New Balance Fresh Foam X 860v12 Review | 2021

[@vinnyseed1142]

Crazy how new balance brings in so many different kinds of people to their fanbase. I'm a sneaker head who likes things like Jordan retros and Yeezys, but here I am ooing and gooing over this running shoe 😂. Idk it just looks so premium and like it feels amazing on foot

[@RunMoore]

It is a great shoe!

[@jdidsbury]

Great review, Steve. Always so much more informative than others. 👍

[@RunMoore]

Thank you for watching!

[@janicehixon1851]

Are these squishy cushioned or are they more stabilized with the right amount of cushion like the 860 v12?

[@rossedwardmiller]

I usually shop with charm city run but I gotta give this guy my money on my next shoe purchase.

[@reginaalear]

I almost purchased the V11 yesterday and now I’m glad I waited.

[@RunMoore]

The new one is definitely an upgrade!

[@TDMiller]

That's great and all, but when will the next Altras drop? 😃

[@RunMoore]

That is the age-old question, isn't it? 😆

[@elgezouliabdul4973]

Thanks steve for this information I have a question please does à neutral runner wear stability shoes such as the 860v12 I have knew issues ? Thanks à lot

[@bobman929]

I went to 3 shops recently and couldn't find a stability shoe that only had the pronation protections. Shoes with both bruise the outside of my foot.

[@Running_injuries]

you sell ammo?

[@patriciagay1403]

Really informative, including the comments. Thankyou so much from Australia

[@megang9563]

Very nice video…looking at both v12 and v13 at this point. Most of my miles are road, dirt, and crushed limestone. I wear Saucony guides but noticing blisters/callouses forming on insides of big toes and balls of feet. I’d like to try these but also curious, could these be used on light, non-technical trails? I have my first 50 miler in May and it is part road, part dirt road, and part trail. Sorry for the length of this. Just looking for the best options

[@Treenabeaner]

I just bought some new balances and at first they felt great, but after 2 hours my arch began to chaff only on 1 foot. I think because my left foot is flatter I may need to switch to a wide. Your video was so helpful! Thank you!

[@RunMoore]

Hopefully a wide helps you out! Thanks for watching

[@bmoody82]

My Mom works for New Balance & asked her for this style for Christmas this year since she gets a discount. I've got wide feet & a high arch. Also I'm a big dude who really only runs on a treadmill & need stability. But also want comfortable walking shoes for outdoors. Hopefully these will fit the bill.

[@RunMoore]

Hope you enjoy them!

[@payalmakadia5958]

Thank you for your informative videos! I have severe overpronation and flat feet (causing intermittent medial knee pain). What is the best stability shoe you would recommend for walking/floor exercises (not a runner)? Thanks!

[@RunMoore]

Some shoes that would be good options would be the Mizuno Horizon, Brooks Adrenaline, Altra Paradigm, or New Balance 860

[@krist992]

Does it have arch support?

[@Lokahi-fo-life]

I just picked up the 860v11 online. I hope they fit well.

[@RunMoore]

Hope so, thanks for watching!

[@Lokahi-fo-life]

@@RunMoore they canceled my order. They said the ran out. 😢

[@RunMoore]

@@Lokahi-fo-life So sorry to hear that! The v11 is the old version of the 860, so you might have more luck finding the v12 in stock as that is the up-to-date model.

[@Lokahi-fo-life]

@@RunMoore yes, thank you. It was a close out and heavily discounted. The V12 is supposed to be better. I’m cheap, lol.

[@RunMoore]

@@Lokahi-fo-life Totally fair!

[@David-vi1ex]

Great review as usual. Thanks!

[@RunMoore]

Thanks for watching!

[@ChaseN194]

Went from the ultraboost 2.0 to the 860s and the Adidas are SERIOUSLY better. The 860s have been giving me so many shin splints and knee issues vs the ultraboosts.

[@SoloKaay]

Just a question? Are you flat footed as they are made for flat footed people and if your not flat footed they would litterally cause multiple issue within the shoe if your not

[@BradFord866]

That was great - very helpful 💯

[@RunMoore]

Thanks for watching!

[@samuel99813]

Hi which is the better option. For someone with moderate low arches and does mostly hiit style treadmill and 7 mph runs after gym workouts these or the kayano lite 2 ?

