NEW Canyon Endurace: details, ride impressions, comparisons to other endurance bikes

[@davekashuba4730]

Thanks for pointing out both pros AND cons. I don't even bother watching videos from certain others who only show the positives.

[@cd0u50c9]

Looking at you gcn!

[@GreggSchauerman]

A couple friends just got this Canyon model and love them. I’m thinking about replacing my 5yo Trek Domane SL6 but wanted to know more about the bike. Your review is by far the most informative, unbiased and mature approach out there. Thanks!

[@budlacombe]

Good work Ben … appreciate the vids. Top tube storage .. a bit gimmicky for my taste.

[@markfisher7087]

The geometry looks like a great fit for me. I like a taller stack and a longer reach…..short legs, arms, and a longer torso. I can’t understand, though, why a consumer direct brand would have integrated cockpits on an endurance bike. It makes swapping stem lengths very difficult and is probably enough to keep me from buying it. The bar width adjustment is a nice feature, but not nearly as important as the stem. Plus, that adjustment of width makes me a bit nervous.

[@danielupton9353]

Great review of this bike, sir. I just bought the CF SLX 8 Ultegra 12 Di2 Aero w/ 11x34 in back and 52x36 (perfecto) in front. DT Swiss ERC 1400. This superb, stealthy bad-ass makes me want to ride fast and stay in shape. The bike is plus with the 30F / 32R Conti 5k's, but surprisingly responsive to pedal mashing. Still have the headset risers on, and learned a horrifying lesson. Passing 40 mph on a silk-smooth descent, this bike was like a knife. However, as I passed 45mph in the drops, maybe because I was not as forward as on a race bike, I got speed wobbles that just about put me over the front, even with the typical recovery methods. Big lesson here is that, descending on this (wonderful) endurance machine, my weight was too far back, and I almost ate pavement at 45mph. Not blaming the bike, it was me the rider. The bike is /////////superb!

[@siitan83]

the disassemble-ble handlebar is great... this bike can go in a box, and on a plane. Love that solution - big big plus for canyon over the competition.

[@twillyspanksyourcakes]

Or just route your cables outside... Oh wait you can't since they removed the cable holes. A solution to a problem that should not exist and people like you praise like it's the next big thing. Bruuuh

[@tk5422]

I bought the canyon endurance and love the super comfy ride. Before I rode othe brands and models, had often neck pain. But with this special endurance line….just lovin it.

[@simoncbr900rr]

I have a 2017 Canyon CFSL 8 Ultegra DI2. It is and has been perfect since the day it got delivered,the only thing i have changed is the DT Swiss wheels for Hunt 40mm carbon and Vittoria tan wall tyres. If you want one,buy it. You will not be disappointed

[@markxkovacic]

You can also buy the Endurace CF 8 Disc that has a adjustable cockpit for $2499. You then have money for a wheel upgrade and top tube bolts for a storage bag instead of the trap door.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

That must be the old/current Endurace, eh? The pricelist I was sent just has 5 North American bikes, with the 12spd Ultegra Di2 being the least expensive, and all having the integrated/adjustable cockpit.

[@ashleydburgess11]

Read a couple of reviews of this and the CFR. No one has seemed to notice the 500g increase on the old endurace CF slx9 which was sub UCI weight

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

That's a good shout. Thanks for pointing that out. I also forgot to mention/show the total bike weight, which is 18.5lb.

[@jonathanzappala]

They could have done it, but they missed. I’d rather have a domane, it might not have a power meter and cost more, but you can change stem length (and without recabling), it has t47, and a down tube is a better place for storage and it has a top tube mount. I do like the trail number on this though.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

Now that I have downtube storage(Domane), I'm gonna have a hard time ever buying another bike that doesn't have it

[@wolfgangzil7064]

Same issues with the bottle cages (on my aeroad; I wanted it to be 100% canyon but this part is not the best solution) - good walkthrough video 👍

[@holhim]

They only fit the Canyon bottles. I bought the bottles and they don't fit any other cage :-)

[@madsandmanX]

The best review I’ve seen for this bike, and I watched tons. Some details that are hard to find elsewhere. One thing I’m wondering - whether you used a Canyon bottle in that cage, I heard it’s the only one that fits ok. Thanks for that video and you got my sub 🤙

[@adam-maleki81]

Great job, Ben! It's been a while since I've been checking reviews on Canyon and Trek (Endurance); this one was, by far, the best!

