New Ball, Same Problems.

[@sloth6070]

Goes in > hacked > fall back and heal > goes in > booped back > goes in > slept > fall back and heal > goes in > hacked...

[@btrayed]

average tank experience unless you play some dedbrain heros like orisa, then you just fall asleep

[@zsd6344]

"just bait their cooldowns bro" "just go in when they dont have their cooldowns bro"

[@rami8279]

@@btrayed >Switch to Orisa > Die of boringness

[@RainbowLizardOne]

one must imagine sisyphus happy

[@btrayed]

@@rami8279 or don't play the game

[@nickmatzke9314]

Your teammates should thank you for taking all those cooldowns so they don’t have to

[@sebastianmelendez5572]

How about a “Ball you’re useless” in the text chat instead?

[@stottpie]

Spoiler: they don't

[@MM-ux7kp]

I would have, 100%. reDICulous high effort.

[@lcwangee]

I suffer = my teammates are happy = I’m happy. Conclusion: I suffer = I’m happy. 😊

[@realms4219]

They're too busy walking down main instead of taking the castle.

[@yaboirandall7638]

>open overwatch 2 >pick wrecking ball >enemy team has sombra >regret being alive

[@harrybeast58]

Better yet, pick ball, roll them the first two fights, THEN they get sombra, go cry in the corner.

[@rolytnz]

This. Don't forget Cassidy's Lazy Grenade as well.

[@matthewbrears2129]

@@harrybeast58 literally this. The trick is to balance being good and bad just enough so they don't swap lol

[@Atomicpowerz]

If its just Sombra its ok. I always wins vs Sombra But enemy teams usually have more CC than just one Sombra. So thats a problem.

[@hooparainbowbraceypkmonand7862]

Yeah in order to even play ball you then have to learn orisa/mauga/ramattra because otherwise if they go hog or sombra you just lose

[@marcus6918]

1:50 - 2:50 is the most bullsht i have ever seen in all of overwatch

[@bambampewpew32]

Lmao yeah "less cc in ow2" my ass Before I get nerd emoji'd, I know there is less but with one less tank there's effectively just as much if not more cc FELT Edit: I did NOT think this would get this many replies, thank you youtube for also not notifying me

[@trevormars5370]

That was so painful to watch. Idk how he kept his calm lol

[@bambampewpew32]

@@trevormars5370 for real I would've at least been joking about it after the first hack

[@Dragoon710]

That was an incredibly bad play on yeatle part

[@picklesmckenzie6094]

yeah something needs to be done about this.

[@Momo_pstat4]

If being able to “play better than 99% of other ball players” still means “not getting to play the game”… you know its bad

[@MaxKurtin]

the amount of cc truly is painful to watch

[@pilhlip]

No no no they got rid of all cc when they switched to overwatch 2. Remember?

[@rockstermaniac]

What's equally painful is seeing how many times he gets back out in spite of both that and all the damage he's taking and realizing that without the CC he'd be getting 2-3k per engagement no matter what the enemy team plays. These are GM players and the best option they can come up with to not die instantly to a giant metal ball is to stun it.

[@Gnomie445]

​@rockstermaniac i think he has high survivability cause hes a low damage zoner built to disorganize teams, idk i haven't played in years so im lost on what the devs changed

[@spew42]

but we moved to 5v5 so that this wouldn't happen anymore!

[@Spider-Complexion]

But I thought blizzard said that CC would be gone from OW2😢

[@AnotherGradus]

More like "Punching Bag" than "Wrecking Ball"

[@MrZebanHai]

The world would be a better place if everyone had Wrecking Balls.

[@bigfudge2031]

I would have gone for "football"

[@WaffleKrushaTTV]

😂😂 that's great

[@shangzong1598]

Sombra is just so oppressive against tanks like all she has to do to completely shut down a play is unskillfully hold a button in the general direction of an enemy

[@monki9941]

Crazy how cooldowns just became inherently stronger by removing a hero so now the cooldowns are focused on the single tank. You can change the values on cooldowns all you want but it wont change the fact that they'll still all be used on the single tank

[@sideeswipe]

Sombra only shuts down ball and doom so dunno how that’s “all tanks”

[@Lucuman91]

It should be a skillshot, her hacked health packs shouldn't be completely unusable for the enemies maybe they just heal your for half, and hack shouldn't force ball into crab mode

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

And people constantly cope “Just play corners” “Just shoot her when she hacks” “play with your team” do they not understand that Sombra is perma invis? If Sombra doesn’t want to take a fight she just doesn’t have to. She can just sit and wait for your team to push in and leave the zen for 2 seconds. “Sombra is more punishable” oh yes it’s so easy to punish a 6 sec cd teleport that she cannot be stunned out of. Sombra is the only character in the game (except for new ball) that if you miss a cd you’re forgiven. Breaking hack with los does nothing as it does not go on cooldown even tho you skillfully disrupted the .65 cast time. Why can she sit in the hack animation? Why is hack an auto aim 15m cc. These useless fucking devs just need to gut the annoying characters (Orisa, hog, mauga, widow, sombra, sym, torb, bap, Kiri) so we can have a season of fun.

