Rewind is better. Don’t use backup mag mods on it, they decrease your total reserves.
@frifasS6 ай бұрын
it's a bug?, if not it should be in the description of the mod.
@GrzlyBore6 ай бұрын
@@frifasS seems bugged. This is the only weapon that I know of that has this interaction.
@frifasS6 ай бұрын
@@GrzlyBore thanks for the info.
@NuggetDePoulee6 ай бұрын
@@GrzlyBorecataclysmic is also bugged
@Z0Y26 ай бұрын
That just for the adept back up mag mod the normal one doesnt reduce your reserve
@sakuramoon32596 ай бұрын
Veist stinger does not work with envious assassin. You'll get the btter ADS move speed, but it wont reload the mag since its overflowed.
@Oplix6 ай бұрын
That's only if it triggers on the overflowed part of the mag. It will still work if you have less than 5 in the magazine.
@blakeerenhouse9436 ай бұрын
@@Oplixwhich results in pricing heist stinger far less often and it will not feed back into envious like it does with rewind
@douglaswalker77076 ай бұрын
@@blakeerenhouse943 well envious already can give you the entire ammo in one mag so it really doesnt matter
@tomz65946 ай бұрын
I got Auto Loading with Bait and Switch. I used with an Izanagi swap rotation and it was putting in work.
@olliecrayford6 ай бұрын
Still losing damage over a 2.5 to 2.3 second window
@theonlyotherdan65876 ай бұрын
Remember veist stinger doesnt proc till youre in the orginal mag size!
@asideofchicken37606 ай бұрын
Me watching the entire video even though datto told me this exact information:🤔🤔📝📝
@Barber001176 ай бұрын
Finally, someone who thinks the way I do.
@-Benja6 ай бұрын
Lmao I like how people who play destiny get second opinions like they're at the docter😂
@Diaryofaninja6 ай бұрын
So u dont have thoughts or opinions of urself then huh u just glaze and get on ur knees FOR A MAN😂
@Barber001176 ай бұрын
@@-Benja brother, it’s the only way we can be super EFFICIENCY MODE😂😂
@user-funnymadp6 ай бұрын
i love my enhanced battery, rewind and b&s roll, i think have a mag perk increasing mag size is better than accelerated coil, since adept charge time mod does not decrease damage
@JamesStripp6 ай бұрын
Literally the God roll my guy 👌 Have fun with it lad!
@Blank_INI6 ай бұрын
More mag size decreases reserves btw
@naquaman20346 ай бұрын
@@Blank_INI Only when increasing mag size via Backup Mag. Enhanced Battery doesn't lower overall reserves.
@hotsauce7176 ай бұрын
I have the same roll and it feels great
@theevilnarwhale6 ай бұрын
I got enhanced battery and reservoir burst. API says it goes to 7 shots, in game says 6. Bummer. Back to farming.
@adamschulz97196 ай бұрын
We appreciate you using all these materials for testing! ❤️
@ready1player316 ай бұрын
I just snagged rewind + firing line, think I’m good at this point. Not having to proc anything actively is kinda nice for just lazy DPS with surges
@Virtuous-Concepts6 ай бұрын
Got a Env/RR+Bait roll last night. Gonna enjoy overflowing the mag then switching to RR 😊
@x-sylvr6 ай бұрын
Me too
@dustinweaver82596 ай бұрын
Just remember with envious assassin if you build it up but then die you lose it
@Yeeeaintgondoit6 ай бұрын
It’s pointless to do that…
@Virtuous-Concepts6 ай бұрын
@@Yeeeaintgondoit But I can, that's the point. Haha
@Maxtackk6 ай бұрын
Rewind round does not work on overflowed magazine. The only good pair would be envious + res burst
@HibiscusOrchid6 ай бұрын
2:40 Warden can still be crit if you're shooting its core when it's opened up like that. The eye isn't the crit spot, the core is. Thought I'd share for anyone reading this
@nightismonochrome6 ай бұрын
Does anyone know how it interacts with attrition orbs? Technically it should take 5-6 hits based on the perk description since 1 ammo fires a 3 shot burst, compared to pulses where 3 ammo is a 3 shot burst.
@TheeIronJedi6 ай бұрын
Aztec or someone said auto and bait stacking with Izzy is a great option, especially solo players
@alcapone1176 ай бұрын
yes its worth it, bait and switch with rewind rounds is often best surrounded with rewind is also great firing line is the easiest of the three and still pretty good get enhanced battery, liquid coils is also great (for people who dont have the time to watch) Edit: also now is the best time to farm, double loot and xp, just get some warlocks with getaway build and outbreak to speedrun
@LtheGlorious6 ай бұрын
rewind is generally better because veist stinger can’t activate on an overflowed mag
@InfernoPhilM6 ай бұрын
I can shoot all 17 w/o reloading with Rewind Rounds and Stinger.
