New And Improved Nostradamus... It's Nuts - Beyond All Reason

this 8v8 match not only features some very talented players but also our very favorite innovator extraordinaire: NOSTRADAMUS
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[@TheDeathlyG]

Honestly, start to finish Nostradamus was commendable. His team crumpled to several great plays by the Blue team, but he almost single handedly kept players in the game, giving out constructors and eco, building units when the front line was collapsing and air support when it wasn't. I think it's pretty clear that Nostradamus is a high caliber player through and through. The decision making this game was honestly immaculate, even if it was cheeky by the end.

[@evilme73]

I found the opposite (both in this game, and in every lobby I've seen him in)... no tech for his air or sea player delaying them massively. Anti only for himself... and instead of making units to actually help his team, he just threw them a bone occasionally so he could try his meme. No hate on the guy, just feel like the compliments are misplaced... It's actually extremely selfish play.

[@laQwoter]

idk, I don't see such handovers ever so if he is selfish then everybody else is egomaniac@@evilme73

[@TheAceOverKings]

@@evilme73 To an extent I agree, but I think he just slept as eco player til about 30:30, then started throwing eco to his whole team. I think the scaling and minor help is way better than slowing the exponential burn too early. Frontlines held well enough, then Nos in the backline juiced everyone up and they won pretty handily. He did sell quite a few turbines to pink at 15:00 too to straighten out their after-attack eco.

[@Markty07]

Bro imagine having a strategy in a rts named after you... So cool

[@andrewgreeb916]

Dropping the biggest turret right on the enemy

[@BrightWorksTV]

BEEG GUN

[@Software.Engineer]

i see Nostradamus in the title, i click

[@BrightWorksTV]

A man of refined tastes :D

[@jons4917]

Nostradamus II : This time it's a Calamity!

[@BrightWorksTV]

Bigger, better, and more badass!

[@TheAceOverKings]

I loved 30:50, when Ender asked for a AFUS and Nostradamus just slots 2 AFUS and a bunch of converters to 3 diiferent players, throwing everyone else on his team (except apparently Trollosus, who I think had no BP anyway) into solid T3 eco. He still had half again left over than the next guy on the blue team too lol. Also 45:00 Troll: "we need air dominance for it to work" Nos: "not rly"

[@Ankh.of.Gaming]

Impressive play, further underlined if you understand the actual planning that must've gone into this. I'm sure Nostradamus calculated exactly how much metal and energy he needed in bank, how much build power needed to put up a Calamity in 20 seconds and to sustain it to close the deal. He also likely had backup options in case he couldn't pull it off, like transitioning into a T3 spam or becoming the eco of his entire team.

[@JushakF]

Honestly, from the few videos of him I've seen of him, I quite like Nostradamus's play. Not because of the shenanigans - I feel many games could've been won much faster by more conventional tactics - but because when he is preparing for his shenanigans he actually builds up his team by donating power generation, build power etc. Comparing to some other players I've seen highlighted in other channels, I like his style much more.

[@TheGreyshanks]

Well, regarding all the (justified) critizisms: Nostradamus in an artist, and artists are rarely team players.

[@F_Print]

Okay I did not expect Nostradamus to go for that, that was great! Dragons really aren't very good without air superiority huh, upward of 100k metal of them achieved absolutely nothing.

[@micastewart7209]

Absolutely disgusting play, I love it.

[@jiffyd22]

Incredible ending. And great casting by yourself. Looking forward to the next video!

[@and-for_GoD]

About tumbleweeds, yes they are powerful if the enemy doesn't know how to counter them. 5 or even less torpedo launchers can stop tumbleweeds. About 2 to 3 t2 torps can also do it if you have vision or 3 pin pointers. I was producing tumbleweeds late game like crazy and I couldn't pass my opponent's torps haha. That's how you learn I suppose.

[@TheLightLOD]

