Forget the 797 - bring back the pocket rocket of the air, the 757, the best airliner ever built!!!
@hansjoachimdammer125513 күн бұрын
How in hell are they going to pay for the development costs, anywhere between 20 to 25 Billion USD? They are not even cspable built the planes they have in their order books?
@neilpickup23713 күн бұрын
There may be a desire for a true 757 replacement, but insufficient demand for one. On the vast majority of routes where a 757 is, or was used, the A321 and its variants are more than capable of replacing it. Not only can they replace it, but they can do it far more economically, with a wider cabin and the option of a containerised hold. I suspect that when, or even if Boeing produces anything to replace the 757, it will not be a true replacement, but something far closer to the A321. The demand for an aircraft to fill the gap for an aircraft capable of 'hot and high' operation where the 757 excels, and short runway performance on the few remaining runways that haven't been extended since the 757 was launched is probably in the low hundreds at best, rather than the thousands for the A321, or anything similar to it.
@GoalHornGeek12 күн бұрын
@@neilpickup237 this is correct. Plus, since the 757 has been out of production for years, they’d still need to start the program from scratch essentially. New supply chains and everything. To sell a new aircraft of that capacity, it needs to have a longer range like 6500 nmi. They can’t really do that with the limited engine options for the 757 and its older aerodynamics design
@drjojo462412 күн бұрын
Long haul in the flying pencil was absolutely the worst experience ever. Pilots might have liked it, passengers crammed in the back liked it a lot less.
@neilpickup23712 күн бұрын
@@GoalHornGeek Agreed. However, even if the production line had been mothballed and supply chains could be in place immediately, the additional weight of the 757 would make it difficult for it to compete with the very much lighter Airbus.
@johnhinston9587 күн бұрын
After years of miss management, Boeing has no room for error now. They really need to come out with something revolutionary.
@johnwilton18077 күн бұрын
Nothing new here. I fell for clickbait. Complete waste of time.
@seanferguson85007 күн бұрын
Redesign the 757
@rostyk657 күн бұрын
Absolutely! No need for a new line. Redesign 757. Probably best plane ever!
@raymason57799 күн бұрын
Regarding the height of the landing gear, why can’t they develop an adjustable landing gear that accommodates the larger engines but after landing lowers itself to the standard height? The engines may be just above the ground but what does that matter when the plane is parked?
@PeriChicDE12 күн бұрын
How about solving the issues on the current planes first?
@FLIGAVIA12 күн бұрын
Agree, they should do this first!
@michaelpanzarella749010 күн бұрын
@@PeriChicDE this video is fake . There is no 797 even planned
@swlee425110 күн бұрын
Are they sure not to compromise the safety against cost?
@jdf1stats13 күн бұрын
CLICK BAIT ! Boeing annonced that it won't be making anything anytime soon. They already have too much on their plate. Watch Simple flying, they're serious.
@jackg722510 күн бұрын
I like the 787!
@FLIGAVIA10 күн бұрын
same
@josephmalone25311 күн бұрын
Very ambitious! Huge engineering challenge that Boeing is up to the task. Very excited to see what airplane Boeing builds.
@michaelpanzarella749010 күн бұрын
@@josephmalone253 this video is fake , there is no 797 . They have stated they will not build
@mikeprezioso924210 күн бұрын
With all the senior level engineers they laid off (in an effort to reduce costs) who will design a new airplane?
@rayadams56067 күн бұрын
@@mikeprezioso9242 Retirement is more of an issue. It’s industry wide.
@tylerduchesneau12 күн бұрын
If they start now. Maybe in 15 years they will have a new plane.
@michaelshore230012 күн бұрын
Not if 777X is any example
@memochavez69410 күн бұрын
What can we expect? Landing gear that doesn't work. Doors that fly off at 30 thousand feet. Computer system jams, etc. etc.
@tunkunrunk10 күн бұрын
killer computer that pushes the plane down , composite fuselage that melt like ice , but still nothing for passengers survival . why don't we just keep on building the same planes we've been flying for decades now ?
@KlausErmecke13 күн бұрын
Once again: There is NO active "797" program at Boeing! Boeing has not yet published the FY2024 financial results. When they do, it will be a rude and painful awakening for all those fan communities who still dream about all those fancy futuristic development projects they hope to be carried out.
