The BIGGEST Legal Trap For Gun Owners EVER?!

[@AttyTomGrieve]

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[@petrawagner4946]

This was THE biggest turn off for me when this constitutional carry law came out. I also knew even before reading about it that there would inevitably be some obtuse wording in the massive law, to ensure that the regime can always get someone on something. It's how most laws are these days. I wish laws would return to plain language and not require a law degree and days of time, to read and understand. My international business law courses killed me. I found I had a head for it but ti was so convoluted and everything could be looked at in different ways to come to different (desired?) outcomes. It's the sickness of today.

[@williamschaefer1822]

2a is simply written. The gun free zone is illegal.

[@victorbruce5772]

State Constitutional amendment for medical marijuana, passed with more than 70% of vote. In all the news for years up to the second vote, it was never reported or explained, and voters never told that registration required to get the medical MJ, meant you could NOT buy or have a gun. Forced to give up 5th and 2nd amendment rights to get medicine. Even though the terrible THC in marijuana was FDA approved and DEA rescheduled class 2 in 1985 as the pharmaceutical Marinol. And, rescheduled again as class 3 in 1999. Making the THC class 1, 2 and 3. USDOH patented medical marijuana in 2001, Pat. 6630507. And now, CBD and Hemp are legal again.What part of marijuana is still illegal? DOJ is fighting medical marijuana and declared in Court, people who use intoxicating marijuana can't be trusted to have firearms. Filing records of historical precedence of denying groups of people the right to have firearms, including Catholics, American Indians, etc. Who's next? Nikki Fried v. U.S.

[@kiasax2]

While I didn't complete law school, I researched and wrote Appellate Court briefs that were highly successful for my firm. (I was also compensated like Mike Vick's dogs😅) What I found I excelled at was prevailing in hearings. I had a friend who was fired unjustly. As I was the only person he knew involved in law, he called me. I filed the relevant paperwork and prepared our battle plan. I knew the woman who made the claims about my friend could be very emotional and I was sure to place her at the top of my witness list, just in case the opposition would try to keep her out of the hearing. The day came and sure enough I triggered her on the witness stand with zero theatrics on my part. Using a calm voice, my questions began very matter-of-fact-like and became more and more pointed until she revealed, with no prompting on my part, that she'd had an affair with my friend and had never told him she was married. Her desire to have him fired was exposed and my friend was thus entitled to a severance package and unemployment benefits. Job done! At that time I was on a 9-month hiatus from my government contract position and wanted to check out other potential career paths. It was quickly clear that I much preferred what I was doing and that my pre-law days belonged as my post-law days. Not one bit of any of my history would help me in the least if I had to use one of my firearms and killed someone who was trying to kill me or someone in my family. I went through a home invasion back 30 years ago that saw me nearly charged with everything from attempted murder to riding my bicycle against the wind in a Sunday wearing green socks. It was touch and go. Since I didn't have a gun at the time, I put a samurai sword all the way through the PCP hopped up lunatic that tried to kill me and my girlfriend. It was horrific. He and I fought for at least an hour and my entire apartment was destroyed. It took running him through with the sword before I got him out of my apartment and I'm a combat vet with a lot of close quarters combat experience. Also I'm a martial artist. I fought in Judo tournaments, know BJJ, and I boxed for 3 years. When fighting someone on PCP you have no chance. They feel no pain. Thank you for this information!

[@m1a1abrams93]

And the funny thing is the Constitution & Bill of Rights were written for the common citizen to understand. But yet somehow these felonious laws take presedence in the USA.

[@p39483]

It's for selective enforcement. They can modulate your actual sentence from 1 to 100 years. Each crime, even serious ones, carry a low penalty alone. It's necessary to throw the book at someone.

[@andybreglia9431]

I'd love to see the Bruen analysis. I can't imagine this sort of horse hockey existing back in 1776.

[@djzacmaniac]

Prosecutors make the worst defense lawyers

[@SanitysVoid]

Well I live within 1000 feet of a school. Come arrest me.

[@aaronroth4142]

How come when I was in high school with a graduating 2004 we were able to park our trucks in front of the school with our guns we just couldn't bring them on school property but we can leave in the gun rack in our trucks in front of the school literally 10 ft from the school property

[@DarkBrandon-oz9cn]

You better know the laws before you carry!!! Where you live and where you go. Laws vary state to state!

[@alegroman4294]

Tom, how about if you live across from a local elementary school and you have firearms in your house? Does the gun-free school zones apply?

[@brentmenier3442]

In other words the judge and law makers are trying to make sure u are against the law …too many Lawson books

[@andrewbrumagen3479]

There's a school by us, we can carry a weapon on my person but we wanna get my more training first. I don't want to go to prison for that. I have to check out schools in our town. Again if we are licensed to carry a weapon that's okay? Because we will take the test to carry anyway to travel by car to the south to visit my sister in law and her husband. That's good thing to know.

[@pkettler]

Hey, Tom, don’t all those gun free school zones constitute too many “sensitive places” in conflict with the mandate of Bruen?

[@non-binaryjesus]

What a bullshit law. I doubt anyone would be prosecuted for just driving by.