[@RunMoore]

I would recommend the New Balance 860, just because it is a lighter shoe. It is a great cross-training shoe for those who do HITT and is light and bouncy, whereas the Kayano Lite 2 is a little overkill on cushion for this particular application.

[@ahmadyousuf7926]

Great review 👍🏻 My question is: I normally use size 9 2E with New balance , due to having wide flat feet , so with the 860 v 12 from what I understood Now I will only need 9 ? Thanks

[@RunMoore]

If you were wearing wide before, I recommend sticking with the 2E. Even though this version is slightly wider than the last, the standard is still not as wide as the previous 2E.

[@ahmadyousuf7926]

@@RunMoore appreciate it 👍🏻💫⭐💫😁

[@weouchere8384]

I have been wearing the 860 v11 for years. Is the tongue still held straight on the sides like that v11?? Seems super similar. Any input would be great !

[@RunMoore]

Version 12 does not have the tongue sewed onto the sides like previous models.

[@erictrinh13]

I am torn between the 860 or the Vongo from NB! In knowing that I am hoping to purchase the More v4 - which one of the two would better compliment each other? Hoping to use these shoes for walking/standing all day. Thank you!

[@RunMoore]

The main difference between the Vongo v5 and the 860v13 is the stack height and cushioning. The Vongo has a higher stack height which makes it substantially more cushioned than the 860. The Vongo will complement the More v4 better than the 860 because it has a similar "Maximum Cushion" profile.

[@erictrinh13]

@@RunMoore would you say one has a better or more prominent medial post/support for overpronation than the other?

[@RunMoore]

@@erictrinh13 Because the 860 v13 is less cushioned than the Vongo v5, it will be more supportive. That's usually the tradeoff for stability shoes. More cushion means less support. More support means less cushion.

[@neva4912]

I have back issues but working on a training schedule with my PT to get me running again. I am looking for a shoe that gives plenty of cushioning and support to run out on the street or in our nearby forest. I wear NB 680v6 (wider version) day-in and day-out but my PT suggests I buy separate running shoes. So I am wondering which would suit me best between the following - since they all retail for €140 on the NB website: - Fresh Foam 880v10 - Fresh Foam 880v11 - Fresh Foam X 860v12 - after watching your informative video though, I think these are my best option? I would prefer to go to the store but we don't have these running shoes stores around here. Thank you either way for your great, informative video! Keep it up!

[@RunMoore]

Of these options, the 860 is the only one that provides stability. The other options here are neutral, meaning they don't correct your gait or lift your arch. The 860 is the most supportive on this list.

[@neva4912]

@@RunMoore Thank you so much! I will probably order them in a day or two, they look/sound promising! Would you suggest using different pairs of shoes for different activities too? Meaning, I would only use the Fresh Foam X 860v12 for running and not too much for daily activities like walking etc?

[@RunMoore]

@@neva4912 We recommend having a pair of shoes specifically designated for running and not wearing your running shoes as everyday shoes. Both to make sure your running shoes hold up and maintain the support you need and because running shoes stink! Your running shoes and everyday shoes do not have to be different models, just physically different pairs.

[@erictrinh13]

860 v13 Review? Moreover, comparison between NB’s two stability shoes - Vongo vs 860?

[@RunMoore]

We have already made a review on the 860 v13! You can find it here with the link provided - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5-ukpagpNl9qtU.

[@someshchouksey5085]

Hello sir...I have a really flat arches...during running i feel so intense pain in my legs below knee...dies this shoe help me? Pls help...!!

[@RunMoore]

Knee pain is often caused by not having enough stability in the arch. This shoe does have the stability to protect against pronation, so this would likely help your knee pain.

[@brenden5248]

Yep brooks is pushing my Brooks beast 22 I'm pissed fall told me hopefully new balance 1540 v4 come next month

[@hum-dinger2453]

sucks so hard. all the kicks i have on the radar are pushed intill September or later.

[@xbadandy182x]

I just started running for the first time in my life mid-October, and have been getting beat up left and right. I started with a pair of Saucony Ride 13st that were at the end of their life. Got some nasty heel pain, and ditched em. Being a bit of an idiot I thought I needed heavily cushioned shoes - So I tried Nike ZoomX Invincibles. Was great at first until I figured out how horrid their stability is. Now I'm nursing knee pains I didn't have before - but my heels are totally fine. I picked up these NB FF x860 v12s today from the local running store after their staff analyzed my messed up flat feet.. duck walk.. collapsing inward ankles. Its no wonder I was having issues. Can't wait to heal back up and give these shoes an honest go on the road. Great review here that definitely gave me more confidence I made a good purchase and am at least going in a better direction 👍

[@RunMoore]

Hope they work out well for you!

