New Carry In Your Car Law! Beware of Federal School Zone Law

[@imanoldgeek]

The Constitution says absolutely nothing regarding guns in schools, churches, courtrooms, police stations, etc. It simply says "shall not be infringed".

[@2ndAmendProtector]

.....I have been carrying my concealed firearm for 33 years with a concealed permit. I carry it EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE......that there is not a medal detector. If there's a medal detector, thats the ONLY time my gun is not on me. But I am also 99% sure whertever that place may be, no bad actors have a gun on them either. No gun law is ever keeping me from carrying my gun. Hell, I'm armed in Disney World, those idiots just haven't figured out how to actually keep firearms out yet. But there's no Florida statute anyone is violating by taking a gun in to the Disney World, its just a Disney rule.

[@allemander]

And yet, look how utterly useless that worthless document has proven itself to be.

[@rkba4923]

@@allemander It's only as good as the people that stand behind it and back it up!!!

[@allemander]

@@rkba4923 So, a violent, authoritarian, ruling class? That’s who you want to enFORCE arbitrary, political edicts upon everyone?

[@rkba4923]

@@allemander I want those that took oaths to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the U.S.from all enemies, foreign and domestic, ...," to fulfill their oaths.

[@myblacklab7]

As concerns federal enforcement of the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990: Where permitless carry exists, is there any legal principal that could be used to challenge the enforcement of a law that is rarely, if ever enforced, and that, if routinely enforced, would result in millions of arrests? Almost every permitless carrier violates the Gun Free School Zones Act at least once a week, and most everyday carriers probably violate it every day. The majority of permitless carriers probably can't cross the street in front of their home without violating the Act.

[@Redeyedtrucker2024]

Just because I am a commercial truck driver does not subject me to give it up by forth amendment rights. Play uninspeck me outside on my vehicle for safety. But they may not inspect the inside of my vehicle which is personal

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

this law does nothing to stop bad people from doing bad things, but it does stop the good guy that could stop the bad guy.

[@alexanderren1097]

Which is exactly what our corrupt leaders want. A population that’s in fear from both criminals and law enforcers is easier to keep under control

[@sdoates1125]

About carrying within a school zone, I called my police station and was told just to not go on school grounds with it, but I live in Alabama, so...

[@AMomentInTimeProductions]

I Talk to the FL sheriff And They Told me if your driving by a school on the street, you will have no problem.. You just can drive on the grounds of the school.. now they are some stipulations on this, first off Florida doesn't enforce the Federal School Zone Laws, in other words if you drive by a school or drying in a school zone and you get pulled over for what ever reason lets just say your tail lite was out and the officer pulled you over, and you told him your are a CCW holder and have a gun on you, Even if your only 100 feet way from the school and right in front of it on the street, they will not charge you with a crime because you have a gun in a school zone, that is a federal law not a State and they do not enforce that law what so ever.. Now if you was intending to pull on to the property of the school lets say the parking lot or directly in front of the school on the property than you are in violation of having a gun at a school. Now here is the stipulation. if you happen to be driving by a school and you have been under investigation from a federal office lets say the DEA, lets say some one reported to the DEA that you was selling drugs or the ATF, lets say some one reported that you was violation federal firearms laws such as converting semit-automatic rifles into full automatic, and lets say they been following you and you happen to drive into a school zone while they followed you, they can pull you over and arrest you on having a gun in a school zone, they can do it because it is a federal law and they can enforce it. How ever they can't just pull you over to see if you have a gun randomly to check citizens if they have a gun while driving in a school zone, NO, that is out of their jurisdiction, how ever they can if they are investigating you for what ever reason. That is the only time in Florida you an be arrested and charge for having a gun with in 1000, feet of a school, other than that No you are all set.. The other thing is if they are investigating you, they must contact the local city and county of what they are doing, the state and local law enforcement supersede the Federal law enforcement unless you are in violation of a federal crime or under investigation of one, and they notified the local and state law enforcement officials.. Just like anything else just like when lets say the DEA is going to make a drug raid at a house and has a federal warrant, the federal law enforcement (DEA) must contact the local police or county, and tell them they have a warrant and are going to execute that warrant, normally the Local law enforcement will come with them for that.. They can't just storm in and raid a house with out talking to the local law enforcement unless it was an emergency situation... Some school you can go pick up your child and Drive on the school property with a handgun, if you get permission from the school administration in writing that they are allowing this, They are some situations where you can get special permission to carry a gun on you while driving on the school property to pick up your child, but you have to get that in writing from the school administration, not the principle or teachers it must be the head school administration people.. Other exception of having a gun on school property is if your a volunteer school guardian, this is something citizens sign up for to volunteer their time to protect schools, these people are exempt like police officers from this law and able to have a gun on school property and inside the school.. In Florida they are many county's that have this program, if you want to be one check your local sheriff's office and find out how to apply, you get some perks if you do this from what i was told, such as when you renew your drivers license if you volunteer 20 hours a month or more, when you go to renew your drivers license fee is waved,, that and local hunting license, and also your CCW License as well, and i believe you have to take a 1 week training program with the Sheriff's office, i believe it's like 30 hours total hours of training class room and on the gun range.. Also Some school systems in other states allow their teachers to have a gun on them while working at the school, I don't think they allowed this yet in Florida, but they should Although i think a school principle is allowed, not 100% sure on that one for sure.. Some schools also have contracted independent armed security outfits at their schools as well, and that becomes legal, actually any one can bring a gun in a school so long as they have direct permission from the school head administration, so long as they have that they are legal, but they don't give that out often, only to special circumstances, like armed school guardian's and security outfits working for them..