[@rll9911]

You're forgetting to add school trust properties! Some of which used to be good hunting areas!

[@ccoop2416]

We must make laws to keep law abiding citizens safe from false imprisonment 😢

[@johnsutherland168]

Freedom is the absence of legislation. Do you want to be free or do you want to be controlled by government? Is there something wrong with natural law?

[@tim4cn759]

We can't make the laws unless people who love this country get off their ass and get into the senate congress and city positions and state positions

[@robertwilber1909]

we need to get progressive soaks out of government

[@alxfort39]

@@tim4cn759 really? you think that isnt already happening but these blue states will never allow you to either run or have a 1% chance of actually winning because they rig elections

[@weslydarnold3536]

That's easy, just fire and imprison those who betrayed the constitution

[@212caboose]

"school zone" should be immediately around the school. i.e. the immediate perimeter around the school. NOT a huge swath of land around the school.

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

remove the zone it should just be a school

[@TheRealSwampOperator]

School property is far enough.. even though I'm don't agree with it, I'll stay of school property... But the 1000 foot zone around that property, that is all public or private property not owned by the school, is too far and they can kiss my ass

[@sethtenrec]

@@Firstamongstslowbois yeah gun rights versus kids. I know where you stand.

[@yourlocalfbiagent1624]

@@sethtenrec a no gun zone wont stop a criminal its literally useless

[@grandperspective1167]

Your a bug without a gun, with a gun your a normal human! I hope you don’t get stepped on by a bad human! Guns don’t kill people! People kill people! Some people are bad people! Some people are good people!

[@thatguy6207]

My home is within 1000 ft. The government is unlawfully and unconstitutionally controlling my property use without compensation.

[@RonL-y3v]

At 2:15 exceptions; private property.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

I believe, there is an exception for residents living within the zone. Check the law for specifics.

[@ElementofKindness]

So weird how one can be convicted for something that Shall Not Be Infringed.

[@CardConnect369]

You don't know your rights you have none. Never sign contracts that's the trap. Oh but you got your driver's liscense that's where it started

[@clintonhiler4726]

Article 6 of the constitution for the united states. Know your rights

[@beatlesrgear]

@@clintonhiler4726 All laws shall be the supreme law of the land IF they comply with the US Constitution, and they do not violate it.

[@sethtenrec]

@@beatlesrgear so as long as you’re in a well regulated militia, you’re in good shape with your guns

[@denverlilly3669]

No one said you can't have the gun, just not on school property.

[@Panama714]

I live directly across the street from a school. Obvious I qualify for the private property exception, but how can I leave my house armed? The moment I exit my property in any direction, I'm in the school zone.

[@albing1397]

Former client here. Why can't anybody use USC 18 Sec 241, 242 to go after government officials for these unconstitutional gun control laws? Put the Govs, legislators and judges in jail!

[@BeardMan01]

It's outlined in the federal code, but the problem is the Supreme Court doesn't simply follow the constitution. They follow the "legal climate" of the country. It's bullshit, and as citizens, we have absolutely no recourse. We pretend to be a constitutional republic, but our officials operate as if we are a democracy. Democracy is basically mob rule, and does not represent our constitution.

[@jeffreybrooks8643]

Absolutely! When there are no penalties for the government officials or agents trying to thwart our rights, then they will keep doing so. Take them all to task, and take them all to jail!

[@excitationofstereocilia2103]

Cant this USC code just get brought up at the time if they are trying to prosecute you and it will get thrown out?

[@BeardMan01]

@@excitationofstereocilia2103 Because the only thing they respond to is lawsuits ever since qualified immunity was "invented." There are no real repercussions, and to them, no rights were violated if you don't sue. This is what happens when you remove accountability.

[@lonniebeal6032]

The anybody is the justice system owned by democraps.

[@williamschaefer1822]

4 words: SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

[@dazlin6447]

My father went to elementary and high school in the 1930's. He often told me stories about how he and other farm kids would take their .22 rifles with them to school, put them in the coat closet with their coats, and retrieve them after school so they could hunt on the way home. What small game they brought home was part of the family's dinner. I would speculate that this behavior was common throughout the early history of our country. That should constitute an historical president against gun free school zones if not the school carve-out.

[@cassiespencer6134]

It was also commonplace in the early 60's according to my grandfather who has some great stories with regard to the: 'In case of nuclear attack" drills they had at the time vs fire drills. Btw, talking wasn't allowed ! "As if they were going to hear us" which made me LOL.

[@ronaldfallis7022]

That was the case with my father and uncles in western Oklahoma in the 1030's and 40's.

[@ronaldfallis7022]

That was the case with my father and uncles in western Oklahoma in the 1030's and 40's.

[@danazlin3409]

@@ronaldfallis7022 My dad was in south-eastern OK. 😉

[@kellyvcraig]

Even in the fifties and sixties. My school, in Eastern Washington, had a graduating class of twenty-six. It was not uncommon to seem a rifle in a rack in the back window of a pickup out in the parking lot. We had fewer snow flakes back then. Too, federal agent who were sent up into the mountains to put the billies in their place didn't always come back. Probably, the like the life style and stayed. Right?