[@m4gnum203]

@@sideeswipe she does well against sigma. She hard counters sigma and orisa ults

[@viniciusespindola7238]

And Orisa gets to be unboopable, unstunable, and unkillable by pressing a button

[@tiancsb]

Updating Ball's shields so that it can't be hacked, stunned, or booped while in ball form when shield is active could be nice.

[@VLEIX]

Mobility*

[@Atomicpowerz]

@@tiancsb or whent ball moves during fireball it whould be nice

[@S3nCh4n]

@@tiancsb that sounds miserable to play against, having 1000hp flying around in your backline is awful

[@beachbomb]

​@@tiancsb not even that is good enough, he's not as threatening and damaging as other tanks at all, if the balls hits and stomps did high damage they would totally be worth the plays and being a huge target

[@zsd6344]

1:50 - 2:50 is EXACTLY why people don't play tank. is he getting value? sure he's getting cooldowns out and sombra isn't doing anything, but how is that fun for the tank? there's no fun in being pummeled by 27 different cooldowns at once. 6v6 is needed

[@Chris-ou4zp]

I played ball the other day, wasn't doing much but the enemy team ended up triple countering me. I'm not even a good ball, I was just confused more than anything as to why they would triple counter someone who's barely existing.

[@aaronolson6736]

Tank Moment, but because its Ball who does his own thing most of the time the counter swaps don't gain much otherwise

[@mikejowan3340]

Because its easier to get value out of a desperate counter swap than it is to squeeze value out of a niche hero, so they are net positive by bringing your value closer to 0 than to try to create value themselves, even if you're doing nothing

[@sugarkrisp5199]

@@mikejowan3340 i think its also because most people never learned how to look at a comp and identify a win condition and understand how the two team comps interact on that specific map. that takes some game knowledge and experience, so most people just braindead counter swap and never think about anything past "kill tank = win"

[@strike123456789]

Ball is annoying

[@slandergames9494]

​@@sugarkrisp5199 that too but specifically in balls case, most people see your running ball and doing semi good and instead we of playing better they go sombra because they know she's the most oppressive to him. I'm not upset about counter picking I'm upset that even if you're above average at ball the enemy picking sombra will completely make you about below average.

[@tomnilan7318]

Unbelievable that people at blizzzard getting paid money think that sombras hack doesnt need more counterplay

[@Freakbob28]

She needs to be removed

[@fudeezyrogers1297]

Y'all just need to get better and step your awareness up. If there's a Sombra, watch the backline and keep an eye on her main targets. You gotta bait her out then punish her. Simple

[@whateverusername]

@@fudeezyrogers1297 bait used to be believable

[@nejikuchiki_7047]

​@fudeezyrogers1297 nah, she's still unbalanced. Permanent invisibility, the fact that she can hack multiple health packs for far too long, and they don't even come back when she dies immediately, her hack stopping all abilities and it's not like she has to aim it, can't hear her footsteps until she on you, free escape/chase tool, boosted movement speed...even if u watch ur back it's not enough most times. She's busted and braindead. But she is fun

[@ALPHA_OMEGA3]

I'm about to Uninstall the game cause of these devs, finally don't care enough anymore

[@charKT-7461]

Sombra is such well-designed hero, with a kit that feels fair and honest. when you get hacked, you really go: "man, my mistake. that was my fault!"

[@Wombatsgone]

“Fair” means that it’s fair for sombra to literally be able to cancel every single engagement that he makes in this gameplay? He’s not making a mistake by engaging, that’s how ball works.

[@whateverusername]

"Damn, I really should have spotted the invisible person over there!"

[@charKT-7461]

@@Wombatsgoneyes, it is very fair and engaging design for her to effortlessly disable you by holding a button, as is her being invisible while doing it. truly a skill issue if you get hacked. she just outplayed you

[@arronalt]

​@@Wombatsgone(psst, you're missing CharKT's tone)

[@Wombatsgone]

@@arronalt Ah. Ok, I’ll shut up now.

