New Cave Tiles For D&D Tutorial Part 3 (Black Magic Craft Episode 044)

[@johnbrogan7455]

here is a tip from a model railroader who also plays D&D when mixing paints we (model railroaders) use a set of 'eyedroppers, in 3 packs from testers that are used to count out a number of drops of each mix so you can reproduce each mix and if you use a 3 by 5 inch note card you can write the mix on the card and have say a 3/4 inch square with the color on the card as well, yo can then put the dry card into a card file to keep for future use. This also works if any extra that you have made spills for some reason, love the videos

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

This is a great idea. I already do something similar for painting, essentially I keep my palleteand write on it the stages from where the paint I was using had dried as a reference. This would work well for washes. Great tip

[@horrido666]

You can buy disposable eye droppers on Amazon $4 for 100.

[@stupidtwo]

Black Magic Craft I’ve been thinking about your mention of a modular water tile system during the bridge fast build ... Could you not build it just like the cavern tiles, leaving 1/4”-1/2” border for shoreline that would connect to regular tiles where appropriate? Or would you rather make water tiles using the same method you used for the wet pit trap tiles? Make them as thin as possible and place them atop your grassland battle mat?

[@BigJoeMurray]

I know I'm late to the party on this, but on the next project you could using a crumpled plastic bag instead of a sponge would give you a more veiny texture. The technique is the same. Great work as always.

[@lindybeige]

i was going to suggest painting the back of the tiles black for the reason you mention at the end here. I think I would have painted the vertical edges of all the tiles black (except those used for making spaces narrower - those designed to be stacked on others would have black smooth sides and stone rocky sides). Where are the railways? I thought at the start that these tiles were for underground mining tracks. You'd add those on top somehow? They are not authentically medieval, but are a fantasy staple.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

If I remember correctly o spent quite some time trying to come up with add on track pieces but never came up with a system I thought looked good and was still easy to replicate quickly. I never ended up coming back to them.

[@lindybeige]

@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial For wargaming, I painted the heads of round mapping pins to look like rocks, and used these to pin Hornby-style rails to cork embankments. Perhaps if they made Blu tack in beige, you could use blobs of this to attach bent wire to your tiles. I suppose it depends on how flexible you will need to be with the rails. I doubt that you will in a lifetime run more than a few adventures needing mining rails. My Proxon hot wire cutter arrived yesterday. No idea when I'll find the time to use it.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

If you ever decide to use it in a video and give me a mention you’d really make my day 😉

[@Palocles]

I got all the way to beige blu tack before looking at the name of this commenter and damn if it ain’t Lindybeige! I can looking for the dungeon traps competition after watching your video about the hit wire cutter. But I was going to partially agree and say I’d paint the bottoms and smooth sides black (or leave them base coated black) for the negative space effect. Just wish I had a hot wire cutting table. Keep up the good work, both of you.

[@____________838]

I didn’t expect to see Lindybeige here…

[@yourwrong6125]

This was really neat seeing you go through this in a longer process then a single video. Maby a castle one next? or the ultimate tavern set!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I think people put too much effort into tavern builds, I mean how much do you need to do in a tavern that isn't covered with a basic layout and theatre of the mind? I don't wanna spend a whole session in a damn tavern, lol.

[@veterannarrator6153]

I sat down yesterday to paint some miniatures and stumbled upon your channel. I wanted to send a sincere Thanks! I have been in a terrain and building slump for awhile and you have motivated me to make some new stuff for my gametable and D&D group. Just bought a Proxxon as well. Keep up the outstanding work nerd brother!

[@dganim9196]

Jeremy I enjoy watching your videos thank you. You mentioned painting the reverse side of the smaller ones black. That's a great idea. It is a bit more work but why not paint them all that way. That way you could throw down a flat textured battle map and use the reverse black side of your tiles on top of the mat to create a slightly walled perimeter of a very large cave room. A lair for example, You could then incorporate your preexisting shaped tiles you mentioned in the part 1 of these episodes for elevations within that walled off room. This makes your modular tiles useful 2 fold by using both sides for positive and negative space. Another possible idea is to use colored or textured paper to represent acid, water, lava etc.. placed under your colored textured tiles to represent the respective pools of material. just some suggestions- thanks again for sharing your great work.

