NEW AUDI RS6 vs OLD AUDI RS6 - Which is REALLY the best?

[@AK-fl3nc]

C7 rs6 is one of the best cars ever build by Vw group!

[@volkswizard]

Yep, so true 👍

[@askiff1415]

@@volkswizard had the RS4 and preferred that to the RS6 which in comparison came across as barge like

[@rodgercostello9814]

@@askiff1415 I was going to say I always preferred the rs4 lol

[@1Mr.Legend1]

The C7 is the best design Audi has ever made. New designs do not reflect audi

[@CLOCKCHASER2222]

@@1Mr.Legend1it was till the c8

[@wideangle852]

. . still have my 2014 RS6 C7 since 2016 now on 70K miles . . daily user to work (when the office is open) travelled extensively to race tracks across Europe and to Lillehammer once . . I love it . . tuned to Stage 2 with a sports exhaust . . never fails to make me happy driving and hearing that exhaust growl . . serviced twice a year oil change and had no breakdowns except for 1 radiator hose loom (cost £300) plus 1 set of pilot sport tyres and 2 sets of front brake pads and discs . . averaged so far 18mpg because I have a rather heavy foot . . but on a cruise at 75mph she averages 28mpg . . best Audi car I have ever owned . . and not looking to replace even at £8 a gallon

[@devalr8350]

How has been the maintenance so far on it?

[@adammercysystem6450]

I love comments like this. You've used the car in pretty much every scenario possible, and it still performs and makes you happy. You can't argue with that.

[@grandsonofragnar]

The older one got that 'nice feeling' with the analog speedos and the more rigid interior, and also the sound isn't as muffled/suppressed. I don't like the new one its like a spaceship with no soul.

[@markramsay6399]

Great video and review. I have let go of a C7 RS6, which I had new in 2013, this May. 139,000 miles I did! Amazing car in so many ways (except for MPG, 5 sets of new tyres and 5 sets of pads / discs all around). After one year I also had the Litchfield Type 2 conversion (see Top Gear mag for details) which lifted it to 740 BHP with little more than a remap and bespoke exhaust system. It took my from Reading to Scotland and back several times! Loved it. Now have a new RS5. I love the RS5, but it was a decision to downgrade, could just not cope with the running costs of a new RS6. Nothing like the brute force of the RS6. A classic car in the making (C7 or C8). Mark.

[@volkswizard]

Hey Mark, really appreciate the owner perspective on your C7, 139k miles is pretty hardcore in one of those. RS5 is still one hell of a car for a daily👏🏻

[@csletica]

There are no running costs if it’s new.

[@markramsay6399]

@@csletica they start the minute you are leaving the dealer with fuel. Yes, you probably otherwise have 9 months grace before more costs. Perhaps the dealer might offer a service plan for first 3 years if brand new

[@NGRPNathanKing]

What MPG would you average? City driving?

[@markramsay6399]

@@NGRPNathanKing 10 to 15 mpg in the RS6. Down to 6mpg on a 3 mile round trip school run first thing in the morning (avoided those except when really poor weather, they can walk otherwise !)

[@tomthompson7400]

I like the c7 exterior , and the c8 interior ... but that grey is so quiet , its shots. great review .

[@stevenbaeyens2652]

Just saw a c8 on the road today. Sure the c7 sounds nice but the c8 really looks brutal. I prefer the c8

[@volkswizard]

Brutal is the word - if you like brutal got to be C8, just great we have the choice. It wasn't silver by any chance was it?

[@qbiack]

Joe Achilles has also raised the problem with new RS6 doors - they often just don't shut, due to the air compression inside the cabin. It's too tight!

[@leekindell9937]

i have a c8 and the c7 feels like a big barge to drive after having the updated one with all wheel steer, no comparison. As for the hybrid really helping mpg...lol he clearly didnt have car long, you be lucky to see 25mpg much unless on motorway. Although now tuned to 812bhp and 1135nm mine can get 30 mpg on m way. most of time in the teens having fun.

[@pb3382]

Theres lee again. 812bhp, time and time again you see this guy. Ive asked you a few times. 812bhp stage 2?