[@vibrated]

So many games are like this, entire team of heroes that stop you from playing the game

[@Zexinninjamode]

Yep, and as soon as you swap they all swap too

[@saswag2004]

Sombra,Bap,Zen,kiri and Lifeweaver

[@OdemitidoMrOk]

​​@@saswag2004 Actually zen is a fair hero, he's a goddamn Glass Canon with zero mobility or escape options

[@saswag2004]

@@OdemitidoMrOk except he can orb you across the map with no risk and you lose 25% of your hp

[@OdemitidoMrOk]

@@saswag2004 It's not that big deal, just respect discord and find a window to dive him and erase his existence from the game... Or just ask for help, OW still a team play base game

[@stottpie]

That streets phase high ground attempt needs to be made into a succinct tweet and go viral

[@blackshadows6019]

I laughed my ass off on the second point attack. Literally infinite CC.

[@The_LightArrow]

ah yes the classic, hack > sleep > doom punch > hack > cass nade.

[@anthonydenino9109]

This rework showed a blatant lack of understanding of what’s actually wrong with ball. Giving him shout doesn’t help you play with your team either

[@thesickbeat]

calling this a rework is like calling windows 11 a new operating system

[@Kylo27]

I mean he’d actually have to use the new shout.

[@maxmoch6044]

only that shout gives you instant hp AND SPEED and your team too. with ball you need to roll into 5 players, press e, dont get cc what is a challenge for itself and then go back to your team to give them the hp and you loose all of your shield and the best part is that nobody even notice it. i testet in in diamond and it changes absolutly nothing at all. Just shows how few they understand from there own game.

[@thijmstickman8349]

Their last tank designs have been roadhog rework, mauga and ball rework. All display a blatant lack of understanding of the problem with tanks who cannot respond to disables

[@unhinged135]

Blizzard is so obsessed with "character identity" that they refuse to rework characters in a way that would actually change they way they're played. it's infuriating

[@jayes13]

cant lie yeatle this is the most painful game of overwatch ive ever seen, the fact you had the mental fortitude to not smash your computer after getting hacked slept and booped a million times is genuinely impressive

[@tehDmez]

I remember when they said they announced they basically wanted to remove CC from DPS heroes in OW2 then instead they gave Sombra a quicker cast time, less ability to abuse interrupted hacks, and made her significantly more braindead to play. At least in OW1, the Sombra players would get clapped if they didn't have a significant amount of time into the hero.

[@slikkadalikka]

They've never commited to "Removing CC" from overwatch while Ana still has sleep dart. The very first hero ever added to the game still has an infinite ranged zero fall off stun on demand

[@timothywang7245]

@@slikkadalikka Ana takes skill

[@KingOfNebbishes]

@@timothywang7245 Sleep dart is bigger than a Hanzo log and they typically shoot it at a barn sized tank from five feet away. Not much skill in that.

[@Savevade]

It atleast still takes aim. Shit Ana's can miss, shit sombras can't and there's no cool down if they miss

[@whateverusername]

They also reduced the number of tanks in the game, effectively doubling the amount of CC that a tank has to deal with. And they didn't even really lower the CC that much in general, they just lowered the number of stuns and replaced them with slows, hinders, or boops instead; and for a tank like ball, getting booped is effectively the same as getting stunned because it ruins his entire engage. We were supposed to have less CC in OW2 but honestly for tanks at least it feels like even more than before.

[@Ambussing]

I miss 6v6 ow, hammond has a brilliant design it was so fun to play him at ow1. Now we don’t have 2cp and have single tank, the role that ball has not been designed for. I would make him invulnerable to CC for a 5-6 seconds after ult, so he could counter abilities. But it’s lame, I hope devs will come up with something, watching this is just depressing

[@donovan4222]

If there was another tank to hold a frontline so you could flank on ball, they wouldn’t need to change his design. Ball fits perfectly in 6v6

[@giojo0000]

Ball was actually the sole reason I got hooked into Overwatch. After learning the game Im more of a support player now, but I do miss the times playing ball wasn't a throw pick

[@tomn4483]

i think he could be hugely improved if hack or stuns didnt take him out of ball form

[@ShinGallon]

6v6 > 5v5 I'll die on that hill.

