NEW Champion 11,000 Watt Inverter Generator

[@diamondgirl999]

Did you disconnect the bonded neutral?

[@UncleFabReviews]

Yes, I did. The way to disconnect this generator (make floating neutral) is to take the front panel off and unscrew the labeled wire from the frame. I am exploring ways to have a switch on the generator to choose bonded / unbonded or modify my house side to accept a bonded generator without creating the double ground.

[@diamondgirl999]

​@@UncleFabReviewsThank you.

[@UncleFabReviews]

@@diamondgirl999 I might add that I disconnected only when use as a backup home generator. When I use it as a standalone generator out in the field I connect the bond back.

[@diamondgirl999]

@@UncleFabReviews I see. A video showing how you do this would be so helpful -- in the future. Thank you.

[@UncleFabReviews]

@@diamondgirl999 here is the guide along with a video help.championpowerequipment.com/article/tf6pcn7ywf-converting-your-inverter-to-floating-neutral-201407

[@JustEnjoyingLife73]

Can this model be paralleled? I don’t see any ports. Can I just wire multiple male connectors in parallel so the machines will synchronize their waveforms?

[@UncleFabReviews]

It is not designed to be paralleled, i wouldn't recommend it.

[@thepugvilleexpress7556]

can you plug in a 50 AMP trailer to the 37.5 amp outlet?

[@UncleFabReviews]

Yes. The big receptacle will take a NEMA 14-50R 50 amp plug. However, the max amp that will come out of the generator is 37.5 because it's only 11k watts.

[@thepugvilleexpress7556]

@@UncleFabReviews Thanks, I understand. I am wondering if one of those exhaust extension kits on Amazon will quiet it down even more?

[@UncleFabReviews]

That i can not help with. Sorry

[@davef.2329]

The availability and cost of fuel to operate this big-boy may be an issue at times. Looks easy enough that the whole family can use it. Thanks.

[@UncleFabReviews]

It was hard to get find one, seems the supply chain has caught up. And Champion boasts 15hrs on 6 gallons at 1/4 load. If you aren't running an AC, or a big electric heat load ur pretty much under 1/4 load the whole time. For the price, it's a great deal. Some other big names 2x the cost. Thanks for watching!

[@jeffbecraft7174]

So $35 a day. That's alot

[@UncleFabReviews]

@@jeffbecraft7174 "A lot" is relative. Depends on the time of year and where you are located. Where I'm at in Texas today, gasoline can be found for 2.50 / gal, at 9 gallons a day that's roughly 23 dollars. To save a few hundred dollars in food and drink stored in fridges and freezers, as well as be a little more comfortable at the same time, some find it worth it. To each thier own

[@JustEnjoyingLife73]

Wow, I didn't realize you could start a 5-ton AC with a 9000W generator even with a kit on the AC. Have you ever tried one of those soft start or kick start capacitor kits before you got your Micro-Air Easystart? I'm really curious how much better the Micro-Air is. Does the Micro-Air make the compressor start silently without that loud buzz when a normal compressor first kicks in? That's actually what I would buy it for because I'm tired of hearing my AC start.

[@UncleFabReviews]

The micro air easy start is actually a soft start device. I have another video on my old Channel about how the easy start works where you can see how it starts the fan first so the amp draw can settle, and it uses its own onboard capacitors to assist the compressor in kicking on and keeping it under 30 amps. Back then I had an older and smaller AC and a smaller generator. But the method of how it works is the same. Since that old video, I upgraded to an efficient new 5 ton. It uses only a little more juice than my old one LOL. I did some extensive research on hard starters and other Solutions and found micro air easy start was the best. Their birth was in the RV world making it possible for small generators to run the air conditioners on large rvs. Just recently they've been making the big step into the residential market now that people want to run their homes off of portable generators. I have been told by a lot of people that my solution is dumb and there is better ones, but I have over 400 hours of generator use, and over 3 years of experience with micro are easy start, and everything has been a great success. Check my old video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGrcqXuYhJx4h80si=zsSA7U3axJN2SF2u

[@UncleFabReviews]

And also not all air conditioners are built the same. I highly recommend using an energy monitor to find out how many watts your AC uses before deciding on a generator to power it.

[@johnclyne6350]

I’m still waiting to see if Champion will make an inverter generator with electronic fuel injection. My Honda EU 7000is smaller in capacity but it’s rated surge watts is 7000 watts but I have tested mine to 9200 watts. The added fuel injection means mine does not need to be primed before remote starting. I have mine in its own custom made vented stainless steel enclosure outside my house so my wife can start it from the comfort of our own home when the power goes out. That’s critical because the last thing I need to hear is my phone ringing at work. I’m a power lineman for the local power company. Every time the power goes out at my house I’m already at work before the storm hits. I just want to focus on what I’m doing & not on the safety of my family. With my Honda it has never let me down. I never have to worry about it flooding on starting. Three switches & one push button & power is back on at my house. I know when I get home & I can go to bed & not have to worry because the safety of my family & me is in Honda’s hands.