[@LegalBro]

Great that solve all the problems

[@dragonf1092]

The justice department (courts) and law enforcement have been operating illegally unconstitutionally for the past 100 years.

[@rkba4923]

247!

[@allemander]

Every. Single. Cop. is the greatest threat to liberty that will ever exist.

[@geoffreygreen297]

Truth

[@AlmightyEvil1]

Welcome to the party

[@attiumeyami417]

we didn't even have cops when the constitution was written. fun fact the orgins of law enforcement (in the US) was in in the dark art of slave persecution.

[@wesleysims3819]

I was arrested last year at a city park, that has legacy signs at the entrance that state “no firearms in park”. Someone seen my pistol momentarily become exposed as my shirt blew up in the wind, and told a coach who later called. Not a school zone, but it definitely goes to show that cops don’t always know or care about the laws before they act. They snuck up behind me, pinned me against the fence & disarmed me. Then under threat of arrest they demanded ID and asked for my permit. Soon as I told them I didn’t have one, they arrested me. The thing is, I was covered by an exemption, but never got the chance to use it. Mr. Friday sure has ate em alive. I now even have an answer to a complaint that I had made on the arresting officers, in which the captain admits to the city ordinance of “no firearms in the park”. This is gonna be great!

[@scubatim_fl]

IF your in Florida preemption in 790 prohibits this. Well known by all Florida law enforcement!

[@MitchC357]

I think one of the problems with the school zone question is what if you have a FL CCW and under reciprocity travel to another state which accepts your FL gun permit such as Georgia and are stopped in a school zone. You might be in a technical violation. However, under Bruen and other Supreme Court cases, I do not believe the school zone question would be upheld. As a prior LEO and attorney, I for one will not disarm when I am driving through such a state.

[@Batmicheal]

In TN we used to have to get a permit to carry and the course instructor told us just hand them our permit with our drivers licensed because the dispatcher would advise them we have the permit anyway and this was you’re out ahead of the discovery. My experiences with handing the permit with my drivers license is that they have been friendly with me and a couple times asked me “where is the gun at this time?” “Wait there.”

[@Cowboy_up429]

In FL. Concealed licenses is not public information to include law enforcement. When they run you on a traffic stop, the system only shows your Drivers License, your registration and insurance, any past tickets. But it will NOT show if the person has a concealed license or not.

[@jlam3927]

My thoughts exactly, in the conflict with the 4th amendment. They still need reason to ask for your ID.

[@daleweller5193]

In Michigan it is on the police officers computer that you have a CPL.

[@zendean5207]

So far I'm confused. They seem to contradict one another.

[@larslarsheim1741]

Thanks for clearing this up. I had suspected there had not been any of these come to trial in Florida.

[@mrca2004]

And there probably won't. I checked with local police and they wouldn't make an arrest just if you were carrying driving past a school. In states that have legalized marijuana while it is illegally federally, they aren't arresting folks for using marijuana.

[@hazcat640]

I'd like to hear more from Mark about Stand Your Ground.

[@LegalBro]

Got it.

[@jpjones877]

Mark brings up a good point of the difference between syg and self defense

[@shootdonttalk4114]

Thank you for creating these videos. Can you go over the Constitutional carrying in Florida and address these questions: 1) Carrying in National Forest - Forest Roads (Ocala websites says its illegal to have a firearm in a National Forest unless its hunting season) 2) Carrying in State Forest 3) Carrying in Wild Life Management Area - ie.. Bull Run, Tosahatchee, ect ect 4) Carrying in a Preserve. All 4 of these that I have mentioned will probably get you a charge for poaching from the Game Wardens

[@michaelcrowley1172]

No evasive species, open season(year round)in these areas?

[@rangerrecon]

Please - Game Wardons and Park Rangers will cite you if the wind changes direction.

[@Oldguy1313]

1) Ocala National Forest = Legal to conceal year round 2) State Forest = Legal to conceal year round 3) WMAs = Legal to conceal year round 4) The Savannah State Preserve = No

[@rkba4923]

There were exactly zero founding era laws that prohibited the carrying of arms to school. As a matter of fact, the tradition was that arms should be taken to school, and church (usu. one and same at that time), in order to defend against spontaneous attacks from savages. Savages still roam our streets and highways.

[@thewkovacs316]

i suggest that you actually read real history and find out how many localities had very strict gun control laws. but i bet you believe all those stories about unrestricted gun fights in the wild wild west.

[@rkba4923]

@@thewkovacs316 You should take your own advice. Plus, the SCOTUS has said that localized laws are insufficient. They must've been universally existent and routinely applied from the founding era. Furthermore, just because a community/political power passes a law does not mean it's actually lawful/constitutional. That's why we have judicial review!

