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[@cheapaudioman]

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[@chrisodillman3355]

Established titles is a scam.. there are a lot of videos out regarding this in the last few days.

[@cheapaudioman]

@@chrisodillman3355 you mean a foreign national can’t buy land in another country online without any documentation or signatures!? I am truly shocked

[@rickfriedel08]

This really is something you should look into and reconsider the sponsorship.

[@timkelmer1268]

this is a scam dont support it! Please support the actual company that plants the trees onetreeplanted. They have no evidence of giving any money to them.

[@jameskegen6812]

This sponsor gives no documentation as to whether it gives the money to the charity it claims. It is a scam, don't support it.

[@edverbeek6292]

Can you tell us something about the sound quality: - WiFi compared to hard wired? - wiim mini optical output compared to PRO optical output? - inside DAC of the PRO compared to external DACs? - digital coax output of the PRO compared to coax output of Bluesound Node (and/or other streamers)? That would be very helpful for me making a choise. Thanks, from the Netherlands

[@pmrribeiro]

Nice! :) You forgot to mention it uses the same DAC as the mini. Such a DAC would be expected in something at that price-point, but people may have other expectation for the Pro.

[@lsaideOK]

I believe they expect people to bypass the DAC using the optical and/or coaxial outs. That's the way I would. Nice that it has so many inputs and outputs.

[@brs2c]

This is exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks! I can still with the mini…I do wish the Cheapaudioman would take a little time to understand and explain the hardware and design of what makes the gear he reviews better/worse/same as other gear. I don’t need or want an EE, but a little bit of design/hardware detail would make a huge difference in the value of this channel.

[@jimfarrell4635]

I agree to an extent but without a better DAC it's really just a slightly more flexible mini with Chromecast. Not sure if that justifies the extra moolah. If you don't need ethernet or Chromecast and are using an outboard DAC then just get mini.

[@aoelounge6446]

That's too bad. I was hoping the Wiim Pro would have a better DAC. I already have a Wiim Mini. What I miss are better DAC and a remote control.

[@ramondelgado6778]

@@aoelounge6446 If they really wanted to be a "Node killer" they could incorporate a good DAC, remote, and a subwoofer output and sell it for $249 - 299. It would sell like hot cakes and be considered an insane value.

[@FryTvNow]

Established Titles will go down as one of the biggest money scams on youtube,, @cheapauidioman I love your channel ,, I hope you look into this soon,,Much Luv

[@Grassy_Gnoll]

Apparently not. Still the pinned comment.

[@wtcwtc9861]

Thanks Randy. I'll be buying the Wiim Pro and a Geshelli J2 DAC for less money than I'd pay for a NODE.

[@telegrammethe_applecircle6381]

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[@darkoresnik75]

I just bought 2 of the minis before the pros were announced. They both came with power bricks. Crazy easy to set up. I use it to send hi res audio from Qobuz to my receiver using the optical cable and it is fantastic. I assumed it wouldn't come with cables and was pleasantly surprised that it did. I might have bought the pro if I had known about it, but I'm insanely happy listening to quality of audio the mini puts out.

[@Chiroman527]

Hi Darko, I'm somewhat Ignorant of Music Streamers. Did you connect your phone playing Qobuz to your receiver using an optical cable? how did you do that? I appreciate your advice.

[@darkoresnik75]

@@Chiroman527 when you set up the WiiM you have to use the WiiM app to set it up. Once you are in the WiiM app you give it your login info for Qobuz and other streaming services. When playing music you select the service and song in the phone app and the WiiM gets it directly from your network, it does not pass through your phone first. The phone app just tells it what to do then the WiiM gets it from your wireless if it is the mini or from wireless or network cable in the cast of the WiiM pro. Your phone is a remote control only and not involved in the quality of the music. Your phone connects to the WiiM over your WiFi network. The WiiM mini connects to your receiver over optical or to it's rca or 3.5mm input. The phone has no physical connection to the wiim. If you use the optical connection like I did then your receiver's dac processes the audio signal instead of the WiiM's dac. If you use the 3.5mm out on the WiiM then the WiiM's dac does the digital to analog conversion. The optical is the preferred connection if your receiver supports it. The WiiM pro has an optical in as well as an optical out but the phone still connects over wifi

[@dextermorgan1]

@@darkoresnik75 Can you bypass the DAC in this and use an external DAC?