[@avguytx4361]

So have you actually tested it on your house yet? I would have personally avoided the MicroAir soft start....especially if it's the Flex version. There are many that are better out there.

[@UncleFabReviews]

I did test it on the house. I showed my energy monitor results of running with the 5-ton AC on and running a 2000-watt microwave at the same time. The rest of my house "always on" like clocks and modems and routers, all the LEDs and TVs aren't even 1000 watts so I did not mention them in the video. However, you see my starting watts in the test included my always-ons and most of the lights simulating regular use when we're are home with a few extras as good measure. I have also run it with the washer and dryer, but those together weren't 2000 watts. I have 10 hours of use on the dial for testing scenarios. It's a pretty solid generator. Time will tell about quality but all the other champions I've had lasted a few hundred with one in the thousands of hours before I sold them. As for the microair... there is Chevy, Ford, dodge, and so on. I went with MicroAir. What you recommend and why?

[@avguytx4361]

@@UncleFabReviews I'd been deliberating on adding some sort of soft start to either the downstairs Rheem 5 ton 2 stage heat pump with an LRA of 153 or the Rhem 2 ton version upstairs with an LRA of 53. I started calling around all the local HVAC companies the city deals with and talking with our city electricians (I'm city network admin) asking their thoughts, what they sold, is it safe on my 6 year old units, etc. Some mentioned pulling off the MicroAir's because of failure and going with ICM Controls, which a few locations stock. There was another company I'd seen online, Active Controls, Llc, with his version which didn't have to do any "learning" and was just a 4 wire setup. I even called the Rheem company out of Ft Smith, AR trying to get some tech information but they can't seem to come up with a phone number for their tech side; they've given me two numbers and both were disconnected. Boy, that instills a lot of confidence. lol So I have no first hand experience with any installs with them....just trying to cover my bases and not void any part of my 10 year warranty on the units that remains. Great video on the Champion, btw. I contemplate going to a larger inverter gen over my Genmax GM7500aIED so I can run the water heater, mainly, or just getting a 2nd Genmax and running in parallel for 11,000 watts on propane. But, that uses more propane than the single larger model of the Champion 201417, Genmax & Pulsar 10500 models, or even the big loud Westinghouse Wgen11500tfc. What monitoring are you using? I ordered the Emporia Vue Gen 3 with 16 connections so I can get an idea of both line power and generator power. Maybe it will work good.

[@TOURMANBOB]

Price and quality of Champion products is great. However, any large generator that can potentially be used for home backup today MUST come as a tri fuel unit allowing inexpensive hookup to a home gas supply. Where I am in Canada, this unit would cost about $5 an hour to run on 50% load versus 36 cents an hour on natural gas. A "no brainer" for long term outages.....

[@UncleFabReviews]

That is very true. There is a company called us carburetor that makes a motorsnorkel trifuel kit that attaches to this with minimal effort. It's less than $200 and gives you the tri-fuel options. I may have got it for my unit and I'm working on another video.

[@wes326]

I think there will be a lot of tri-fuel inverter generators coming to the market soon. That's what people will want.

[@AgentOffice]

They have this in tri fuel

[@UncleFabReviews]

@@AgentOffice I just checked the website and it only shows a dual fuel option for 11k watts. You have a link for trifuel 11k inverter?

[@AgentOffice]

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[@projectswithjw]

Nice video 👍

[@UncleFabReviews]

Thanks for the visit

[@JohnCillian]

They released a dual and a tri fuel of this same generator. i will buy the trifuel once it goes in stock

[@UncleFabReviews]

Haven't seen the trifuel one yet, just the dual. However i have converted mine to trifuel.

[@TonySummy]

You put the feet on backwards. :)

[@UncleFabReviews]

Yep, i mention it. Not sure what I was thinking. I even tell you not to do it like I did and show the instructions. Have to keep my Watchers on their feet!

[@brjr2009]

It's from china, it has to be good.. No thanks. I will keep my 35 year old onan that has never let me down.

[@UncleFabReviews]

We've been running champions for over a decade, never had a problem. Works for us.

[@markdenenberg9110]

Onan bge spec c 4000watts twin cylinder 1800 rpm. 4500 hrs still going strong.

[@dj-bn1fj]

I got the Champion 8500 because it runs off of LP as I did gas one for years and they are pain to maintain over the years and oh yea 4 carburetor replacements over the years at 100 bucks at a pop. so done with gas with 10% ETH,

[@UncleFabReviews]

Valid concern, sorry you had to go through that trouble. Propane just isn't cost effective for me. I use marine fuel stabilizer for all of my fuel and get the ethanol free stuff too. My last champion went three years with no problems. I also have a natural gas kit I'm going to be putting on this machine shortly. Thanks for watching!

[@TOURMANBOB]

@@dj-bn1fj I own 10 generators and have never had a problem as long as I stabilize the gas and mechanically drain the carbs after every use.