[@spookyreaper1702]

@@pb3382it’s right with octane booster you can get 840ish hp

[@pb3382]

@@spookyreaper1702 i have never ever seen one on a rolling road with those figures. The problem with both the rs6/7 c7 AND c8 is the cooling on them is absolutely shocking (i know i have owned both currently own an rs6 c8 vorsprung urban) see all these massive claimed power figures. They will never show the times on a drag strip, or dragy, because they are majorly inflated. I had the fastest rs7 in the uk. Stage 2 apr, eventuri intake. Milltek downpipes, srm chargecoolers, uniroyal rainsport tyres on 19inch oem audi s7 alloys, its on ecotunes site (apr dealer in scotland) its also on apr’s website google paul browne stage 2 apr rs7 record, that car was running 749bhp 1136nm (running sunoco gt260+ fuel) it ran a 10.18 at 137mph at santa pod, then a 10.21, then a 10.41. Its all over the internet. Few of these inflated figure rs6/7’s that were ment to be running 800+bhp were running 10.6’s at best. What does that tell you. I will wait for a quicker rs6/7 c8 stock turbo time…

[@pb3382]

@@spookyreaper1702 im telling you right now this guy will have no times. Hes said it a good few times. Seen it commented on a few different channels, but no proof at all, and i guarantee he will have no official times…

[@spookyreaper1702]

@@pb3382 now that I think about it I agree with you. The m5 with 800hp is quite a bit faster than the rs6. So either it doesn’t really make 800 with 1000+nm or they 2100kg weight is killing it’s performance

[@jamest5149]

Look at the siders web by the interior mirror in the C7 😂👍 Just bought one, nice blue 2016 Performance. Might be in touch about Apple Car play.

[@IronMountainx]

Im getting old, have loved this car since the RS2, but find the latest incarnation just too much, 10% is usable on the road the rest is stats. Have just got back into a mildly tuned R5 Turbo and can honestly say 150bhp is all you need to have an absolute blast on the roads.

[@volkswizard]

Well said

[@allosaurusfragilis7782]

Being well past my show off years, I appreciate a performance car that is more subtle. My old r36 passat ticks that box but whilst it's performance is more than enough for me, the rs6 is a different league . I'm not sure I could use that amount of power, I quite like pushing a car to near its limits and I don't think I'd want to do that in an rs6. The odd burst here and there. I suppose there's always the track but it's going to be too heavy for that. Anyway, it's a hell of a car, lol

[@volkswizard]

Rationally the RS6 makes zero sense but somehow it’s still so desirable. R36 Estate is still very cool too though 👌👌

[@allosaurusfragilis7782]

@@volkswizard mines an 08 saloon, actually. Only got 50k miles, most of them by me. I do love it but most of the time we use an UP and I really like it as well. They don't feel basic and cheap. Great wee car. Cheers!

[@Shyted]

Hate the start-stop, turns the engine off even if you’re not stopping and just almost stopping before pulling away again.

[@volkswizard]

Yep and it can cause a jerk as the gearbox get's confused

[@olih.]

C8 RS6 is next on my list. Had one for a weekend recently and surprised how small it felt considering it’s size and weight. The C7 is starting to looked dated IMHO.

[@volkswizard]

On the road C8 feels agile for sure (even the 40 TDI is a great drive) but you still have to allow for its width on more occassions than is ideal. I agree C7 does looks dated next to it but understated elegance can always look good if not modern

[@t8506]

The C7 will age far better than the C8. Time will tell

[@olih.]

@@t8506 see I think the opposite. But I thought the c7 looked aged from new. But you’re so right let’s see - time will tell.

[@ShaneMuzza]

its not the ride, its the rider.. you have Quattro in both vehicles, gun it - Pre OPF fan

[@seanduncan8927]

Are all Audi designers now aged under 25? Prefer your C7 all day long.

[@volkswizard]

Marc Lichte the design boss is definitely older but there are probably some young guys in there working for him - I just think Chinese market likes brash and that's why so many cars have lost the cool Teutonic look, BMW with those massive grilles is another one.

[@seanduncan8927]

Yep design philosophy now seems to be must look cool rather than classy.

