NEW CHESS CHEATING SCANDAL??????????

[@arthoormoorgen9492]

That tweet from Magnus will cover Levy's expenses for the rest of the year 😂.

[@joekazama2875]

🤣🤣🤣

[@sagargupta3144]

hope this get pinned :)

[@yume828]

what tweet?

[@musamula3709]

😂😂😂 How accurate

[@akelakela5524]

Why pinning? This was absolutely hilarious. He meant it like a joke

[@Ebobster]

1. Rules should be consistent; 2. Smartphone use by spectators should not be allowed in the playing hall while any game is in progress; 3. Some form of broadcast delay should always be in place.

[@danielestrada3390]

A quarter of an hour of delay maybe

[@disabledchatzen5276]

Why not delay it the full length of the game? What's the downside to ensuring the integrity of the game?@@danielestrada3390

[@MkLC04]

​@@danielestrada3390 at minium

[@Necro-the-Pyro]

Yea i feel like its in the same category as taking a phone call while in a movie theater. Its disruptive and inconsiderate regardless.

[@Narrowcros]

True, only problem with carlsen askissers is that they are ignorant. He opponent never wore a smart watch.

[@joshmcginn7546]

At this point i get the feeling you could absolutely destroy magnus if you simply looked at him before a game and said "im going to cheat"

[@axelconde529]

🤑

[@Exponaut_R-01]

Why do I get the feeling if Magnus and Levy played a game OTB and Levy said that it would just be this cancel out thermite fire game of chess where both of them play terribly Magnus because he's concerned Levy because he's playing Magnus

[@krollo8953]

yes but all people would be unnerved by this. cheating has happened in almost every possible sport that can be imagined... i think a higher level of security is needed. like should they be playing in faraday cages. should there be devices that can take pictures of emf ect to demonstrate technology at work. i mean i wouldnt be surprised if a electric ventricular assist device could be tweaked to morse code an answer. people should be concerned about cheating

[@Calibrex_Gaming]

You’d lose then before the begins

[@newbgameplay]

True. I feel bad for him.

[@Carlos-dp5nv]

This reminds me an old story which occurred in a game between Nimzovich and Lasker. Nimzovich was very sensitive to smoke. Lasker, on the other hand, used to smoke one cigar after another while playing. However, he had agreed not to smoke his cigars during the game. After a few moves, Lasker pulled out a big cigar, bit off and put it in his mouth. Then Nimzovich protested to the umpire, the umpire looked and said: "Well, he is not smoking, the cigar is not lit" Nimzovich replied, "But he threatens to smoke! and you know as well as I do that in chess the threat is often stronger than the execution."

[@onyx3019]

everyone is uncomfortable around naked people thats why hikaru promised magnus not to play naked , but after a few moves he unbuttoned the top button on his pineapple shirt ,then magnus protested to the umpire ,the umpire looked and said "well he is not naked ,his shirt is still on" magnus replied "but he threatens to get naked and you know as well as I do that in chess the threat is often stronger than the execution."

[@TheFattestLInHistory]

@@onyx3019🤣🤣🤣

[@yamirruizdiaz6346]

​@@onyx3019😂😂😂

[@1.4142]

then there's the karpov's blueberry yogurt

[@dob2664]

@@onyx3019 you are fucking hilarious

[@xxlCortez]

I think Magnus' problem is that there was recently a cheating scandal that put the effectiveness of rules into question but instead of strictening it, arbiters being lax about existing rules. So, he's being distracted by the fact that nobody learned anything from the previous case.

[@dwightPhoenix]

Or. He wasn't that affected by the watch but subconsciously balloons it as a problem when he embarrassingly loses to a lower rated player. Just sharing another perspective.

[@jordanmungo917]

The arbiter determines if analog watches are allowed or not. The rule Levy showed didn't give a list of items that are banned, it gave an example of items which could be banned at a tournament. That's why it says "E.g" rather than showing a clear list of banned items. The tournament decides what items are banned, and they didn't ban analog watches The part about smartphones in the playing hall is a good point though Magnus are Levy are simply wrong about the rule. Maybe other tournaments ban analog watches, but that's their choice I agree with Hikaru. If we are worried about analog watches then absolutely all jewelry should be banned. It gets to be ridiculous at some point

[@agarrigue002]

@@jordanmungo917 Maybe it should. The law should be clarified to say that any gadget a player wants to wear should be approved beforehand and by approved, it should be carefully studied to make sure no tampering has been done to it. You should absolutely worry about jewelry and any kind of gadgets because it's so easy to conceal electronics nowadays. If we want to preserve the integrity of the game, we need to take cheating seriously.

