NEW BTS FAN REACTS - That was INTENSE [ Boy In Luv, War of Hormone, Danger ]

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Жыл бұрын

// In today's video, we are super excited to embark on a journey of discovery as we react for the very first time to three iconic music videos by the sensational South Korean group, BTS. Brace yourself for a rollercoaster of emotions as we explore their earlier hits: "Boy In Luv," "War of Hormone," and "Danger."
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@crystalsnow1138
@crystalsnow1138 Жыл бұрын
BTS got a lot of crap back in the day and still do occasionally for War of Hormone. Some people will say it's misogynistic. BTS got so much backlash for it that they don't perform it anymore and RM started to have his lyrics approved by women studies professors. I'm a woman and I have no problem with the song. I listen to it all the time, it's such a fun song and the video kind of reminds me of The Way You Make Me Feel by Michael Jackson.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
RIGHT!? Big time MJ feels in these songs! I mean I get it. They are great songs catchy tunes and I mean I was a teen 10000 years ago and I think I remember how I was feeling back then haha. This really does feel like that Era hey?
@RogueFire777
@RogueFire777 Жыл бұрын
The way Jin apologized over and over behind the scenes after slamming the girl into the lockers 😅
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Oh man!!! I GOTTA see this haha
@rachael02126
@rachael02126 Жыл бұрын
Also the reason people got so angry at them for this song was because of a *mistranslated* lyric that was included in an article. The fact that they still apologized for it and rm especially started working with women’s studies professors just speaks to how much they care when they could have easily dismissed it and said it wasn’t their fault. The music video for boy in love is also a parody of the popular school kdramas of the time, where it was common for the locker slamming stuff to happen
@leahwarburton
@leahwarburton Жыл бұрын
I'm a 54 year old woman, and I absolutely love War Of Hormone; and Boy In Luv. And I don't find anything offensive in either of them. The thing is too, if we are honest, teenage girls look at guys the same way. The hormones hit, and the boy nextdoor, who you practically grew up with, can start standing out to you in a whole new way. It's a natural process, and they sing about it in an honest and fun way.💜👍🏻 Besides, Suga says "Your beauty is a cultural asset. It should be protected on a national level". That doesn't sound that misogynistic to me.💜
@jillcarter5555
@jillcarter5555 Жыл бұрын
They were all still babies 🙄 but, these are some of my favorite videos. Hobi once commented that "You can see the passion in our eyes." And, Tae responded with, " that's eyeliner" 😂😂😂 Thank you for reacting 💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 omg what!?!? That's so funny! LOL.
@leahwarburton
@leahwarburton Жыл бұрын
That always makes me laugh. And it was such an instinctive reply from Tae, so fast a dryly delivered.💜😂
@snagglejag1977
@snagglejag1977 Жыл бұрын
Tae is great with the one-liners. So funny.
@katherineann8463
@katherineann8463 Жыл бұрын
Jin will be very obvious and jovial and offer to tell a dad joke from his extensive collection, but Tae's dry comments ambush you, and then his deadpan look leaves you wondering if it's meant as a joke. 🤔
@sandra1up
@sandra1up Жыл бұрын
Hobi's Hakuna Matata lives forever in my mind rent free 😂💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I just love the random lyrics in there. You know like western raps add random words. Niki Minaj does it alot but you sit there like ???? But when they boys add it in its just so funny!
@WilmaWalma
@WilmaWalma Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 It's not as random as it sounds, Hobi is talking about the fact that as long as he's with her, he'll end up in a good university (= creating a successful future for himself and therefore for her too). And he shows off that he knows his ABCs, he knows how to study basically, so she doesn't have to worry about him not getting into university (Hakuna Matata = no worries)
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
OMG! You guys know so much *faints*
@MariaChavez-ey5sr
@MariaChavez-ey5sr Жыл бұрын
Boy in Luv was mimicking some scenes (the locker one) from a famous kdramas of that time and yeah it’s not how you treat girls which is why they addressed it in the song Boy With Love with how it should be done. War of Hormones is absolutely a favorite and I don’t find it anything but a hilarious look at young men dealing with their hormones and not misguided at all. Tae and his hilarious Chaos and butt slapping the whole video get me laughing every time.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah he couldn't stop! I can't wait to check out Boy with Luv. And interesting! I don't know much about Kdramas.