[@RustyIronProjectsRIP]

The world has really gone to hell. I graduated in 1983 and had a gun in my truck all the time, weather a deer rifle or a shot gun. Glad I grew up when we had rights. Just so sad to see everything go to hell in a hand basket.

[@charlespaine987]

Sounds very much like another area schools NEED to have their authority clipped. For too long “educators “ have infringed severely on both parents and students rights. More law suits are needed to trim government over reach.

[@pyrotech7210]

Yes, law SUITS, not laws. Laws do nothing for the average citizen.

[@Thes564]

I agree and since the only kind of people public schools hire now is woke people and they get paid huge wages for brainwashing the children we should always vote no on all school levees. I have several school teachers in my family and they all live in $250k to 300k homes with high cealings.

[@antfbi]

You said it brother. As we know more guns equals more safety. Look at are great nation. We have more than one gun per person and we only have a mass shooting every day. Unlike unsafe communist countries like japan where they have way fewer guns and the the strictest gun laws and have 9 people die per year. I would say are 40 thousand gun deaths a year makes the USA a way safer and freer country

[@jujupants2486]

And when one of these gun free school zones gets aired out, the cycle will repeat: -So sad, much tragedy -Can't even fathom someone could do this -Need to ban AR15, a military grade assault weapon ( lol, OK buttercup ) -Thoughts and prayers out to the families ( but no actual action ) -Need MORE gun free school zones -Whole thing is forgotten about in a week ( until the next fumigation happens ) Can't even begin to care anymore. They get what they get.

[@antfbi]

@@jujupants2486 that’s why all teachers and kids should have guns

[@cjames9320]

Never admit to a police officer you possess a weapon. Use your right to remain silent. They can NOT force you to speak without violating your rights. If you're stopped in a school zone this is especially true. If you are carrying where or when prohibited and they ask you, even in a state where the law states you must inform the officer, if you say "yes" you have just incriminated yourself,and you have the right against self-incrimination. Stay silent. Have your license and insurance ready before the officer gets to your window. Treat it like a normal traffic stop, and it will be a normal traffic stop.

[@charlesnash2748]

Your theory may work in some states except that in certain states when an LEO who has stopped you runs your driver's license, he knows that you have been issued a concealed carry permit. Some states require that upon contact with an LEO you must tell the officer whether or not you are carrying if you have a concealed permit and failure to do so can get you into trouble. I think you are always better off to tell the LEO you have a concealed carry permit by giving him your concealed carry license with your driver's license. Let him or her ask you if you are carrying and where the firearm is. There are a lot of poorly trained LEO's who are deathly afraid of guns. The last thing you want is to have him see it on the seat or ask you to step out and see it on your belt and react instinctively. "Officer, I am carrying tonight; please tell me what you want me to do?" is the best approach. Just do what the officer tells you and you'll be fine.

[@cjames9320]

@charlesnash2748 well you forget that we have the right to remain silent, as well as the right to refrain from self-incrimination. Perhaps a person has a beer. In some states, at officer discretion, even if your BAC is below the legal limit, it is a crime to carry a weapon. If an officer decides he believes you are impaired on something else, he can deem it as a crime. If you happen to drive through a school zone in some states, carrying is a crime, even in your car. Some states they deem it a crime to have ammunition even in your weapon, ir prohibited concealed carry altogether. All of these are of course, unconstitutional, but that's beside the point. My point is that admitting to carrying a weapon may very well be admission of a crime, even if you are unaware you're committing one, or that the officer had personally decided youve committed one. You have the right not to answer, you have the right to withhold any information you wish, and ANY attorney worth his salt would be able to sort that out very quickly. My personal rule is, if I'm asked to step out of the car and I suspect a patdown, I'll probably let them know, but until then it really isn't their business or concern.

[@charlesnash2748]

Your theory is sound but remember in many jurisdictions barbers and hairdressers are required to have more training than LEOs. Look at some of the goofy things that are chronicled about foolish cop stuff here on KZbin. I just watched a video where a cop dragged a young high school girl out of her car and cuffed her for going 37 in a 30. In Alaska, where I lived for 28 years, when you are stopped, the LEO will know by running your plate before he ever gets to you driver's window if you have a concealed carry permit. It is a state law to tell the officer whether or not you have a firearm with you. I feel way more comfortable controlling the encounter than having a poorly trained LEO who's scared of his shadow reacting when discovers my EDC and goes bonkers.

[@pumaspaw]

I started teaching high school in the early 90's. Students would bring me out to the parking lot to show me their guns that they had on their pickup truck gun racks. And of course the guns weren't allowed in the school itself. No one thought anything of it.

[@ronskancke1489]

I sure wouldn't have any firearm on display in my vehicle.

[@johnsellers9623]

@@ronskancke1489 you are too young. We all had a gun rack covering the back window of our pickup trucks. Usually a shotgun and sometimes a rifle too. It was very common in the 80s and early nineties.

[@kellyvcraig]

@@ronskancke1489, where we lived (time and place), it wasn't a problem.