[@Running_injuries]

100% Plain black extra wide only (or natural foot shape) with toe spreaders over toe socks _ stability for taking a lane -_

[@d.oconnor4047]

So I have a pair of 860 v11's and I find the stability wedge on the medial side to be waaaay too aggressive, so much so that I get quite sharp pain in my arch area and I feel like they're forcing me to walk on the outside of my feet. (I bought a 2E also) I have flat feet with a very low arch so these kinds of shoes are made for someone like me but man... that hard wedge is just unbearable. Do you think the V12 solves this problem? I started running in a pair of Nike Dart stability shoes and I absolutely loved them!, tried to match they're specs and shape with a current shoe and landed on the Mizuno Wave Inspire 17, they have a very similar shape and 12mm drop so I'm hoping they do the trick! 🤞😊

[@RunMoore]

I do not think you would find the 860v12 any better based on what is bugging you. The stability between the 11 and 12 is going to feel the same. While that shoe does sound like it would be right for your foot shape it does not always mean it is the perfect shoe for your needs. We have people all the time that have flat feet that do better in low arch or neutral shoes. Sometimes you have to go with what feels best, as long as it does not cause injury. The Inspire is good but it has some of the same medial-only arch support as the 860. If that one does not work I would maybe pop over to a Brooks Adrenaline 22. They have it in widths, it is a 12 mm drop and the arch is not as aggressive but it is still a stable shoe. Hope that helps.

[@d.oconnor4047]

@@RunMoore It does very much thankyou! Yeah I think Im gonna move more towards stable neutral shoes rather than all out stability shoes, especially ones with posts. I have a list to try out, maybe you could let me know if it sounds good? Clifton 8 / Bondi 7. Sacauny Triumph 19 / Ride 14. And Brooks Ghost 14 / Adrenalinne 22. 👍😊 ... Oh by the way, the inspires are uncomfortable too because of that medial post so I'm gonna try Muzuno's Ride 25's neutral shoe too.

[@TheUsualSuspekt]

I overpronate. Do you think you'd need an orthotic?

[@RunMoore]

This shoe is a stability shoe, so it is designed to correct pronation within the structure of the shoe. If you regularly wear an orthotic, we always recommend taking a few weeks to wear a new pair of shoes without orthotics, as the combination of an orthotic + a stability shoe can overcorrect pronation and cause problems the other way.

[@TheUsualSuspekt]

@@RunMoore Thanks. I didn't even think pronation was correctable. I'm a pretty fast runner (not elite by any means) but feel limited on options because of my pronation. I have been doing exercises to strengthen that area and no progress. This would not be my shoe of choice normally but if it will prevent injury, I gotta roll with it.

[@RunMoore]

@@TheUsualSuspekt Stability shoes are definitely your friend! It is not really possible to stop yourself from pronating, as your gait is very difficult to change, but it is possible to wear shoes that provide support to mitigate the imbalances caused by pronation. You can also look into the New Balance Prism V2 and Brooks Adrenaline.

[@TheUsualSuspekt]

@@RunMoore Thanks. I have the Adenalines now. I just think the clerk gave me the wrong orthotic. I really prefer ONs but they don't work well for double digit miles but serve me fine for 5-10ks, especially the Aces. Would love to get your .02 on Gel Kayano. That was another one recommended yesterday when I went to my local store.

[@TimBolenski]

Is there a stability “walking” shoe from NB?

[@RunMoore]

The 860 does work well as a walking shoe, but if you are looking for even more cushion, the Vongo is a great high cushion stability option from New Balance.

[@BlueManatee]

My girlfriend wants these for Christmas. Do you think if she has the brooks adrenaline she would like these?

[@theviolinpedagogue2308]

Yes-I wear both and like them!

[@jesuscruz836]

selfishly, I wish you were in southern florida

[@RunMoore]

Thank you for watching! The good news is our online store ships to the entire US.

[@heres_the_sauce]

I bought this shoe literally from Dicks sporting goods 😂

[@RyansRunningReviewsYT]

LOL New Balance and their shoe names...

[@RunMoore]

So many numbers and random letters!