@yourbrojohno6 ай бұрын
I think autoloading is sort of underated because of the ability to proc cascade point in 1 shot. This way you can pair it with a cascade super cluster or Volta bracket depending on the range and drastically improve the DPS because linears suck. Even with enhanced surrounded enhanced rewind, the most I could deal to Rathil was 1.45 mil with surges, radiant and no debuff. With using the slug shotgun in combination, I was doing 1.63 mil. This is ofc way behind a GL mag dump and for total DMG it was only a little better. Something like parasite+song of flame+Cartesian, I was doing 2.4mil. and ofc that has leagues better total reserves DMG. Suppose for like the witness where you have a 45 second phase and I'm not sure if parasite reaches the boss consistently, and even then obviously no worms hunger, however with me missing some shots on rathil, I'd imagine on a static target like witness this is pretty good.
@savagepatchkiid56456 ай бұрын
Everyone is saying the backup mag reduces your overall ammo reserves for it??
@naquaman20346 ай бұрын
Increasing your mag size via Backup Mag lowers base reserves. However, increasing your mag size via Enhanced Battery doesn't negatively effect reserves.
@jdhenry16106 ай бұрын
Backup mag is bugged right now, its not supposed to reduce your reserves. It also seems to be doing it on certain weapons, which this linear is one of them.
@adhirg6 ай бұрын
I got to 7 shots with Ionized Battery and Backup Mag, running ALH and BnS. I got such a good roll but wound up with Ionized or Liquid Coils in the battery column :/ can’t figure out what to use. I think the play will be Ionized + Adept Reload, I have a reload masterwork so I can cover the -20 reload that way and still have 6 in the mag.
@TimothyMark76 ай бұрын
get accelerated coils with cornered and you got yourself a heavy pulse rifle
@dfillio89936 ай бұрын
Best roll without question is rewind+bns. Envious overflowed portion of the mag doesn’t work with veist and 99.9% of the time you’ll never need to reload with rewind+veist so there’s no reason to go through the hassle of trying to proc envious
@superbob246 ай бұрын
Man I really need to get that caster arc conductor build going it looks so fun.
@Logick6 ай бұрын
First GM I got it with Ionized Battery, Envious Assassin/Rewind Rounds & Bait and Switch :)
@cookiepuss81826 ай бұрын
I got the rewind bait n switch early and kept farming for material and ended up getting all the great secondary rolls. Cornered and surrounded has my attention for sure.
@223Drone6 ай бұрын
I got firing line and rewind rounds which is going to be good in raids/dungeons.
@mateopatinoguzman85276 ай бұрын
Envious doesnt work with origin trait on the overflow part of the mag
@gen89016 ай бұрын
My cats are about to upload their review too
@bkseventy5 ай бұрын
your materials were not sacrificed in vain, thank you
@mrthor30616 ай бұрын
i love watching this guy just straight up fudge numbers to fit his script 😂❤️
@johnnyhall91546 ай бұрын
Bait and switch auto loading might be worth it more as it reloads by the time you're done with Izanagi
@Based_Shogun6 ай бұрын
Adept backup mag is pointless as well on some rolls with the mag perks. Adept charge time didn't change anything as well.
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL46 ай бұрын
It doesnt visually show it but Addept Charge time does reduce it by 40ms
@jdhenry16106 ай бұрын
Adept charge time does effect the weapon, it's just not visual for some reason.
@voodoolab8146 ай бұрын
The whole "Envious vs Rewind" debate is so dumb. The real answer to that question is ALH. How long does BnS last? 7 Bursts, oh look at that the gun has 7 bullets in the mag. Once you reproc BnS ALH reloaded the gun for you. Why are people making this so complicated?
@derek31546 ай бұрын
Still trying to get an Rewind/B&S …got a lot of attrition orbs and Hatchling😭. The got an AutoLoading Reservoir Burst that will be great for general play/champions when Strand surge is active.
@XiD06 ай бұрын
best i got was envious/rewind and firing line
@radtacular22186 ай бұрын
I understand the appeal of the synergy between Cornered and Surrounded, but wouldn't Rewind (or Envious or ALH) be a better pairing? Wouldn't you want a bigger mag/less reload over a faster charge time? I had Cornered / Surrounded and sharded it, and I'm hanging onto one that pairs Envious and Slice with Surrounded (I suppose if you got Envious and Cornered as your two options on an adept, you have best of both worlds?).