[@darkoresnik75]

@@dextermorgan1 Room Yes. I have 3 of the WiiM's. 1 old receiver, no DAC that uses WiiM's DAC via the analog audio out. Room 2 WiiM's over optical, which bypasses the DAC into a Merantz sr6015 using the merantz's DAC. Room 3 WiiM optical out to Geshelli j2 DAC. J2 analog out to Merantz sr6015. The geshelli j2 is the active DAC there.

[@Pyrates]

Mine just arrived, I am now running Flac audio via optical cables. Wow. Thanks Randy!

[@mbk337]

So glad I didn't buy a second Mini for my basement setup. Now I can pick this up for my main and toss the mini in the basement. Thanks Randy!

[@AccuphaseMan]

Unsubscribed because you're willingly scamming your viewers. This is very disappointing to see

[@christopherhachet5184]

I added this. Amazed at how well it works.

[@zackw4941]

I started with a Wiim Mini a little before the Pro came out. Works great! I recently upgraded to the Pro in order to have automatic pass-through for the TV. This feature works quite reliably. Becuase of this one feature, I am able to use a quality DAC to feed the system without any extra complexity for my GF to deal with. On a side note, I tried out a MiniDSP SHD and it didn't sound quite as good streaming. That's a $1400 unit.

[@Acoustic_Theory]

The reason you need a streamer if you have a computer is that the streamer is way easier, and it goes in the equipment rack, and the app becomes your remote. The Wiim mini is killer and I can't wait to grab the Pro.

[@khrispeter85]

Nice! A great central unit and the mini’s for a real multi room setup

[@MattCoykendall1]

Hey Randy, The middle button on the front selects the playlist you have selected as “1”

[@Lucas-qo5go]

I have a raspberry pi (bought when they were like $49.99) streamer and aside from having to reboot it occasionally it sounds great.

[@ADREISTER]

Hey Randy! Thanks for covering the new WiiM. Personally, I couldn't care less about commercials or sponsored ads. It sucks that you need to do them at all, but just take their money and let the idiots stew in the shame of not having their own channel get sponsored. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@diyenthu2844]

Randy thank you! What's your thought on the built in DAC? Thought it was the TI Burr-Brown PCM5121 DAC?

[@DavidPluimer]

Just put in the order for this. Pairing it with a Aiyima T9 and a pair of Emotiva B1+. Putting the living room TV into it with the WIIM. Haven't had anything close to this in almost 30 years. Really looking forward to it.

[@superpeca]

I can stil make a case (for some people) for the Echo Link/Bluesound Node over Wiim - the subwoofer out with bass management (high frequency cut off) . I plan on adding a sub at some point and this capability will be, for me, worth it's weight in gold. Again, that's only me and my use case but I believe if they add full bass management in the future (not just subwoofer out) they would make a lot of competition obsolete. Maybe they should go with two versions of the device - a new mini without an internal DAC (pure streamer) and with sub out and a PRO with a more decent DAC than the one inside it now. Just a thought...

[@ramondelgado6778]

100 % agree with you! It's a bummer that they still use the same DAC, although, its better than NOT having a DAC. Most audio nerds understand/accept they will be using an outboard DAC whether it is an external stand alone DAC or the DAC in your receiver/integrated amplifier. I think WiiM should just go for the juggular and make a PRO + version, that has a really good built in DAC, a remote, and a subwoofer output, and keep it under $300.

[@GregWalrath]

I thought I missed something, but I guess I didn't. What did you think of the DAC? Is it any better than the one in the Mini, or should we bypass it?

[@jimfarrell4635]

Same DAC, unfortunately.

[@fusionfan6883]

Randy, you might want to rethink Established Titles as there is material appearing suggesting they are there are serious issues with their offering. I saw a detailed video on YT debunking them, and there is no clear evidence they are planting trees. Btw, do you do not legally own the plot of land allocated to you.

[@justplanefred]

This is awesome to hear. A friend and I were having a conversation a while back about streamers, and he was saying the streamer makes a huge difference in the sound of your setup. Sounds like those may be a good first streamer for me for something like Tidal to connect to

[@kaufmanat1]

If you're using the digital out, and avoiding the inbuilt DAC, I don't think the streamer does anything the affect the sound at all. It just connects to the inteternet and stream the data. I may be wrong, but pretty sure the streamer has zero affect on sound quality unless you use its dac.