[@nixsnowsong6732]

Ball was made for 6v6 but that ship has sailed. We're stuck with 5v5, have to learn and adapt

[@fncyfx]

either sombra has to become a hard F-tier hero, or we go back to 6v6 and rebuild from there until one of those things happen - tanking will be a dead role. you should not be able to completely shut down the "most impactful role in the game" by holding right click in their general direction while being invis whole match

[@awaspow]

watching you attack on second made me lose my mind holy shit yeatle you have the mental of the gods i wouldve started tweaking

[@harleyemmerson979]

so real, id be flaming so hard, basically a full team of counters ;-;

[@enter4none]

Devs basically turned Ball into a platform game character on a FPS game.

[@ecclecticsayonce5131]

thats always what he’s been

[@Nana7Evn]

Enternal Invisibilty exist on a fps, thats.how u make an unbalanced mess. Rip ow2

[@ecclecticsayonce5131]

@@Nana7Evn nah it’s 5v5, another tank to make space and take cooldowns would fix ball instantly

[@redvillager9756]

​@@ecclecticsayonce5131 so true!!!! But they refuse to bring it back 😔

[@Nana7Evn]

@@ecclecticsayonce5131 yep playing off tank, was an unique experience an very fun original idea. Miss ow

[@spacejambluray2591]

Didn’t fix doom didn’t fix sombra didn’t fix hog didn’t fix ball, can’t wait for the reaper rework

[@donovan4222]

I do actually think they improved doom pretty well and he fits better as a tank. Dps doom was kinda un fixable

[@christopherwilson5300]

The last 3 yeah but doom is much easier to balance than before

[@donovan4222]

@@christopherwilson5300 doom tank would be great in 6v6

[@christopherwilson5300]

@@donovan4222 definitely, flanking would be easier and u could combo grav and his ult, etc.

[@fuwameanssoft]

Tank Doomfist is honestly so much better than DPSfist it’s not even close

[@joshuastringer8752]

i didnt event make it two minutes in and the sombra just standing there holding hack from stealth constantly was making me die inside.

[@anomanderrake69]

It’s wild to me that a character literally named WRECKING BALL has next to 0 agency. Even when in fireball mode. Get Lucio booped, flailed, hacked, slept, hindered, etc. and all of those things take little skill to pull off (except for maybe sleep dart).

[@saswag2004]

In my opinion, sombra is everything a hero shouldnt be. Hyper mobilty + insane CC + Burst damage with Virus. 3 things that make any hero insanely unfun to play against. Combine this with the fact that hack can proc through walls and doesnt need aim and EMP being easy to land and impossible to counter while being an instant fight win makes sombra so unfun to fight. Did I mention she is invisible ?

[@Fondofmelobster]

EMP and hack cancel ults too btw

[@saswag2004]

@marionem6163 can't ult without baiting the 6 second 0.65 cast time 15 meter range auto aim ability that locks you out from playing the game from an invisible hero that can be everywhere. Yikes.

[@Trulman03]

Haha

[@narcodixyadigg781]

She's not really hyper mobile, though. Her translocator is very telegraphed, and if she whiffs virus, her damage really isn't that high. Even then, you can outheal it in a lot of instances. Can maybe make a case for normal hack not countering ultimates but letting EMP do so. Otherwise, she's fine imo.

[@hooparainbowbraceypkmonand7862]

​@@narcodixyadigg781id agree if her invis wasnt infinite making it almost impossible to predict a hack against a sombra with even slightly a brain. They can just sit in back line watch you use cooldowns hack and kill, then get out without being able to even react to her

[@GamesCooked]

Well played dude really enjoyed this game play" sleep shoot hacked sleep hacked hacked sleep booped sleep booped hacked sleep shoot "

[@interrupted_reverie]

their changes need to be specific, for example : make sombra hack not deactivate ball form , make ana dart not stun ball while in rush mode etc etc ... you dont always have to buff a hero , sometimes you have to do specific tweaks

[@stottpie]

Yes

[@maxmoch6044]

absolutly yes. finally someone who gets it

[@whateverusername]

For real, like why hasn't this change been made already? It makes no fucking sense at all for hack to take Ball out of ball form entirely, his ability is to SWITCH forms so shouldn't it just stop him from changing while he's hacked? That's the way it works with Ramattra's Nemesis Form, but for some reason Blizzard likes the fact that one of the most skilled tank heroes can be made unplayable by the most braindead hero in the game. Is it really not enough that he gets knocked out of grapple and can't use shields during it? I seriously don't get how this ability interaction was ever a thing in the first place.