@imajinallthepurple
@imajinallthepurple Жыл бұрын
This! All of it. 💜
@pslinky
@pslinky Жыл бұрын
​@@MasterGo89Jin felt so bad about the locker scene he apologized profusely to the girl, it was sweet. Personally I love boy in love & war of hormone lol. Kdramas are great, they're more melodramatic than our dramas are, & I'm totally here for it. Tae acted in a great one (I am rewatching it rn for the 4th time lol) called Hwarang . 💜
@BrilliantHuman
@BrilliantHuman Жыл бұрын
From what I've gathered from another Korean reactor and OG Armys the claims of misogyny are over blown. The translations are really bad for one like saying women are a math problem and guys just "do 'em" implying something sexual. To be more accurate it should be "solve them" as in trying to figure out the other person/women. And to say I like your front and your back actually doesn't imply body parts like it does in English, but just in general I love everything about you and the tone in is very much tongue in cheek. The music vid scenes are hard to watch from a western perspective, but from the Korean context nothing in this video was unusual for Koreans and could be seen in movies/shows/other mv of the day. There was another artists who was involved in a controversy and from what I can tell BTS was made a scapegoat and distraction. These songs came out in 2014 and it wasn't even made a problem until a year later.
@Hotchicken7
@Hotchicken7 Жыл бұрын
Aw, baby BTS lol. The evolution of these guys from here to who they are now is insane to me. Adds so much to their appeal to see where they came from and how they were willing to change/evolve.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@anara8235
@anara8235 Ай бұрын
Despite them getting hated and being called misogynists for these songs, I LIKE these song so much! They live in the depths of my heart. For me they are the appreciation of “their” loved girl. They ask what she wants, say she doesn’t need to spend money with them, calling gift (for me gift from the heavens). I love them so much💜 True representation of the crazy teenage love especially with the kdrama and vibes. Thanks for the reaction! I’m quite late but I’m watching all the reactions this night😅 Thanks again!
@sandys1890
@sandys1890 Жыл бұрын
After Jin pushed her and they said cut...Jin immediately started aplogizing
@arinaz_0613
@arinaz_0613 Жыл бұрын
As a woman, I am a war of hormone enthusiast first and a feminist second 😤😤 Kidding kidding, of course, but I genuinely love WOH, it's one of my favorite songs from their older discography and honestly in general from the boys!! I'm glad they're taking the steps to be more thoughtful with their lyrics now but I'll still absolutely appreciate the past and the absolute vibes they gave us 💜💜💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
The vibes are FIRE!!! like that can't be said enough. They work so damn hard I get it. Damn good on them for learning and growing! 💜💜💜 as a man I've HAD HORMONES... now.... now idk what the fuck I have. ROFL. mid life crisis
@Lost_in_BU
@Lost_in_BU 11 ай бұрын
Honestly i'm a 17 year old girl ARMY and War of Hormones is litterally me with men and women i can't 💀 I still don't understand why they got that much hate towards these song because they're so good ! Besides, some artistes write worse lyrics and we say nothing to them? It's just sad. Boy in Luv is just amazing i have nothing to say but Danger is my fav honestly i just love it so much and it's one of the first songs i listened to from BTS and i still love it💜 Those songs are still going to be in my heart 💜 Also fun fact, if i remember correctly, in the MV when V cutted his bangs, that was his real hair (in bangtan bombs there's his reaction)
@ArmystMagicShop-uz9yu
@ArmystMagicShop-uz9yu Жыл бұрын
It's fun watching this with you. I agree, they are more teenage angst but if I were a teenager and listening to these songs, I would still like them for their beat! They certainly show a lot of potential already for a newbie. and I'm glad that the Armys stayed with them and gave them a chance. They certainly improved a lot.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
BIG TIME couldn't have said it better myself!
@ariariadne1841
@ariariadne1841 Жыл бұрын
They said the song "War of Hormones" was misogynistic but then they released "21st Century Girls" 😎👌💜🔥🔥💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I think boy with love, 21st century girls...and another one for the next video!
@noona-bts7687
@noona-bts7687 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 and "just one day" pleaseeeeeee which was written by Yoongi while he is in hte hospital due to his appendix surgery.. btw excited for the next one!
@ArmyStay4ever78
@ArmyStay4ever78 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 yes yes plz!! lol
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. That just might work!
@snagglejag1977
@snagglejag1977 Жыл бұрын
In the Bangtan Bomb from the making of Boy in Luv, after the locker slam scene, Jin immediately bowed and apologized to the actress. It was so sweet. And in War of Hormone, JK saying he's 18 is a laugh. He was nowhere near that old. ;) Baby Bangtan were something else.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
oh for sure! I do love this era though! It reaminds me of being younger and in this stage of life... I really wish I could have been here for those days :(
@bulletproof_hope
@bulletproof_hope Жыл бұрын
I think you are the first I saw doing these 3 songs in one video. I liked that ! BTS always has and still does write from where they are in their lives ! That's why all their songs feel real! (Most of the comments from western woman for WoH are that they are not offended at all.They understand the really young man 'vibe' and say that girls are not different at that age. Me included!😁)
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Haha really? I like watching 3 at a time just feels like a more full video. And I agree with you 100%
@walkofnails2923
@walkofnails2923 Жыл бұрын
V had filming skills from the get go. Their director said he was an absolute natural at connecting to the camera
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Damn V is so creative hey?! Love his style
@SuperQueenmommy
@SuperQueenmommy Жыл бұрын
The guys recieved allot of hate for Boy with Luv and War of Hormone.. So much that from this point forward their lyrics are studied by women's professor.. Jin kept apologizing to the girl in the Boy with Luv MV for being rough, he genuinely felt terrible for having to treat her that way...💜💜💜💜 I'm a 57 yrs old Army,a woman, and I don't really find these misogynistic at all, as a matter of fact I've heard more derogatory lyrics on western music.. 💜💜 don't forget when they made these videos they were still relatively teenagers..