[@rayvalk1433]

The C7 will keep be worth more than C8 in a year of 5

[@llkooldave6492]

@@seanduncan8927I agree they have kind of lost the point of the rs6 it’s supposed to look sleeper, that’s why blokes my age like em, last thing I want is something that looks like something from starwars with all sorts of bits and bobs all over it if I want that I’d get a Honda type R!

[@simonelliott5956]

I have had both air suspension and DRC C7 RS6's and although the DRC is harsher, it's way better to throw around. I've driven two C8's but just can't get on with them, they are missing something, maybe the sound and driver feedback, I am not sure exactly. For the moment The C7 has low enough miles for me not to be looking for a replacement, but I will be stumped when the time comes.

[@JackKing12.]

Do like the MMI screen just slide out seamlessly and the climate control buttons on the C7. The C8 should have these two features to get my custom.

[@mlaing545545]

Great review, very informative. For your C7, how did you upgrade to carplay? Been looking for good options for my c7 S6. Thanks

[@roryb6752]

Really like the range of the reviews you're doing Andrew, keep them coming🙂

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Rory, that means a lot👍

[@4RingsRetro]

Great review as always Andrew. I've watched you from years back and your content is exactly what I'm after. No fuss. No ego. Thanks for all your hard work.

[@volkswizard]

Wow thanks R'n'R and thanks for sticking with the channel all that time - it is much appreicated 👍👍

[@raybrock6083]

I have noticed on Autotrader that many RS6 adverts show the cars have had a lot of owners? with your experience, why would that be the case? Do you think its the expense of running the car or maybe some expensive problems were looming and the car was moved on?

[@964tractorboy]

2022 C8 at 2100kg? That's just nuts. Did you really say the C7 was a cheap car at 80 grand? (Yes!) Andrew, you've changed...

[@volkswizard]

Honestly, I have changed, I certainly don't have £80k for any car sadly! The C7 being cheap is simply relative to the C8 at £115k as tested. Even allowing for inflation that's quite a jump and my point was imagine what Audi could do with an extra £2k budget for the interior, apart from the design, that's the biggest tangible difference over C7

[@964tractorboy]

I did wonder about the price-tag on the C8. I didn't imagine it would be 115k! I take your point that Audi could do a lot with just a fraction of that extra 35k.

[@I_am_Monty]

I think you have a spider living in your C7.. awesome review as usual and great choice 👍

[@corone2018]

C7 is just too good sounds amazing and looks perfect

[@rickj1983]

Beautiful car but here in the states they start at $131,000 which is a chunk of money, I guess for those that make a half million a year.

[@bobibest89]

C7 is the best looking Audi. The design is perfect. Muscular yet elegant.

[@volkswizard]

Couldn't agree more!

[@gregs8685]

Great comparison. 2016 C7.5 RS7 owner here.

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Greg! I am sure most of the things apply to RS7s too, much rarer in both C8 and C7 guise

[@stephenpritchard5296]

Good review, what’s the model of cam your using in car please?

[@Maurice_Moss]

Seenthroughglass experience with the c8 was interesting, said he gets significantly better fuel economy out of his f type, which is quite funny. Probably because the rs6 is so heavy.

[@volkswizard]

It’s a lot more car than an F type, my biggest concern is that it’s not much better, possibly worse than my C7. Petrol engines have always improved the newer they are but not this time, even with mild hybrid. Unfortunate with fuel prices so much higher than when c8 was launched

[@Maurice_Moss]

@@volkswizard yeah true, it also calls into question how much better turbo charging is for fuel economy, as I've heard a few times now about the jlr 5.0 supercharged v8 achieving surprising fuel economy.

[@rohanw1989]

@@Maurice_Moss I wonder the same, I bought the VW Arteon R in February, the fastback one not the shooting brake. It's only a 2ltr and I think the fuel economy is dreadful. I have now covered over 13, 000 miles most of it motorway driving. The most I have got on a good run was from Hemel Hempstead to Crawley one day early hours of the morning in the summer so I hit no traffic at all, steady 70mph in eco mode was 34mpg. If I drive between 40-50mph on shorter rounds around Hertfordshire it will get upto 36mpg. However general day to day commuting, which includes a mixture of motorway, dual carriageway and town, I struggle to get 30mpg most of the time it's around 23-26mpg, all the above figures are in in ECO mode. If I drive in normal mode or if I have my wife and kids in the car the economy drops by 2-4mpg less than the above figures.