Tumbleweeds can be easy, but also very difficult to counter.. It mostly depends o how they're controlled because of how targetting works in BAR. Everytime a unit fires they aim at the location they expect their target to be at the time of projectile impact. You can see this whenever a unit fires at a moving enemy, the projectile doesn't move towards the enemy unit but in front of it with the intent of the enemy moving to the same position as it. But if you give your unit a new move order after the enemy fired, but before your unit gets hit they can dodge the attack as most projectiles do not chase their target. Thus a factory producing tumbleweeds will issues trying to destroy a torpedo launcher by simply setting its waypoint on the torpedo launcher, unless it's producing enough without causing chain reactions. After all, the path the tumbleweeds take will be pretty much predictably straight at towards the torpedo launcher. However, if we take a few tumbleweeds and micromanage them through a tightish zigzag pattern towards the torpedo launcher it might get confused and aim where our tumbleweed will never go, thus allowing the tumbleweed to close the distance by means of not getting hit. Or rather the torpedo launcher might aim where it thinks we're going, whilst we change our minds halfway. The big challenge with this is that players that don't micro the tumbleweeds may consider it a bad unit, whereas their opponents consider it easy to counter. Consequently they might get completely destroyed by micromanaged tumbleweeds from experienced players that magically dodge most of their torpedoes. You can sometimes see experienced players "wiggle" their commander back and forth in the hopes of enemy weapons failing to predict their location so they can live a few seconds longer on those last 2% of their hitpoints. Most of the time the tumbleweed is claimed at great against ships, not land targets... This is because navy and naval defenses use slow firing and moving torpedoes and depth charges, there is no great counter to it when your enemy micromanages them (commander laser doesn't do enough damage). Whereas on land we have rapid fire instant hit lasers, for razorbacks and splash damage weapons it's just another small spammed unit tat they can easily take down.

[@taesssi]

This ending was insane!

[@olegoleg258]

the nostradamus proxy calamity lmao

[@3komma141592653]

Impressive, but also with this kind of economy you can almost do anything. Instead of a calamity he could have gone for a forward T3 and crank out Juggs for example.

[@peachypietro9980]

that bit about the Mauser beach party, hilarious

[@Argonwolfproject]

Tower Offense 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@zacbeeler7731]

When the first time your in the brightworks is a game losing micro fail 6 minutes in :)

[@BrightWorksTV]

Oof! Sorry bout that! Happens to the best of em though! And as always feel free to send in a better example of your skills to the discord channel :)

[@zacbeeler7731]

no worries mate. I did :)@@BrightWorksTV

[@Sorain1]

If it had worked, it would have pealed them off the front line. It getting spotted is the risk you took.

[@RevokFarthis]

6:50 So, yeah, they traded 3 for 2, but ignore the metal reclaim for a second. That is such a big win for them, that just reclaiming them would be a waste. Yeah, they can get all that metal, or they could res those commanders. Red team wouldn't be out anything, they get spares that Blue now need to kill off too if they want to win, they can also distribute those to other players for more build options or just for a big early increase in build power. Meanwhile Blue lost everything they tried investing there.

[@lollawrence9482]

So epic! Congratulations on 3K. 🎉

[@zacharywood3182]

algo love

[@Tecnico3MecaluxMadrid]

That is love :D

[@Slyzor1]

What a creative way to win! Too bad it only works when the opponent backline is absolutely incompetent but still

[@everythingpapig3006]

5 commanders at once ......looks like meats back on the table

[@matejzajacik8496]

Good old Nostradamus at it again! :D

[@josh6386]

This kinda feels staged to be honest, so little fighers and ground AA lategame with high level players... the early nuclear bombers should have been a huge red flag making this strat impossible without bait.

[@serendipitydoctorxqy6122]

I really enjoy watching your videos, and have one request regarding your commentary. Instead of saying "we" to refer to the actions of a player you're focusing on, could you call out the players that you're referring to by name when you're talking about their economy or the tactical movements they're making or not making? It's somewhat confusing to hear you refer to things like "we've got X happening" when you're switching between all the different players in the game, and so the "we" changes from moment to moment.

[@BrightWorksTV]

Yep absolutely. A quirk of mine I slip into when I'm not thinking about it :) feedback much appreciated mate :)

[@n7nobodycats]

xamoguitar was annoying to watch, water side was invaded 2-3 times, and each time after it was barely fought off, the guy NEVER bothered putting up any sort of defenses to slow or fend off future attacks, if anything hes literalyl going to be the whole reason why they lose. that and the front liners. that hapetus person has barely done anything for the front line. kept an eye on it and almost nothing chagned, his base size has stayed tiny throughout the game, and the amount of troops at or pushing the front lines seemed to never happen. orange was wasting a bunch of time doing stupid stuff, shooting at a shielded base for over 10 minutes. when he could have been shooting at enemies light blue/dark blue on the front lines to weaken it for the frontline allies, but never did. didnt have to focus it for long just clear out some stuff. never did though. red was also quite annoying, he had a tiny bit of air, but it seemed to never increase?? toxic, idk what his job was tbh, seemed like he didnt do a whole lot.