@paulreynolds700012 күн бұрын
The reason everyone says Boeing designed a "bad" 737 landing gear is because it was designed for a Pratt JT8D engine used on 737-200, 727 and Dc-9's of the time. No one in 1970 anticipated the 737 lasting as long as it has. 737 NG & Max would probably have never been contemplated back then.
@FLIGAVIA12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the news
@davidboyd749410 күн бұрын
Make it a bit wider and give passengers that extra 1/2”
@scottschmid23897 күн бұрын
Will there be a lowrider version and a 4x22 monster mudder off runway driving?
@Simple_man_6510 күн бұрын
I fell for it! Damn!
@praveenprasad25376 күн бұрын
747 is best .
@FLIGAVIA6 күн бұрын
Sure!
@nenblom11 күн бұрын
A couple years ago, I was flying home from my native country of Sweden on board and airbus A330 with Scandinavian Airlines. I went in to use the lavatory and I took a look around and I saw ashtrays. That plane was built when people could still smoke on board and it was still flying! Great aircraft! Boeing needs to catch up seriously.
@robertbandusky95656 күн бұрын
Let me think about this??? Single asile, medium range and reliable?..,, B757 come to mind👨✈️
@FLIGAVIA6 күн бұрын
Awesome. It is also considered the successor to the 757.
@neilpickup23713 күн бұрын
Many forget that there are no engines currently capable of gaining a sufficient capacity advantage over the A321, so new engines would be required. Had there been suitable engines, Airbus would almost certainly have stretched the A321 to the maximum the market can support. It is true that a lighter composite wing could allow perhaps another four (or five?) rows of seats in a stretch beyond the A321 with the current engines, but that would still fall short of what is expected from a Boeing single aisle replacement. It is inconceivable that those new engines would not also be available to Airbus. While Boeing may have the technical advantage over Airbus with composite fuselages, the arguably not quite as good Airbus design is much cheaper to produce - a significant factor in the A350 reaching profitability after a few hundred airframes, and the 787 failing to do so after over 1000. It should also be apreciated that as fuselage diameter reduces, the weight advantage of a composite fuselage decreases sharply. Therefore, once again, the vast proportion of any benefits will rely on the engines to deliver them.
@CarlosCastro-hg7hq12 күн бұрын
How about the 757 with new engines, new avionics and new construction materials?
@abelincoln.206411 күн бұрын
Too large & heavy. Boeing messed up developing the 757 & 767 for the same medium route market ... when the 757 has the same size fuselage as the 737 but tall tall landing gear for the larger engines. The 757 should have been designed to replace the 737 for its routes ... and the 767 (medium widebody) form medium routs and finally the 777 to replace the 747. All with the same fly by wire glass cockpit. But Boeing didn't. Plus after A320 entered service in late 80's, Boeing refused to replace the 737 as the A320 was clearly the superior aircraft , nor lighten & improve the 757 in anticipation of competition with the A320, nor did they add stick flybyware glass cockpit to the 777 .... to be used on new designs like the 787 or ... 797. Boeing just kept on messing up year after year. ... going all the way back with the 727 which has the same size fuselage as the 707, 737 & 757.
@CarlosCastro-hg7hq10 күн бұрын
@ Agreed, Boeing played the wrong cards
@RustyAimer78710 күн бұрын
Phil Condit must bear some the downfall at Boeing. However, I agree with him that the failure of the new 797 program or the continued stretching of the 737 cannot be an option. Perhaps Boeing management should stop the war with its labor and bring back the "incredibles!" Former Boeing Training Captain
@mcass7778 күн бұрын
CLICKBAIT WARNING - Before watching just google 797 and you will see there is absolutely nothing going on with the 797 program. Consider this my sacrifice to you the viewer!
@edwardf96616 күн бұрын
We travelers want to see interior pictures.
@perbilse57310 күн бұрын
Describing Embraer as "trailing" is a bit misleading. Embraer is a highly regarded and well respected manufacturer with an excellent track record, but it's a smaller company and doesn't compete in all sectors. The one "trailing" in most respects is Boeing. Very sad for what once was a great company.
@r.l.rachel74010 күн бұрын
~13 minutes long ????? Get to the point...... Everybody kow the constantly repeatedly Boeing failures ........
@engrpas12 күн бұрын
Not to avoid the "mistake of the 737" regarding its low landing gear? Back in 1970, that was one of the 737 requirements, to be able to operate in airports that had no "infrastrucure" for passenger boarding.
