link 👌
@Elagatua9 ай бұрын
ty for the plug! in my video, i cover this game in... excruciating detail and answer a lot of things that mangs mentioned, such as: - was the recon hit before the com tower capture a mistake? - grumbling about terrible luck rolls at 19:40 and 25:42 - did i expect the artillery positioning at 23:32? - much, much more so yeah if you want to get really really deep into the strategy at the risk of being bored, give it a watch, and thanks again to mangs for covering one of my games
@Elagatua9 ай бұрын
PS you should never, ever, copy anything i do in a live game because i do live games exclusively for memeing
@turbo86289 ай бұрын
For anyone wondering, i just watched the other video and despite it being commentary about the same match, the content is very different. Definitely worth a watch 👍
@IntrepidMercenary9 ай бұрын
That 1hp tank be like "I'll block the enemy, you guys remember my sacrifice!"
@iwantanswers9 ай бұрын
WITNESS ME
@derkatwork339 ай бұрын
@@iwantanswers 🤣
@IDESTROYER2369 ай бұрын
"I didn't hear no damn bell!"
@billytringuyen19 ай бұрын
his comrades proud of him
@KnownAsKenji9 ай бұрын
That was my strategy as the Sunderer bus in Planetside 2, constant distraction to the enemy, cheap unit, and in my case if I'm not answered every time I can Deploy and infantry flood.
@Zev959 ай бұрын
Okay but could he defeat THE LEGENDARY Chad, GrimGuy?
@Eldorriots9 ай бұрын
You mean the Legion of TheGrimGuy?
@malik7409 ай бұрын
Now that you mention it... what if he is Grimguy? Im not good enough to analyze their playstyles but it would explain how he manages to be so good with Grim if he is able to climb to the top as a 'newcomer'
@jblockminermc54019 ай бұрын
@@malik740it was confirmed that grim guy is an alt account from an already existing comp player (he’s just not telling whom he is for the mystery).
@beforelifewaschaos9 ай бұрын
@@jblockminermc5401Who confirmed that? 😄
@jblockminermc54019 ай бұрын
@@beforelifewaschaos ….Grim guy did. Mangs has already said this in a previous vid, idk how you missed it.
@wpt729fx9 ай бұрын
9:15: if you watch Elagatua's commentary, you will actually see that attacking before capturing the comm tower was deliberate. Reason was to have the option of finishing off the infantry with the infantry that a as capturing the comm tower. The recon's vision of the tank changed this idea.
@HanakkoLove9 ай бұрын
What I'm more interested in is seeing how long can they last at the top! Cuz whenever we see a new number 1, it always shakes up the top players to compete and fight harder, that's when it gets interesting
@zekenotech9 ай бұрын
In the lore, Jake and Jess are best friends since they are both tankers. They have special victory dialogue when they Dual Strike together cementing this. I mention this because its funny how often they fight eachother in Comp.
@Havlark9 ай бұрын
something that really interests me in AWBW as a starcraft player is that macro is capped by base count. in most RTS games you're able to adjust your macro by just building more production buildings, so throwing away units means something entirely different. where as in awbw youre hard set on your bases, so throwing away a unit or base skipping essentially reduces your macro
@Darkness54239 ай бұрын
Also for most it's easier to tell what is going on at all times, Starcraft high APM matches and an outsider isn't sure what their looking at besides constant multiple screen jumps.
@thebrazillianguytm21869 ай бұрын
This match was fun, the Comm Tower tatics was definetly good and well employed by Elagatua, can't wait to see more of this guy on the channel
@Gatitasecsii9 ай бұрын
Amazing game! Spoilers ahead: Still cheering for StarFlash, but Elagatua is definitely an incredible player. I also loved that the aggression only stopped at the very end when he secured the comm tower, because of how this map is set up, you don't usually need to pull back because reinforcements are equally far from either side. Also that weak tank block was supreme, especially with how Starflash fumbled it. I think I would've definitely pulled one unit back to deal with it. Another great thing about Elagatua is how he never, ever stopped threatening captures, and it paid off. Like I've been saying over and over, sacrificing a mid-to-late game infantry on a risky capture is never a bad thing; killing an infantry costs at least 2 attacks, sometimes 3! That's three unit turns that your opponent wasted, and on top of that, like we see in this game, those pesky bottom units kept pulling down some of StarFlash's army, therefore making his attacks much less threatening. All in all amazing plays!