[@jimfarrell4635]

@@kaufmanat1 I would disagree on that, having used different streamers without DACs for quite some time. I have consistently noticed significant improvement going from Chromecast Audio ( that did have a DAC but I didn't use it ) to Auralic Aries Femto to Auralic Aries G2. It's down to implementation, power supply, galvanic isolation, USB handling, clock etc. However I do think the Wiim and the Pro are fantastic products and using an external DAC is the way to go before spending bigger bucks on a better streamer.

[@NosEL34]

@@jimfarrell4635 yeah I agree with you...I've tried the Node, Cambridge CXN2, WiiM, Ifi Zen Stream, Arcam SA30, as well as using my phone with USB adapter into stereo. As much as I wish that a bit perfect signal would sound the same from whatever streamer into the same Dac it just isn't true. There are definitely things going on in a streamer that effect the sound, some more than others. Some sound the same, but the ones that stick out usually have a quieter background, which I think allows us to hear more detail and effects things like imaging and soundstage. But I also think the WiiM is a great product.. especially for it's price. Their Home app is better than most. The Zen and Arcam app is basically useless to me lol.

[@kaufmanat1]

@@jimfarrell4635 good points

[@jeffwhitehead6268]

Thanks for the great review! I am excitedly adding the Wiim to my holiday wish list! My only issue here is there was a missed opportunity to do the awesome looking Wiim app some justice by singing “a-Wiim a-app” along to “The Lion Sleeps Tonight”, but I will make sure to do so when mine comes in. 😂

[@moblitzz]

I just connected my Wiim Pro today running with Tidal and it works amazing. I have had a Wiim mini in my shop for awhile and have always been happy with that. My system is a Cambridge AXR100 with a Cambridge DACmagic 100 and Polk R200 speakers. I am thinking of getting a new DAC but I really like the sound of the DAC magic.

[@user-hb9mz2hp2g]

People are crazy with all those online services, but imho the most important is just to stream from USB pendrive/disk. This device do not have any possibility to play your own files except NAS, what i dont like.

[@randybehenna3763]

Afternoon Randy hope you have a great day

[@olbucky9413]

I missed out on the Brooklyn bridge when it was available so I’m really pleased that Established Titles are available…everybody says I’m a prince. Lost my pet rock.

[@torfinnjohnsrud793]

This is fantastic Just got it yesterday because I moved my stereo system to where I don't have a LAN connection, which my ancient SONOS connect needed. The app is extremely intuitive and effective, better than SONOS in my mind. I had the whole thing set up in less than five minutes. I am not using the DAC as I just have digital out to my receiver. Ease of use is 10/10, aesthetic is 10/10 for me, and since I'm just using it as a wireless source, I'm not worried about sound quality as it is bit perfect and supports everything I will give it. Great product for sure, and makes the Sonos Port look like highway robbery

[@andremaia2730]

Would love to hear your thoughts on a direct comparison with the bluesound node!

[@NosEL34]

With the newer upgraded internal computer and new Wired Ethernet input the WiiM Pro could be a vast improvement on what was already a pretty decent streamer. The price is right on these streamers that's for sure, would be awesome if the new one improved on sound quality

[@jesseballard4753]

I gave Sith Title $2 and my new name is Prince Longmember Village Slayer.

[@ginom407]

This will replace my Echo Link in my main system. Looking forward to the release, please keep us posted! Thanks Randy! 👍👍👍

[@ericksonjustinAK]

Personally, I don’t need the unboxing experience at all and would prefer more details about the DAC and the differences from the mini besides the input and outputs. You’re still my favorite audio man and you’re cheap! Thanks Randy.

[@thatsoutstanding]

i just purchased the wiim mini.. and it came with a usb-c cable AND usb adapter for power... and they still give the optical cable. for like $80 bucks. crazy good value.

[@dextercool]

Surely the DAC in this is inferior to that in the BLUESOUND.

[@sabrowenie]

There is a subjective difference to my ears. But there are too many variables in the chain. My main is a Node. Hooked the Mini via a Schiit Modi3 Tested on Tidal Connect with non-MQA tracks Seemed a tad more ‘compressed’ but heck for my office system it’s better than my old setup.

[@jeromeb1878]

Definitely looking forward to picking this up. Looking forward to being able to select between home theater input and music streaming through my phone or tablet. I think that it will be a better option than the Arylic S50 pro+ with physical remote for me. Thanks again for your reviews and recommendations.