[@neilmcmahon]

Never mentioned the rear wheel steering on the c8. That is what is causing the slightly better steering feel in the corners. And why oh why have you got a TDI badge on the c7 with the RS6 badge ??

[@volkswizard]

The rear wheel steering made it into the 5 days with RS6 video, yes I didn't mention it in this one but I'm just glad I could feel its effects and described the effect it had on the car- it turned in so much better, hence why I near put an inside tyre off the road in the corner. When I realised it had RWS it all made sense. I don't know where you live but in the UK the RS6 can attract the wrong sort of attention, I bought one in the stealthiest spec possible (wheels aside) and the badge just adds to that along with front and rear RS6 badges removed or covered up respectively.

[@neilmcmahon]

@@volkswizard The rear still has the RS6 on it. That's what I was asking. If you're going to put a TDI badge for whatever reason, I would definitely remove the RS6 badge. I live in Ireland and drive the c7.5 RS7. Badges still on it. It's an extremely rare car hear. There is one other c8 that I know of and that is basically it in the whole of Ireland. I'm not hating, just talking. I appreciate the response.

[@lenep9985]

The old one will age better on the interior....that piano black will get scratched to hell as prob will the screens. Also dial n clocks are timeless but digital displays age or look outdated...thats why your hyper and high prestige cars dont have all digital dash screens. Also buttons n dial add some class

[@volkswizard]

It will be interesting to see how C8 fairs. I'd hope the piano black is tougher than the cheaper stuff in VW Seat Skoda, only time will tell

[@lenep9985]

@@volkswizard did it have any scratches on the piano black surfaces? Also as an older driver you must also see the value of buttons and dials....also alcantara wheel looks good untill it wears out....give me the old one, i feel it caters for a wider audience... esp age wise...

[@danielrussell446]

Andrew a brilliant video as ever I am sorry this is late I missed it for some reason! I love the colour of the c8 but I much prefer the design and look of yours the c7 it looks a quality car and flowing lines as well it looks elegant some parts of the c8 don’t work for me styling wise and the interior looks much better made and quality on the c7 like some other VAG cars it seems lower quality on newer models It’s a good comparison between the two and I’d love one if I had the money keep up the hard work!

[@volkswizard]

Thanks ever so much Daniel. Don't worry about being late, every view means a lot no matter when it takes place. I actually think interior of C8 is very impressive, material quality seems high, how well it will age is hard to tell though, piano black has a reputation for tarnishing quickly so I hope it's superior to the VW and Seat stuff! C7 does have an old school solidity to it and has passed the ageing test with flying colours! Check out the new video on living with the C8 for 5 days, it's so easy to live with apart from a couple of minor issues.

[@NIKOLASAV1]

1st generation immigrant in Germany. Barely bought 2008 Golf for 3200€, so this question I trully find redundant.🤣🤣🤣 Nice video regardles.😅

[@1valg]

What you want for a daily is an A6 TDI 320 all-road. With a mild tune it will do almost anything you need.

[@volkswizard]

Nice car but diesel values are really on the slide so while cheaper to run, could cost more in longer term

[@1valg]

@@volkswizard Its not about the cost 😊

[@LeeLeeds-t9f]

I’ll stick to the rs6 my daily 😂

[@malcolmscott4150]

Brilliant video Andrew and C7 a great buy as clearly can cope with many miles under its belt. C8 I do like in blue and nicely optioned however hardly a stealth machine - I rewatched your A6 Avant launch video and even as a 40 TDI it looks great ❤

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Malcolm as ever! The A6 Avant drove really nicely, the S6 TDI I drove to Germany was incredible but the street cred of RS6 is hard to beat (mpg however is quiet easy to beat 😂)

[@Lessgo00]

Why th should it be stealth if it's an RS? This is what's wrong with Audi all these years, you hardly recognize an ordinary model to an RS. This is why people are calling them bland. If it's an RS then let it scream RS

[@jon_273]

Glad to see another video on the C7 finally! I was worried you had moved it on already. It's such a lovely car, don't hide it from us!!