[@kapittsalt]

The coloring on these things is just so damn good. It's like you chiseled them out of a bank lobby. I love it! The black back trip is freaking clever.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Thanks, I thought the paint was pretty realistic

[@ultimateogre]

loving that paint method. let the wash do the heavy lifting. completely changed the look over anything else I've seen.

[@martinthewarrior5016]

you group must love you man! looks very cool, when i start D&D with my own group, i will definitely be making some of these!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I hope so :)

[@martinthewarrior5016]

when are we getting more DM diary?

[@incognitoatunknown2702]

Did you ever go the next step and integrate the rails for the mine carts etc? Did I just miss that episode somewhere?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Never did it

[@ColossalAmbitions]

Awww man

[@jtsterk1537]

Thank you for encouraging us to dive into this project since it should take us 6 hours. This does look daunting but your reassurances are giving me more motivation to get started. I have to admit that it will end up taking me 12 hours but I have far less experience in crafting. Thanks for sharing all your tips and bringing up so many good pointers for how the craft will actually work on the game table.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Yea, and even if it takes 12 hours of work, its really not that bad for a nice 100 tile set.

[@ravencraft3074]

OK so Im very new to the channel here. I would love to see some tiles for a winter/snow environment also I would like to see a version for prairie, forest and desert. More than just scatter. I would like to see your take on tiles for those environments be it large base tiles or configured 3x3 tiles with trails roads or the like on it.

[@Evil_Misfit_]

Also I love this! I like Wylocks tiles too but his have so many steps. Yours are easy and straight to the point

[@Savathious]

Beautiful tile set. Very well done. I can't stop watching your videos.

[@thomasholcomb7681]

Not sure how you're going to go about the no grid but I just recently started a no grid and what I did was make a measuring stick that was notched ever inch to get up to "60ft" of measuring. Most spells and movements are 60 and less and this allows for accurate diagonal movements. I use it almost like the dnd attack wing style of measuring. Anyways love the vids, I tackled the boat as my first ever creation and your tutorials were absolutely wonderful for a beginner like me.

[@brigittedarcel1498]

DMScotty seldom uses grid terrain. He uses a measuring stick so your right on there. I play in a group where the DM uses a mini tape measure which is more flexible than than a stick. No matter how you do it, gridless terrain is not uncommon, especially outdoors.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

There are many ways to play gridless....I've done them all, and will discuss them next vid. Also this set technically does have a grid which I will touch on as well.

[@onetruetroy]

@11:08 the shaking spray can translates as [Applause]

[@AnonOmis1000]

You mentioned you were going to have mine cart tracks in the first part. Was that put to the way side or am I just missing the video where you do that?

[@ColossalAmbitions]

Yeah that was what I was wondering

[@NotAnIlluminatiSpy]

Think I'm too high, I'm eyeing up that yellow sponge thinking it looks like delicious cake...

[@ladymanga6575]

I'm assuming that you didn't make the mining cart tracks because this was already a huge undertaking as is?

[@urbanesmala]

You can put the narrow walls in the center instead of the edge in order to split the party.

[@servant8196]

Great video, great project... Just awesome. You really inspired me to begin crafting in your first videos and you continue to put out awesome stuff in terms of projects, ideas and techniques... Keep it up, you've definitely got a fan here in italy. One question : do you remember how you acquired that mini with the hooded statue that you've put on top of a rock in the foreground during the intro?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I got that in that big batch of free minis someone gave me. I believe it is from a lord of the rings or hobbit terrain set.

[@servant8196]

Black Magic Craft thanks 👍

[@arthurmelander6224]

No one will read this 3 years from release, but I took the corner tiles and did a 45 degree angle for the edge that doesn't mate to the other straight sections and I think it looks better than the 90 angle cuts. I get the negative space may be why you did the cuts that way, but you are never going to butt those up against another tile anyway. Just gives a different look that seems to flow better.