[@noonewhocares654]

How will the top tube storage endure rainy days? Did you have any chance to try it? It would be really pitty to have water in the frame every time you get hit by some rain

[@jeffreysaffir1375]

Will Canyon go to threaded bottom brackets at any point? Hate seeing pressfit on a bike like this. I also am not impressed by the top tube storage. My Domane uses the downtube for storage which allows me to not only have a multi tool attached to the door of the storage but the internal roll can hold CO2, levers, an inflator and a tube. The size of the storage compartment can also allow a small pump if one chooses (I don't) and some additional snacks if need be (I don't as I carry in my jersey). Using the top tube is pretty much a waste IMHO.

[@the.communist]

You can choose to build storage in a good place or a shitty place; canyon chose the shitty place

[@Uncle2002]

Super helpful and detailed review. Thx you

[@jetwind72]

Excellent review and thanks for doing this. I am waiting for this bike to be available so I can pull the trigger.

[@tmayberry7559]

Well that's a lot to take in. First I don't like the top tube storage it's not accessible during a ride. Secondly I don't like that the stem is proprietary. Thirdly the adjustable carbon handlebars are an accident waiting to happen. Here is why if the bars were adjusted and the bolts were slightly overtightened and caused a hairline stress fracture on the inside. With the right amount of force from either the rider or jarring from any road gravel included or both. The handlebars would snap! All the way to the stem You'd still have to get a new proprietary stem and handlebar Not a fan of carbon bikes. Admirer perhaps😊

[@ninjabortion]

It wasn't long ago that top tubes were breaking if you leaned on em at a coffee shop, now we are putting storage ports in em. Wild.

[@red00tl]

The bottle cage fails at holding a bottle while sitting still; no way it's ok even for road use. Also, I'd really hate to stare down the battery door on the top tube while I'm suffering.

[@toranmacleod]

Was expecting you’d be riding a large at 6’1” as is recommended for me at same height on Canyon, wonder what your thoughts are on that.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

I'm often in between recommended sizes, and almost always go down because I have shorter legs and I like a lower stack. Also sometimes a M/56 is the cutoff for 172.5 cranks and 42 bars, and L/58 often get 175 and 44.

[@848evo4]

looks cool, I wanted to buy a canyon last year, they didn't have any to sell, just looked they still don't

[@dyadyaBOB]

Unless you got lucky, buying and servicing a bike at bikeshop is no different that dealing with direct to consumer brand. Stores that do real demo rides are unicorns. Most don’t even have more then one size in the showroom if at all. Service is annoying because they will be booked month in advance all season and won’t look at your bike without reservation.

[@owenanstey436]

I have found the "suspension" seat post to be very noisy, even after copious use of friction paste. This is on a Canyon mountain bike.

[@XCRiders]

Love hate them modern cockpit. Almost guarantee I wouldn’t be happy with the fit 😂 till I played around with stem lengths

[@ketle369]

I got the 2018 version and I’m also 6/183 cm. I put on a 120mm stem on mine, because I thought the reach on the old size M was too short. I’m a heavy and big guy also so I’m guessing I should go for an Ultimate next time?