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Jon. Occasionally I save up enough cash to put some fuel in and film it 😉

[@matthewpokora336]

Picked up my C7 RS6 last month. Best car I've ever owned.

[@volkswizard]

Nice work Matthew, enjoy it!

[@matthewpokora336]

@@volkswizard thanks man. I'm a new subscriber to your channel and I'm loving your content so far bud. Keep it up 👍

[@Doguelife]

Prefer the C7 definitely! That back view on the blue c8 does look nice but the triangular front bits I think look crap in comparison. I once was lucky to drive a C5 rs6 avant many many years ago. I still remember grinning like a madman when I floored it. It was the feeling of like in a plane when you take off. I later learned that’s the torque. Please tell me what’s it feel like nowadays in the C7? Still gives me that great takeoff feeling I hope 🙏🏻 want to get one soon maybe in a year or so 😊

[@volkswizard]

Trust me, the C7 definitely gives you the take off feeling! Unlike C5 it also has the reverse thrust feeling too as it has decent brakes :))

[@dasautogt]

RS6 an all time classic IMO. Subjective, love that blue. 👍 (Saw this vid pop up earlier, clicked on it to watch, said private video then disappeared. Andrew not happy with something I thought 🤔😁).

[@volkswizard]

Thanks for coming back Graeme, had a technical issue with that. Rush job as all filmed yesterday. Hope you enjoyed it👍

[@dasautogt]

@@volkswizard Yes, was awaiting the RS6 one, a fav car of mine. 👍

[@Birmingham_racing]

I love both of these cars but if I had the c7 I wouldn't be in a rush to buy the c8. Not putting the c8 down it's just that the c7 is that good there's not much more you can ask for especially considering the price

[@volkswizard]

Very true sir. A Performance C7 would make it even harder to justify the move to C8

[@fbf01]

The c7 looks insanely dated though

[@Birmingham_racing]

@@fbf01 not really obviously the c8 is newer but look at the price difference

[@maitremonkey5561]

Nice spider web at the inner mirror of the C7

[@volkswizard]

Well spotted!

[@rohanw1989]

Audi spec sheet actually states 565 litres for the boot.

[@volkswizard]

Thanks for that, not sure where I got 545 from especially as they are the same for both cars so I must have researched that

[@sadsismint]

I just got a C7.5 and whilst it does feel pretty ancient inside these days compared to newer cars, the space and the pace are still totally worth it. The MPG is not though... that should be illegal haha! The funny thing is that I came from the same model year RS3 and the RS3 felt years ahead.... but there's always ups and down to any car you get.

[@volkswizard]

C7 was a few years earlier than 8V RS3 and in those few years things move on a lot when it came to interiors and the 7.5 facelift didn't really do much to improve things inside. It does feel ancient and the door trim tops are pretty nasty but overall it has an old school feel of solidity which I don't think C8 has got (though C8 is still very good). Great car, and enjoy! PS I am 99% sure C7.5 is way better on fuel than C8 thought maybe not RS3 :)

[@sadsismint]

@@volkswizard It is certainly not as good as the RS3 haha! But yes, does feel nice and solid inside, if pretty dated. But I'm still enjoying it! The extra space, comfort and burbling along is very very nice. The pace is just SO effortless in it.

[@Jasongib]

The C7 is the best Rs6 for me😍

[@MrTimjm009]

I would have the older one, if only for the raw sound

[@simo7321]

Great video, you can't beat a fast wagon! What tyres are they on, is the C7 on Conti's 5P?

[@volkswizard]

Hi Simo73, yep Conti 5ps, had to replace 2 so got the same again - couldn't get Goodyear Supersports in that size sadly otherwise would have got a set

[@pr-tj5by]

The C7 didn't get destroyed by the competition from Merc and BMW like the C8 does, it destroyed the competition.....