[@aaronbeedle941]

I tried this strategy about a month ago, except it was to drop build turrets rather than beamers, allowing me to set up a firebsa almost instantly. Drop 20 build turrets on a hill near an enemy and you have insta-base. Sadly I'm somewhat new to the game, and landers aren't very intuitive to commad so the whole plan collapsed. Good to see these strategies are an option though.

[@NotSoCoolStoryBro]

Honestly, since your first stream with Nostradamus playing, I can't wait for another video with his name in the title.

[@n7nobodycats]

if only nostradamus had better teammates, or teammates that didnt leave the front completely open for like half the game.

[@smizmar8]

"Nostradamus going for "quite" a lot of build power" xD haha

[@stefaneastwood5979]

Hi can someone explain how to party up with a friend in BAR? We tried to work it out with the $party command but couldn't get it to work.

[@Xamoguitar]

$party gives you a link in the chat box (right part of the menu), click the link and it opens your browser to manage the parties

[@ChunkiRat]

Dont listen to the other guy im first and he’s second and im waaaay cooler and fuck that guy cause im first and not second and im super hot and really cool and also not second

[@BrightWorksTV]

You guys are gonna have to battle it out I'm not getting involved here

[@null_wizard]

1v1 BAR match to determine first status

[@MrPointness]

Nostradamus is to BAR what Florencio is to SC2 and I love him for it. I hope he sticks around for a while to keep on giving us treats like these.

[@BrightWorksTV]

Ohh man I couldn't have said it better myself

[@silvnylp3200]

Nostradamus has skill and he uses it to make the Game fun i love it.

[@lemur2839]

this is why i love this game holly cow

[@shanerooney7288]

Nostra-minimus maneuver. Dropping 3-5 turrets at a time

[@n7nobodycats]

nostradamus carrying the whole team to the win.

[@manumaster1990]

nice

[@AngeloidArtiSEA]

31:41 was just pure art :D like a elegant dance of "not today my friend"

[@Anubis7169]

Yep EMPs of the year

[@rasput1n6]

That was a wild defense!! Notice the AFUS didn't blow in any of the 3 or 4 times he got overrun with units. Incredible

[@and-for_GoD]

19 wind for the first 10 minutes is crazy lucky. Especially if you are completely on wind 😮

[@BrightWorksTV]

Yeah I couldn't help but notice that this eco strategy hinges entirely on wind not dying out on you lol

[@rasput1n6]

@@BrightWorksTV When you do wind, you dont pay atention to actual wind speed, you pay atention to the avegare wind speed. Yes there will Be moments where the wind is 1, and times where the wind is 19, but at the end of the Day if the average is 14.2, you are gonna get about 14.2 wind for each wind turbine. It all evens out, execpt maybe the early game when you're making workers

[@djtot731]

23:00 Bette if 4 crawlingbombs set in T1 transport und make kamikadzerun in to the enemy!

[@ZkratkaSepta]

Nostradamus? Nuts? ... Nutstradamus?

[@wahoo2]

Wooooo

[@Krzeszny95]

A good Marauder push should incorporate anti-air hovers or some other kind of anti-air

[@chrisgdawg]

Holy Moly at 46 min!

[@nocturnalverse5739]

Nostradamus is the BAR equivalent of Dark from SC2 or Florencio.

[@BrightWorksTV]

I absolutely agree

[@DutchFurnace]

Markivs is Mark 4's.

[@stop_3342]

Thanks for the streaming the game! However, sometimes u loose some interesting moment in the game like invasion of marauders at 29:00

[@BrightWorksTV]

Thanks for time-stamping it! Yeah I tend to lose them sometimes so thanks for helping others find it!

[@lordjammacus5431]

Nostradamus OP

[@miamesa8652]

I discovered nostradamus an hour before this video came out Perfect timing

[@Dooglet]

fyi: pronounce the turkish dudes name as "em-ray"

[@BrightWorksTV]

Really??? Wow I never would of guessed! Shows what I know! XD

[@Anubis7169]

Chef's kiss Grats on 3k subs!

[@lexlancelian8481]

imagine having fighterscreen in 44 min.....

[@danielbaker8370]

The nectar of innovation lol

[@evilme73]

Fun to watch nostradamus memes ending the game... but I still much prefer to see him on the enemy team than on my own. If he is your eco, your air and sea won't get t2, anti will be late, and will be selfish anti, only covering himself and not air player as well like it should.

[@vojteskaaaaaa6]

Its rip off supremme Commander

[@botmes4044]

First. Sweet