[@PilgrimofMatter]

I thought I was happy and then I watched this and I was truly happy.

[@alexcorti5680]

As usual a lot of good advice and ideas ! The new set looks impressive !!! Hell yeah Jeremy !!!

[@MyrrdynWhitefall]

You going to revisit and finish this for the Patreon person who suggested caves with rail systems in them?

[@dgtlrn]

dunno if this has been mentioned in the comments yet, but, even as someone who lives by the combat grids, these tiles surely don't need them. they are all three by three, so 9 tiny to medium creatures per tile, one giant, etc etc. movement is 15 feet per tile. easy enough to calculate grid distance without needing the grid or even measurement sticks. great work btw! i will be making myself some of these as soon as i can, but I'm considering waiting until i have a proxxon maybe.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Yea, this is a big thing I was planning on pointing out in the next vid. There IS a grid, it's just a 15' grid instead of 5' one. ....definately want to use a hotwire for this build

[@AlphaDroogs]

Just finished a 120 tile build (spray is drying now) with just an Olfa knife and it wasn't so bad. About a whole evening for carving, and a couple hours for paints. Put something on Netflix and its pretty mindless.

[@brucelammers6649]

I hadn’t realized I could make my other Amazon purchases through your affiliate store; in the future my purchasing habits with Amazon will be done to help Black Magic Craft. Once again I enjoyed your technique and ideas, and I also was intrigued by the chest sitting on the bolder. If there isn’t an associated video describing its construction can I get a close up picture of it so I can attempt to make a similar copy? Thanks!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Thanks :) that chest is actually a 3d print from Hobgoblin 3d. I have a video review on their work.

[@schmerzdj5719]

Good tip to save and label the wash.... I should start doing that

[@beautysyx]

They look amazing! Diggin the new paint/finish. Totally gonna make a set like this for my caves :D Thank you!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Thanks, I am really diggin them :)

[@jakestewart2475]

been subscribed for awhile now, always enjoy your vids, glad to see more up, ill swing by your pantheon later this month, keep up the great work..

[@markcosta1143]

rockin that icrpg

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

you know it!

[@alexalvarez5695]

That was going to be my comment. ICRPG for the win!

[@shaunlandman]

Any tips on how you would add cavern walls to the tiles? Making them look textured and random too?

[@dudge801]

Finishing my set saturday. very excited

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Awesome :)

[@janusgemini5697]

okay, 4 seconds in and I have to hit the like button. silly intro.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Always

[@darrelld.paveyjr.1477]

Cigar's and Bubble Bath I am ALL IN!! Do you post your game on Discord and are there openings??

[@jamesdurchenwald]

Great video. In the part 1 of this series you mentioned a rail system and I was really looking forward to how you would do that. Do you plan to add anything like that in the future?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Yea, I just wanted to have a complete new base set to work with before getting into those features. The rail system will be modular and sit on top of the tiles, not be tiles themselves.

[@jamesdurchenwald]

Awesome! I look forward to it! Oh, and we got our Proxxon through your affiliate.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Awesome, you will love it, I promise

[@jamesdurchenwald]

Oh, we already do. We took your advice after watching many videos and ordered it before we even tried anything. As you say it is an investment, but the realization of how hard it would be to cut anything like a straight line with the proxxon pretty much sealed the deal from the outset. Keep up the good work!

[@ColossalAmbitions]

Has this rail system been made yet?

[@dkbibi]

Product placement: Icrpg lol 😁 Thx for the vid Pilli! Result is killer!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Not an accident :)

[@gypsysix7085]

Man I LOVE your work! You need to do a traveling workshop or something.. I'm curious, when you reveal your new pieces to your players, do they wig out at how awesome your creations are? Maybe you can show us some reaction vids of the folks you play with! lol Thanks again at another excellent project vid sir!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I think they've just grown used to it and expect it....but once in a while the game will momentarily stop when players get excited and need to take pics.

[@ryanhale6339]

As a preacher and fellow DM, I approve of your intro.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I was just doing what every good DM does, steal from other authors and reskin.

