NEW BUFFED VORA IS LIVE | Paladins Gameplay

[@nicholaswalker757]

Technically vora's dps is ever so slightly lower now. Like around 15-20 dps less, but regardless your time to kill is always going to be faster than it was previously because people are much more likely to actually die to your weapon shots now instead of the dot. Edit: And there will also be way less situations where you're fighting someone, you die, and then the dot kills them after. Instead you'll just end up killing them with a weapon shot and living. Which imo people are really underestimating how big of a deal that is. The ability to get a kill and live is quite literally, an essential part of being a flank. If a flank can't get a kill before they are killed themselves, there's no reason to play that flank.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

you are still more likely to die because you are now doing 9.2% less damage and that is before the items.

[@atari8603]

Also she gets less life steal too

[@agedgouda8809]

Tbh I didn’t have many dot trades like that in the past. They should not have traded dps or damage per cycle for front load, it does not feel like a worthwhile trade off. Just like a loss of identity, and maybe a buff against koga lol.

[@nicholaswalker757]

@@darkstalkerknight63 that's not really true. I've tested the change myself a good bit and the damage decrease isn't noticeable at all unless I'm playing vs. a tank.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@nicholaswalker757 or when they get armor plating and you see a full combo with an ability doesn't kill anymore

[@fearlessarchangel]

The increased ttk just makes champions like Maeve so much harder to deal with and the fact that people can stack Veteran with Armor Plating is just an excessive amount of survivability that simply isn't balanced. Not every champion should have access to Hp increase AND damage reduction through items in addition to their loadout cards and potentially their support. Just for reference, at 1900 Hp with 24% damage reduction, you now need the equivalent of 2500 damage to kill Maeve at base. With Veteran 1, her Hp becomes 2033 and you now need somewhere around 2670 damage to kill Maeve, not accounting for healing. Now assume Maeve goes her Hp card. She has 2150 Hp, 2300 Hp with Veteran 1, and takes around 3000 damage to kill if she has Armor Plating 3. If you're forced to buy resil when she or someone else is free to start stacking Haven and Veteran, good luck trying to win that fight, especially when they're pocketed. This applies to a lot of the dps/flank champions. Why on earth they reworked veteran to increase Hp on top of Haven is beyond me.

[@primedking]

Still love seeing you in the morning love you bro 🥹🫰🏿❤️

[@ploepiplayer6150]

I like this change because now Vora is a lot easier to kill as rei

[@bigcsbigbrother3685]

Rei will have an easier time killing vora now? How so?

[@ploepiplayer6150]

@@bigcsbigbrother3685 vora used to mostly bypass Envelop, but now that the big damage comes in a burst, envelop screws it, making Vora easier to kill with on rei

[@darkstalkerknight63]

​@@ploepiplayer6150 I am still laughing at how people think this is a buff to vora and in reality she not only got nerfed by 140 damage per combo but even more things hurt her faster

[@nicholaswalker757]

@@darkstalkerknight63 it's not 170 damage per combo less. it comes out to around 20 damage less. pull out a calculator and do the math if you don't believe me.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@nicholaswalker757 I did and it does 140 damage less now. That's just math

[@darkstalkerknight63]

her overall damage is down by 140. that is a 9.2% damage nerf. the item armor plating brings it down by another 24% so mid to late game you are only doing 1292. so mid to late game, you are only doing 70.2173913% of what she use to do. old numbers 470+320+320+730 is 1840. 1840 damage every 2.9s. new numbers 400+300+300+700 is 1700. 1700 damage every 2.9s. that is a nerf of 140

[@ivanluke3057]

You didn't put into consideration the small attack speed buff she got (her attack chain is now 0.15s faster). Her old dps was 1840 per 2.9s while new Vora dps is 1700 per 2.75s. That is 634 dps vs 618 dps, which isn't too significant.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@ivanluke3057 there is no attack speed buff. the middle attack is the first attack so in reality there was no change on the overall combo damage even if you add that in. in reality, it went down from 1840 to 1700 which is a big different as the end still has the long cooldown before you can attack.