[@louisshambarger2230]

@@johnsellers9623Me too although I graduated from high school in 1965. I kept an umbrella in mine. It was great for that.

[@dennisdavid9588]

My grandpa tells me about it being just like that in the 50’s. Guys would sometimes stop to hunt during deer season on the way home. We’ve always had the guns, it’s only in the last 25 years or so that people started mass shooting every other day

[@cprendon3]

Yes please, a deeper dive into Bruen and it's effect on school ZONE restrictions.

[@tobyhatch2547]

20USC7961 and then look at your state's firearm free zone statutes.

[@hcderksen]

Absolutely insane how this has come to be.

[@lylejohnson439]

When I was in the 8th grade in what was called junior high school a gun club was sponsored during lunch hour. Students brought guns to school to share them with other students..

[@fredflintstone8048]

Same here. The first high school built in our city had a shooting range in the basement. Guns at school were normal and I don't ever recall anyone ever getting hurt. We were taught gun safety.

[@YellowPaint100]

Were you in the 8th grade in the 60's or 70's? Either one makes sense! But in the 80's & beyond, ewwww wee, oh no!

[@JesusLives889]

See my comment above. Do you agree?

[@fredflintstone8048]

@@JesusLives889 Yes 👍👍

[@JesusLives889]

@@fredflintstone8048 We must stand together for the Constitution. The time is certainly now. Love your handle . Hey ya Fred ! Keep Smiling 😇

[@stephenferris5133]

Tom, Great thought-provoking content. Thanks - and yes, pleas a more extended discussion of Bruen and its likely consequences. In spite of the court trying to prohibit slapping a "Sensitive Place" label on everything, NY seems to be trying exactly that, with other gun-hating states (like NJ / CA / ...) not far behind. Must we expect twenty further years - or more? -of litigation before some clarity appears?

[@AttyTomGrieve]

SCAMMER ALERT: I am not contacting people about a prize or gun giveaway. That is a scam. Not me.

[@ericsfishingadventures4433]

Deeper dives into the second cases are very much needed more now than ever! Law abiding citizens need to know the law.

[@jimstaszko1675]

Thank you for commenting on your video. You've been picked to win a prize. .... LOL

[@L.V.exoticpets]

Yes please make a longer video on this

[@MR-nl8xr]

@@ericsfishingadventures4433 "Law abiding citizens need to know the law." Even the illegal unconstitutional ones?

[@LassieFarm]

How do I win

[@FLHamExtra]

Yes Tom I’d love to see a video on how the Bruen decision affects this

[@Adi-S]

If this is the case, then ALL school zone should be clearly marked as "you are entering a gun free school zone" as well as "your are leaving a .....". on all roads.

[@goosecouple]

2A community: "The 2A is a God-given right. But we must get the Governor's approval."

[@Dilly_Dilly_Dale]

I'm 2A community, I live in NY I don't ask anyone for permission, I carry anyway. Suprised I havnt been stopped yet

[@ChristianConstitutionalist3192]

I Carry EVERYWHERE Without A Permit And I Don't Ask Permission. By "EVERYWHERE" I Mean EVERYWHERE; Including Places The Federal Government Deems To Be "Sensitive Places" And States That Require A Permit To Carry.

[@Dilly_Dilly_Dale]

@@ChristianConstitutionalist3192 most people don't know states have zero authority over firearm legislation, I can't believe people let Governors tyrant them around, only congress can make gun legislation

[@Dilly_Dilly_Dale]

@@ChristianConstitutionalist3192 regardless, " shall not be infringed " means 1 thing, they can not try to play word games with that statement, founding fathers were smart with that statement, idc if you have a past of crime, if you gotba gun, I'm gonna have a gun, let's go don't blink motherfucker your dying in the dark, I'm claim self defense & that it's my non infringable right to defend myself & my property, without permission, pretty easy to win that case especially if you can get it to the Supreme court, I'd rather sit in jail a couple weeks then be shot dead & have to wait for "Government" to come save me, fuck that I'm exercising my right that can not be negotiated, CRIMINALS GET GUNS WITHOUT REGISTERING, PERMIT, LICENSE, WHY SHOULD WE, we made a mistake allowing them to produce licensing & background check legislation, I don't mind am evaluation from a local sheriff, but everything else is a money grab/ control

[@lancewoolen9343]

I'm pretty sure Jesus would disagree with you there.

[@TheWalterKurtz]

I make every effort to stay as far away from schools as possible. Schools seem to attract a lot of problems.

[@duranbailiff5337]

Reminds of the fact that for years, we roll slowly through school zones, only to find that you never actually see a child. Kids haven't walked to school for years (not in my experience) and the buses load and unload out of the sight of the public. I always feel weird creeping slower than grass growth, wondering when I will finally see a kid.

[@davep4610]

Wow. I'd never heard of the 1,000 foot school zones. I am licensed to carry in my state but would need to think carefully before taking a gun to any other state since, of course, if I took a gun with me on a road trip the purpose would be to have it loaded and handy -- not locked in the back unloaded.

[@firefly44220]

Yeah that’s 1/5 of a mile. Think about that. What if somebody lives within that perimeter?