[@AnonOmis1000]

I probably wont get a reply since this is so old, but weren't the tiles supposed to have mine cart tracks on them?

[@NeoPunisher123]

great video, all three parts of the cave tile project. But did you forget the grid you need for playing D&D/Pathfinder? Or how you handle it without a 1" grid?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYjIfax4i6ilfbM

[@NeoPunisher123]

@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial sometimes answers can be so simple *facepalm* ;) thx a lot for the link :D

[@beardcraft7020]

Something that whould be great, if you dont already have it, whould be a few cloth you can lay on the table before putting down the dungeontiles, like a cloth painted like fire/lava. Whould make it more alive 👍

[@TheCraftingMuse]

Fuzzy slippers! 😂 best comment. Great video.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I have no idea what you are talking about.....did I say something about fuzzy slippers? I forget, lol.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

oh wait, now I remember!

[@TheCraftingMuse]

I'll keep it in mind when I need to order some fuzzy slippers.

[@amacadder]

OMG my tiles have been made redundant lol. Awesome work, I will have to give my current stuff a face lift. Have to get more paint too heheh.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

You can always mix and match

[@kevinhammond9445]

Awesome set. They came out great!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@michaelwood9620]

Damn, I saw this about 7 hours too late. I just placed a huge amazon order for almost 600 dollars. Ill definitely use your store link in the future!

[@michaelwood9620]

I ended up being able to cancel my order and used your store link. Hope it helps! Ill be using your link for all my amazon buys now. May as well fund you somehow, and I buy alot off there lol.

[@shadowspectr]

Hey Jeremy, commenting on this in January of 2020 and I was wondering if you still use these tiles as your go to for cavern style dungeons? Finally secured myself some 1/2 inch xps foam, (hard to find in Oregon), and I am considering doing this build. So several years later, do you still use them?

[@jtsterk1537]

Been waiting for this. Awesome!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

:D

[@Evil_Misfit_]

Do you have a cobblestone tile video for towns?

[@seamus6387]

Just picked up a hot wire table and I'm plotting doing this already. Now I just need to go by Home Despot and see if they carry the supplies I need. Also, I has to point out the ICRPG book, cool book full of may great ideas to inspire you, kinda like this channel. lol

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Cheers

[@MemoryOfGravy]

They turned out so good! :D

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Thanks :D

[@martinthewarrior5016]

i thought you were going to make a set of little modular tracks (for mine carts and stuff) to go with these? have you decided not to do that, or is it still in the works?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I will, it's just that I'm still developing the technique.....trying to do things in a way that I both think looks right but is also practical for the channel is really tough sometimes. I have ways I would build them that would be awesome, but they wouldn't be as approachable for most people so I try to make easier methods.

[@martinthewarrior5016]

cool :-) maybe something to consider would be separate easy and advanced tutorials? so in one you look at the basic method, then in another vid you show us the more complex ways of doing it? just an idea.

[@garfieldwithissuez]

Black Magic Craft good because I literally just spent an hour watching all three videos at midnight on a school night when I have to get up at 5am to get my daughter to school in the morning wanting to see the way you did it.

[@claylewis8233]

Great work! I have that same T-shirt!!! Double awesome!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I love that shirt!

[@geekybugle4241]

Found it! For some reason I thought you were going to make the train tracks too.

[@matthewhall1074]

Awesome video. love your stuff.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@charliesolo7521]

Looks so good!!!!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

thanks :)

[@johnrasnick6147]

Haha I like your intro!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

thanks :)

[@simoneandersson5978]

A little idea, that i would really love to see: putting your intro music and slide-in "Black Magic Craft" in the end of your videos :D

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

There is a very specific reason related to the constraints of youtube's new end cards that I don't do that.

[@simoneandersson5978]

Black Magic Craft ah, alright. thanks for replying :D

[@erho2967]

I see those reaper skelies in the back there!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

yup

[@PyramidXSlender]

What problems may I face if I use acrylic krylon spray finish instead of the one you use? The one you recommend is not sold in my country and shipping is too expensive.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

I’ve actually since switched to Krylon. Works great.