[@joemccaffery306]

Just bought a canyon endurace cf slx 8 di2 aero. It does not come with a power meter. I don’t want one so it’s ok. No power meter on the endurance bikes costing less than 5700$

[@tassfilm]

Talking about the CP0018 handle bars. I am trying to get some clarification if I can get the 110mm CP0018 on a medium Aeroad CF SLX. After reaching out to canyon customer service 4 time by email and not answering the my question. I gave up and phoned them. Canyon said “ no “ there is no option to get a 110mm CP0018 on a medium. Simply frustrating when their media release say you can and their customer service say no you can’t. I personally found Canyon customer service hopeless. I had similar experience a few years back when I got my Ultimate.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

My understanding for North America is that you cannot get different cockpits or any other parts when you buy a bike, since they are all sitting complete in boxes in the CA warehouse. You can order other Canyon parts like different cockpits through them, but then you've got the extra cost, time and hassle.

[@tassfilm]

@@TheRidewithBenDelaney Maybe it’s different in North America compared to Australia. I did ask if I can buy the 110mm CP0018 from Canyon. I was informed they do no sell CP0018 to the public and it’s not listed on their website. I will just have to be happy with the 100mm CP0018. 😀

[@Fregorio]

So weird that the seat angle is now 72° (S size). It was previously 73,5° for the Endurace. I mean what's the point of reducing the reach if you make the seat angle so slack that the top tube is longer than the previous Endurace

[@The72Rabbit]

Great video. You covered many things I never thought of in making a bike purchase decision. I went to a trek store and asked them about purchasing fitting and they told me to go to University Bike. Key for me is that I never knew bike fitting is important. Perhaps my bike racing days may have done better. Reach, Stack, store purchase vs convention test / mail purchase are all great things to consider when buying a bike today when my Puegout Carbon and Pinnarello in the mid 1980s only cost me $3k with Campanollo SR set .... and where is Campanollo and Puegout today??? I am so far behind bike stuff today but I am most likely your age trying to fix my health concerns. Like I said. .... I learned a lot from this video.

[@userdjee834]

Sorry for the rant, but did I miss the ride impressions or it was like 10 seconds long? Isn't that the most important thing? Compared to Ultimate etc?

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Not a rant; I didn't go super in-depth there, and kinda scattered the ride impressions around with geo discussion. Definitely more plush feeling and upright than the Ultimate. 32mm rear tire and VCLS tag team for a very smooth ride.

[@Robke250]

Which tires did you use for the gravel ride?

[@angelortiz353]

Hey cheers what mount do you have on the bike?i dont want the canyon it only holds the light from canyon is there another option?

[@GregFredrickson]

Canyon do some things a little funky but they always perform well and are well thought out. There are so many choices now a days that Canyon checks more boxed than most with less compromises. They have changed the industry, not like Tesla did with cars but they have in my opinion.

[@the.communist]

Better remember to attach the bars properly before riding off.

[@seanmccuen6970]

just gimme the frame and fork... oh the possibilities for a dream bike and 'quiver killer' (even if the top tube storage is a 'lil gimmicky, imo).

[@rudyelizondo1935]

Good vid man, yeah my biggest problem is getting to ride the bike and feel it’s comfort “before” I buy the thing. Bike looks pretty cool and your description sounds great, I’m sure the larger size tires give it a smoother ride too. How much does it weigh though and what’s the cost for delivery n assembly? I’m older and my fingers hurt too much to tighten bolts etc.

[@jayjohnson7594]

where does the di2 battery go? I suppose it's not in the vcls seatpost? Somewhere near the bottom bracket then?

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

12spd di2 battery is different than the 11spd one, which connected to the shifters as well as the derailleurs and often went in the seatpost. This new style battery sits in the frame, only connects to the derailleurs, and you charge it at the rear derailleur.

[@randaldavis9332]

@@TheRidewithBenDelaney Due to the VCLS seat post the DI2 battery has to go in the down tube. I have the previous generation and that is where it is on that bike as well. It is the only thing I do not like about the bike because you have to remove the bottom bracket to get to the battery and it is a pain to get in and out. It is also the reason they would not be able to do the storage in the down tube like Trek,

[@gserranol]

So is Size Medium a good fit for a 6'0" person?