[@TwinkieCakey]

bruh i got some serious anxiety looking at that C8 interior. i just don't feel it one bit...but then i saw C7 interior and it made my smile go over jupiter. :D

[@ramo8460]

Awesome vid..C7 is the ultimate estate car. Just out of interest..how did you upgrade the C7 media to allow apple car play?

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Ramo84! Bizarrely that upgrade is FOC, just watch the video. I thought it was a scam but lots of happy customers in comments and it worked - download server is very slow though, took many hours and I am on a good broadband. Plus SD card needs to be 16GB min 32GB max for FAT32 format and the downloaded file is a 7Zip compressed archive. It needs to be extracted and the contents need to be taken out of the 2 higher level folders so the MMI will acknowledge the upgrade - all easy but 7GB file so quite cumbersome to cut and paste but worth it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jISVYn-vmtimbdE

[@ramo8460]

Thanks Wizard! 😀

[@dutchschaefer5787]

Great vid. Will be updating my C7 S6 for a C7 RS6 in the coming months. 👍🏼

[@volkswizard]

Nice 👍Thanks Dutch, I fancy a later better spec car myself

[@lezzgp]

The term your looking for which you can’t find on the C8 is what we call in South Africa 🇿🇦 #VrrPha!!

[@kieranmanners170]

Love the comparison, BUT please get that cobweb off your c7 rear view mirror 😂

[@volkswizard]

Done!😁

[@maxim_muravjov]

There are cobwebs around the rearview mirror in Audi C7

[@Ste967]

Those spider nets at min 24:44! Came on!!! 🙂

[@volkswizard]

Tip trips to blame

[@Ste967]

@@volkswizard 🤣🤣🤣

[@adamg393]

This car has a spiders 🕷 Web as well as the last TT, behind the wing mirror

[@volkswizard]

Very true, I must valet more thoroughly above dashboard!

[@ianbath4776]

Golf R estate all day, for cost and A to B performance

[@garymcgregor7048]

Hi, subscriber of course. My wife has a vw eos tfsi. 2.0. Basically the mk5 golf gti engine. Our garage has recommended we don't use e10 fuel as it damages the engine. Maybe a good video topic after some research.

[@justinevans1894]

Prefer the C7 looks, C8 too garish. I'm right in thinking they made a V10 version before these?

[@volkswizard]

Yep C6 was twin turbo V10, possibly more or the same power but a lot heavier and slower and thirstier and very nose heavy but last time they did a saloon which in right colour is a real sleeper. Came out in thick of financial crash of 2008 so not a big seller.

[@kresa22]

Good video, and great family cars... I like that you have a spider in your RS6 😁🕷️🕸️

[@volkswizard]

Thank you NK! 👍 I think the Spider was from taking garden stuff to the tip. I try not to leave it in overnight but last time it was due to rain so best place was in the car, I think the spider agreed!

[@MrKasy8]

C7 will always be something special 🪄

[@motarolfc]

Anyone has issues with the Bose sound system after updating car play it mentions Bose amplifier not sure what it means. Cheers 👍

[@volkswizard]

The update has a checklist of things that it changes and you need to make sure BOSE amp is not one of them. That's stated pretty clearly by the guy in the video and when I did the update, BOSE was already unchecked

[@dtprodrive]

The c8 is the biggest let down rs6 every other model that came before it was was such a benchmark car and yes you could say other manufacturers have moved the game on but for me the c8 is a bit of a flop. The c7 however is an absolute future classic. Brutal machine. May even buy one after my f90 m5

[@Tony8286]

That cobweb on the C7 rear view mirror is annoying me

[@murrayashworth78]

Great comparison video Andrew, awesome British secondary Rd’s to video on. Noticed you have a little friend camped out in your C7, probably happy it’s found a home to spin itself a web.😂 🇳🇿🇨🇦

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Murray, we are blessed with the varied road network we have here in the UK, just don't try and film when the kids are coming home from school ;) I used the RS6 for a run to the local tip/recycling centre and the spider must have stowed away then 😁

[@rohanw1989]

Does the C8 RS6 have the new European speed limiter built in seeing as it's 72reg and that rule came about from July 6th.