[@thomassemrov9403]

Darko Audio also did a review of Wiim Pro, he mentions that it uses the same DAC as the Mini and figures Wiim did this assuming most users will use an external DAC. If you already own a Wiim Mini feeding an external DAC I doubt you'll getter better sound from the Pro unless the coax output provides an improvement over the optical.

[@jianyongyu2303]

I already wanted to buy before I finished watching your video. Went to Amazon don’t find it, went to wiim website they don’t show nothing about it. Then came back to your video…. Oh not out yet lol. can’t wait!

[@HobbyTalk]

I love my mini, appreciate you bringing it to my attention

[@ronalcasid3844]

It’s a great looking device and I’ll probably pick one up but without HDMI it doesn’t replace the Bluesound Node for me.

[@Boxkerp]

So, I just bought this for my home theater receiver, (because HEOS isn't as good as it could be) and was shocked that the software looks exactly like the 4stream app for the Arylic S50 pro streamer, and Outlaws RR2160 MKII receiver(it would be cool to see your review on that.) I can even see all devices in each specific software.I didn't check to see if each app could control all devices, though. Are all these companies under one umbrella?

[@MindfulProgramming]

I'm not certain that this is *the* definitive answer, but some of these brands are powered by Linkplay technology in some capacity. This includes SoC modules and a standard companion app. Source: Linkplay website Also: "Welcome to Arylic's developer documentation. This documentation describes the API of DIY audio boards, which are manufactured by the Linkplay company. Their boards are so called white label solutions, which means that hundreds of brands use them in their own products (as Arylic does). There are many well-known manufacturers that use Linkplay as their core." Source: From the Arylic HTTPAPI Developer page Meanwhile, it is apparent that WiiM is actually the in-house brand of Linkplay.

[@johncameron6289]

Well thank you sooo much> I just bought and installed the Bluesound Node and so you’ve ruined my day. LOL

[@thomasward00]

I have and love the Wiim mini, Hopefully at some time in the future they add a USB port to the Pro so that we can read our Hi Res music files.

[@edwardlegenza2217]

Love my mini. However after three weeks returned the Pro. Needs to be restarted daily or even twice a day. Mini is ok in same network setting

[@tomkimes]

Interesting product. Considering replacing my Pi with it. I have a couple of questions... and if there is some documentation on-line I'll be happy to look at it. But short of that the two features I did not hear addressed are whether Apple Music is supported and also whether it is Roon Ready. If it does these along with all the other features you mentioned, it's a no-brainer buy for me!

[@marcusedwards8283]

I can only speak for the WIIM mini but I have two of them and use Apple Music, Spotify and Tidal with them. I use wifi for Spotify and Tidal and the Airplay connection for Apple Music. I do believe I notice a slight difference in volume levels with Airplay being slightly lower in volume compared to using WIFI, but not a big difference. One cool thing about using Airplay through my iPad Pro is that I can play through both my office setup and my bedroom setup at the same time. I also use the WIIM minis to play music from my NAS drive. I have been fully satisfied with the WIIM mini but I wouldn't mind having the ethernet port that the WIIM Pro has. Other than that though, I don't really need the other connections the Pro offers because I have my minis connected to the Geshelli Labs J2 DAC.

[@johnristheanswer]

He said he connected using an iPhone, so assume it does.

[@tonym8358]

I wouldn't change my Pi with Digione which is a Bluesound killer, He never compared the sound of the old Wiim with the new Wiim which is using the same DAC, I can't care less about functionality and easy-to-use...what matters is how sounds.

[@tomkimes]

@@tonym8358 My Pi is connected to a Modi 3 DAC and it sounds great. What's not great is how unreliable it is, from freezing up to goofy playing now, to the Pi's always live HDMI output which messes with the CEC functions. So if I can find a streamer that is simple, has the features I need and is reliable , I can connect it to my Modi and it should sound the same without all the headaches!