[@DaingerMouse2]

Check the fit calculator on their website. Inner leg is also important for fit for these.

[@notpablo8369]

If you buy Di2 equipped bike does that include the charger?

[@randaldavis9332]

Yes

[@kabobsyea9985]

this is gravel bike?

[@fredrichards3998]

Great review fair informative and Impartial. Nice bike. Now with my bike fitting hat on consumer direct bikes do come with challenges mainly as you pointed out Ben with the cockpit. Clients always want to hold you fully accountable for issues here. It’s a difficult line for us to deal with when often you’re not too familiar with every brand you deal with. Personally I like some level of adjustment to really get a fit dialled.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

I hear you. And fit is tricky enough in person!

[@KOL630]

Must be a faulty cage. I have two of those super light canyon carbon cages on my gravel bike and have ridden the f*ck out of it on all terrains and they’re proper tight. Never had a bottle rattle or bounce out! I have Rapha bottles and cafe du cyclist bottles and they’re both a super tight snug fit. Must be a faulty cage you should speak to canyon. The bike looks great. I’ve had a few canyons and always been impressed with the quality for the price. A good company that pushes innovation.

[@GG-si7fw]

Beautiful bike. I feel that gravel and endurance riders should be able to work on their bikes as never know what will strike them. See Vegan Cyclist experience in the Unbound Gravel XL. The consumer direct model should allow for more flexibility in sizing the stem and handlebar instead of the one piece unit that is starting to appear more and more on high end bikes. Great review too.

[@kenzukin8801]

Another great review from you; thanks…!! Noticed the reach and drop of the handlebars are set up for a middle of the road sized rider. That’s another compromise in my book. There are no alternatives when ordering, and worse, Canyon buries this kind of information. They also don’t disclose the size of the chainrings - or maybe I’m just missing something. All things considered tho, it’s a great bike at a great price.

[@trevorblagg3529]

Canyon provide this information in the geometry and components table.

[@romanvocel7807]

Zajímalo by mě, jestli i novou lanovku budou vypínat. Doufám, že tento nesmysl nepřenesou!!

[@daviddawn9043]

Where is the ride impressions

[@peterhomann2140]

I think you are pretty close to the "be-all-end-all" guy. I currently ride a Pinarello Prince / Campy and am very partial to Campy over just about any other components, grudgedly w/could accept SRAM and there lies my peeve with Canyon USA: In Germany you can get most of their bikes with Campagnolo components, in the US we are relegated to Shimano or SRAM. What I would suggest to you: How about a comparison (same bike, be that Endurace or Aeroad) between a say Shimano Ultegra and a SRAM Force specked machine?

[@cyclingfreak56]

Never bought a frame with bottle cages attached so non-issue. A little too much chatter about the stem length, all right we got it the first AND second time, third time was not a charm!😅 All in all from your points made on featured and handling (maybe more on handling, less on stem would have been better?) I would totally by a/this Canyon! Don’t think I’d ever use that storage compartment?🧐

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Good feedback, thanks.

[@hordboy]

I’ll never buy a bike with an integrated cockpit that costs $400 to change. I’m a little older and fit changes with the years. 🤷🏻

[@chrisvanbuggenum871]

I just don't think for consumer direct there is enough customisation available for Canyon. I think Ribble do a better job.

[@8rk]

I'm a simple man. Ben posts a video, I watch it.

[@downinla4076]

I have the 2018 model, and I got it because it had a more race geometry compared to its other endurance bike competitors. The new model seems to veer too much to the endurance geometry so now that it’s just like any other endurance bike. Granted it’s still the same great value, arguably more so due to the power meter, but it comes with inferior wheels compared to the 2018-2022 models. Additionally the top tube tools is a stupid idea. Even with tubeless, you should carry a tube and you can’t fit one in the top tube slot. This whole notion that you’ll never forget your tools if they’re built it makes no sense, since a saddle bag is almost always permanently attached to your bike.