[@nullnull629]

They r too lazy to

[@slandergames9494]

I get why they don't want to go that route but hey this game is been out for years. The people that still play still like it to some degree. Plus there's alot of different heroes and abilities. Sometimes certain abilities make the game a bit too unfair and isn't attributed to just normal counter play. It's ok to do character with specific nerfs / buffs in that case. If anything if ball had invulnerablility to only cc no damage reduction or anything while in fire that would probably be all he needs

[@beingbag2606]

I love how the devs were like "uh oh this reduced grapple cooldown might give ball some options if he gets hacked or hindered. We had better make sure that never happens"

[@cadegreen7803]

I think making him CC immune during fast roll would give him way more options and out playability against his counters

[@Vinnare]

Fr, if Mauga can get full CC invulnerability during charge, then Ball should be allowed something to alleviate CC when it's his #1 counter

[@mayuwu4408]

YEAH!! Having to time your fireball (with Retract this is more flexible) for when you're about to be CC'd to get the Unstopable status would genuinely be such a cool way for Ball to outplay CC!! (I feel like Doom and Rein could also use this too >.> lmao)

[@saswag2004]

Immunity has never worked. It's never been the answer and never will be. 6v6 is the answer. But I guess ruining the Game for tank players is more profitable for blizzard

[@cagxplays9602]

@@Vinnare They cant even give it to rein, they wont give it to ball, the devs are very unintelligent.

[@NeekOW2]

I think Sombra's hack cooldown needs to be increased. Too high value for something that doesn't require mechanics.

[@Zipperskull_]

Definitely agree

[@myseglis]

I don't know how you're not going insane at 2:50, this was the most painful minute of Overwatch I have ever watched

[@bigfudge2031]

because he has gone numb to it because it happens so often.

[@mattevans4377]

Meanwhile, if Bastion gets stunned, he can just keep on minigunning......

[@Cmoi-_-]

meanwhile, if pharah get hacked, she can just keep flying meanwhile, if lucio get hacked, he can just keep wallriding meanwhile, if ramatra get hacked, he can just keep on nemesis form meanwhile, if hammond get hacked, he can't just keep on his ball

[@unluckyseven04]

i cant tell if thats ironic but last i checked pharah couldnt fly and lucio couldnt wallride

[@mattevans4377]

@@unluckyseven04 Meanwhile Bastion can in fact keep minigunning

[@unluckyseven04]

@@mattevans4377 okay?

[@mattevans4377]

@@unluckyseven04 Maybe it's redundant, but just showing I'm speaking fact and the other person is full of baloney

[@nazarenomilohanich4883]

Shocking, ball as a single tank will always be trash unless you make him insanely op. The mind wanders thinking on how one could fix this whole "tanking sucks" issue...

[@maxmoch6044]

nah thats just wrong. they just arent trying. or when was ball ever op in ow2?

[@Freakbob28]

Remove sombra

[@Savevade]

I think season 5 or 6. There was a small amount of time when orisa, Sombra was shit and balls ult got buffed. But then they buffed orisa, Sombra and nerfed ball ult

[@cuppy1199]

@@maxmoch6044 Ball was very strong for about 3 weeks in season 6 if i recall properly, they instantly nerfed him due to support players whining

[@pinkmann8399]

@@cuppy1199it always comes back to support players, doesn't it

[@LateCloser]

This video should be required viewing for the entire "balance team".

[@greatwhitnorth]

Blizzard needs to see this to understand the problems Ball has. No video I’ve ever seen illustrates it as well as this

[@cagxplays9602]

see it to understand it? They wouldn't understand it even if you implanted the information directly into their brain.

[@themccman]

I’m convinced the devs don’t even play their own game half the time. “Let’s give wrecking ball a bunch of buffs that don’t alleviate any of his pain points!”

[@mattisjouy392]

these devs are fuking idiots

[@waferbarr]

"Sombra is only annoying for low elo players"

[@mentlegen3887]

"Just bait out her hack whilst she's sitting 10m away in cover from the objective, duh"

[@cagxplays9602]

@@mentlegen3887 dont forget the fact that shes completely invisible XD lemme just quickly go bait out the player i didnt know was there because she could be literally anywhere else.

[@Solovier]

The thing that I hate is, when I play other heroes I just do what the hero is meant to do with minimal technical or strategy. But with BALL, I have to be so focused to not miss a single thing and is too much to keep in mind, many "IF" or "WHEN" I would do something. All of this just to do the minimum and sometimes get trashtalked anyway. But is when I lose or win and I see one "fuck you ball" in the chat, THAT, that makes my day.

[@sherazuki]

It's almost like some tanks were designed as secondary tanks. And then they did 5v5. Nice one blizz, I'm totally feeling like I'm playing Valorant.

[@cagxplays9602]

That sounds like you went from bathing in boiling water to jumping into a volcano.

[@thenojo3246]

6 attempts later, your first slam. Thats insane.