[@tonym8358]

@@tomkimes I am using MoOde better sounding (equalizer, upscale rates) and reliable performance, I stop using Volumio constantly dropping terrible

[@knobbshots]

Can’t wait to get one and glue quarters to the top, lol

[@markdemariassy8685]

Great that this is finally out and you got your hands on it, but I think your enthusiasm got the better of you a bit as there are still some unanswered questions for me, e.g. why would you chose this over the mini, is it worth upgrading if you have a mini, does ethernet sound better than WiFi, does coax sound different to optical, why would you feed optical into it (when the onboard dac is bad), if you connect sources to it can you stream those to other wiim mini/pros on the same network? Etc. For me it's a no-brainer because my hifi gear is in a spot where WiFi is weak, but I have ethernet I can use, so solves the only problem I had!...love your channel & greetings from the UK!👍

[@toanduong]

I agree that this "review" is sloppy. To me, the implied answers to your questions are as follow: Preamp function, more connections No SQ upgrade here if that is what you are asking. Only more preamp function and connections No, not enough SQ difference over ethernet to even gush with one sentence No, again coax is just another mentioned connection More connections for different source with optical input Relay streaming over a streamer is redundant, isn't it? Assume no if it's not mentioned. Yes, wired connection is faster, more reliable, and preferable with no drop signal

[@dextermorgan1]

@@toanduong Can you bypass the internal DAC in this and run to an external DAC? I would assume so.

[@blujack100]

I use an Apple TV first ver to stream anything I can play on my iPhone to my vintage receiver. What big benefit is there to using a streamer device like this. Thanks.

[@Skipow10]

Randy, I feel your choice in sponsorship may be a bad look. Please also always stay true to your honest, trustworthy and original style of reviews. You are moving fast. ☺️

[@bryanbassett2110]

Is this a joke? Sarcasm isn't always easy to pick up on through text

[@peterbooth6753]

@@bryanbassett2110 In the last two weeks my favorite MMA podcaster, favorite wine podcaster, favorite audio podcaster have got established titles as a sponsor. I am sick to death of them.

[@kimbalxyz2]

Yes, this is a little much, I think it's time for me to move on. It is a shame what people will do for a buck !

[@NosEL34]

Guess he should just make daily videos for us to watch but not make a buck to keep the channel going. Gosh damn socialist's lol

[@haaspaas2]

Thats "Lord Randy" to you.

[@johnezzard680]

Nice review. What is t he amp (pre amp?) to the left of Iron Man, over Randy's shoulder?

[@jimshaw899]

Buncha people are waiting for the Pro to ship. One thing you didn't cover clearly is that both WiiMs have built-in DACs that are pretty darn good. So a WiiM can be a good rescue for older and vintage amps to get into high quality streaming. No other DAC needed. And it might make redundant the older not-so-great internal DAC in an aging amp; just connect WiiM's RCA output to the amp's line in. Another feature that often goes under reported is whole house streaming of one music stream with the music synchronized -- so you don't hear big echo-like effects when all-room-systems are playing. Unlike you, I let the WiiM app control each system's volume (fixed output off). Yeah, the stream is no longer bit perfect, but you don't have to go around each system changing the volume controls. Just do it with the app. [And my ears are far from bit perfect at 24/192k.] ..... My only difficulty with the Mini is that, when they implemented gapless playback, it started halting (mid-track), sometimes just cutting out, sometimes repeating, sometimes 'gaplessly' starting some other track. (I use Amazon HD.) Yes, I've submitted my complaint to WiiM. So far, no joy (as of last night). In my house, I have absolutely zero want or need for gapless. If it's gonna FU an otherwise good product, let me switch it off. ..... I would rather not be a streamer competitor to the WiiMs. I think my board of directors, and my shareholders would tell me to do something else, entirely. WiiMs value proposition makes a train wreck of the older market paradigm.

[@nickbdy]

Just to check; I can change the volume from my phone to the device and this will change the volume on a vintage amp?? I’m picking up a pioneer sx-750 this week and have been looking for streaming solutions for it, so I’m really glad someone has mentioned the feature. I’m thinking of connecting the Wiim Mini with 3.5mm Jack to RCA cable, connected to the AUX input on the amp. If this works, it’s a no brainier!! 🙂👍🏼

[@jimshaw899]

@@nickbdy Yes. Just make sure the WiiM app on your phone is set to NOT have fixed output. This will even give individual volume controls on your phone app for each WiiM it is playing, as well as a master volume control for all.

[@dsartain3404]

Thanks for a great review. I’m subscribing. I’m getting a wiim pro for streaming mainly but will run the tv through it if there are no lip syncing issues.

[@deeptill6735]

It may be cheaper than a Bluesound but you're going to have to add a DAC to compete with it.

[@moblitzz]

Pro is available as of this morning on Amazon - placed my order

[@aammdj]

I love this device but I can't get my digital audio TV line out to work with it.

[@P194-s3i]

I hope they release this sooner than later!