[@endokrin7897]

It's a gimmick. (Built in storage this tiny.) The only people who will like it are those who don't use a saddlebag because they're "too cool" for a saddlebag.

[@JayLato]

ALERT! BEN’S ON A ROAD BIKE!

[@bobfoster687]

Bars look like deep drop, not compact.

[@davidgiroux6047]

Over 4 minutes to talk about top tube storage.....I'll pass on that bike.

[@JosephNieto-o8r]

No one asked

[@perfectly_boring]

people should probably just buy the Grizl instead.

[@macb.631]

You mean overall the Grizl is the better bike?

[@perfectly_boring]

@@macb.631depends what you will use it for. But for most people buying an endurace with the purpose of being comfortable and having an all round bike, I think the grizl is better on all points.

[@huttonsdubai411]

Those are ridiculously unnecessary features.

[@ilanpi]

Your position on this bike looks terrible, compared to your usual. You look like you're on a Dutch bike just after having back surgery. Also, note that this seat post requires a different carriage for carbon saddles, about $20. I have 3 consumer direct bikes: 2 track bikes and one city fixie from Dolan, UK. I am very happy with them. I bought a mountain bike from a local bike shop last year and have regretted it. They got a lot of setup wrong and it cost a lot more than online.

[@mopedvieh]

The bottle cages are for the proprietary Canyon water bottles. They work great with those, but I've read numerous reviews where the cages fail to securely hold any other bottle. As always, great and honest review, Ben. I've now established to watch your videos first and then transition over to the other youtubers. This puts their reviews into perspective 👍

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Proprietary water bottles? Ooph. I didn't realize that, but that's just dumb. Thanks for the correction. Glad you like my reviews. I don't know if they're always great, but they're always honest! Cheers.

[@aliancemd]

Their “Proprietary bottles” work with other cages, it’s just that the bottles are a bit fat and are slightly harder to push them in or get them out.

[@spandanhetfield]

To chime in - I have an Endurace 8 AL Disc, and canyon bottle cages that came with it work with non-canyon bottles as well.

[@dsonyay]

That top tube cover looks about as durable as the battery cover on my roku remote control. It may last a few months or so. Definitely will break and will likely be a common thing mentioned when looking for a used version of this bike. “Bike is in great shape” “but top tube cover doesn’t lock into place any more”

[@driliagor]

Remains to be seen. After all how often you need to use the top tube contents? Only rarely.

[@Xhadp]

Top Tube storage just means that we get no top tube bolts to mount a top tube bag which I would like to have instead. I can see where they are going with try to add frame storage compared to the likes of Domane and Roubaix but this just takes an L since it does have top tube bolts to complement it. With the addition of whatever the heck is going on with the handlebar it is just too complex to be a good get on and ride endurance bike.

[@swray2112]

This bike was high on my list for a new bike, but the press fit bottom bracket* and handlebar/stem combo made it a no go for me. The shopping experience had me so frustrated that I ordered a titanium frame with EXTERNAL routing. I'm just so tired that everyday bikes have to look like those in the pro peloton. *Finally, a lot manufacturers realized threaded bottom brackets are the only way to go & have gone back or to either T47 or BSA!

[@theworkethic]

Good choice, titanium frame with everything external and get to training, 10-14 hours of zone 2 and cut out the youtube cycling channel watching. Get “non stop” seat time.

[@sethhoward1095]

I agree 100%. I’m old enough not to be too concerned what people think. If I invest in a new bike I want to be able to do most of the work on it myself.

[@Baile_an_Locha]

Just found this channel when searching for reviews of the new Endurace. I like your approach. Thanks. Your point about proprietary parts is important. I have the 2020 Endurace. I do most maintenance myself but I recently needed to get headset bearings replaced at my local bike shop. Because they are non-standard I had to order them from Canyon’s supplier in Germany. Fairly straightforward for me because I live in the EU but it could be slower and more expensive for people in the US.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Cheers. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@MW-ud8zp]

The problem with bits from the top tube storage ending up in the seattube is rather amusing. Seems like a pretty obvious thing to spot and fix at the design stage.