[@volkswizard]

No that I've noticed, it seems refreshing relaxed with the Driver 'Assistance" stuff, doesn't even have radar cruise control

[@rohanw1989]

@@volkswizard thanks for the reply, that's interesting as I was hearing alot of the EU speed limiters and I was thinking when they bring that in what's the point of owning cars like the RS6 and the likes.

[@1Mr.Legend1]

The C7 is the best design Audi has ever made. New designs do not reflect audi

[@dog-bite186]

Another fantastic video Andrew. Are you producing a 2023 Volkswizard calendar this year?

[@volkswizard]

Thanks again Dog-bite! Yes indeed, will work on calendar next week, got some awesome RS6 images today 👍

[@rolfjakobeltervag1465]

2 weeks after upload the unvail of the rs6 and rs7 performance is out ouf 630hp 850nm🙈

[@volkswizard]

Yes, total coincidence!

[@destro3804]

the old one just looks better more solid

[@brickisland6353]

Do you have spider web on the rear view mirror in the C7? That could have been cleaned out.

[@volkswizard]

Yep, I don't lookk above the dash when I'm in a rush to clean a car so missed that

[@paulshepherd5649]

older model: car with a screen attached newer model: screen with a car attached

[@volkswizard]

🤓

[@philrodgers1043]

I really like your reviews Andrew, keep them coming!

[@volkswizard]

Glad you like them Phil, that means an awful lot so thanks and thanks for taking the time to comment too👍

[@greghitt1704]

The flared wheel arches of the C7 look way more butch combined with a more classic styling - the C7 is my pick over the C8. Both are stunning cars

[@volkswizard]

Another vote for.C7, thanks Greg 👍

[@partytoy1]

Nice spider webs on your rear view mirror on the grey car, I guess even spiders love a fast awesome ride in a great car :)

[@remfanuk1970]

...but, are they really fun to drive Andrew? i am always drawn to RS models but worry that they aren't all that exciting? i don't want to be thrown into a hedge either. i had a b9 s4 avant and went to an s3 8v...so disappointed. drove a b7 rs4...loved the sound but man was it crashy, too harsh a ride for me. not sure what's going to keep me in the vag group right now. any thoughts?

[@volkswizard]

That's a good question. It's funny but a car that's handful can be more enjoyable than something that's too easy so compared to a Golf R I'd say they are enjoyable. And whilst they are inevitably prone to understeer, the drive from the rear axle with the sport diff will mitigate most of that, on track I suspect it's a different story. The only real issue is the width, it's all fine if drivers coming the opposite way say on their side of the white line but as I am sure you know it's not always the case. How about RS3? Last of the 8V is a great package if specced right. Was the B7 RS4 on standard suspension as the DRC system was meant to keep them poised but comfy? B7 S4 without it is rock hard by comparison

[@remfanuk1970]

@@volkswizard RS products always make my head turn and generally all my vag cars have been reliable and a nice place to live. i have considered m3/4 or c63 but my wife is totally against the bmw's due to perceived unreliability. a v8 i want in my life, it's just what car will i wrap around a lovely engine. i honestly don't know what suspension the b7 RS4 was on...the engine was superb and i felt i could definitely live with that. maybe i should try out another one to compare against. the rs3 is another car on the horizon. i am going to research possible rs6 and rs4...with a sports diff. a little push from the rear is better than a tankslapper into the nearest hedgerow, particularly of those non-competition pack bmw's. are we going to see more of your RS6 on the channel now? thanks Andrew :)

[@jaapfeitsma559]

The large monstertruck wheels is what i really hate about the new RS6.

[@volkswizard]

You can go one size down and that's it because the brakes are SO big 420mm!

[@prosche407]

Nice review!!! I am looking for a C7 RS6 2018, it is still expensive in Australia to buy one.

[@volkswizard]

Might be expensive hui but it’s a big car for a big country so worth it 👍

[@prosche407]

@@volkswizard yeah, no one will say " NO " to that V8 !!!!

[@theotherchannel2028]

old one no doubt, so much better

[@MrSattalk]

Looks like the first car he drove has been hanging around cos its covered in webs.