[@PyramidXSlender]

@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial that is such a relief! Do you use polyurethane or acrylic krylon?

[@jackhackenbruch5103]

Brilliant!!

[@mmwafflez]

If I don't have a hot wire, what would be the next best thing to use?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

A really good utility knife and many blades. My specific suggestion is Olfa brand.

[@chd64]

hello did you every make that video about wether to use a grid or not,

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Yup kzbin.info?search_query=black+magic+craft+grid

[@chd64]

awesome cheers, most likely leave it off, but wanted to hear some thoughts, thankyou and for the quailty of your videos

[@bengreen006]

When I washed my tiles my base coat bubbled up. What do you recommend I do?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Hard to say without seeing. Did you use mod podge before paint?

[@bengreen006]

I did use mod podge before painting. I let them dry overnight and they seem to look okay now. Might have just been a one time thing.

[@SanDiegoBass]

For the Minwax, does it matter which type gloss vs semi gloss vs satin?

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Satin is already pretty glossy for terrain, I wouldn’t do any higher gloss levels unless you want things to look very wet. As I say in most vids I use satin.

[@SanDiegoBass]

Alright, finished my set with a good minwax satin finish (I bought 3 bottles as I know I'm going to need them!). I'm not completely happy, but I am super new at this and will get better. I just want to say how much you inspire and motivate others into craftin'. I appreciate your work!

[@Wolves225]

I was thinking that the tiles would look cool if you indent corners of a grid then sprinkled your craft sand into them. That way they could remain flat but also have the crumbly rock look.

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Nah....cave floors dont tend to have a perfect pattern of rubble.....you don't need a grid. Grid is a lie.

[@Wolves225]

Black Magic Craft I see! These tiles are great and I can admit it can be fun to step away from the grids. Thank you for the great videos! Now to save for a hot wire table.

[@sebastiendesautels8567]

Great vid! Thank!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

:D

[@waynedaly100]

Looks epic

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@agarzino]

lovely, and inspiring. do you ship to south america? (chile o argentina)

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

ship what? I dont sell things....if you mean my amazon links, those are just affiliate links. I direct people to amazon, they buy as regular, I get a commission. I don't actually sell stuff myself.

[@tyeklund7221]

I personally prefer the more cartoon like grey rocks. In a world of ogres and magic, do we really need realistic rocks? Just my opinion thougg

[@rumo_der_wolpertinger7742]

Could you make a Tutorial on a fireplace?

[@ClaytonWeatherly-cw3jx]

🎨

[@chatters02]

nice teefury shirt :)

[@jimmybrownell934]

sweet!

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

:D

[@emanuelcamuglia5984]

i think the grid is not necesary, mostly because all tiles are 3x3

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

yea....like I said I'll be discussing this next vid. But even if you NEED some grid type reference, well, it's right there. This set is a 15' grid!

[@onetruetroy]

Many years ago I adopted the hex grid for cave, outdoor and other natural locales. That developed from actually lines to center dots, then finally to shading variations centered on the positions. You don't notice the grid until you look for it.

[@pukas9901]

The craft game will never be the same...

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

:D

[@Johnnyboi1971]

if you really need a grid why not put one on the black gaming board underneath the tiles you dont even have to paint on just get clear plastic sheets with a grid place on your board then put your tiles on top ,hth :)

[@Johnnyboi1971]

Or if you are really clever some sort of projector with a grid would work :)

[@BlackMagicCraftOfficial]

Or.....stop being a slave to the grid. The grid is a lie.

[@Johnnyboi1971]

well that's that problem solved,i don't even know what the grid was for i am guessing something to do with movement or combat,heck we never even had tiles four our adventures ,we used a black rubber mat and some chalk :)

[@knghtbrd]

OKAY EVERYONE! Go buy totally random shit from Amazon using Jeremy's affiliate link so he gets the list of what people bought with it and goes, "What the actual f-!" The weirder the better! ESPECIALLY if somehow you (somehow) use it in a D&D game!