@professorlemon43869 ай бұрын
Love the random Daganronpa music for this video
@growen64749 ай бұрын
9:12 Mangs Comtower moment indeed.
@ericd10229 ай бұрын
Elagatua putting on an absolute Clinic against starflash250 of all people. Very well played, i can see why he's been on such a meteoric rise.
@ryandugan91769 ай бұрын
Really cool that he sets tempo the way he does. His composition was just one step ahead the entire game.
@gideon22959 ай бұрын
I learn so much from those commentary matches. Its insane. Doesnt change that i am a very bad player bcuz i have a lack on patience.
@kennethpcc9 ай бұрын
just a lurker watching. Thanks for the commentary was fun to learn
@mimizdani81949 ай бұрын
Ngl, I love when you say get shalacked. I have no idea what is the translation but I know it means getting shalacked xD 😂
@LeviAuren9 ай бұрын
Mangs, I largely play advance wars with only two of my friends, and we find an unfortunate drought in 3-player maps and for me, a drought in the dynamics of a 3-player match. I would be super interested in some niche 3-player content. Maybe a tournament, mapping contest, strategy and theory videos for things like a free for all mixed base map, or how to build maps that don't incentivize turtling in these unique formats. I would love if you could direct me to such content or include this as an option in community polls or future content of yours.
@raulalonso24229 ай бұрын
I dont play 3-player maps. But a important element of maps with more of two player is the social one. Since is possible that two player team together mid mach agains the player that is winning. Personally i enjoy the diplomatic aspect a lot. But balance the Maps become tricky, especially for some COs. That say i think that the first turn advantage become lets important the more players you add since their own actions and feeling of danger agains other player become more important.
@NeatChill9 ай бұрын
on the surface, I think I understood why elagatua won, 3 or 4 three reasons: 1. Starflash didnt build many AA and also i'm not sure I agree with most of his power activations, a lot of mid turn means he didn't get the most out of them vs Ela 2. Ela was always threatening capture, vs starflash's pushes seemed to mostly be in counter to Elas, he'd get a lot of value but he didn't threaten many cities. Ela was constantly capping and putting pressure on the comm towers 3. chip value lead through really ingenious play, such as the tank blocking and repositioning. Gives small value but added up over the course of the game makes a big difference. 4. The perfect tech up to have 2-3 turns of uncontested neo was pretty great as a finishing blow.
@jaredcody68699 ай бұрын
Was a nice game to watch and so far one of the only ones I have watched at all. Thanks for sharing Mangs.
@monsterchief1179 ай бұрын
Many already pointed it out, but yeah, he attacked before capping the com tower to gauge what units were coming first. It is worth pointing out that this version of the map has the com towers neutral and not pre captured. The older version with the precapped towers left a lot of room for too much cheese in the early game, this version of the map is much better for actual tactics like what was shown well in this match.
@lpsp4429 ай бұрын
Love the nordic pronunciation throughout this excellent replay - eLAgaTUa has that classic Wally Walrus ring to it. As an Englishman my assumption for his name is "elaGAtua" (plus the tu pronounced as chu) but it seems that everyone has their own idea of how to say it.
@Rocky712_9 ай бұрын
I remember his/her name from other matches you or Deejus covered (can't remember) so I am bit surprised you didn't know him/her.
@derkatwork339 ай бұрын
Based on the current trend of video releases this year, we can extrapolate and assume we’ll get 182 Mangs videos this year. Things are looking up.
@JoseMoreno-gu2bf9 ай бұрын
😮 The Danganronpa music!!!
@ascrein52479 ай бұрын
Ah, I was wondering about whether you will cast one of this guys games one day. Its a great way to start 2024 for awbw. Elagatua seems to be an exclusive fog player like Nightmare of Heiankyou. At least for global league for now. Also lol Starflash, he was soon taken down after a week or two. He is still in top 5 in all three modes though. I wonder if he will be able to get his place back.