[@champy1210]

@@thewkovacs316You are wrong. The critical period is 1791. Restrictions came about during the 19th century mostly for racist reasons. If you truly care about the truth of this matter, educate yourself by consuming expert 2A atty. Mark W. Smith’s content on The Four Boxes Diner.

[@champy1210]

Correct. Additionally, SCOTUS’ nonsensical blessing of bans in school and _certain_ govt buildings does NOT include grounds or other areas.

[@thewkovacs316]

@@champy1210 you are simply ignorant. and dont cite some loon as proof of anything. why dont you do a search for "gun control in the old west" to find out how wrong and ignorant you really are and that it has nothing to do with racism. although racism was why the nra initially backed gun control laws...in the mid 20th century

[@johenry4030]

Each state has a law to immediately notify I have a Louisiana Permit and we have to notify upon interaction and our license plate and Drivers license is tied to our permit so the law enforcement officer will know we have a ccw when running plates or drivers license if we don’t tell me my ccw can be revoked 😊

[@reallyaintbuynit2018]

My TN carry permit shows up when Florida runs my tag. It wasn't that way before. How do I know that? My brother is FHP. I am not sure Florida carry permit holders show up when you run the tag. Never asked him.

[@PRT7092]

In your discussion of the school zones, you make no distinction between carrying concealed in the vehicle, and having a firearm in a closed container in your trunk, or in the non passenger section of a vehicle without a trunk, (SUV). I think this is confusing things since I believe the latter is legal when without a CWL. If without a CWL, you might ask if the container locked in the trunk, or positioned in the back of the SUV, must be locked independent of the trunk, or rear door of the vehicle? Do you need a shade in the case of the SUV?

[@randallweese1885]

Law Enforcement (mostly)asks if there are any weapons/firearms on your person or in your car.

[@LegalBro]

Good afternoon my name is Deputy lotter with the sheriffs office are there any guns, knives, drugs, or anything illegal inside this vehicle.

[@newhorizon1355]

​​@@LegalBro believe a person has every right to stand on the 5th Adm. No one has to incriminate themselves or answer questions. If u stopped a person for speeding, as long as they give u dl, insurance, and registration they don't have to say Jack . Please if I am wrong please cite Supreme Court saying they have to?

[@user-ARK1547]

​@@LegalBro in my state they won't get anything but my driver's license proof of insurance and registrations In my state were not required to inform them of weapons or give them anything further than those three items. Less conversion less issues ,as police like to take small investigative questions and turn them into more than what it is 😂 . Invoke those rights and if they persists ,I tell them your reason for stoping me is for what probable cause, and if they state that reason . I don't answer questions further and then if they keep going I tell them I would be happy to answer your questions but not without an attorney present sir or mame. Less evidence for the state for a civil ticket or anything else for that matter is best . Silence is golden and keeps you with the upper hand over investigative questions at traffic stops or anywhere else questioned . 🤣 They want you to admit guilt so it's a open and shut case for the state . My favorite is when they say where are you coming from I turn around point and say that way and when they say where are you headed to ,I look forward point and say this way . 🤣🤣 They aren't amused by it, but, the invasive personal questions shouldn't be answered .

[@allemander]

I ignored the repeated weapons question a month ago in Georgia and it provoked the cop to aggressively go hands-on and forcibly search me and remove my legally-carried firearm from beneath my clothing and then he lied after disarming me by claiming he saw a bulge. I was only being confronted (not even a traditional traffic stop) on a public sidewalk where I was standing when they initially approached and surrounded me because I had been slowly riding my electric scooter on public roads, which is legal under state law, but the cop claimed it was not allowed within the specific municipality. I was even strongly advised to only ride it on sidewalks, which is explicitly prohibited by state law. Crazy! Wasn’t my 4th amendment to be secure in my person & effects violated when I was searched without my consent and subsequently disarmed?? I was extremely mild-mannered, peaceful, soft-spoken, polite and showed zero indications of aggression or attempts to flee. I uploaded the encounter a month ago. Please watch it.

[@krabysniper]

I do not answer questions. Am I free to go? Only response you need make to stupid questions like that, unless you are actually being arrested.

[@toxicwaste3120]

I love what you're doing, I'm a law-abiding citizen and these law's are just a little bit confusing we need exact information on this, because it's kinda scary, I'm probably just going to get my concealed carry license/permit,it just seems more safe 💯

[@LegalBro]

🇺🇸

[@ChrisMcLaughlin-l1v]

The benefits far outweigh the cost.

[@thomassutton454]

Just to clarify, local officers in Florida CAN make an arrest for a federal felony. See Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387, 455 (2012) (Alito, J., Concurring in Part) (recognizing the premise that "state and local officers do have inherent authority to make arrests in aid of federal law"). Under Florida Statute 901.15(2), a law enforcement officer may arrest a person without a warrant when a "felony has been committed and he or she reasonably believes that the person committed it." This statute does not distinguish between a state felony or federal felony, and "felony" is not defined in the chapter. I still agree that this would be a very slim chance of occurring, however. It would really be more of a pretextual move if it ever did happen, I would imagine.