[@knyt0]

There are multiple heroes in the game with two different forms, like bastion and ramattra, but ball is the only hero that gets their form changed by sombra hack

[@greasydan9805]

Society if Adaptive Shield made a hamster ball shield around you instead of just giving overhealth.

[@saswag2004]

Damn. Look at yeatle face tanking all the cooldowns and damage. I wish there was a frontline tank that could cover the weakness of ball. Almost like 2 tanks is how it should be played.hmmmmmmmm

[@KingOfNebbishes]

"CC should be the defining feature of tanks." Proceeds to keep almost all the CC from OW1 in game and then adds some extra.

[@cantbelieve5231]

It sucks that there are no other roles that were built specifically to help Wrecking Ball by baiting and taking cooldowns, cc, and the actual thousands of damage the enemy produces per second for the team. Man imagine if there was another role meant for that.

[@cagxplays9602]

this sounds revolutionary, maybe we should tell blizzard.

[@cantbelieve5231]

@@cagxplays9602 we did. Unfortunately we got Overwatch 2 as our reward.

[@crashingflamingo3028]

They should consider adding a second tank, that would make offensive tanks like Wrecking Ball viable...

[@Hoboslayer679]

Almost as if the tanks were made to have a partner to help synergize with and fix their shortcomings 🧐

[@jimmyneutron2329]

6:57 we need 2 tanks again bro cant even have control over when he fire balls

[@jerod4036]

Well that was our rework. Time to wait another year before they attempt anything again.

[@cagxplays9602]

year? I'll give it 6.

[@kay-g326]

honestly this is the single biggest reason im sad about losing the second tank. theres still a fuck ton of cc, and now its all directed at the one tank. feels awful to play and there's no way to fix such a fundamental flaw without adding back the second tank and rebalancing

[@Zexinninjamode]

That streets Phase just trying to touch high ground, I felt that in my soul. I've literally stopped playing ball for the last 6 months because he has negative impact.

[@alexerhardt662]

One way to help Ball tremendously (and Doomfist) would be taking Mirrorwatch Sombra and putting her into the live game. In other words, rework sombra to be a support Dps, not a "Youre not allowed to play the game" Dps. Thats just one fix but still, would be 10x Healthier for the game In my opinion. But I can still see people picking her against ball to steal his Med Packs, still wouldnt be as bad as getting hacked and instantly Exploding.

[@Taexer]

The first 3 mins is EXACTLY why i quit playing ball and went back to DVA. Its so miserable. HACKED, flail, HACKED, mei slow, HACKED, Boop, HACKED, Sym turrets, HACKED, Javelin, H A C K E D.

[@Hoehlenmaensch]

I dont understand their philosophy with sombra. Hack technichally isnt too bad, but there is practically no counterplay for tanks. So we just make hack more easy to get off and not have to unstealth first... Also no one talks about how venture gets shields instead of overhealth for no reason. Can someone with contact to a dev please speak up about that inconsistency!?

[@khaledm.1476]

Shield tanks can flash their shield to interrupt hack, dva can spy check pretty well, some tanks actually don't care that you hacked them like rammatra

[@magythemage]

@@khaledm.1476 hack cast time is very short, not always can you react fast enough. And even then, due to hacks grace window at the end where even if you break LOS it still goes off it can be VERY Difficult to stop. Best way to fix sombra is remove her ability to hack while invis.

[@subparpt]

Maybe make Sombra hack take slightly longer on tanks? An addition to the passive or something?

[@weasyll_]

Because shields give full ult charge and overhealth gives reduced ult charge. Venture would be so much more annoying if they were constantly getting overhealth

[@Vastspartan]

Remove hack. Implement the mirrorwatch ability by hacking your teammates

[@marvynjeanbaptiste3206]

This is THE biggest act professionalism i've ever seen. To keep a straight face while going through all that is an actual feat. Not even kidding I probably would've cried going through all that. It's already happened once

[@jeffreyyu1593]

4:22 that ana took literally zero damage from a direct piledrive lol

[@BallotBoxer]

The -shout- squeak is a good idea, but it doesn't address Ball's major problems. Patch notes: Wrecking Ball's name has been updated to "Punching Bag" for more accuracy.

[@bigfudge2031]

getting hacked or hindered should just end your grapple, it shouldn't take you out of ball form. Bastion and Ram remain in their respective forms when they are hacked/hindered, so I don't see why there isn't continuity.

[@ShubhankarChawla]

Its like they only know how to balance COD type characters. When it comes to unique ones like Junk, Ball, Doom, Reaper, Hog the devs just shit their pants and throw in random abilities to see what sticks.