[@the.communist]

These bikes are built in china for peanuts

[@todddonovan9780]

Be sure to check Canyon's geometry page for the Stack+ and Reach+ dimensions which include the bar / stem dimensions so indicate the total Stack / Reach to where you actually contact the bike. With the standard cockpit, the New Endurace has a slightly shorter Reach+ (5mm in size medium), but actually has 11mm less Stack+ than the Old Endurace. The new cockpit has less height than the old version and fewer inserts to change the height. Since changing the cockpit is difficult and expensive, those dimensions won't likely change for most riders. Also, as of 25 August, the New Endurace geometry chart has been updated from when in was first posted when the bike launched. I noticed the sear tube angle changed from 72ish to 73ish.

[@markreams3192]

That top tube storage looks like something a product engineer did to justify his salary!😂 Not very useful! Handlebar width adjustment? Hmm. I suppose some people would like it. Theses features are a bit of a gimmick to me. I would rather order a bike with the correct bar width and stem length. Does Canyon still use press fit BB’s? They’re a deal killer for me.

[@the.communist]

Pressfit yes

[@thomaskuhn6541]

That's disappointing when you start the review with something falling down the seatube. Between that, the rattling sound and the cover looking loose, I've sort of lost interest before you get around to telling me the good stuff. This is the problem when bike companies start getting too smart for their own good. On the positive side, it seems like pretty decent value for the money.

[@SCWgreg]

Always love your clean honest reviews! Thanks.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Thank you.

[@clew4349]

Rather than spend R & D $ and incur incremental manufacturing costs to "develop" the tool compartment, Canyon should have invested in improving their order and supply chain process to enable customers to choose the bar length (or crank length for that matter). Given a choice I prefer traditional bar/stem to allow for changes and adjustments. Threaded BB would have been nice as well!

[@FML22]

Looks like a great bike, as expected from Canyon. But why put the storage in the the thin top tube instead of the more capacious down tube???

[@stevenqirkle]

Looks awesome! I came really close to buying an Endurace last year - to the point where I even put in an order for one. But I went down to my local bike shop just to see what they had, and they were able get me a Scott Addict 10 in a couple weeks vs. a month+ for Canyon. They also helped with a warrantee issue and even offered me a loaner bike while it was being taken care of. I definitely spent more on the Scott, but no regrets as I love the bike, the bike shop has taken good care of me, and they also organize a lot of group rides and tours and are generally just a big part of the community here. Oh and they also have some pretty good deals some times on the previous year’s model - so if you’re patient you can get a pretty good deal from your LBS.

[@ToddChaddingtonEsq]

those bars are a dangerous gimmick holy shit

[@macb.631]

why?

[@RenedeDon]

taking a chance and ordered mine today. Coming from a Roubaix (Future Shock 1.0) and my dedicated gravel whip is a Salsa Warbird I hope this fits the bill since I do prefer a shorter reach and higher stack anyway. Thanks for the honest review!

[@chippunkcsgo1104]

Just a small notice. You can also control your wahoo bike computer with the hood buttons of ultegra and dura ace!

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Oh, snap! I didn’t realize that they added this feature. Thanks for the correction!

[@trwilliams22]

How long until one of those bits comes out of the sleeve and then falls down your seat tube? 30 seconds later: Oh, not long at all. Thanks for what you do.

[@yukiko_5051]

That handlebar looks sketchy...

[@1947wdx]

I think the expanding handle bar is a solution for a small percentage of people. I can see that it would come in handy for packing a bike for travel. If you don't have to box up your bike that often however, it is just a possible point of failure. Once you know the width of handlebars you need, I don't see anyone changing the width. A better solution would be to ditch the integration and use a bar that is the width you want. That way you can still easily take the bars off for travel. While I don't like the look of a threadless stem (I actually prefer the look of the even older quill stems) it provides a level of simplicity and adjustability not seen in the integrated stem/handlebar combinations. As far as the storage in the top tube: Hard pass. The possibility for rattles, and as you pointed out, loosing stuff inside the frame is just too high for me. They also have to make the top tube heavier to make up for the loss of structure caused by the huge hole in the tube.