[@HGAviator]

Does the "Castle Doctrine" apply while in your POV (Privately Owned Vehicle)? If so, aren't you considered on privet property, therefore driving with a weapon within 1000' of a school is leagal?

[@allemander]

Every law is designed to imprison or extort you.

[@shawngildersleeve9831]

Can y'all do a video on the difference between constitutional carry and traditional Concealed carry with a permit?

[@flyoverkid55]

I live in Ohio. Under our concealed carry law, we had a pre-emptive notification clause which is no longer valid by virtue of our permitless carry law. The pre-emptive disclosure was not considered cause to remove nor cause for vehicle search. I can't imagine it would be under Florida law as it violates 4th Amendment rights. The Federal Gun Free zone act makes it all the more prudent for a person to obtain a permit, your feelings on the matter notwithstanding.

[@krabysniper]

Real Americans do not bend a knee and request permission to excersise their RIGHTS. You just go ahead and keep licking them jack🥾's, 🐑.

[@sammyfl7]

Thank you for keeping us informed 👍

[@stevenhiggs4553]

I do have a question and this is basically all states Walmart says that you can’t carry your firearm in the store but if someone sees it, they call the cops and have you arrested because you’re carrying a gun. I have seen this numerous times and different states these people have concealed weapons permit, but the cops still will take their gun and arrest them for having it in Walmart but Walmart policy states that you are You are legally free to carry a gun in Walmart, so anybody who takes a gun in Walmart you’re putting your life in your hand I’ve seen it happen numerous times

[@LegalBro]

Do you have a link to one in FL?

[@daffidavit]

Does a local municipal court have federal jurisdiction over somebody who drives in a school zone without an LTC?

[@robertwatson818]

I am getting tied of having to consult an attorney just to drive to another state. This did not clarify the statute. It did exactly the opposite. So---if you have a concealed weapons permit you may not conceal the weapon on your person?? Florida now has "no permit" concealed carry. Does this invalidate that statute?? Changing venue should not nullify a statute.

[@robertwatson818]

Myself as well. I read this to prevent carry in a vehicle other than the firearm being cased and stored away. Cops will leap on this revised statute to arrest people carrying firearms in their vehicles.

[@Watchingyou-daily]

Safe passage for that allows people to bring their firearms across state lines should protect someone traveling through a school zone, but not someone going directly on school grounds other than pick up so if someone was going to pick up a child and be their limited, not getting out of their vehicle I do believe they would be protected under the safe passage law, as well as the carry laws in the state of Florida

[@kevingaston1896]

What state or federal law is there pertaining to carrying a weapon in a commercial vehicle?

[@mrthomaslaux1]

Do pre-schools, vocasional and private schools matter? What if the school is on a main road? What if the school is closed (at that time)?

[@joebright4607]

I’ve had a concealed weapons permit more than thirty years. I have generally been forthcoming in serious situations where I was at fault in traffic issues. It’s been decades since, I informed the police officer that I was armed, and the cop simply asked me if I intended to shoot him. I said “ of course not”. I was clearly at fault as Florida had just passed a law that the vehicle in the rear held responsibility. This was in the 80’s. He asked me for my story, so I told him. In spite of a five car collision, he gave me a seatbelt ticket because I broke my nose and the seatbelt rules were new as well. He told me that he wouldn’t have ticketed me but he was afraid of a lawsuit, because I had followed every safety precaution outside of the new seatbelt law and I had an obvious broken nose. It was an actual accident, not a mere collision, and the police officer treated it as such. I was returning from the range, with my weapon in my glove box. Secured. At fourteen I had a hunting license and would bring my shotgun to school and lean it against the wall of the principals office, along with my satchel of necessities and my license.. It saved me a two mile walk to my hunting grounds on farmland I had permission to hunt. I fell of grid after the military for about eight years. What the hell happened ? Two teenagers walking down the street with shotguns, or rifles would be approached by numerous neighbors asking “ what’s for dinner, or what time should they come over ? We fished, hunted, crabbed, dug up oyster beds, and even chopped wood to create a feast for the neighbors to take part in the feast. Now everyone is insane ! Psychologists have convinced people that there are a zillion disorders. The only disorder is that dad has been thrown out of the house. Back in the day 9-10 doctors, clergy, parents, teachers, were all in agreement of the disease. It was called “ants in the pants”, and 9-10 agreed that the cure was to “swat those ants”. It worked. There were no psycho kids, hopped up on psychedelic drugs. You wonder about school shooting ? It has nothing to do with the guns. Outlaw psychology.

[@kamaeq]

If I read that, I can have a weapon securely encased in my vehicle, but cannot carry it on my person, even in my secured container? So, I cannot remove the secured container from my vehicle except on private property with permission of the owner? What if I'm operating another vehicle other than a motor vehicle?

[@boowiebear]

Thank you for the video. I moved from MN and had a CWFL for reciprocity reasons. I have always carried concealed in my car and didn’t realize I could only do that with the CWFL. I guess I will renew it in 2026.

[@seanpanza1970]

Thanks great info.

[@BobSmith-ve7gu]

"There is no state crime"... the 1k feet is a state crime, right? Because 790.06 also includes in the list of places anywhere that is illegal under federal law. Also, can you do a video on how this would affect people carrying at churches that share ground with a school, under HB259 from 2021?