[@TheMacco26]

New passive idea: when shields are applied, Ball can't be hacked. Bum! Solved.

[@hooparainbowbraceypkmonand7862]

Nope any comp with brig or any comp with mcree still bones you on top of the fact that you still need to be REALLY good at all to do well.

[@donovan4222]

New idea: bring back 2nd tank! Lol

[@zc8673]

As a Sombra player, I think it's so cringe when a sombra spends the entire round just hacking the tank. It's not even fun for the sombra player, and it's just the most lame and low effort strategy

[@umadbro_gmod]

It's almost as if the devs don't even play the game and just watch streamers lol This "rework" has done nothing to help ball

[@Malxer]

You know why this happens. Too much CC. Remember at the start of OW2, devs said only TANKS would have CC except Ana's sleep? Yeah right. CC cooldowns are too spammable for solo tanks. And they didn't keep their promise on "only tanks being able to CC". As they do with all their promises, they lie.

[@Tech_guy10]

2:03 legit Sisyphus moment 😂 I usually play ball until they switch to a counter, in other words, I don’t play ball (:

[@Paul-zh2jp]

i'm getting second hand anger watching sombra just sit in stealth and wait for the hack. sombra losing hack would be such an improvement to everyone's experience. i hope the mirror watch's support sombra is something they're considering.

[@stottpie]

Fireball should be like mauga charge, where you are immune to cc

[@cuppy1199]

So i wasnt the only one who thought the rework did nothing, I feel like its the same issue as the hog rework, nothing got done.

[@dr.downvote]

Hacked, hindered, slept, stunned…. The cc is strong with this one!

[@Nooter_]

watching this was actually super good, despite the challenges you prevail, wp and hopes for a true ball rework in our future

[@Zkeleton969]

Comedic timing of happy hamster vs sad hamster

[@djamesconner]

Im not a high ranked player but id love to see them test an adaptive shield change that breaks tracking from enemies no nade, hack, visor ig. As much as i dislike ability denial, seems to be the only direction.

[@Primal_Echo]

Remember when they said they wanted to remove how much CC was in the game? Lmao 😂😂😂

[@lunarro7]

they specifically meant hard cc, smartie

[@Primal_Echo]

@@lunarro7 ??? Oh yeah? Then tell me why when I play ball I get doom punched, sombra hacked, slept, whipshot, and hindered all within 5 seconds of EVERY SINGLE DIVE??

[@Primal_Echo]

@@lunarro7 what EXACTLY did they remove other than mei freeze? Cause Cassidy essentially has his flashbang back. And sombra still has hack. Shatter is back to 3 seconds. Wdym "tHeY mEanT hArD cC"???

[@Primal_Echo]

@@lunarro7 and playing against mei now is arguably worse because at least before, there was a small window where you could escape with grapple after u were frozen and it wore off. Now there is no lockout window so the slow doesn't go away until you get out of her range. Which is much harder now.

[@lunarro7]

@@Primal_Echo wow I don't even think you could even comprehend an intelligent argument.

[@Atomicpowerz]

The ball should remain immune to crowd control while using shields and when it fireballs. So it whould be a real rework. He should also take more damage from his main weapon

[@finn4240]

Litterly one of the best ball players in the world and even he cant find much fun or even any dopamine in this hero..

[@ohm_ow1726]

Man you inspired me to be a ball main back in the day. looking at those roll outs and tiny tech bits you do, I'm missing how ball used to play out in OW1 and I was good but I never really got the chance to grind to become a top ball player because I didn't have that much time to play back then. Since 5v5 ball is just miserable even if you outbrain the enemy team your either doing nothing or you end up being a target dummy anyways. the games where you totally outplay the enemy shouldn't feel so bad. other heroes are objectively even less fun to play but you achieve the same goal with less much effort. that's just wrong.

[@mdgeist70]

This is brutal. The absolute state of this game. I would love to have the game i actually bought, back.

[@frankrevare4405]

These changes are like if blizzard changed ball’s weapon spread or something. So insignificant

[@Vika-xc6wt]

Bro yeatle's deadpanned face after he gets hacked into hacked into booped by the brig into slept antied into hack...... How tf is anybody supposed to play this hero LMAO

[@cagxplays9602]

You dont, you just yell "hey look at me guys, look at me, im over here, im tickling you", as your team either kills things or dies instantly.

[@Ryniano]

This just makes me not want to rank up so I can actually play my character 😂

[@cagxplays9602]

Even in qp, 90% of the time the enemy insta swaps sombra after one death, ranking up doesnt matter.