[@Samfamson]

When the c8 has the trump card , he goes on to say something to make his c7 feel less trumped …

[@rampanttwattery4844]

C7 A6 Avant is a high watermark for understated Audi design. Even in RS guise it’s relatively subtle, mostly due to the high number of S-Line models on the road. C8 is just too ghastly now, styled to appeal to truly awful humans. Not for me. De-badged C7 in silver for me please 👌

[@John_spartan]

I’ll take the V10 .

[@b_the_lone_wolf]

Anyday. C6 V10 still rules them all.

[@crazyman1979]

Great review Love my APR tuned C7 RS6 - best car I’ve ever had ❤

[@volkswizard]

Great car!

[@peterrichardson9248]

The C7 looks lovely and doesn't shout look at me you pleb I snarl and I'm fast.

[@shotta287]

C7 for me. Timeless design and one of Audi’s best built cars.

[@volkswizard]

Amen 😎

[@mohammadsattar5488]

The RS4-R ABT is a much better car all round

[@resnonverba137]

A comprehensive comparison, thanks. Some start-up noise would have been appreciated and please don't use Americanisms.

[@askiff1415]

Agree hate the way lazy Americanisms and slang have infiltrated the English language

[@volkswizard]

Glad you enjoyed it Res. Not sure what I said but I'm always trying to consider the audience and with C8 RS6 being sold in North America as well as UK I probably didn't think it was too bad. At least I don't say rotors and fenders :)

[@resnonverba137]

@@volkswizard Thanks for a considered reply. You said, ' getting on the gas', or something along those lines. I've heard a lot worse from other KZbinrs, as you indicate, but I prefer correct English. Have a good evening.

[@robc5955]

Great review, probs my most realistic dream car but still seems to get further away each year. Like you the stealth look might be better in UK.

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Rob. I think RS6 prices will come down soon so hopefully it will be more attainable and C7 is pretty tough if not modded so even an older one should be a decent car

[@JM-mb6tf]

25:29 - love the spider web :D

[@douglastaylor8039]

Best cars ??? Always in the shop.

[@shepardman993]

Neither there to heavy to big to slow... but they look fantastic You want a fast car Do not buy one of these

[@volkswizard]

3.6 to 60 is slow? The new one handles really well too so not sure why you think they are slow!

[@Tracertme]

I stay with the C7 please. I really can’t handle that interior dash on the c8. Seeing them back to back the c7 has a more holistic design, where the c8 gets to busy and just tries to hard to be a sports car when we know it’s an estate. / avant. It ends up not making sense holistically for me.

[@volkswizard]

That’s the problem with C7 being so perfect, hard to improve on. C8 is a victim of the law of diminishing returns

[@miguelqueiroga5309]

Amazing Test !! Thanks for that . Better Car in Market !! But I will go for C8 !!

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Miguel. There is no bad choice, I’m just happy that you like that video 😁

[@volvos60bloke]

please test some true british car's what celebrate are brexit. like are new mg's or rover's. or cashqui's what are built in sunderland ect.

[@volkswizard]

Chinese MGs and Japanese Nissans are ‘true British’?

[@danielrussell446]

Eh hang on the channel is Volks Wizard what would that mean do you think - Volkswagen Audi group products is the most obvious

[@garymuckle1002]

free spider and web on the old rs6

[@volkswizard]

Yep, I honestly didn't expect to be cleaning above the dashboard but clearly I should have 🕸🕸🕷🕷

[@deleted.6743]

why are your seats laying almost flat while driving lol may as well look out the sunroof while you drive.

[@robinpelletstovesuk9194]

C6 RS6 for me .. I mean its a cool family wagon and now they are cheap

[@Jigsjigz]

bloody hell you let a spider into the RS!? id keep a car like that clean as fk but then again im not rich :|

[@vr6280]

Really great review of 2 amazing cars. :) :) :)

[@volkswizard]

Thanks man 🙌🏻

[@JP_RS6]

I'm aiming for a RS6 at some point, dream car. Will probably get one in 5 yrars yime and it will have to be a 2018 model so its depreciated enough for me to afford to buy and run it lol.

[@volkswizard]

The good thing is as long as they aren’t tuned they should be reliable even at that age👍