[@lParohlx]

During church it’s legal. During school session it is not.

[@BobSmith-ve7gu]

@@lParohlx please state your source. This is not what the bill text says in its plain reading.

[@newhorizon1355]

Jeff lotter has already addressed the school versus religious services in some of his videos. Just review them he breaks it down.

[@Denver_____]

Sunday school counts?

[@lourivera9794]

I am a retired federal court investigator and saw hundreds of federal gun cases however I never saw one involving a legal CCW carrier getting charged federally in a school zone and nearly 24 years. 95% of the cases involve drugs.

[@doc693]

Does my weapon have to be holstered to carry on my person?

[@LegalBro]

No.

[@doc693]

@@LegalBro Thank you.

[@Off-Season-Reptiles-Nieko]

What about while in the car?

[@CentralFloridaHipHop]

You should still carry with a holster though

[@myblacklab7]

In Florida, it has to be concealed. If it isn't in a holster, and if there is an accidental discharge, you'll be up a creek. My personal opinion would be that just putting a loaded gun in your pocket is generally a bad idea, although you could mitigate that risk by being careful not to carry with one in the chamber. When a gun is being jostled around, it's pretty easy for a manual safety to be disengaged, and not impossible for a trigger to get snagged on something, but it's unlikely that you would accidentally rack the slide. (Edit: I'm assuming that you're not talking about a revolver).

[@slb_clip]

What about if you’re dropping off/picking up your kids on the school car line and you’re a CCW holder. Can you have the gun in your car legally? Also what about if you walk to pick up your kids and it’s concealed on you in an IWB holster and you have a CCW?

[@LegalBro]

I’ll address that an upcoming video

[@1watersthree]

Just leave your weapon in your car under those circumstances. Unless you commit some crime then a cop shouldn’t have a reason to be questioning you or asking for your consent to search your vehicle. Besides you’re only going to be there for a minute or two because once your kids get dropped off or get in your vehicle you’re getting off school property quickly anyway.

[@hanelyp1]

Any "sensitive place" without an affirmative security perimeter is self evidently absurd. Without a marked boundary is even worse.

[@user-yd3uh4pz5e]

Learned a lot, thank you!

[@stephentthomas]

I was just referring my brother to your videos, saying your info is VERY reliable. He doesn't have a carry license and always asks ME for legal advice about carry and carry in a vehicle (I get my info from YOU). I added that you're based in the Central Florida area, and I started this video to show him. He said he thinks it may have been you he saw yesterday when he was getting a haircut. He said some attorney was talking about this new law. Were you getting a haircut yesterday?

[@LegalBro]

I appreciate that - Not me

[@seanptaco]

So can the gun be loaded while it's in your vehicle concealed in your glove compartment?

[@robertwatson818]

So---with the state now recognizing permitless carry does this new law constitute a "license"? Do I need the permit to be able to drive through a school zone? At a distance of 1000 feet from a school zone---with the limits unmarked---how do you know you are within the school zone? Are these limits clearly defined? What markers are used to define the borders?

[@deebee4575]

It seems the state permit exempts you from the Federal law on School Zones

[@jrams2022]

Really good content.... thanks.

[@brianjones8432]

So here's my question..... Since we can now conceal carry without a permit in the state of FL, does this negate the previous car laws? Can we now conceal carry as the driver of the vehicle? And while I likely would inform an officer that I had a firearm, am I required to regardless of being in a car or not if asked or otherwise??

[@wilsonle61]

When I was a Sheriff's Deputy I could not arrest anyone for violation of Federal law unless duly deputize by the feds. Which, I never was.

[@Bwanar1]

The other thing is, no one living within 1000ft of a school gun can even have a gun at home (private property) without a CCP, because they have to get it there and that act would cause a violation. Absolutely absurd!

[@mendozaconsultation]

From what I heard, if a cop runs your plate and you have a ccw, it comes up. With the new CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY law, they won't know.

[@tyronetrump1612]

No it doesn't - all they are checking is the registration and your DL is valid and no warrants

[@llewellyn56]

The safest when get pulled over, I always hand both identifications make everything with ease.

[@darkseid8481]

I thought you cant use stand your ground to protect private property? Am I misunderstanding the florida law?

[@rvdogfl]

My understanding is you can only use deadly force to protect life and not property. After watching the video I am confused like you.

[@LegalBro]

My stand your ground here in last week was over a dog. That’s property.

[@debbievines9872]

I thought your car was an extension of your home in Florida. This is why I laugh when I hear a lawyer on one of these videos say know the laws in every state. There are so many anymore there is no way to even know the laws in your state, much less every state.

[@rangerrecon]

The whole school zone thing is why I keep my carry permit even in a constitutional carry state. I talked to a couple of local law enforcement officers and even they have carry permits for when they are off-duty, carrying, and driving through a school zone. And, of course, it would seem that the law for no firearms in a school zone hasn't been successful in preventing any school shootings...