@grahamgreenwood349410 күн бұрын
Even if Boeing have developed plans for the 797, there is no possibility of seeing the finished aircraft ready to provide to their cutomers for a minium of ten years, more likely 15 years +. In much less time Airbus will have new aircraft built and selling around the world.
@garykullack23147 күн бұрын
good luck. 🎉
@copelanddixon6 күн бұрын
What happen to the 727. It was a very nimble plane,I use to fly on them at least twice a month.
@squash4david10 күн бұрын
They started the video making it seem like the plane was about ready to be launched, but after watching the video, it seems to be more like a concept. They had better get their act together, especially after their miss with the rocket setback.
@limaim2612 күн бұрын
Is this real or speculation?
@cesardavrieux376712 күн бұрын
Puro blablabla. Además, "nos pregunta" a nosotros (cómo "debería" ser el 797) cuando es él quien dice lo que dice...
@limaim2612 күн бұрын
@cesardavrieux3767 si, eso pensé 🤣🤣🤣
@JoeChou-jo2rk5 күн бұрын
Safety is the priority I as a customer concern.
@FLIGAVIA5 күн бұрын
Sure.
@GG_Booboo11 күн бұрын
What about the 777X? Finish that up first
@MySkyranger13 күн бұрын
NOT THE 797 FANTASY AGAIN. Look. Boeing will NEVER make an all new aircraft again. The best it will do is try and upgrade. And fail. The B787 for the next 25 years. BOEING is finished.
@dogmandan7910 күн бұрын
Long overdue, I'll just stick with Airbus from now on.
@JRB2214410 күн бұрын
Maybe they can design a CVR & FDR that transmit data to the 'CLOUD' and don't erase the last 4 minutes of a fatal crash. What a NOVEL idea?!!
@thetruthbehindplanes13 күн бұрын
They will not be making ANYTHING soon. And neither will Airbus
@bensolo941811 күн бұрын
wow and then there is just speculation. Thers is no Design jet of the 797. What an incredible waste of time.
@michaelfoster24267 күн бұрын
I’ll let it fly for a year or two before I go on it. We haven’t forgotten the 737 max
@jamesmukunta33926 күн бұрын
Its a welcome move.
@FLIGAVIA6 күн бұрын
Yes!
@Gendos_Iz_Tallina7 күн бұрын
Следующее поколение "Боингов" видимо будет с восьмёркой. Боинг 808 😊
@FLIGAVIA5 күн бұрын
Sound interesting.
@apogaeum431311 күн бұрын
When (if ever) will it get certification?
@OlegKollinnon11 күн бұрын
Take 737 max 10, make it longer, third engine upster behinde, longer wings and you have long range 797 most feul efficient too
@tom587925 күн бұрын
I hope that Boeing is letting Boeing Engineers design the plane not the bean counters
@KellyBrownlee12 күн бұрын
The 797 has been on and off so many times over the years I will not believe it until I see a real 797 sitting on the apron and flying.
@anibalalmodovar637211 күн бұрын
The 737 can operate in some smaller airports with short runways can the 797 do the same?
@robertcooper62896 күн бұрын
Stop showing all the other Boeing aircraft. Get straight to the 797. I do not like these KZbins that don’t go straight to the title. I’m not even gonna watch it till the end now.
@jamesgoodman925910 күн бұрын
Boeing has been yakking about the 797 for years. I'll believe it when I see it.
@michaelpanzarella749010 күн бұрын
@@jamesgoodman9259 boeing has said there will be no 797 as of 2 years ago
@RATBURL3 күн бұрын
747 with better engine design 😀👍🏻would be great as well
@FLIGAVIA2 күн бұрын
That would be cool!
@rickyruiz45747 күн бұрын
Nice 👍
@yossal260810 күн бұрын
Too late! Airbus already has the A321xlr in service with more than 550 orders. The aircraft usually takes up to a decade to enter service or possibly longer judging on the 777x.
@jamiedarr7 күн бұрын
Bring back the 747. Queen of the sky.
@MikeB-in1nd9 күн бұрын
Time will tell
@FLIGAVIA9 күн бұрын
Yes!
@valentindeboulogne70769 күн бұрын
As an instructor I've flown both Airbus and Boeing in the last 34 years and hands down Boeing is a Superior Aircraft.