[@Ryniano]

@@cagxplays9602 its less about sombra, like sure she counters hard but I can still play into it. Looking at this game the enemies are so good that brig boops him down any time he tries to engage, supports help out any time he slams, dps are bursting him everywhere, it just seems impossible to play from his POV

[@cagxplays9602]

@@Ryniano None of that is really an issue for a good ball player besides brig obviously (her cc). Cc is the biggest problem for ball, most hard counter cc abilities use very little skill, whilst ball has to implement insane levels of skill to outplay the insta kill cc buttons that the entire enemy team has.

[@Ryniano]

@@cagxplays9602 you can rewatch the video i guess because all of that is a problem for every ball player, even yeatle

[@cagxplays9602]

@@Ryniano you've missed the point though, none of that actually matters if you had counterplay to stuns and didnt get chased around by an invisible character that stops your abilities. You could actually tank and do damage if you werent chain stunned every 2 seconds... How does this not occur to you?

[@thunderball6908]

Random compliment Yeatle, but you have a very clear, concise, and pleasant voice.

[@ToddHowardWithAGun]

How is hacking still in the game? Wasn't OW2 supposed to remove CC's?

[@charliebartlett5768]

Although I hate Ball as a hero, i agree that the prevelance of Sombra and McCree makes it really hard to olay mobility characters in general. Just constantly stunned and hindered by really low skill abilities.

[@greatwhitnorth]

I laughed out loud when the Brig poked out from the top of the stairs just to give you another boop before running away. Sure why not, just spent the last 2 minutes perma cc’d, throw another one in lmao

[@AscendedBeyond]

Its almost like ball was designed to he a secondary off tank and his kit literally doesnt work as a main tank and is too easily countered

[@mikejowan3340]

Abilities shouldnt stop entire playstyles of heros. Hack and punch shouldn't take ball out of rolling.

[@2LeggedSpider]

they either need to giga buff every tank to be uncounterable or go back to 6v6

[@mentlegen3887]

I dream of an environment where locking in a hero means you play em till the end of the round or match

[@CrazyKevin22]

@@mentlegen3887That’s an awful idea cuz what if the enemy picked Zarya and you picked Dva? You would be screwed before the match even started

[@mentlegen3887]

@@CrazyKevin22 Zarya has no movement abilities can't do anything about higround and has limited resources for mitigation. She is not this mythical hard counter that renders dva useless. Also my idea I s silly cause it treats the symptom of the tank meta (the fact that the game feels unfun on tank) but not the cause (TANK balance is messed up). So I agree that it's a bad idea

[@skirtsnake8808]

One must imagined ball players happy

[@deathbombs]

Just give ball some rocketlaunchers

[@thatfrog9154]

Balls only use is to take cooldowns. The only time you have fun on ball is the first minute of the game. After that, the enemy team goes Hog cass and sombra.

[@elhubro2386]

after playing and quitting overwatch every season, maybe more playing tank, i m all in on samitos take... 5v5 is bs and i m personally want back dps doom

[@RandomGamerCory]

In a shocking twist. Off tank flank tanks just dont work in 5v5 but work in 6v6 with a main shield tank

[@SidewaysGts]

@2:05 sums up Ball and tanking in general right now. Ill just get up here-HACKED. Okay maybe this wayPONCHED Maybe if i come up toWHIP SHOT One more for the ol college trHACKED AGAIN HINDERED Anas top left- Lest change angleSLEEP Blizzard "Were toning down CC in OW2 guys :D" Also blizzard: "Psych!" I genuinely dont think the problem is with ball- I think the problem lies entirely on how much god damned CC there is. You can literally go against teams where out of the 5 enemies, 5 will have a means to straight up disable your abilities.

[@shenaniglenns3981]

i bet this sombra is having a lot of fun standing with her team on high ground waiting for you lmao

[@tangramman]

*4 BILLION VIEWS IN 7 NANOSECONDS* *HOW IS HE DOING IT*

[@taupi5246]

This game should be shown to every team 4 employee It says more than any essay could

[@dnkypnch7442]

Yeah he’s not great. It sucks that you have to put sooo much work in playing ball to get very little value. I love wrecking ball I’ve got over 1k hours on him but he’s just not good right now.

[@davidschwartz3200]

Reduce balls health from 775 - > 500hp. Make adaptive shields a zarya bubble. Hero solved and balanced. For all of you complaining that you can't chain cc him 5x in a row, learn to aim.

[@lunarro7]

lmfao. don't hire this man.