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
And that's exactly what I say. I've been in these feelings before and I get it. I hear that the apology is shown in some behind the scenes videos. I gotta watch those, LOL. You are 10000% correct. Music videos western and even eastern are way more intense.. it's just shocking for me to see here because I haven't seen this side of them yet. But also I'm so glad they did do this because it shows they are not robots and they can make mistakes. It's refreshing
@SuperQueenmommy
@SuperQueenmommy Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 it's way more than refreshing 😁 there are videos that show the apology.. If you haven't had a chance yet you should watch the BTS hardships video💜💜
@leahwarburton
@leahwarburton Жыл бұрын
A lot, if not most BTS MVs have behind the scenes videos, and they are interesting, and often funny. Black Swan actually has two, because it has one concentrating on Jimin's dance performance (shown throughout the MV). And it's really impressive.💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I actually reacted to black swan awhile back! I didn't know this! There is so much to just one MV!
@kitastrophicdamselofc
@kitastrophicdamselofc Жыл бұрын
I love how you reacted to their early discographies. You reacting to them does feel like going down memory lane, to that point in my life where I discovered BTS and that moment my music taste changed forever
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE that! Jamming to the oldies LOL
@hannahbanana770
@hannahbanana770 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that the people who complained about WoH didn’t really get the point of the song. My perception was that it was SUPPOSED to be a bit over the top and cheeky, because they are poking fun at themselves (and teenage boys in general). I think WoH is actually really clever and shows a level of self-awareness, which is impressive considering how young they were. Boy in Luv, lyrically, is harmless. The video can seem jarring to people who aren’t aware of the kdrama it was mimicking, or even kdrama tropes in general. I would guess most of the people complaining about either song were doing so because they lacked context or missed the point, or they were just complaining for the sake of complaining. I personally have never had any issue with either song. I thought they were cute lol.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Honestly myself... that was tame. I just think of nicki minaj anaconda ..and Im like... WELP... Moving on HAHAH. I think my reaction to this was the first time seeing them like this and I was like ooooooK I can get behind this style
@hannahbanana770
@hannahbanana770 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 Right? Considering some of the lyrics that come out of western music, when I heard people had complained about these songs, I was like “This? Really? You’re gonna be mad about THIS??”
@corgisrule21
@corgisrule21 Жыл бұрын
Baby BTS is so good 😂 Some of my FAVES!!!!!
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I love how hard these songs are! The look/the moves/ Its just so much fun! lol Im ligit living 10 years ago people
@frofrofrofro900
@frofrofrofro900 10 ай бұрын
I love that song and I am over 45 y old Army from Tricity in Poland
@kimkaykae
@kimkaykae Жыл бұрын
To tell you the truth, I prefer watching the dance practices for these three songs than the MVs. The choreos for Danger and Boy in Luv are intense, especially Danger. There's also a very funny dance practice video for War of Hormones. War of Hormones (funny): kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWG2fp2uo5l5eKM Boy in Luv: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naLdZ3SarZtmrZo Danger: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHvaeXymetSae7s
@brayonne1755
@brayonne1755 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting because these came after their 3 first releases which were big statements on society's expectations, repression and finding your authentic self. Then Bam, hormones exploded lol. Most armys don't take it too seriously, they were between 17-22 at the time 🙂 I hope your next trio of songs will be the 3 debut tracks, No More Dream, We Are Bulletproof pt 2, and N.O. Apologies if you've done them and I forgot! 💜 (If you're feeling daring offline there are hilarious dubs of these by a guy named Cameron Phillip, he's been a hardcore army since 2014, from Toronto, and vulgar as heck😂, my favorite is Boy in Luv)
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I think it's just been bulletproof I've seen. I have been wanting to check out the first debut there of no more dream. I will get there some day hahah! Yeah hormones are a hell of a drug hey?! Lol
@jsunshine9181
@jsunshine9181 Жыл бұрын
I love both of these songs, they are so bad ass. I dont care what people say about war of hormone. It's part of growth, my opinion. Ill always like that song, Us Army's know who BTS were back then and what they have become. They're all gentlemen. Thank You for this reaction. 💜🫰
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching 💜💜💜 I agree they are good songs! Hype with a young feel to them! Ive been there. Ive had my own war of hormones. I think Im still fighting LOL
@jonzgurl4ever
@jonzgurl4ever 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this gritty era of theirs! Its sad that they received so much hate over lyrics and mistranslation so now they don't really sing these anymore. You are fastly becoming my favorite reactor!