[@toordog1753]

Why dont you believe in the second?

[@toordog1753]

@Firefly that only applies to people who don't believe in the second....

[@rishz7857]

At what point did commerce end? Possession of an item purchased....days, weeks, years ago, isn't commerce. Commerce is the act of profiting, not owning an item. Feds can't have it both ways when commerce is defined by other federal laws, rules and regulations as an act of profiting.

[@shawnwatson1419]

Locked in the back and unloaded is completely useless.

[@daffidavit]

Yes Tom, please run your projection on Bruen and this issue. BTW, is there a link to how each state handles their own "school zone" restrictions. Thanks in advance.

[@plantbro1964]

Great suggestion concerning the list. I also wonder if the regulations change not only by state but possibly by city?

[@daffidavit]

@@plantbro1964 I would think the State's statute would pre-empt any city rights to change the law, unless specifically allowed by state statute. IMHO.

[@williamlipscombii1565]

You have to tell the Robber or Mugger to "wait and hold on" while you unlock your carry case and load the gun before he can Rob or mug you. Hopefully he will comply.

[@inyourdefense0]

In most States, the CCW is an exception to State LEO enforcement of the Federal school zones. Unless the Feds patrol (and they actually have no clue on where these zones are), it's not something that I worry about.

[@dougadams9419]

Driving through a school zone is fine, walking through one is different.

[@SgtWill]

@@dougadams9419 Unless youhave a CCW in some states. For example, I have my CCW and I can carry on school grounds in Utah.

[@AtrociousAK47]

NJ passed a law in response to bruen that made essentially the entire state into one big "sensitive location" aka "gun-free zone", with the only places you could legally carry being, your own property, the street outside, and state forests during hunting season, everywhere else including private property (unless you have special permission from the owner or they post a "guns welcome" sign) and any business that has a "no guns allowed" policy would be a no go, and stepping foot there would make you a felon. it got so bad that they actually had to make an exemption for "what if im out walking my dog and my dog takes a shit on my neighbor's lawn, am I a felon for stepping onto his lawn to clean it up?" of course, most of those restrictions have been rendered null and void due to a TRO from a federal judge, but it remains up in the air as to whether the law will be repealed or reinstated. This came directly after SCOTUS explicitly told the state of New York that they could not do this. i might add that getting a ccw permit in the first place involves a whole slew of legal requirements plus $100 a year renewal fee (it's $200 for two years), and ive heard of many cases where the judge signing off on said permit added in additional restrictions as a court order, which are independant of any state laws, leading to situations where your buddy can legally enter a location while carrying, while you cannot..

[@JRock3091]

Hell when I was in high school during the early 2000's and deer or bird season was on we would have shotguns and rifles in our vehicles in the high school parking lot.

[@jamesjohnston8280]

Would love a further video on gun free “zones” as seen through the terms of the bruin decision. Thanks for your continued excellent explanations on these 2A matters

[@afnDavid]

Interesting. Interesting in that for the previous 54 years I have been living within about 40 feet of a public school. There are also many a private business and home within that 1000 feet perimeter. A 4 lane federal highway that transits the town within that 1000 ft. As well as a 2 lane state highway.

[@thesecatsarecrazy567]

Right, that makes the 1000 ft law unconstitutional on so many levels. First, if you own a home next to a school, you wouldn't be able to own a firearm. Second, if you own a business, you wouldn't be able to protect yourself or your business. Third, people wouldn't be able to drive or walk by on a public street, again unable to defend themselves. And I can go on and on. This doesn't make sense. It is just another law that got put on the books that law-abiding citizens have to spend our money on to get the Supreme Court to rule it unconstitutional. We need a law that states any new laws need to pass the Constitutional sniff test before it can be inacted.

[@amorphousblob2721]

@@thesecatsarecrazy567 When that law was enacted, we had a liberal SCOTUS that would have ruled in favor of it. Then it would be enshrined in case law that the 2A only applies to cops and soldiers.

[@ScottCleve33]

The commerce clause has been a curse on this country. It's given the federal government unprecedented power to regulate at the state level.

[@robertwhitaker3858]

There was a shooting sports division at my high school, sporting clays, and an indoor range target. And nearly every pickup in the parking lot had a easyrider rifle rack in the back window. And there were no school shootings. After WWII and Vietnam there were guns everywhere in this country, there were no shootings at grocery stores, malls or places of worship. We literally didn’t lock our doors to our homes and there were no home invasions.

[@codykoon5520]

What I personally like to see from you is about 90% things that have actually happened (i.e. settled law, analysis of rulings, interviews with individuals) and 10% speculation as to what the law could lead to in the future. Just my two cents. Love the channel!

[@damaddog8065]

This is why you need to pay attention to the hacks you elect, and the judges and lawyers.

[@jks3849]

The colleges and universities need to be held accountable

[@christopherstephens2699]

Technically inside of a motor vehicle is private property. That would be a huge loophole in an area where technicalities are critical. I would be interested to hear your take on this, and of course on how this current bill relates to the historical traditions of the country as well.