@manghariz22119 ай бұрын
I was surprised one day, When I casually just want to see how big SF rating is, and then I saw 1738 The highest MMR ever. It is surprising ngl. Props to Elagatua
@Dru_Stephan9 ай бұрын
Always painful to resign with a healthy Neo on the field.
@officedullard87229 ай бұрын
Some more AW content, yes! Always love to see it.
@LeonWarczak7 ай бұрын
According to Deejus, the correct pronunciation of the skilled newcomer's name facing Starflash250 is Oogoogala.
@VeyVox9 ай бұрын
Nice, Danganronpa soundtrack in the back!~
@mourka019 ай бұрын
Always a great day when advanced wars gets uploaded
@WiiTara9 ай бұрын
Not wanting to crap on Elagatuas play, but Mangs you mentioned several times in the beginning that it was very weird that StarFlash hasnt build Anti-Air on the northern front. Do you feel like StarFlash also played this match rather "badly" or is this just what you might think when you have no fog vision etc?
@matex22079 ай бұрын
starflash just played the game very bad.
@Elagatua9 ай бұрын
i don't think starflash was playing bad, i think he was gambling because he was trying to establish a board advantage by overwhelming me with tanks. starflash and i had played a game immediately before this game where i delayed getting air for a pretty long time in favor of spamming more tanks, so perhaps he thought i would do the same thing this game.
@WiiTara9 ай бұрын
@@Elagatua thank you for the insight and congrats to your win again :)
@lero48279 ай бұрын
Wow! Amazing we already have a new Nr.1 and it's new face. I didn't expect that will be getting a new Nr.1 so fast.
@MrunHide9 ай бұрын
Why is top the weak side for red? I would have said it's the opposite. Red has a factory and an airport on top as well as more space to maneuver because he is not funneled into a chocke by that pipe and he has a road leading to the middle. I suppose his factory is slightly further in the back compared to the top right side factory.
@Jello_Criminal4 ай бұрын
Two factories are always on the "strong" side. As good as airfields are they can't produce units that capture bases. Also your main force will always be mass land units. Until your economy booms you won't even produce air units and even toward the end you might see air units not being produced every turn depending on if they bought a neotank that turn or not 24:10 Meanwhile you will see factories produce units every turn with the rare exception in the start of the match if someone overspends for a big unit but that's rare. it didn't happen this match
@MrSuperpoder9 ай бұрын
That Danganronpa music smacks.
@alias99329 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to disapoint you mangs but you might be wrong here, maybe he initialy wanted to kill the infantry and put his infantry on the city to prevent a counter attack from and eventual tank, so he attacked first with recon, saw that he didn't need to bother because he could have first strike with his own tank, then decided to complete the com tower capture instead of securing the city. Or maybe he just misplayed, we'll never know.
@izanagi35219 ай бұрын
I am in agreement, it did look like he was planning to skip the com tower and kill the infantry and realize it wasnt needed.
@EclipseInfection7 ай бұрын
Hi Mangs ! What is the music you used at the start of the video ?
@AColdOneYT9 ай бұрын
He maybe able to beat the top ranked on the ladder. But how will he measure up to Grimm Guy's Haymaker?
@reubenbailey74919 ай бұрын
Oooo, Dagonronpa music!
@Bobby-ls4sk9 ай бұрын
I think elagatua wanted to be able to kill the infantery and park his tank on the city at 9:30, but changes his plans cause it may be his only chance to take the comtower
@FloraJoannaK9 ай бұрын
Elagatua sounds more Latin. Great match!
@TKHedgeHog9 ай бұрын
Wow Mangs i love your hoodie
@yourtime9 ай бұрын
oh wow, fellow hero academy player, could be legit. you should check some older hero academy vids, it is of course no AW, but it was quite nice too.
@hadoukenfighter9 ай бұрын
oh hey DR music, neat
@pawnquacker9 ай бұрын
GGWP! Congrats to Elagatua.
@HippieInHeart4 ай бұрын
Very nice to see such an even match, it was very unclear who would win until, like, day 19 or something. Kept things exciting.
@ajabacan18869 ай бұрын
he bodge the name. elagatua is capturing the city not the other way around. it happens on all of us though.