@happycia2003
@happycia2003 11 ай бұрын
the ice-cream RM🤣OMG, i start laughing whenever i see this hair style after someone said it's like ice-cream
@christianpenrose7845
@christianpenrose7845 10 ай бұрын
This cave in Spain is beautiful, I bet it sounds amazing in there. V loves old rat pack, jazzy kind of music and it shows in his style.
@WilmaWalma
@WilmaWalma Жыл бұрын
AAAAAH! The early songs are one of my favorites, I just love them so much! I'm so happy! This was a great surprise to wake up to! I just love to see their journey and progress, who they were as a group back then compared to now. And it's so fun to see you experience the transformation too! I really like RM's look during this era too! And yeah, there are people who are complaining about these early songs, and although I can understand them when it comes to the MV of Boy in Luv, I don't necessarily agree with the rest. I don't see any problem with any of the lyrics to be honest. It's just young guys singing about how it is to be young guys. Why should they censor their experiences? I love War of Hormone especially when it comes to these three songs, and I'm sad they don't really perform it live anymore, just because of the backlash. Thank you so much for the reactions! I feel spoiled now and I love it, because people usually only react to one song at a time 🤭💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I agree fully! I think that's why I was shocked to see this because I had yet to see this side of them. But also I'm starting to realize that they do have alot of deeper EVERYTHING. And I'm just here seeing it all for the first time. I love this! RM just looks... Like a leader hahaha! I'm glad this was a treat for you! I always try and watch these in 3s. Just cuz I have so much to get through and also I like how I can structure a bit of a story behind em
@yukifoxdemon
@yukifoxdemon Жыл бұрын
You've definitely got to watch the War of Hormone Halloween dance practice! Tae is dressed as Heath Ledger's Joker, Jin is Jack Sparrow, and it's just a lot of fun! Wait til you start watching live performances and more Run BTS, butt slapping is one of their favorite past times 😂
@tammarabg8174
@tammarabg8174 Жыл бұрын
Just a bit of context regarding the hate BTS received and the accusations of misogyny. BTS was not the only group or celebrity that was being criticized. There had been a gruesome murder of a young woman in a public bathroom at a public transit station. The comments from the police and politicians blew off the motive/reason the man did it, with some victim blaming thrown in. Women organized a memorial and march. They received a lot of backlash (similar to Seweol protests). This triggered criticism of how women were viewed and treated in Korea. (Especially that women wanted/needed to know that their man was the boss, including physically. Women go to university to get their Mrs. degree.) I really appreciate you recognizing and acknowledging some of the cringy moments. We in the west see the criticism as hyperbole. We blow it off with 'today we see much worse', 'it was just an attack to bring down BTS'. The misogeny accusations in Korea was the same crap my mother had to deal with in the 50s. I have a lot of admiration for BTS listening to the criticism, not dismissing it, discussing it, reading about it, seeking solutions. They realized they did not want to reinforce toxic masculinity; they wanted to uplift their fans. 21st Century Girl was part of that response. RM actively/purposefully allied himself. RM recommended in a vlive a novel called Kim Jiyoung Born 1982. Most international ARMYs do not know the significance of this recommendation from an idol in Korea. Women in Korea who admitted to reading this novel were harassed. After Irene from the Kpop group Red Velvet said she was reading it, she faced backlash from fans, including public burnings of her photocards and posters.
@mallorypaul3415
@mallorypaul3415 Жыл бұрын
Love your reactions again (not surprised tho lol)!! These videos continue to make me so happy lol Young BTS were very intense in these MVs but its so funny to see the behind the scene moments where they are silly and shy lol
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I MUST watch more BTS.....BTS LOL. Get more context that way! But for now music video wise I really did enjoy them really heavy style! I liked it!
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
And also thank you again like always. Even days like today where anything and everything went wrong..I still enjoy coming on and chilling with yall
@mallorypaul3415
@mallorypaul3415 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 lmaooo yes more BTS! haha
@mallorypaul3415
@mallorypaul3415 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 Of course!! Thank you for giving BTS a chance and putting your reactions online for ARMY and other people (hopefully future ARMY) to see
@yaniravasquez8201
@yaniravasquez8201 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching your BTS reactions!!! 😊😊😊
@MissSmartypants555
@MissSmartypants555 Жыл бұрын
Apparently "bad boys" don't wash their hands after they go to the bathroom...lol.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 you seen how they looked at eachother like.. YEP We are doing this 🤣🤣🤣
@MissSmartypants555
@MissSmartypants555 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 😂
@thegeekoutgirl
@thegeekoutgirl Жыл бұрын
5:47 random fact: it was a popular romantic trend in shows back in the day to be pushed up against the locker. in japan and apparently korea too lol. I remember it a bit but it was so long ago and I never understood it. But as others have said, Jin apologized a lot in the behind the scenes lol
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
oh interesting! See thats different cultures history right there! I had no idea!