[@jjgisfree2]

I like listening to real Lawyers not a person who has just a CWL instructor card. I am a JD graduate. Keep talking Lawyers. I have learned more after law school in months by listening to Bar passed folks who are out in the field of law.. Now I know how to conduct myself.

[@Oldguy1313]

Not all instructors speak opinions. Some of us actually read and learn the statutes.... Doesn't require a law degree to understand words. Biggest issue is the instructors who spew BS and just look at the job as a money making certificate farm. (which there's a lot)

[@BullockInvestments]

JUST SUBSCRIBED... Excellent video gentlemen.

[@clintmiller3654]

as pertaining to the federal law of carrying a gun in a school zone and the exemption "unless private property", i think your car is considered your private property and as long as you are legal to possess a gun and it is not out in the open (concealed) you should be clear from any laws being broken. "provided you are rightfully permitted to carry a gun. Florida Statute § 790.06(12)(b) reads: “A person licensed under this section shall not be prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes.” New question then arises " now that the state of florida is a permit-less carry, so now more people are exempt from this law of carrying on school grounds as long as they are not illegal of possessing"?

[@douglasedward227]

what Jurisdiction of law are you guys using ?

[@LegalBro]

Florida

[@jacka55six60]

My understanding of the 1,000 feet Federal school law: If you *don't* have a CCW, it's only legal in your car if locked in a gun case, unloaded and out of reach. The problem permitless carry is that YOU WILL drive within 1,000ft of school property even if you stay on the highway while passing through any town or city.

[@rvdogfl]

That is the way I see it if you want to stay in the letter of the law. It is just like being out of state with a Florida CCW and driving by a school you are breaking the federal 1000 feet law.

[@LegalBro]

I’ll have to look at the Law again. According to what you posted. Is it your understanding if I have my CCW permit and I’m driving in another state. My CCW permit from Florida does not authorize me to carry with an 1000 feet of a school zone because my concealed carry permit is not issued from the state I am in?

[@rvdogfl]

@@LegalBro Yes that is how I understand the law. A Florida CCW is no good in any other state if you drive within 1000 feet of a school. /I(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law oft:he State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtain such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;

[@jacka55six60]

@@LegalBro I was talking about permitless carry but you bring up a valid question. If the state you’re traveling in doesn’t recognize your permit, will the Feds regard it as valid?

[@eliq2980]

Under current standards, police can do a license check on you anytime following a traffic stop. The license check will also pull up your LTC. In Texas, we are required to hand over both.

[@Cowboy_up429]

In FL. The system will not show them if a person has a concealed license at a traffic stop.

[@JWest-so8ok]

Re: FSZL. There is no way for a Florida college student, ages 18-20, to legally maintain a firearm in their vehicle?

[@LegalBro]

Go work for the campus police?

[@JWest-so8ok]

@@LegalBro Good idea, I like the way you think. My daughter is starting her pre-med, won't have time.

[@rohawaha]

Well technically if you are traveling past a school sitting in your car , you are sitting in/on your private property.

[@scrapeyhawkins5299]

Once you change title and register ANYTHING...ITS NO LONGER PRIVATE

[@SemberUno]

Thanks for making this video, I think it's kind of dumb that you can carry concealed most places but not your own vehicle. I wonder what other differences there are between permit and permetless carry.

[@LegalBro]

Thank you for the comment. I think I’ve discussed that in a previous video.

[@erockscott1184]

I think the ONLY logical reason 1000 feet is the distance would be for example a SNIPER RIFLE...a handgun isn't gonna be used about 1000 feet...???, yet a rifle or shotgun can be carried in a truck openly legally like in a rack...yet a handgun at 1000 feet???...thats dumb

[@henryechezabal758]

Logic requires that the thousand foot rule is an added, “Gotcha” for anyone who is apprehended, as a suspect, who is in a preexisting condition of UN-lawful possession. It does not transform the status from, otherwise, lawful into un-lawful.

[@cpono]

Is a school zone a school zone 24/7? Meaning after 6p, 7p, 8p, etc, is it still considered a school and I'm not able to carry? Likewise during summer, when there no summer school.

[@FC-qe1wl]

In NJ they will arrest you fir possession of a firearm within one thousand feet from a school, in your house if it happens to be in that zone ...

[@govea_alex3251]

at what age can you carry while fishing ?

[@DukeMc678]

What do we do about unconstitutional bills like SB7026

[@_zoinks2554]

Good thing the Sheriff and local police only enforce state law. Thank you Founding Fathers (US Constitution) for decentralized law enforcement.

[@carlosmartinez-wk5xx]

I'm retired police officer, ,I carry a concealed weapon under the law enforcement officer safety act privilege , HR 218, , my question is , that federal law "school gun free zone" applies to us even if we are out of state at the moment? Thanks in advance in advance for your opinion!

[@DJPitBear]

If you're in your car and on " public roads " they shouldn't be able to stop you from carrying, unless you're going to go onto School property 🤔🤔🤔🤔😬😬😬😬

[@FordF250Tremor]

One major point of confusion you did not speak to. In Florida and a lot of other states, what happens in a school zone if you are stopped? Does state law trump federal school zone law?