[@tccycling]

Totally agree. The handlebar is an answer to a question no one asked.

[@jarhead4657]

It's still not wide enough for me. My CF 7 came with a 44 and even thats not really wide enough. Plus the stem height is not adjustable which makes no sense on an endurance bike.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

While I have too many bikes for it to matter, I would have loved this when I was younger. Flat road race? I'd definitely set my bars narrow. Long road race with technical descents? I'd definitely go a bit wider. I think it's a great option to have if you don't have a bunch of bikes.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

​@@jarhead4657you pick your size off of the highest stem height for this bike. If you need a higher stem, you go up in bike size and get a shorter stem. If none of the frames fit, look elsewhere which is no different than any other bike. *Endurance bike is a misnomer. Its got more to do with tire clearance and wheelbase and only a little to do with a higher head tube. More than anything for fitting average people, it just means they're not using a bunch of spacers under their stem.

[@kellywoolverton6072]

Have been wanting to try the seat post for quite some time. The handle bar idea kinda freaks me out a bit. It’s probably fine just a new idea that I’m having trouble wrapping my simple mind around.

[@theantichrome9842]

I can't wait to check one out at my local bike shop.

[@endokrin7897]

Hahaha 🤣

[@jimtompkins5910]

We just received an Endurace CF SLX for my wife. XS frame size. The effective reach - back of the saddle to the hoods - is nearly as long as my two 56cm frame road bikes. It is at least 2 inches, more like 3 inches, longer than her existing 52 cm frame road bike (her arms are straight out). I attribute the extra length to the seat post setback and the relatively long stem for this size frame. She rode an Endurace XS several years ago in Europe and it was a perfect fit. Am I right that the seat post and stem have changed the effective reach on this bike? Have not talked to a bike fitter yet. Is there any reason to think we can get the effective reach on this bike close to her 52 cm road bike?

[@PnAu1]

Do not buy this bike. I bought this bike - Endurace CF SLX 8 Di2 Aero, and it arrived with such an ugly paint job. Numbers are visible on the frame, and the bike has so many white spots, as if it wasn't properly painted. I paid €5,258.80 for the bike and got such crap. All Canyon managed to respond is that it's a special color, that it's a unique bike... and so on. I have seen many other bikes with the same color - Stealth - and none of them was in such a condition as this Canyon. Shame. For such money. Think twice! If you want, I can show you pictures. I have a lot of photos.

[@the.communist]

Its more practical for the storage place in the downtube

[@jasonyltan7672]

I’m a 2XS and it comes with 650 wheels. Complete deal breaker.

[@endokrin7897]

Oh no!

[@johnnycab8986]

That top tube storage/tool kit is peak bike marketing meme 🤣

[@divyagarh]

what is that computer mount? Not able to find it anywhere

[@stephenplays676]

Great video, thanks! BTW, just saw the comfort seatpost going through it's 20 mm of travel on Canyon's website. It does indeed rotate, and does not stay flat. It does appear that it might, but when you see it, you understand that it can't.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Got a link? I gotta go watch that.

[@Rideintotheunknown]

Generally a good bicycle with a major BUT. Those who ride for endurance would also appreciate the option to attach fenders. With the Ultimate/Aeroad, I don't need that, but here I would really like protection from the elements. The next point is the cockpit. Not a bad concept or design in general, but since the bike has become even shorter, I am certain that many would benefit from an adjustment in stem length. However, since these cockpits are not sold separately or you can't choose the length at purchase, this bike is only for those who are either very flexible in this aspect or know for sure that this geometry and stem length work for them. And then there's the price. With the previous model, there was still a version with a 'normal' stem/handlebar/seatpost for about 800-1000€ less. This price range (2000-3000€) is probably the most interesting for most people and, at least at the moment (maybe a 'cheaper' carbon frame' will come), it's not being served. Given the economic situation, this is somehow incomprehensible. If an aluminum frame is supposed to fill this gap, most customers then turn to Cube because here the price/performance ratio is even more distorted (carbon frame, 105Di2 for 2500€)

[@racerx40plus84]

Thanks Ben!