@sandys1890
@sandys1890 Жыл бұрын
Hormone one continuous shot through most of it
@c.velosa2923
@c.velosa2923 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice to watch you. Like always army is on it to let you know the important thing you need to know. There is a series called rise of bangthan and the behind the scenes for these mv that you should watch to understand a lot of thing. Borahae🇵🇹💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I shall! Thank you so much!
@azilinthebox
@azilinthebox Жыл бұрын
The first thing that got me into BTS was RM's speech at the 2018 UN. But the first song that got me is Boy in Luv cute version. :) Thanks again for the great review. Seeing fetus BTS makes me realize again how much they've grown - personally and in their music.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Hahah glad you enjoyed! I should watch that UN speech. That would be interesting!
@nonexisting_videos1673
@nonexisting_videos1673 Жыл бұрын
I think BTS has grown a lot as artists and as people. I really like the songs’ sound but I’d rather ignore the lyrics and mvs😅
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I'm always being told to pay attention to the lyrics and this time I'm like. ON IT! 🤣🤣🤣
@kailara3342
@kailara3342 Жыл бұрын
I as a woman was not offended at all by War of hormones, it's just a fun song about teenager feelings x) As for Boy in luv, there was a time in k-dramas (and mangas too a lot) where a girl was falling in love with a bad boy that was a little harsh to her, and yeah it's not really a good thing but it was there and they choose to use it a bit wich I don't blame them for.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I think on a cultural level it has some differences also. I just thought of that. Interesting takes on it.
@ideagirl
@ideagirl Жыл бұрын
The last song. Yes. A little bit of Michael Jackson. Danger was a much loved song!
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I really liked that one. It was raw!
@chelseyc8457
@chelseyc8457 Жыл бұрын
I love all of these songs. Boy in Luv is my favorite song. Really my list of favorites are Spring Day, Friends, The Truth Untold, House of Cards, I Need U, and Airplane pt 2 for group songs. Oh! You need to react to carpool karaoke with James Corden. I think that's how a lot of us became fans. It's really cute and funny.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh good idea! Probably copywrite down to the ground here on youtube. Maybe a livestream reaction to it would be in the works.
@dollykelley8098
@dollykelley8098 Жыл бұрын
Love these great songs. Good to hear them again. It’s been a minute. 💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I love that! Where I can bring back songs for yall!!
@proudfan
@proudfan Жыл бұрын
Love your reaction ❤
@phyllisst.pierre1761
@phyllisst.pierre1761 Жыл бұрын
I've watched the Danger video many times and this is the first time I've seen the curse words in the translation.
@btshalmeoni
@btshalmeoni Жыл бұрын
Yes, same. This is the first time seeing swearing in the lyrics after🤷🏾‍♀️
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
It definitely took me off guard. Is there any other songs the swear in?
@anu5880
@anu5880 Жыл бұрын
​@@MasterGo89lots of them. Especially the cyphers by rapline. They do swear even now in their solo works. All the solo albums released recently have swear words. They don't fill the songs with swear words but do use them if they want to. RM actually starts of his album with 'f**k' actually 😂
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
@anu5880 🤣🤣 now that's my kinda man! Just getting it right out there haha!
@secretyidentity2833
@secretyidentity2833 Жыл бұрын
As a woman I have no issue with a song like “Boy in Luv”, it is just describing A high school crush (and it could be from a man or a woman). “Women are the best gift, gift” “Who said women are cold icebergs, let it go/Females that make me go crazy, they stimulate me every day” - However, lyrics like this in War of Hormone go beyond the “crush” and start objectifying and generalizing ALL women, basically idolizing and “mystifying” their nature, instead of treating them as humans, I do find it dehumanizing, it makes me feel like bc I’m a woman I’m supposed to be put on a pedestal (I never asked for) to have my beauty (as if that’s the only thing I have of value) to be admired by men. “Her hair, body, waist, legs, and areas that can’t be said
If anyone SAYS HE’s not interested in them, I’d be dumbfounded AS A MAN” - this one is a bonus one bc it means gay men didn’t exist in the BTS lyrical universe yet (this is a joke ofc, but this lyric does also kinda erase the existence of men who just aren’t attracted to women, or at very least places some heavy judgment on them for “saying” they aren’t interested). Anyways, the boys, as all of us, are human who are products of their environment (a misogynist society that teaches boys from a very young age to objectify women). I care much more abt their reaction and response once they were called out than the fact they ever wrote these lyrics. And my respect and love for them only grew from how they handled the situation, specially RMs openness in an interview they did a while back where he talks abt how he received a lot of criticism abt his lyrics regarding misogyny and it made him do a lot of self reflection abt if he hadn’t been dismissive of women’s struggles and how he talked abt them in his earlier songs. I understand many vintage (older) army don’t find a problem with the lyrics, but I see many younger army’s who did/do, that to me solidifies that we are walking towards a more critical society where this kind of language and attitude towards women, specially young girls in school isn’t normalized. Nothing but love, great reaction. Just wanted to share my perspective.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully worded! I agree with you. Personally for me it was just a shock as I'm just getting into bts and I hadn't seen this side of them yet. I like that hardcore style! As a person that understands the newer generations I get it. Personally for me... I've been there. Lol I was a teen. I was wild myself lol!