@smuggen6 ай бұрын
is the 2 mag dps accounting for the BnS timer running out? it’s definitely a linear i’d keeo vaulted just in case they ever become relevant again
@Zer0mac3166 ай бұрын
Envious + Reservoir Burst is a good combo, but Rewind/BnS is the go-to
@Oplix6 ай бұрын
Got Env. Assassin/Bait & Switch god roll second clear. Was using Prosperity Ghost mod for double drops.
@drsoggyhamflaps67056 ай бұрын
Is it worth getting the adept version if I already got a rewind/B&S roll to drop on regular nightfall?
@EreptileDysfunction6 ай бұрын
Nah you’re good adept mods aren’t worth the hassle
@jamesl91746 ай бұрын
Is it better than whisper or still hunt? Because my philosophy is if it doesn’t do more than whisper, there really isn’t a scenario in the game you should use this right? If linear fusions get a nice buff that changes things but right now why farm for a weapon that is the best of the worst heavy weapon class?
@Eqnotalent6 ай бұрын
Is there way to get jolt proc with the arc conductor sword?
@Zleepy_ZzZ6 ай бұрын
i got one with bait and switch and rewind + envious as swap perks. we are so up rn
@Keedz6 ай бұрын
same with a mag boosting perk, first run too. we eating good with this roll
@jimmcmeen7616 ай бұрын
What shader are you using? Looks sick bro
@GT-Oldschool6 ай бұрын
You didn't show how this compares to the new linear raid exotic.
@flusteredweasel74836 ай бұрын
Hey what build is in the video with the sword and electricity
@Dynasty18186 ай бұрын
Honestly, I just used an adept with Rewind and Firing Line, Veist, and am...shocked how mediocre it is vs what KZbinrs are saying. I used it on the Witness and was shocked that after 1 phase I had barely 1.5m damage. Takes like 3 or 4 bursts to kill a subjigator. Solid "eh, it's fine" Linear to me. I get similar numbers from Doomed Petitioner and Stormchaser.
@TKLotusSWG6 ай бұрын
I have 7 in the mag with enh bat and adept mag
@voodoolab8146 ай бұрын
Adept mag lowers you total reservers. Not a good pick.
@2xe.4676 ай бұрын
Veist stinger does not work with envious assassin.
@trap59346 ай бұрын
What role is that with your ergo sums?
@matthewsmith79476 ай бұрын
I got a nice rewind rounds / bait and switch roll
@ollie34276 ай бұрын
the roll is enhanced battery, adept charge and charge time mw
@wulfpoweriv74096 ай бұрын
Babe wake up ehroar does Math again
@fakeyhero6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video king. I appreciate the info and your grind
@connorjenkins30636 ай бұрын
use adept backup mag it pushes to 7 dk why but it does
@MrBlue5226 ай бұрын
I managed to get rapid hit and bait and switch so I’m happy
@rafaelaguiar99116 ай бұрын
Luckily got a rewind/envious with bait and switch on my third GM😄
@Folkmoot6 ай бұрын
Do you only get double perks on Adept?
@larrywoolfolk82246 ай бұрын
yes
@ThriveOnEgo_6 ай бұрын
i haven't watched this video yet but im going to guess there's a, " uhhh yeah its pretty good" in there
@lobstershrimp6 ай бұрын
So for those who can craft Cataclysmic this is pointless right?
@adhirg6 ай бұрын
Scintillation is a 3 burst, so it actually beats out Cataclysmic with the same perks.
@Oplix6 ай бұрын
Ablaze shader looks HARD on this.
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL46 ай бұрын
Honestly Veist stinger being on a heavy burst LFR is what makes this weapon. Rewind isn't the end all roll. It's just another option. If we're talking about Firing Line I'd argue Rewind is the best choice but when talking about BnS and the 10-11 second timer you need to reactivate with ontop of any Izy or Still hunt swaps you're doing, you'll almost never benefit from Rewind over ALH or even Envious Assassin. So for BnS I'd say the best pairs are ALH and EA with Rewind pretty much equal but not necessary. For Firing Line or Surrounded though I would go Rewind with maybe EA as a second option. But really I just want to see a direct comparison with ALH vs Rewind both with Veist stinger and see how each holds up in the BnS swap. My own tests show ALH has the same up time as Rewind assuming Veist procs at least once a mag (which in 80-90% of the times it does) but I'd love to see someone do a more detailed breakdown of it.