[@MM-vv5pk]

Arrrghhh! I just bought WiiM mini last night. Wake up to this review!😂

[@lukehuang8323]

Do you know if there is any dedicated streamer (besides Sonos) that integrates with KZbin Music? I can’t find any….

[@DomRivers67]

The Wiim Mini....and Pro Doing what a Yamaha WXAD-10 has been doing for 5 years for a similar cost And somehow blowing everyone's minds. Inexplicable

[@robcaputo9708]

Hi Randy, love what you do. I want to download hi res recording of some favs. Can I then play this using the Wiim of a thumb drive. PS I notice that your down to earth approach is influencing some of my fav audio influencers. Great stuff !

[@joebest6582]

Guys this sponsorship takes the money that would instead go towards conservation work. Please watch Scott Shafers video.

[@robertosantos6147]

The mini is 79 Dollars right now with Cybermonday, just bought it!

[@technopsychobedlam]

My understanding is that Established Titles is scammy. Sorry Randy 😞

[@moribnd]

Is there another streamer with a 10-band EQ (or similar), a subwoofer out and a better DAC than the WiiM Pro?

[@kl9941]

That little puck is absolutely the best deal in hifi. Should be budget product of the year. The new pro appears to raise the bar with all of the connection options.

[@kellybest2357]

Help. My iphone 11 doesn't have a lossless music setting. If I use the Wiim app from this iphone 11 to stream Amazon music via wifi am I getting lossless music?

[@Guitaural.]

This WIIM looks outstanding! I'm new to multi-room streaming so this may be the way to go. Would you recommend 2-3 of these for my scenario?: Living Rm has Roku stick into older Elite Receiver into TV; Family Rm has TV with Roku stick into Soundbar; would like to also stream to some nice bookshelf speakers out on deck. Do you think one Pro and (2) minis would work? Thanks for showing this!

[@KohlaBrooks]

You should probably update the description with a Wiim Pro affiliate link - I want to buy one but can't support you until you provide the link :) Thanks for the info

[@mistermushroom652]

How would I stream Spotify into a powered set of speakers using this device?

[@SimonLeicester]

Skip to 3 minutes in when he finally gets to the point and you can avoid the sponsorship guff. An Interesting video from there onwards

[@iivvrryy]

Would this be a good replacement for a Sony str dh190? Looking to get more out of my tv setup.

[@donovannel9111]

First. Thankyou for explaining the nines from Klipsch. I need advice I love the nines, aswell as JAMO C97 11,Dali oberon 9 and polk r700

[@RockinJohnny]

Bought one was hoping to run my old turntable a Garrard AT6 through it hoping it would work but no sound as I still need a pre amp so why not put a pre amp in? It says turn your old gear into smart but this is not very smart is it? The app I found very buggy took ages to setup then the thing was faulty it turned out the optical socket was faulty and sound was coming on and off and drop outs. So now I have to return it.

[@pezzaruss]

Hi, How would you connect the WIIM Pro to a Topping D10?

[@ianchestnutt3327]

Hey, I am really considering buying this to replace my arcam aircam 2 dac and Yamaha wxad 10 streamer. I’ve heard so many good things about the streaming aspect of the wiim but just how good is the dac? And would it be worth replacing my current set up with the Wiim pro +?

[@shaunyweaver1144]

Wimm have yet again smashed it out of the park . Yes there are better streamers or transports, but for price and functionality no one gets close . I bit the bullet and have gone masters on Tidal with the E50 seriously impressed, I know many don’t believe in it but it’s good (see how it goes) .

[@louiepaki3737]

What's the point having a Chromecast audio connection in the app? Stream to another streamer in another room?

[@ronb6333]

I’m looking to get the Wiim pro will this work for all steaming music KZbin music, Spotify, etc.

[@Brian-lr1up]

What was the tube amp in the background???

[@justinschlicher9391]

Randy, I'm pretty sure you have mentioned using the Wiim Pro as a preamp (directly into a DAC and then into a power amp). I am considering that method as well. Do you get better sound that way, or is it better to go fixed output to DAC then out to a preamp/integrated/receiver?

[@dextermorgan1]

I'm wondering about this too. Did you ever buy one?

[@emmottataolcom]

well,looks like weempro and plus has NO coax in so forget using your old CD player as a transport, unless it has optical out on the player...