[@myblacklab7]

Federal law trumps state law, so it's a question of enforcement, and state authorities are not required to enforce federal laws. If the federal government decided to heavily enforce the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990, then basically everyone who carries a gun on their person would be deemed a criminal, since it's effectively impossible to travel anywhere without coming within 1,000 feet of a school. Even in the country, one would have to plot where all the schools are, and plan one's route accordingly. A huge number of people would be deemed criminals as soon as they stepped off their property, because millions of people live within 1,000 feet of a school zone.

[@debbievines9872]

​@@myblacklab7This is the biggest thing wrong with Federal and state laws. They never take old ones that are never in use off the books. It should be a law that for every new law passed, 3 old never used laws should be removed.

[@myblacklab7]

@@debbievines9872 I agree, but in this particular case, the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990 is still an active law, even though the part about having a gun within 1,000 feet of school property is rarely enforced, except when someone is actually on school property, or is acting suspicious around school property. I think they should change the law.

[@JamesDowler]

So as a parent with a concealed carry permit can I pick up my child from school in the car line? And what about a school bus stop?

[@dragonf1092]

The US supreme Court "The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose since it's unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment... In legal contemplation it is as inoperative as if it had never been passed... Since an unconstitutional law is void the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no right, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection and justifies no acts performed under it. A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supercede any existing law. Indeed insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land (the constitution)it is superceded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it." Bonnet V. Vallier, 16 NW. 885,136 Wis. 193(1908); Norton V. Shelby county,118 US 425(1886). Article 4 section 2 paragraph 1 The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states. Amendment 14 section 1 No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states 14th amendment section 1 Nor deny to any person within it's jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this rulling the atf is a illegal unconstitutional organization, group, association they have no legal lawful authority or jurisdiction to enforce anything on anyone in the united states of America, and the NFA, GCA, and all gun control laws are not legally binding enforceable laws.

[@pushonline1568]

I’m still confused! Can you or can you NOT conceal carry on your person without a pert it since there is not constitutional / permit-less carry? If you have a permit, can you? I have licenses from PA, AZ, etc… so I guess it doesn’t matter

[@garyhorner1825]

Would it be reasonable to avoid a possible crime, is getting a state issued CCW advisable?

[@michaelperine2780]

I was pulled in a traffic stop. I kept my hands on the wheel until the cop got to my window. I disclosed that I had a weapon in the center consol and that I had a CCW. He asked me to step out of the car, checked my CCW, and then let me off with a warning for the traffic violation. I think cops appreciate disclosure of firearms during a stop. It may get you out of a ticket.

[@trapperjohn2462]

Your information regarding carrying a weapon in your care appears to be outdated when considering the new concealed carry law in Florida. However, the "trap" still exists when traveling through a school zone while carrying "concealed" without a permit. Correct me, if I am wrong.

[@LegalBro]

This video was made with the new law in mind. Tell me what’s outdated

[@trapperjohn2462]

@@LegalBro Maybe I don't fully understand the new permit less concealed carry law in Florida, but my understanding of the law would make it a moot point of how you transport a weapon in your automobile. Why would you need to carry a pistol encased in your glove box when you can legally carry it on your person?

[@darrinalsdorf3254]

I find the new "must provide ID" under this law is apposing 109.151. If carrying concealed is not a crime, why do I have to ID just because I'm carrying concealed?

[@michigunder1522]

How can a consititutionaly acknowleded natural right be then considered an activity that is inheritently dangerous and subject to regulation? Bruen is supposed to have moved the 2A to a one-test right just like all other rights.

[@nramorrisg8415]

Stand-your-ground laws is a great law because it is a sensible law.

[@thewkovacs316]

it is? based on what?

[@imanoldgeek]

@@thewkovacs316 The right to defend ourselves and our property dates back a thousand years or more.

[@thewkovacs316]

@@imanoldgeek fine...then use the weapons that were available a thousand years ago.

[@imanoldgeek]

@@thewkovacs316 Okay, YOU defend your home and family with a bronze sword. I'll stick with firearms. By your thinking, history and progress are irrelevant to society. Tell me, are you a charter member of the Flat Earth Society? Your cognitive ability hints at that.

[@brandonUwanawich954]

@@thewkovacs316there’s the Karen

[@tincanboat]

is it legal for an officer to ask you if you have weapons or drugs in the car?? In the case of illegal drugs would that not be self incrimination??

[@LibertyWarrior1776]

This ID requirement of this new Statute is still in direct contradiction with FS 901.151 Clause II. There must be Suspicion of a Crime and an Articulable Fact which rises to Probable Cause to compel ID.

[@SeanCarannaA9Y]

You have to carry a driver's license and present it on demand when driving. Catch is that the demand must be lawful. Same applies to ID while carrying. "A potentially lawful activity cannot be the sole basis for a detention. If this were allowed, the Fourth Amendment would be eviscerated." Kilburn v. State, 297 So. 3d 671, 675 (Fla. 1st DCA 2020)

[@ce4015]

Your ID is personal information and requires a warrent to exploit as with medical records. Demanding ones ID to percicute the person is unconstitutional. Federal law enforcement is also unconstitutional. Government doesn't control citizens of the republic.