@walkofnails2923
@walkofnails2923 Жыл бұрын
What’s hilarious is in the very beginning I heard that Jungkook was originally supposed to be a rapper and J-Hope was going to be a vocalist 😁
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt that be something hey? the BTS Multiverse
@flyushkifly
@flyushkifly 9 ай бұрын
The absurdity of the WoH MV and over-the-top lyrics sure reads like satire to me.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I agree. When I first seen this I wasn't aware of this side of BTS at the time.. oh how that changed 🤣🤣🤣💜
@valm5892
@valm5892 Жыл бұрын
Danger 100% gives me MJ vibes. I truly believe he would've liked these guys. And this is WAY before dynamite and stuff which pays homage to MJ. JK and Jimin also did a dance cover to Black & White in these earlier days. There's obvious influence from the get (like the way the older songs mix this rock and pop and rap vibe, which was classic Michael)
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Thats it! yeah! I would have LOVED to see a MJ collab! Maybe in a different timeline :( But these guys really are the new Kings!
@1badlibrarian
@1badlibrarian 9 ай бұрын
Poor V cut the wig (hair) but accidentally cut his own real hair. He was hysterically devastated!
@ideagirl
@ideagirl Жыл бұрын
Jin apologized to the girl afterwards. He didn't want to do that! Yep. No one liked that rude behavior or suggestive lyrics. Never performed again! Same for next video. They passed through this phase fast. Yep. Your other commenter was right. RM got Women's studies women to approve their lyrics so they never got backlash again. They lived. They learned!
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I love that for them. It was pretty hardcore not gonna lie. I'm glad he apologized. It's also good for him! But the fashion though. 😳😍😍😍
@crystalsnow1138
@crystalsnow1138 Жыл бұрын
They've performed Boy In Luv plenty of times in recent years, it's War of Hormone they haven't performed in awhile which is a shame because the lyrics aren't even that bad. But it's their choice if they want to perform it again or not, but I personally love the song still.
@angelicadelgado3320
@angelicadelgado3320 Жыл бұрын
I like these videos and songs but I don't love them but I like to see the evolution of BTS. They have always written their songs and at that time the rap line was between 20 and 22 years old. BTS has released albums in trilogies... they were leaving the time of the school trilogy and released the album Dark & ​​wild which was their Emo period haha Although the lyrics are not that innocent, compared to the lyrics we see in hip hop in the US, it's nothing. The War of Hormone lyrics are not my favorite but I don't feel offended either... nothing to do with, for example, Reggaeton that is heard in Latin America, which does have very misogynistic and vulgar lyrics a lot of the times Thanks for your reaction. We want you to be honest with it and it is valid that these songs have not been your cup of tea. Later you will know other songs that you will surely like more, they have a bit of everything... I like about 80% of their songs... some seem good to me but not enough to be on my playlist, but they are more the ones I like than the ones I don't Regards from México 💜
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!. Oh yeah I get it though it was the time. And honestly you are very correct. When you see people in western culture dry humping the shit out of a set or dressing like they do this is TAME. I just didn't think BTS did this kinda stuff so it was a shock haha! But still great songs beat wise. And again fashion was on point!
@sharonmcneil3545
@sharonmcneil3545 10 ай бұрын
I really like all three of these songs. I know they have some questionable lyrics, but I've heard much worse. In watching the behind the scene for Boy in Luv, after Jin slams the girl into the locker, he immediately checks that she's okay. I think War of Hormones is my fav - it's just a fun teen crush. JK is only 16 in the video (he's 18 Korean age and 16 International age), so to see how good they are at such a young age is great!
@fernandanoemivaldezperez2628
@fernandanoemivaldezperez2628 11 ай бұрын
actually, war of hormone is a satirical song, making fun of the behavior of adolescents with respect to women (exaggeratedly), and justifying that same behavior with "the hormones" or "because I'm a man", etc and being a type of implicit genre of lyrics/writing ignorant people don't usually understand (for this reason, with the rain of criticism of the song, RM took measures for the future seeking to "improve" the composition of his lyrics under the supervision of an expert on the subject ). PD:Satire is a genre or literary text that can be in prose or verse and in which, with humorous or burlesque procedures, ways of being and behaving are criticized.