@GinjaLeviathan6 ай бұрын
It's crazy I did 3 gms and everytime got an EA+RB roll
@Piqcked6 ай бұрын
Why are you advising Envious with Veist ?!
@mr.69346 ай бұрын
The first guy who tells the truth envious is just better in 99% of the content in the game. Some KZbinrs say „but it requires set up“, you literally kill enemies all the time like what kind of set up are they talking about. There is no single boss fight I struggled so far getting my extra shots in.
@josh___something6 ай бұрын
A prominent example was mentioned in the video, if you're one of the mechanics people in e5 Salvation's edge, you don't get much time to build it, if at all. I was running an env. gun with the witness and that perk at most gives you like 1-2 extra shots at most when everyone's doing their job. Meanwhile, something like reconstruction just fills you to 200% mag size for basically free. Is it still worth having an envious assassin roll? Yeah. But there ARE downsides to any perk with an activation requirement.
@csrproductions86176 ай бұрын
which ergo sum is that
@slade69596 ай бұрын
Looks like caster + risk runner perk
@krytonite3126 ай бұрын
The shader 🥵
@oGBeginner6 ай бұрын
Rezzer burst?
@senketsukira61506 ай бұрын
always rewind with viest stinger envious doesnt work with viest
@HoopleHeadUSA6 ай бұрын
Rewind Rounds!
@cypherpls6 ай бұрын
How come you dont stream?
@whoneedbag52646 ай бұрын
Got one with rewind + firing line and a mag boost. Absolutely free meta level damage
@WaveForceful6 ай бұрын
I got B&S + Envious.
@brendenrufh18186 ай бұрын
Envious and viest stinger dont work together so rewind is going to be the better option
@Saffimaru6 ай бұрын
Veist stinger will proc once the mag is below its cap, putting in the last few reserve rounds into the mag
@brendenrufh18186 ай бұрын
@@Saffimaru if your lucky. And if you get enough kills to proc envious twice. Or you could just use rewind and have 0 set up and just hold the trigger down and blow your entire load. When 1 requires setup and 1 doesnt i think the one not requiring setup wins every time
@Saffimaru6 ай бұрын
@@brendenrufh1818 you only need 1 veist stinger proc with envious, you need multiple for rewind. You need to be lucky for rewind, not envious
@brendenrufh18186 ай бұрын
@@Saffimaru both cross and ehroar have said more often than not you will get all of them off and unless your extremely unlucky then you wont. And it requires 0 set up
@Saffimaru6 ай бұрын
@@brendenrufh1818 I mean with envious you will never have to reload, rewind you’ll probably have to reload once
@TheGrinder_276 ай бұрын
I got envious resovoir. Still going for my rewind firing line
@PerciGarner996 ай бұрын
Veist stinger doesn’t work with envious
@mikehawk5656 ай бұрын
Never been this early ❤️
@ManBaguette6 ай бұрын
for me enhanced + backup mag only work if I have both enhanced and ionized on the weapon
@BossTyphlosion6 ай бұрын
What the scallop
@davidb.91106 ай бұрын
No love for Auto Loading?!
@SwoleakhulTheBlind6 ай бұрын
Your niche roll is literally the only roll worth grinding for 😂 only heavy weapon that can roll that way.
@porterde086 ай бұрын
I personally just don’t find this weapon all that great even the adept. The shot is slow and low dps and that maxed out with faster charge rate. Linears need a whole rework.
@luisdavidgarciarendonorozc34156 ай бұрын
Bro, got the 5/5 on my first roll LETS GO TOUCH GRASS THIS WEEKEND
@powwerfoxx6 ай бұрын
wtf is that shader
@vezrien6 ай бұрын
Max reserves is 23 when using backup mag. If you don't use backup mag, max reserves is 24. lol
@akpimpjuice6 ай бұрын
It’s pronounced “We-Wined”
@forsaken_o6 ай бұрын
Baller
@sailpark1246 ай бұрын
adept backup makes the magazine size 7
@khalilfarah9016 ай бұрын
Thunderlord better
@Darth_Chalice6 ай бұрын
DON'T use Ionized Battery with Backup Mag. DO use Enhanced Battery with Adept Mag. You will get 7 in the mag without losing the 20 reload speed which could make a difference in the rare case you need to reload during damage.
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL46 ай бұрын
Don't use adept mag either. Only use Enhanced Battery and thats it. Enhanced Battery gives you 6 in the mag without affecting reserves while everything else does (for whatever reason).
@ashwrightyy6 ай бұрын
linears suck bro
@maxismine98966 ай бұрын
Bots copying comments is pathetic I’m blocking this channel. Absolutely pathetic