@johnshankland1259 күн бұрын
Except for when you come to the 737 MAX . How can a company go from the beautiful, incredible 747 to the 737 MAX. THE MIND BOGGLES.
@prosanis12169 күн бұрын
Well my dear colleague, I think that we’ll both climb the ladder by flying at first the military jets, the trustworthy DC’s, Embraer’s, Fokkers, Boeings and so on. Although for me the journey went a bit faster due to a serious shortage of pilots, but In comparison, the switch from Boeing to Airbus was certainly not an unpleasant one and I can say that my last years as an aviator on the Airbus were the most enjoyable. Greetings 🫡 👨✈️
@railvlogger14398 күн бұрын
In what way?
@flynomo31487 күн бұрын
@@prosanis1216Same background. Same assessment here.
@prosanis12167 күн бұрын
@@railvlogger1439 if you don’t understand the way of flying don’t respond 🤷🏻♂️it is a kinda way of respecting one another 🙏
@RnaldFish12 күн бұрын
They need to put it in production as soon as possible airlines will love this aircraft as a passenger. I’m looking forward to being on one.
@FLIGAVIA12 күн бұрын
Yes!!
@JohnPyke-ee1cc7 күн бұрын
Speed: FAST LIKE THE CONCORD WAS!!!!!!!!!!
@LEVELGAZANOW7 күн бұрын
Can’t fly supersonic across the US
@JohnPyke-ee1cc6 күн бұрын
@LEVELGAZANOW ... The Concord did it!!!!!!! New York to Paris .. super sonic!!
@LEVELGAZANOW6 күн бұрын
@ Not over the US. New York to Paris isn’t over the US.
@arnoillig47927 күн бұрын
Boeing's reaping the rewards of their DEI policy.
@EricMartinez-f5s6 күн бұрын
Another sardine can. Why not bring back the airliners from the 1960s with leg room!
@flingwings40706 күн бұрын
Airframe design has nothing to do with legroom. Legroom is determined by seat placement which is configured by the customer.
@johnsmalley648312 күн бұрын
Did I just see through the cockpit window thru to the side windows in the passenger cabin, while it was being towed? It might have been a different model aircraft
@artfromcalifornia10410 күн бұрын
We need Lockheed Martin back to civil aviation.
@MrParcho11 күн бұрын
did they put the bolts in the doors?
@garyhughes244610 күн бұрын
The 797 sounds like a very good airplane, but if Boeing cannot bring it into service much faster than the 777X, which to this day has still not being certified, flight travel will probably be replaced by teleportation before the 797 gets certified. I do sincerely wish Boeing very good luck, they need it.
@nupagadii58347 күн бұрын
They need X-48 BWB plane ASAP to be competitive ... It will cover military expectations (Pacific theatre transport). If it would be modular (which should [alike 737/767/747]) it will save ton of finances and that how they should recoup financially .... I am also thinking about other type inter-modularity - for the future -SPACE SHUTTLE (based on X-37, but bigger) together w/ SPACE-X Rockets as boosters ....
@Dogsnark10 күн бұрын
Click bait. This plane is years away from production, let alone carrying passengers. If ever.
@bobby197010 күн бұрын
That's why Airbus has the upper hand.
@MichaelZadrowski11 күн бұрын
The current challenge is an airframe would not be to difficult to design. But the engine is a totally different problem. One of the main reasons carriers went from the NG to the MAX was the large increase in fuel efficiency. Boeing will need to make a very similar fuel jump on the 797. That engine does not exist yet.
@BloodGang562 күн бұрын
If Not Then GE!😮😊
@peceed12 күн бұрын
Don't forget that Airbus has more free names available - A360,A 370 and A390 ;)
@cathya10387 күн бұрын
They need to focus on getting the max 8 fixed before they move onto something bigger and supposedly better. 🙄
@nupagadii58347 күн бұрын
U wish to compete w/ MAX, when in root it is 1950/60 plane in root ? ? ? Good luck, my friend ....
@犬の大将2 күн бұрын
They should consider trying to reuse parts of the 787 to build the 797. Should reduce both production cost and engineering cost.
@FLIGAVIA2 күн бұрын
Great idea!
@grahamcracker6598 сағат бұрын
this is very scare, my cat sad
@billelhaffaf82016 күн бұрын
The problem today with Boeing is the “AS SOON AS POSSIBLE” then you will have things like the MAX!!!