@Moon_aRMy1306
@Moon_aRMy1306 11 ай бұрын
War of hormone is more like a satire towards young people who blame their hormones
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 11 ай бұрын
ohhhh yeah I can see that actually good call on that! 💜💜
@RogueFire777
@RogueFire777 Жыл бұрын
K Pop idols are actually not allowed to date. So now that these boys are grown men 25-31 and should be getting married, having kids, some of the fandom is completely freaking out. So any girl they get a picture near, do a video with, have as a back up dancer, smile at... gets hate comments and worse. Plus they all have their mandatory military service too. I don't know how they're going to live any type of normal family life. If anyone will help them I would say it's going to be Taeyang (a different idol not V) he has been through all of this. He did a Suwichita episode with Suga and really has a lot of valuable insight for the guys. They did all these videos without a lot of real life relationship experience.
@RogueFire777
@RogueFire777 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGWWeYuAeLibrpo Interview with Taeyang
@crystalsnow1138
@crystalsnow1138 Жыл бұрын
Every kpop company has different rules and heck I'm sure all the groups under the same companies have different rules too based on how old they are. It's been said BTS never had a no dating rule except maybe for the first 2 years after debut which is a crucial time period for the group and that rule would be more understandable. I'm sure there are plenty of kpop artists who are dating but are choosing to keep it private and I would not blame them especially if the person they are dating is a non-celebrity. It's their private lives which is none of fan's business in the first place. But honestly when you are so busy it would be hard to find time to date let alone invest in a relationship long term, it's just not fair to them or the person they are dating. Most ARMYs don't care about their relationship status. Whether they are dating, getting married, or choose to remain single we don't care as long as they are happy, it's only the toxic and delusional fans who can't accept that BTS are grown men who more than likely aren't going to marry them one day that have a problem with it. I'm sure if the members want to get married and have families they will make it happen regardless of what some immature fans might think. Are their lives going to be 100 percent normal, probably not but they can do their best to make their lives as normal as possible if that's what they want. It will be a great cleanse of the fandom if/when they get married to see who actually likes BTS for their music and not their availability. I think of a group like the Backstreet Boys who are celebrating 30 years as a group this year and all 5 members are married and have kids so it's possible to have the best of both worlds.
@RogueFire777
@RogueFire777 Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly I was referring to Sasaengs who aren't really fans and unbalanced fans who aren't really ARMY
@yeolailian
@yeolailian Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reacting to BTS earlier songs, so are you ready to check out their dance practices for these 3 songs? Here are the links and looking forward to your next BTS reactions! :) Boy in Luv kzbin.info/www/bejne/naLdZ3SarZtmrZo War of Hormone (Real War ver.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWG2fp2uo5l5eKM War of Hormone (Halloween) kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKmonaxprt9gZ8k Danger kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHvaeXymetSae7s
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I will be sure to try and react to all of these soon!
@yeolailian
@yeolailian Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 please take all the time you need and enjoy the BTS journey!!!
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I definitely sometimes feel overwhelmed with everything I have/want to do.. but then I think damn! I sure am lucky to do this. And with so many people at my back.. I can't wait to see where this journey takes me! Thank you so much for understanding 💜💜💜💜
@angelsmilkyway4352
@angelsmilkyway4352 11 ай бұрын
These lyrics are mild by comparison. As a woman I get this song and I love it.
@bangtanjoonie1202
@bangtanjoonie1202 Жыл бұрын
what annoys me so much is the claims were all BS because there were and are way worse songs in korea and western countries so why does only bts have to change and get backlash. im glad they did and owned up to it but the attacks were always in bad faith not because people actually thought it was problematic. when you see the hardships they went through and still go through you see the patterns and how people will accuse them of anything because they dont want bts to be successful not because they care about any of the topics like feminism. also like i said there were many groups before and after bts who released way worse songs and never heard anything from anyone the hypocrisy when it comes to bts infuriates me which is one of the millions of reasons armys dont get along with kpop fandoms. because those fans know their own favorite groups did worse and yet they dogpiled bts. especially since in 2014 army was not even close to what it is today in size and we couldnt protect bts like we can now.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting takes. I agree there are way worse out there that just walk Scott free. But you are right... this was definitely attemps to take them down... For me right now it shocks me because I haven't seen this side of them yet. But for sure this is tame in comparison. Good comment here!
@SingaJay
@SingaJay Жыл бұрын
Just to add to my last comment re WoH. Coincidentally just watched a Korean American gentleman talking about this song, it's part of a wonderful series called Rise of Bangtan which I HIGHLY recommend you to watch at some stage. This gentleman actually explains EXACTLY what they meant in the lyrics. So it goes to show again, the mean attack on a bunch of youngsters out of jealousy as far as I'm concerned. I'll give you the link to that exact part, don't want to spoil the rest of the show but it will give you the right context and just what utter BS they said about the lyrics: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZOwqqVvZZdqfLc from K-OG.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Oh man... I am ligit watching this right now! I reacted to the first chapter last night!