[@LibertyWarrior1776]

@@SeanCarannaA9Y You must "present" a driver's license only if in the act of Driving per the contract you entered into when applying for and receiving your Driver's License. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with exercising a Constitutional Right Reading the new Permitless Conceal Carry law there is no contract entered into such as when you contract for a driver's license. That brings us full circle to FS 901.151 which precedes the new Carry law and no provisions to change 901.151 were added to the Bill. Given that no new exceptions were added to 901.151 , it remains that ID must only be Presented under the current standard of that statute. The ID requirement for driving and any form of Constitutional Carry are apples and oranges.

[@michaelmassetti2575]

Good to know

[@mtthom8630]

Never answer questions period. Never give up your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS…..

[@thewkovacs316]

what could go wrong?

[@LegalBro]

I love it when a plan comes together.

[@lpd1snipe]

You really think the police are going to know the new laws? The local police still don't know the old laws. I'm still getting hassled when I go fishing while open carrying because the local Barney fife's don't know that 790.(3)(h) exists. You know, the law that you can legally open carry while fishing. I carry copies of the law with me to educate them.

[@kamaeq]

Which is an issue because it appears that any ongoing professional education either is candy arse box checking or not present.

[@LegalBro]

Part of the interview I asked Attorney Mark Conan his estimation on what percentage of attorneys know FL gun law. His response is interesting. But it didn’t make the cut for the video.

[@lpd1snipe]

@kamaeq Yep, the last time they came, the cop said they got a call that there was a guy here at the dock with a gun. I looked at him and said, "Well, now there are two of us." The look on his face was priceless.

[@dragonf1092]

Police only know illegal unconstitutional laws and illegally enforce them committing crimes by doing so.

[@Loverest123]

Isn’t there also a law if your stopped (by state police) in your car, your car is your castle or a part of your house.

[@hubster4477]

If stopped by cops in michigan you have to tell them you are carrying.

[@Nightfighter82]

Second Circuit Court of Appeals recently ruled that a cop did NOT have Qualified Immunity for an unconstitutional search and seizure for handcuffing a man and putting him in his car and then searching his entire vehicle. The reason the cop gave? The mere presence of a fire arm, he said, gave him the authority to do all of that. Even though the driver PROVIDED his Conceal Carry Permit at the outset of the traffic stop. The cop claimed he had the right to ignore the CCP until he took the time to verify it. Under this decision, police are now on notice that a CCP MUST be treated a valid UNLESS and UNTIL it’s determined not to be. The cop tried to hide behind that the gun was a dangerous weapon but the Court didn’t buy that argument. And this is a Court that isn’t usually friendly to the 2nd Amendment. Now, thats not controlling in Florida (11th Circuit I believe) but plaintiffs can use it to show that police are on notice that this type of conduct violates the 4th and 5th Amendment and implicates the 2nd, though it wasn’t necessary for this case.

[@charlesnash2748]

IMO, you are always better off telling an LEO that you are a lawful concealed carry holder and that you are carrying. Then ask the officer what do you want me to do ? In my gun friendly state, the usual response is don't show me yours, you won't see mine.

[@LegalBro]

I respectfully disagree.

[@charlesnash2748]

@@LegalBro You may disagree but I would rather have an LEO know that I am carrying very early in an encounter rather than discovering it later and over-reacting. There are numerous incidents where people have been hurt (shot) by LEOs who freaked out when they discovered that the person they had stopped was carrying.

[@ronjohnson9032]

In Michifornia, you have to let law enforcement know that you are carrying.

[@deebee4575]

I was with a friend when he got pulled over. We were both carrying concealed but he was of course, the driver. He did choose to inform the cop and the cop got quite nervous and animated and said something to the effect of, "why are you telling me that Did I ask you that? KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL AND STAY IN THE CAR!!". The last sentence he was practically yelling at the guy. What I took from this is if they don't ask, I'm not voluntary anything. I will simply hand my drivers license over, and keep my hands on the wheel until to do differently.

[@topsecret2974]

I am super concerned and the fact people will be arrested or subject to arrest to anyone driving with a firearm

[@PC-uh6hk]

If you are driving on a limited access highway and it is within a thousand feet from a school, how does that law make sense? Your driving 70 miles an hour and you're within a thousand feet of a school for less than ten seconds.

[@jvick9241]

You're exactly right. The 1000' limit basically means a 1/2 mile circle or square. I can't leave my house w/o passing through a school zone. The GFSZA needs rescinded as it protects nobody.

[@stanhenderson-oz6sb]

May not… please define?

[@daleweller5193]

It’s almost impossible to drive anywhere without being Les then 1000 ft of a school!

[@warrenb8228]

Federal officials don’t do traffic stops. Local law enforcement doesn’t enforce federal laws. … so who is enforcing these laws?

[@MrRdvs87]

School zones only apply to permitted people from THAT state. Reciprocity doesn’t seem to apply here. Duty to inform laws, when used in conjunction with the gun free school act are repugnant to the 5th amendment. Not enforced, cool but it’s still dangerous to have hanging over your head as you visit another state.

[@rrich52806]

Non from Florida

[@GH-cp9wc]

In most cities you can't drive without being within 3 football fields of a school zone that you may not even be able see.