[@ivanluke3057]

@@darkstalkerknight63 The post-fire delay on the Medium attack is quicker though. Therefore, you get to move on to the double light attacks quicker, therefore you get to finish her attack chain slightly quicker. They state this themselves on the patch notes, "we’ve reduced the post-fire delay on her Medium attack to make her attack loop smoother and get her damage ramped more quickly." You could argue her effective dmg per shot is reduced... which is true because as you said, the total dmg is still only 1700 and she's gonna struggle more against targets higher health than that, but if we're talking abt raw numbers here (where we assume you just hold down the attack button for Vora) then the dps difference is still 634 dps vs 618 dps.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@ivanluke3057 again the combo is the same. this means the attack is not stronger. if it comes out faster and the outcome is still the same but its total is 140 less damage overall that means it is weaker. I said "her overall damage is down by 140" meaning her combo in total is 140 less. if we are looking at raw numbers then why would you assume you are just holding down the button. again the total combo is 1700 from 1840. over 3 seconds who will die first, her or someone who does 2000 damage in that same time. let me look at it like this, Yagorath does about 1000 to 1100 damage a second. does Vora doing 140 less damage helps kill Yagorath sooner? no. Rei's Envelop that make any damage over 275 only does 275. with the changes, Vora is now going to lose to Rei when she use to win that fight nearly 100% of the time. all the changes did was made Vora weaker to people who she would have won fights against before. Now I could add in the 1 to 1.4s post delay after the heavy actual if you want to in then which makes her damage even lower per second

[@ivanluke3057]

@@darkstalkerknight63 No need for that long explanation. I'm not disagreeing with you about Vora's state lol . I'm just correcting your dps calculations based on her changes: That is her old dps of 1840 per 2.9s (634 dps) vs her new dps of 1700 per 2.75s (618 dps). You incorrectly stated on your og comment that her new numbers are "1700 damage every 2.9s" and I'm just pointing it out lol. Other than that, I agree with your statements 🙌

[@StrikerVonSpark]

I love how happy and giggly Kami gets, when he hears ''Team RWBY'', it warms my heart! But Kami, have you watched RWBY already?

[@omgitskami]

I have not! I NEEEEEEED TOOOOO >.

[@StrikerVonSpark]

@@omgitskami Oh, please do, they even had a crossover with Superman :)

[@Bob_Oh]

Clownin' all day every day, u know how it been

[@ryanqube9132]

Vora damaging skills should detonate the damage over time from her normal attack.

[@mugenmasters8564]

yagorath is also fun kami...please give us a yag video!

[@tripleadog5868]

Gotta love all the Hi-Rez stans trying to justify why a 9.2% dps reduction is a"buff" because the numbers look prettier now, especially when dmg thresholds and ttk are as important as they are for a flank

[@darkstalkerknight63]

around numbers looks better. if someone say they are paying you 20 dollars an hour but you were making 20.43 an hour, you would be upset huh. but "round numbers look better". how about you round it to 21 so I can hit blackjack. I found they did not put in the patch notes is the in game ticks is 1.25s so better but worse. more useful as a reveal but less damage per second overall.

[@Exitium696]

I'm just very annoyed that her left click combo does 50 less dmg (1820)

[@darkstalkerknight63]

it actually does 140 less damage. old numbers 470+320+320+730 is 1840. 1840 damage every 2.9s. new numbers 400+300+300+700 is 1700. 1700 damage every 2.9s.

[@Exitium696]

@@darkstalkerknight63 These are the numbers on the wiki. The ones ingame were 470+300+300+680. I believe the info text in game is the accurate/up to date one.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

@@Exitium696 lol. the text in game are not up to date. it is funny that you think that. but lets use your numbers. 1750 vs 1840. that is still a 90 damage nerf.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

​@@Exitium696 I just checked the in game numbers and it says the combo is medium light, light heavy. it also said Light:200 Medium 300 and Heavy 600 and it is 100 total on the tick so it is 400+300+300+700 which is 1700 as I said. so you are using the in game text which does not say what you said

[@Exitium696]

@@darkstalkerknight63 I also said "were", as in before the update these numbers I named were the numbers in the info text in game. And I've never heard of a discrepancy between the in game info and the online wiki regarding Vora (up until now). Can you tell me when or how this discrepancy happened or where to find more info about the differences between in game and the wiki?

[@Doomsday_-ct5kj]

Ult the tanks. Please😢

[@ChallaGamingTV]

Day 30 of requesting Kami for a 'best Kami moments of 2023' video

[@chloelenato6777]

Bro's still there

[@Bentendou]

Kami uploads everyday at 5 am, he would have to go through 365 videos and edit every single one then combine all of those into one video. I don't even know if bro has an editor, but that's one hell of a job

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

@@Bentendou or he could use only certain videos instead of going throg all the 365 videos he can just choose around 30 videos he remembers had good clips and use those clips

[@riotman3579]

He needs a good editor 😅

[@Bentendou]

@@riotman3579 lol yeah he does everything on his own which is respectable, and the reason I've been watching him for so long. So yeah MAYBE he will take a few days off to do a best of series one of these days, but bro just wants to play the game and I'm here for it