@SingaJay
@SingaJay Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 Great minds!! 😄
@SingaJay
@SingaJay Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 PS. Don't forget the bonus and deleted scenes. Treasures, she just couldn't fit it in.
@S7aah
@S7aah Жыл бұрын
💜🇧🇷
@gyukiess
@gyukiess Жыл бұрын
personally i think the war of hormone misogyny discourse is just a far stretched excuse to hate on bts, from my point of view there is absolutely nothing wrong with the song and it simply reflects a boy going through the transitional years of turning into a teenager as well as dealing with the hormones that come with it (therefore ‘war of hormone’)
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Very well said! I agree fully!
@crystalsnow1138
@crystalsnow1138 Жыл бұрын
I was discussing War of Hormone with someone who didn't like the song because of the lyrics and one specific example they gave was them referring to girls as a gift aka an object. And I was shocked because I couldn't imagine being called a gift by a guy and being upset when there are plenty of far worse things to be called as a woman.
@gyukiess
@gyukiess Жыл бұрын
@@crystalsnow1138 exactly 😭 people just love to throw it out of proportion and make it seem hateful simply because they don’t like them, it’s weird. the gift thing had nothing wrong with it, other people MADE there be something wrong with it by taking it literally 😭
@S7aah
@S7aah Жыл бұрын
Bom dia 🫶
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
BOM DIA! 💜💜💜
@gretcheningram2136
@gretcheningram2136 Жыл бұрын
Teen vibes LOL
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
My teen vibes were pretty much on point with this. Hardcore everything. 🤣
@colettemr
@colettemr Жыл бұрын
FYI - Believe it or not, DANGER was a flop then.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Thats CRAZY! If only I had a time machine loL!
@jherrmann57
@jherrmann57 Жыл бұрын
War of Hormone is harmless compared to a lot of western songs and what was/is misogynistic about it? Up to this day I do not understand it! Western songs are more trashy when it comes to women (Rap). They had so many hurdles to overcome, they grew together and I am glad I found them when I needed them the most.
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I agree! I think from my end it shocked me cuz I didn't think they were like this. But I was wrong! And THATS what I love about BTS. They can 1)surprise me 2) this shows that they are not just industry plans that can do no wrong. They actually learned and grew from mistakes
@ericweinman9447
@ericweinman9447 Жыл бұрын
There was a sufficient number of second generation K Pop songs demonstrating angst and guys objectifying women to make the argument against BTS as misogynistic or loose lipped kind of hypocritical. That is unless you were a keyboard warrior bent on slandering BTS in an effort to clear a potential obstacle to your favorite 3 lettered concept group's success. Doing tracks which explore pubescent boys' emotions and group behaviors in working class schools in music is hardly a basis for getting fuddy duddie any more than watching it on the big screen. It is a depiction not a display of values.
@armymomot7931
@armymomot7931 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe you are describing their Boy in love and War of hormone as “Hard core & Intense Lyrics”. In my humble opinion…. These are raw, real, honest and about as INNOCENT as worldwide music can possibly be about young boys and their feelings…. I Mean Hobi’s “I’ll go and pop my pimple” 🤭. Have you Listened to Rappers explicit lyrics involving sex, p’word, c’word, drug use and women!? Even sung By Women! I’m sorry sir but respectfully I disagree and I feel this type of commentary perpetuates the narrative Army has been dealing with for a long period of time… Having said that; I respect your right to have formed your own opinions on your channel without fear of disrespectful comments! I hope i reflected my opinion respectfully as well. And yes ; they sure have grown and changed over the years!💜🙌🏻 ☺️🥹👊🏼. StayGold!
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
I am just getting into BTS currently so seeing this was my first real hit of there bad boy side. I have since recently gotten into the cyphers and seen more. And I'm sure as I go on I will see more. It's ok to disagree and wish you well 💜
@armymomot7931
@armymomot7931 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterGo89 thank you for your reply and recving my comment kindly.! I am still enjoying your journey into the rabbit hole! Many many More exciting surprises await you!! 🫶🏼
@MasterGo89
@MasterGo89 Жыл бұрын
Ofcores! Please understand that I'm not trying to push a narrative that the boys should be little forever. I mean seven explicit was sure a point where jungkook wanted to show that he's not just a kid. I see this on Twitter also as a disagreement with army. But here, I'm learning. I have also noted that there are massive cultural differences and as someone that is 2 months in. I get a better understanding from army like yourself for these issues. So I always appreciate comments because how the hell do I learn if I don't get told? Haha At the same time I always appreciate understanding and conversation :) Trust me when I say I have a long way to go and I'm glad you can enjoy my videos and have fun watching this journey 💜💜💜
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