[@larryclemens1850]

I think this is what a lawyer would call an "interesting" question. Lawyers LOVE interesting questions. They require a lot of research, work and court time = VERY expensive.

[@sethtenrec]

Yeah Christopher, armchair “lawyers” on KZbin comments are always telling the pure facts! 😂😂😂

[@dougearnest7590]

@@sethtenrec - A lot of those "armchair lawyers" on KZbin obviously have a better understanding of Constitutional Law than many Supreme Court justices - Not that it does anybody any good, but still. As for me, I despise fake Republican legislators who claim they gave me "Constitutional carry". I've had it since 1791.

[@yobringitondown5565]

An RV is considered a home. 👍🏼

[@64ig6kg0]

That's a good point because many people live inside of 1000 feet of a school. Are they not allowed to store firearms in their houses?

[@John-ef8pz]

What we can do is not comply with the criminals in the government.

[@BasedAFPatriot]

4:00 ‐ Nobody was thinking that, except for the well informed lawyers out there, obviously.

[@gabrielash75]

Justice Thomas correctly pointed out there were restrictions on students carrying firearms to school but not anyone else.

[@user-1A-2A]

Unloaded and locked; now its completely useless as a personal protection instrument. Dont ask, dont tell. I would rather be safe and protected in a time of need than be a good little sheeple.

[@eddcurry1245]

Living in Texas, -besides being a honorably retired peace officer, I do also have a concealed carry license ina constitutional open carry state. KNOW your laws!!!

[@Dr_Wrong]

*_I want to know how a reasonable, common, man can find what laws apply to him._* 1. Federal; 2. State; 3. County; 4. City; 5. Any State, County, or City he may visit or travel through; 6. Any Regulations or Administrative Rules criminally enforceable; 7. In under 2,912 hours _(8hrs/wk from age 18 - 25)_ a. Annually updated requiring less than 415 hrs; 8. For Zero dollars expenditure; 9. With Zero hours formal training in Law School; 10. With Zero Latin words; 11. Never exceeding fours words, of five or more syllables, per sentence; 12. Solely in modern American English; How the fkk do we find out what laws apply to us BEFORE being arrested? Make a video on THAT if you can..

[@rickl.1603]

I always appreciate the longer version and thanks again for the old sayings you keep showing us!

[@SigmaSheepdog]

Great information that most people aren't aware of. This dumb and useless law is broken by thousands of people every day, but fortunately, it's a law that is nearly impossible to enforce. The only caveats are, don't get arrested in a school zone, and don't do anything that will get you or your vehicle searched.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Unless you live by me where the local small town cops will pull you over for doing 21MPH in a 20MPH school zone. It's easy to tell those who don't live in the area when they ride your bumper thru town. Next time you drive thru Westville, IN on US Hwy 421, don't say you haven't been warned:-)

[@juanvaldes1837]

​@@kennethcurtis1856 thanks. Revenue collection

[@beatlesrgear]

@@kennethcurtis1856 Thank you. I will make a note of that and avoid Westville, IN.

[@navigator1372]

Yes and don't agree to a search. No good ones from it. This law illustrates the point. The police are quick to enforce such a trap. They aren't your friends

[@abbiebeast]

Any legal "technicality" can cause you issues even IF you have a permit... I live in NH (FEMA Region 1) we have open carry and concealed carry NEITHER require a permit, In our state gun free zones are a back seat to the Constitution of our state WHICH BTW is older thatn the US Constitution - James Madison used ours to draft the USC but failed to make it practical in language

[@YowzaBowzaWowza]

In other words … these laws are total BS.

[@daleweller5193]

We need to get rid of the so called no gun zones! Yes on Bryan decision.

[@rhett4060]

All this gun scare had to come from the book of ADOLPH.....co authored by Stalin & Nikita

[@rhett4060]

Oh l failed to mention Herr Himmler....

[@SCarter76]

Tom - I'd love to see (& learn) how the "Bruen" decision applies to the Federal, State and Local school Gun-Free "Zones"! My house is well within 1000 feet of a public school and the street I live on terminates into the side entrance of the school parking lot (capacity = only 10 cars). I drive past the school, and a city-owned Fire House, on an (almost) daily basis. State of residence = VA (specifically the 'Peoples Republic of Northern Virginia').

[@charliebeard8633]

I am a retired trucker. We used to call VA. the communist state due to the harassment truckers received from the state Dept. of Transportation and some law enforcement agencies.

[@texasranger24]

This law is massive bullshit. Anything that isn't a fenced area that says school on it or a school building shouldn't be considered a school. If you live 900 feet from a school you can't just demand the school janitor mow your lawn and take out your trash, so it can't legally be the school. We need enforcement of 18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights and 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law. A whole lot of politicians need to see a jail from the inside to remind future lawmakers of their legal duties.

[@averageusercommenter199]

Yes, PLEASE elaborate on the US V. Alfonso case.

[@quartytypo]

It's stupid to carry a gun. Use a gun for self-defense in your home. Outside carry you run the risk of a scared cop shooting you or end up in jail with big attorney bill. Even though your carry is legal.

[@100emery]

Definitely want a video on Bruen vs Gun Free Zone. On some of those maps, GFZs makes most of the areas impassible.