[@GrahamAndersonis]

I tried to use a wiim mini with my aiyma T9 with KZbin music. When I replaced the wiim (and airplay) with a Chromecast, the process became much easier/simplified and fun. Playing music and tv on the same system became more cohesive with less steps. The one thing I would like is the ability to control volume from my iphone/iPad within the the dac-amp, perhaps with hdmi e-arc? This all a fun experiment for me-I’d replace the T9-as long as it’s not 3x the price. Perhaps it’s the wrong forum for this question?

[@chemicallust77]

Does the optical output in stereo only, or can it send 5.1 signal

[@stacksmasher]

You should remove the sponser as they have been identified as known Chinese scammers. Its 100% fraud.

[@Phillyo118]

What would be the advantage of this over something like my Denon X-3500H please? Obviously I use the AVR for TV and Movies with a 5.1.2 setup, but is there any advantage to the WIIM Pro for listening to music?

[@mikewurlitzer5217]

Just ordered the Pro! Hope this solves a very strange problem. I've been streaming a few local radio stations and playing music from my OpenMediaVault server on a RPi. Every time I do this, my internet speed drops from 100+ Mps to 7 or 8 Mps download while the upload speed remains 9 or 10 up. Rebooting the router does nothing but I can restore the download speed by rebooting the Spectrum Modem 1,2,3 times. Hope by running off Ethernet instead of WiFi might make a difference [although there is no sound reason it should].

[@GrantArdern]

Would you pair it with a Prozor DAC?

[@amazoidal]

Problem with using a computer as streamer 1. Noise from switching power supply 2. Internal audio card affects tone/fidelity. 3. Questionable quality DAC.

[@donovannel9111]

Please help me with AVR .I will listen most of my music thru Spotify and KZbin. I won't say no for a home theater 5.1.2 system but I prefer floorstanding speakers. And what " Dac" or streaming device should I use I've been a police officer for 33 years and my dream from high school was to own a good looking system.

[@colindoyle9876]

No such devices that are just digital, wired ethernet and just plays network files including dsd. A lot of people has external docs and only need the digital source.

[@stadjestem]

Still using CCA via optical to A-S501 DAC, Tidal HiFi. Why would I consider spending 80$ or more on Wiims ?

[@hassannasir90]

Wiim Pro vs Argon Solo. Need music streamer with my integrated Amp. Which one to get. Please advice. Thanks in advance.

[@roadeyerob]

Not sure it's a "Node killer", since the Node actually has a decent DAC, while it looks like most Wiim Pro users will still use and external DAC. Also, some of us still prefer a hefty-feeling build quality, if anything as re-assurance the unit will last longer and survive the odd abuse.

[@jeebtheboss]

I have a couple of questions please, if you can help: 1. Is it possible to "limit" the volume coming out of the Wiim Mini using the app setting of the Wiim Mini, so somebody can't push the volume too high without having access to the app itself? I own a house which I rent on airbnb, I have an amplifier providing a bit too much volume, so I'd like to limit the output volume thanks to the Wiim Mini if possible. 2. Possible to connect to bluetooth without having access to the app itself? Thanks

[@BubbaGeeSD]

I bought both this and the Node. The Node sounds significantly better thru the SPDIF out to a good quality DAC. WiiM - you get what you pay for. Good value but does not beat Node. Sounds veiled in comparison. Lumin is another level above those again. You get what you pay for in the end.

[@angelOcrisu]

If the pro doesn't have a power off switch it's a downside like with the mini. With the mini connected to my external dac, the coaxial input doesn't work until it's pulled out of the socket.

[@mmmilieva209]

WiiM Pro Plus amazing music streaming device. One question Tidal MQA 24/96 max bitrate or full 24/192? Thanks advance

[@erikreynolds2534]

I am currently using ROKU devices in 3 rooms for all our video streaming needs. On my main system, the ROKU is connected to the Sony Receiver. On occasion I'll also play Spotify through the ROKU. Will I get a better sound quality streaming Spotify through the WIIM Mini or the WIIM Pro?

[@nazcaplain]

I read that Wiim is about to include Logitech Squeezebox functionality to it - and soon. As a guy majorly in the LMS camp, that's RAD.

[@telegrammethe_applecircle6381]

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[@garymayes4881]

Hi guys..looking for some advice if possible please? I have a Wiim Mini and an Amazon Echo Sound 5. Is there a way to stream from the Wiim and have the album art / lyrics to appear on the screen of The Show. I have tried various ways, but no luck so far. Any ideas would be welcome. Many thanks. 🤘