[@mikes41720]

Would the base model Canyon Endurace CF 7 or CF 8 have this new frame with the top tube storage, and one piece integrated handlebars, and fully integrated cabling? I'm wondering, because I just recently bought a 2023 Endurace CF 7 Di2.

[@ewu2030]

once it is in stock i'll order it. already have an older version of cf sl endurance and I will size down with this one. somehow, even with extra adjusting I still feel the need for shorter reach (and I can't put a 70mm stem from 100 that came with the bike). I like the whole adjustable cockpit and for the top tube storage, I guess I can try to make something similar to hold my gels...and those will not rattle.

[@twillyspanksyourcakes]

The adjustable handlebars is a solution to a problem that should not exist. Plus it compromises safety

[@hapakek1]

Hey Ben, great detailed and thorough review! I've watched this one and the Grail one. What do you think would be better for ultra races and occasional gravel? Kinda torn between the two cause while the Grail seems more can-do-it-all, I'm not sure if it's better than Endurace on long distance tarmac

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

The answer, as always, is it depends! Key variables being road surface and steepness. For me, I would lean towards an all road bike because of the wider gear range for all around riding. That would give up a bit of tire clearance and speed over rough stuff. But if you’re riding on pavement most of the time, then you are optimized for that.

[@SoulBell2024]

Hi sir i want to ask Canyon xxl frame size is good for tall riders ? I am 6.11ft tall and 84kg😢. Very hard to find perfect size bicycle . Thank you for a answear🙏🏻

[@the6thgate]

I think XXL will be too big. Canyon has a size advise on their site. I'm 1.90m with 96cm inner leg length. Therefore I need an XL frame, but because my upper body is not that long I also need a shorter stem. I hate that that's nog possible with these Endurace models so scrapped it from my shortlist.

[@renatoslife5373]

I have the Grizl 7 with front suspension, you think will be same in sizing ????

[@Heimdallar]

Great review as always! Very natural and calming video's you produce here. That top tube "tv remote" closure is bound to fail if you take it out a lot. How's the water ingress of that top tube? It doesn't seem to be IPX rated so you'' probably have water ingress during very rainy rides.

[@robertoalfalla256]

Well I just ordered this Bike.. Thanks for the Review!

[@batbawls]

How did it go / turn out?

[@robertoalfalla256]

I love it!

[@gritynity]

I bought my cf 8 LTD last year, I managed to get a bike that fit me like a glove. I did measurements to compare with the bikes I already owned. My experienced with bringing it into bike shops has been nothing but positive. Bought a new saddle from a specialized owned bike shop after getting my sit bones measured by an employee, and had an inner tube replaced from my local trek store. The trek employee was super friendly and gave me good advice on how to avoid blowing out inner tubes for future rides. As for bottle I got fidlock bottles, no need to worry about bottles and cages being incompatible or difficult to access during rides.

[@danielhurley6911]

Thanks for another helpful and unbiased review. Great content, as always. One thought - I think the Fezzari Empire is the better comparator than the Veyo (in terms of both category and price). While the Empire has been out for a few years, I believe it is very much an overlooked gem of a bike/frame. (Of course, as an owner of an Empire, I am biased.) The geometry splits the difference between a race and an endurance bike (with a lean to endurance), and the frame provides a great blend of reasonable stiffness with remarkable comfort on rough pavement. If you get a chance to try one, I hope you will do a review (though I understand with the Empire not being a new bike, such a review would not garner many views!).