[@seanscott7246]

It's Citizens! "law abiding" is a fake term. Think about it that's saying that all these little micro laws are just, all these little 2 tier legal amendments systems is justified by saying "law-abiding" because that means you follow the laws perfectly and without fault. well when laws are written corrupt their past corruption and their perpetrated by corrupt attorneys and judges and Advocates, then who is the Law Abiding Citizen.? Not you. Constitution says nothing about being submissive to corrupt laws written by criminals in order to make good people criminals.

[@BobSmith-lb9nc]

It might be a good idea to analyze what the CCW permit means in these circumstances. How much protection does it provide?

[@j.l.8000]

In my State, at least a carry permit covers exactly this scenario.

[@DATo_DATonian]

So if I follow you correctly, if you are required to use your CCW weapon to protect your life in a "school zone" you will have first, automatically broken the law, and secondly your USCCA insurance would, as a result, be null and void. Is that correct?

[@dtenetwork1628]

Thank you for everything you do, love your content!

[@Milesco]

This "if the gun had moved in interstate or foreign commerce" loophole doesn't sound kosher. If a person is merely possessing a gun within 1000 feet of a school, he is not engaging in commerce of any kind, let alone interstate commerce. If *_that_* is the standard for granting federal jurisdiction, there is literally nothing the federal government can't regulate. Tom, has this loophole been tested by the SCOTUS or any appellate court?

[@Jmn973]

If you are licensed to carry BY THE STATE YOU ARE IN. So, if you're carrying in, say, Iowa with a WI license that IA recognizes, the "trap" still applies.

[@mrheart4242]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. I apologize. I have red it and have done my absolut best researching every word and letter. Where it says my right to keep and bear arm. Shall be infringed by an arbitrary location. The law you specify. To the best of my limited ability. Has never been tried under a constitutional validity.

[@thomashastings5694]

Tom please do tell us more on the Bruen ruling and school zones

[@Old_Toby]

So basically you could just be driving to the grocery store and pass through a school zone, just happen ro get pulled over, let the cop know that you are armed because most ask this anyway, then bam you're a felon. That almost sounds like entrapment. But what else would you expect from the feds.

[@danfromthesouth5352]

I think since I’m licensed with my CCW, and because I live in Alabama, I should be all good. “Constitutional Carry” or not, I’m always gonna renew my CCW every 5 years just because of states that don’t like my rights.

[@JonBeowulf]

Maybe I'm missing a detail, but it sounds like you're free and clear if you have a CCW license. Not hard to get in Texas but likely more difficult in other areas.

[@commonman4413]

So, we just need to get a concealed carry license even if the State has constitutional carry. Also if you live within 1k feet of a school you are probably ok in your home(right?) but beware if you leave your house.

[@kubikariYOU]

Thank you for continually watching out for us law abiding citizens. Great video.

[@kellyvcraig]

NOTE: A "loophole" is just a right government agents have not taken from you.

[@kwamesha3477]

Thanks for your due diligence on these 2A matters. I have couple of questions related to this topic: 1. If I can prove I live in a constitutional carry state, can I travel to another constitutional carry state and purchase a firearm and/or ammunition? 2. If I have an enhanced concealed carry permit from my home state, can I travel to another constitutional carry or reciprocity state and purchase a firearm and/or ammunition?

[@champy1210]

IANAL; consult an atty. However, unless state law dictates otherwise, you may buy long guns in any state that permits it. Handguns are different: Federally, you may only purchase handguns in your state(s) of residence. If you are a dual/multi-state resident, during the time which you actually physically reside in that state (in which you maintain a home), you are considered a resident of that state and shall use that address for the 4473. They require proof of residence (state-issued ID with the residence's address, hunting/fishing permit with the address, or something(s) like a deed, lease (?), utilities, etc., or a certain combination thereof. Again, ask a competent atty. for exactly what proof(s) of residence they'd require if you can't present a state-issued ID. From Waco bois themselves: "May a person who resides in one state and owns property in another state purchase a firearm in either state? If a person maintains a home in two states and resides in both states for certain periods of the year, they may, during the period of time they actually reside in a particular state, purchase a firearm in that state. However, simply owning property in another state does not alone qualify the person to purchase a firearm in that state. [27 CFR 478.11]." Source: www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-person-who-resides-one-state-and-owns-property-another-state-purchase-firearm-either

[@fedup8542]

I'm not seeking permission or approval for any of my constitutional rights or responsibilities... you shouldn't either

[@robkearbey6522]

Yes, I would like to hear more about the Bruin results and how it affects the idea of school zones and/or schools.

[@johnschunk3412]

If your gun is totally unusable in a self defence situation, you're good to go.