@philipbrailey13 күн бұрын
Expected in the 1930’s. Could be a decade away.
@skirolf13 күн бұрын
Clickbait?
@infectdiseaseepidemiology259910 күн бұрын
I see little hope for Boeing’s dominance,because it is no longer dominant. Airbus is. Boeing has already blown it by their endless quest for profit, rather than *sufficient* profit but excellently engineered planes. The merger will have ended up killing Boeing, unless something drastic happens.
@alexmccabe194811 күн бұрын
They NEED to get the MAX 7 certified. They can’t even finish their current production aircraft.
@robg_6 күн бұрын
Fix the 737 max first!!
@FLIGAVIA6 күн бұрын
Sure.
@BorderTerrier-yk2hw11 күн бұрын
“If”.
@floridaactor10 күн бұрын
I look forward to my flight from Rome to New York...on an Airbus 330.
@ismaelgonzalez243213 күн бұрын
A day late and a dollar short. Think Airbus XLR...
@RDLC-pilot12 күн бұрын
What AI computer wrote this nonsense. Fuselage is not a new term for example.
@touraneindanke13 күн бұрын
Boeing shocking the industry is a given unfortunately 💔
@agustinescobar81012 күн бұрын
If then797 will come as tright seats and small bathrooms is lost. Airbus is already too small
@stephenrickwood9098 күн бұрын
This isn't news; the"797" isn't even a brochure yet, letaline any form of competition for the A220/A320/Embraer narrowbodies. The only shocking 6:30 thing about this video is that it's presented as fact rather than the pie-in-the-sky that it is.
@christopherseidl44410 күн бұрын
click bait.... 😢
@Canbugra7910 күн бұрын
I see Boeing finally find the correct path to success; 737 generation should be changed with 797 asap
@moazag12 күн бұрын
😂 😂 😂 Fly the 777x first then talk about 797
@FLIGAVIA12 күн бұрын
Maybe soon 😂
@mjoelnir189912 күн бұрын
You are talking about a Fata Morgana.
@ScottGreg-w7h10 күн бұрын
Smoke and mirrors to give shareholders the illusion that Boeing is back on track… nothing more than a convenient concept
@JohnChapman-rt1rw6 күн бұрын
Do all the hatches stay on?
@FLIGAVIA6 күн бұрын
Sure :)
@davidalexander988310 күн бұрын
So, what plane model did they paint "797" on and why? Why did they make this video? Because they haven't got anything else to do? Embarrassing.
@stevensmith207810 күн бұрын
The engines can change. Make the plane the best it can be and if a better engine comes along use that. Why is that so complicated?
@USAFRetireVet7 күн бұрын
Airo dynamics plays a big roll in what engines they use on a plan.
@stevensmith20787 күн бұрын
@ True. Yet planes are re-engined such as the DC-8, 707s (military versions) or all of Airbus’s NEOs and even the 737. Planes used to have several engine types available, such as the 747. It is a secondary consideration.
@andressanchez49822 күн бұрын
It is a video that becomes too long repeating several aspects, many times. It includes much obviuous information. Shallow level of investigation and the same things, on and on.
@FLIGAVIA2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the view!
@davec882912 күн бұрын
3:31 seconds in and absolutely zero info that says how 797 just shocked the industry. Click bait and will down vote this.
@dgkdipawiro6 күн бұрын
What about the 777 X🙊
@FLIGAVIA5 күн бұрын
We updated the latest news🫢
@user-uh6kq2wh9g13 күн бұрын
I wasted 10 minutes so you don't have to. Here's answer to what most would be interested. - No quote from current boeing executive was mentioned in this video. - No evidence that shows boeing is developing a entirely new plane was presented in this video.
@WilliamOBrien-hy4ph6 күн бұрын
Don't hold your breath.
@Richard6603186 сағат бұрын
Does this mean Boing has changed its ways and will focus on building aircraft. All the trouble over the last few decades has been caused by a foolish prioritization of share holder returns.
@jmbig7 күн бұрын
Le 797 fera bien mieux que le 737 ... En effet, à une certaine hauteur il perdra, simultanement, toutes ses portes, une partie de ses hublots, une partie de ses ailes, un moteur, et les problèmes d'humidité seront instantanement résolu car il se transformera en torche ...☝️😌