@napalmcannon25139 ай бұрын
A new challenger arrives!
@IDESTROYER2369 ай бұрын
Attacking before capping the comm tower? Must be Dangs at work.
@andrewmalm58459 ай бұрын
Maybe elagatua is voice of Akasha...
@andrewmalm58459 ай бұрын
Or GrimmGuy
@oof59929 ай бұрын
Danganronpa music based
@magicalcapi91489 ай бұрын
*elagatua, the ultimate advance, remember that name...*
@arc-sd8sk9 ай бұрын
a challenger approaches
@Hiya_Papaya9 ай бұрын
That danganronpa music was unexpected xD
@KongGig9 ай бұрын
Popcorn time
@josephgarcia82099 ай бұрын
Tell us how you climbed to 1184 MMR, Mangs! We want to hear the good (and the bad)
@Mangs13379 ай бұрын
I just used move planner lmao.
@randomperson97329 ай бұрын
Nice music choice
@Mattcbliliuos19 ай бұрын
19:55 how did he know to block thr antiair? He didnt have the knowledge, just. Astrong guess right?
@Alexand3ry9 ай бұрын
First, Starflash *needed* anti-air to respond to those copters, so it was coming. But secondly, it works to delay *whatever* Starflash was sending that way. It blocks the base build from reaching the front regardless.
@Mattcbliliuos19 ай бұрын
@@Alexand3ry figured thanks
@pierrec17049 ай бұрын
15:01 Why did he attack with a tank on road instead of attacking from the comm tower ? He get 0% defense from the road he could have use the extra 30% from the comm tower wright ?
@Elagatua9 ай бұрын
worried about potential artillery sneaking in to cover that tank, while i know there can't be an artillery covering the other tank because the inf was capping the city
@pierrec17049 ай бұрын
Ty for your answer, and great game btw.
@mrlucasftw429 ай бұрын
Whatever happened to Dangs!?
@Fernybun9 ай бұрын
Deejus put poison on his Pepsi *FIRE EMBLEM TRUST NO ONE*
@johnm92634 ай бұрын
I played against him just last week
@lordhawkeye9 ай бұрын
Elagatua is Grimm Guy's try hard account.
@whisper65349 ай бұрын
Up!
@dangfxn7719 ай бұрын
I hear Danganronpa music, I click like button
@RanieriBucket9 ай бұрын
Anyone know the name of the song playing in the intro?
@Mangs13379 ай бұрын
It's from Danganrompa. OST linked in the video description.
@Christian-wr4ge9 ай бұрын
What is this being played on?
@Jello_Criminal4 ай бұрын
KZbin
@lamarlatimore78029 ай бұрын
1738….🎶Yeah baby🎶
@PICADALOL9 ай бұрын
Amazing...
@chefgrigs9 ай бұрын
He’s secretly Feddy wap Yaaaaa Baby 1738
@nomen64269 ай бұрын
I hope Incugarch becomes #1 Again
@damie94129 ай бұрын
Nice
@korhol20659 ай бұрын
This is probably the case of someone who’s really really good, but prefers the casual setting vs the competitive setting
@Scrap_and_build_ourselves9 ай бұрын
E L G A T O
@Goldmask-lm2sy5 ай бұрын
maybe the guy uses AI for assistance hahaha
@clydefrosch9 ай бұрын
the newer the advance wars player, the more likely its just an ai
@lelieutenant73869 ай бұрын
it's like this meme: when people call you a bot in a fps vs in chess. I don't think a bot could beat the best players, it's a lot harder to code than chess.
@RedRenegadeBlast9 ай бұрын
With advance wars it's incredibly difficult to make an Ai at THIS level.
@DarkOrderSolDjango9 ай бұрын
Don't be ridiculous Mangs isn't an AI, he is an egg.
@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja9 ай бұрын
Can't be an AI with live matches and fog. At least yet. Though, if it has a full team of experienced chess codes behind it, unlike my AI, I guess it's possible. In standard though, even my one man made AI can beat me, if I use CO powers and it does not. If only I wasn't so depressed, I might be able to progess with it.
@art-games62309 ай бұрын
If someone makes an AI capable of doing this, that’s honestly even more impressive then this