[@N.Earl2850]

Mioore, ok high school class of 1981. : i had a .410 in the trunk of my car & can still name others who had guns @ school

[@murrismiller2312]

this guy is sooooo level headed.... and well spoken

[@AMomentInTimeProductions]

Actually in the State of Florida not sure what state this guy is talking about, but in Florida it is not against the law to drive by or though a school zone with a gun on you so long as you was not intending to enter the school grounds with the gun.. Just simply driving by the school even in the zone will not cause you a criminal charge at all.. I even Called My Local Sheriff Department and asks this, and the officer said, NO you can drive by a school even with in the zone of that school with a firearm so long as you was not intended to enter the school grounds with it, he said the officer would have to prove that you was intending to go on school grounds with the firearm, Also he mention many people have their house right next door to the school with in the ZONE , does that mean it's against the law to have a gun in your house, NO he said, he said some people are just uninformed about how the law is written.. he did say as well if you have a CCW permit to carry, and you are driving on the school grounds to pick up your wife who is a teacher or your child who goes to that school that is perfectly legal.. but you must have a CCW permit to enter the school grounds, you still can't enter the school building tho, and that goes for Universities.. But this guy Tom Grieve, saying you can be arrested because you drove by a school with a gun, that is NOT TRUE, not in the State of Florida at least, if he is talking about another state maybe a liberal state than they need to change that law because it is stupid.. BUT don't take my word for it call your local Florida Sheriff's Department and ask them they will tell you if you get pulled over in a school zone because you was driving by it, and had a gun on you, you will NOT be charged with a crime..

[@user-mi4tc9ve7q]

Thanks Tom, great content as always! I'd love to see a deeper dive into the legalities and possibilities surrounding carrying (warranted and constitutional) near schools / school zones.

[@michaelfeeley5802]

Love your videos thank you for the service you do for our community

[@sammyfl7]

Tom... would you please make a video to explain the new Florida permitless conceal carry?

[@ericsfishingadventures4433]

I'm glad you covered this topic. Even though KZbin doesn't like it sending out notifications even if you're subscribed and hit all notifications. I'm glad I caught this video! Thanks for everything you do to educate everyone pro 2nd amendment community! 🇺🇸

[@JerzeyJoe]

Is the gun-free school zone 1,000 feet from the property line or from the school's front door? Not that it matters, but it crossed my mind.

[@hatersgotohell627]

So what if you are concealed carrying while walking in these permitless states? Do leo still say ya but techyically ur within 1000 ft of a zone so instant felony charge

[@JPS138]

Great videos! When do you expect the 2nd Circuit to rule on the 5-2A cases?

[@god-tx4xz]

We NEED defenseless zones. How else will the religious slaugter with impunity?

[@fporretto]

I'd very much like to see your analysis of the _Bruen_ decision as it pertains to "school zones." Count me in.

[@Darksaige]

Even though my state has permitless carry that takes full effect in July, i still tell everyone who can get s license pay the fee and get it. I feel a loophole opening behind it

[@abcaabca6364]

What's the effect of permitless carry states? Does the SFZ recognize carry then as ok?

[@christopherdekonstrukt444]

Nonviolent felons should not be permanently barred from firearms ownership.

[@traumajock]

In the city I retired from there was a high school surrounded by a bad neighborhood. A man on foot tried to do business with a local recreational pharmaceutical salesman about three houses down from the front of the school. It turned into a forcible reallocation of the gentleman's funds. He fled on foot into the school, the armed businessman followed. Police in the school intervened. We responded to an out of breath individual. Police asked him why he ran to the school. He stated that the businessman was going to kill him. He ran into the school not believing it would save his life, he ran in there hoping his assailant would follow. To jam up the young entrepreneur with federal as well as state charges. The danger of these zones being that others may flee into the schools seeking refuge, thereby exposing kids in the school to violence.

[@jamesorth1521]

But the doors are supposed to be locked. . . .what a sad joke.

[@joejoyce5966]

What happens if you live within a school zone before the unconstitutional law was passed.

[@ictpilot]

So long story short, just get a concealed carry permit and don't worry about it.

[@rb343]

I also believe if your carrying even with a permit as a regular citizen you can't carry on federal property such as your local post office. We had a local get in trouble for carrying into a post office.

[@Itsallsotiresome]

How did he or she get busted? Was the local openly carrying or concealed and printing?

[@rb343]

@@Itsallsotiresome the po employees saw the gun under his open jacket.

[@Itsallsotiresome]

@@rb343 Oh I see. Well, that wasn't particularly bright of him to do that. Thanks for the clarity on the matter.

[@tthomp57]

The best "Gun Free School Zone" story I have is as follows: About 10 years ago I was assisting my wife, going around various schools to provide teacher training in technology. At one school in VERY rural Nebraska, there had been a mass shooter threat made. The Principal gathered all the senior class boys and ordered them to retrieve their guns from their trucks (all farm kids) and guard all the doors. LE response time there was about 30 minutes and you might only get one Deputy. The point was well made and the threat was never repeated. The school never closed or went on "lock down". That is what it should look like!

[@a1sloth1]

A student milita! Excellent Principal.

[@danazlin3409]

Reminds me of an incident shortly after Collumbine. A teen though to be a copy cat and loaded himself up with several guns, all that he could carry. As he approached the school's front door, a teacher observed the potential shooter's progress. Th teacher retrieved his hunting rifle from his trunk and approached the kid. When challenged, the kid immediately surrendered. Oddly enough, the incident was never widely publicized.