[@PurpleHazeVanNederlands]

​@@dwightPhoenixThat's exactly what it, Magnus seems to accuss every person who beats him of cheating

[@LOLILALULO]

​@@jordanmungo917 in the list it says clearly WATCHES. When we say watches we say the analog watches, not the smart watches. Or why cannot someone take his wallet with him? What is it a smart wallet? For gods sake some of you people.

[@mostafaalnasr6209]

Chess never fails to speak for itself

[@mr.death7267]

Underrated comment

[@timsagichnicht]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Joren68]

@strawberryramun4646Hans neiman quote

[@erichgerber251]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@EMFObserver]

Remember when this used to be funny?

[@SwiFTDBL]

i can definitely understand how THINKING your opponent MIGHT be cheating would effect your own gameplay / strength.

[@onyx3019]

next up in chess , "my opponents shirt is distracting and creates an unfair advantage" time to play naked

[@roguegamer6969]

​@@onyx3019average 500 rating player

[@Marc467gg]

He was wearing a watch bro chill

[@Mebsuta]

Yes, but this basically exonerated Hans Niemann. Apparently Magnus gets nervous/paranoid when slightly under the thought that he might be playing a cheater, so the problem is just his, and his accusation are less believable because he's prone to making them.

[@hgcrazy6915]

@@Mebsuta i mean he only accused one person. who tbf had chated in the past and of course its a him thing thats what he said in his tweet. the cheating as a whole tho is a chess problem

[@bunkenator]

The Dutch GM Maximiliaan Euwe used to smoke cigar in the playing hall. He said it distracted his opponents. When it became prohibited to smoke at events he used to bring his cigar and put it beside the board. He said that worked just as well.

[@brendanbrown3100]

That wasn’t Euwe - it was Lasker Ithink.

[@bunkenator]

Oh, that's possible,@@brendanbrown3100 I just remember reading about it in Euwe's chess book series, it's possible he was referring to Lasker. But he definitely approved of the methodology (-:

[@Rechnerstrom]

"He is threatening to smoke, and as an old player you must know that the threat is stronger than the execution." - Aaron Nimzowitsch (allegedly) This episode plays quite along that line.

[@greencreature]

The problem is Magnus has now openly admitted his play is affected when he is concerned about cheating. He was obviously concerned when he played Hans. Hans clearly has a checkered past but it does lend credence to the fact that Hans didn't need to cheat to win that match.

[@rorykeegan1895]

Hans is a cheat, not only is he a proven cheat, he's an admitted cheat. Cheats shouldn't be playing in tournaments, simple.

[@oscarosorto2152]

I think people also forget Magnus has autism so it’s harder for him to concentrate with little things

[@dooflydetailguuy4349]

​@@oscarosorto2152he said that when he was a kid all he could think about was philosophy and he determined that the purpose of existence in life is an eternal endless loop so he picked up chess to distract himself.

[@dooflydetailguuy4349]

It's in his interview with Rainn Wilson

[@stianaandal1488]

I dont think Hans cheated OTB. (I dont know if Magnus thinks the same too). However the problem is when you start to think about it. Then you find moves suspicious and you cant get it out of your head

[@arcynic5404]

My new goal in life is not to be so good that people think you’re cheating when you win. Its to be so good that people accuse others of cheating when they win against you.

[@simple45679]

Achieving peak rating of 2880 is hard but good luck

[@LumocolorARTnr1319]

One of the most effective attacks in chess is outside the board; disturb your opponents ability to concentrate. Everyone who played knows how important the setting around the table with the board is.

[@RealCarlosPerez]

I can totally see Magnus being the type of guy who sees a guy who is clearly breaking the rules (although may not be cheating) and is just 100% distracted for sure.

[@stianaandal1488]

Yeah I think the same thing happened with Hans

[@Mathijs303]

Exactly, it's like a surgeon saying, I disinfected my rings very well.

[@vladimirgertner3960]

The rules weren't actually broken. The rules state "electronic devices". A mechanical watch is not included. Even if you list "Watch" as a clarifying measure, the category is still "Electronic devices". Furthermore, the rules state "Unless allowed by an arbiter" which it was.

[@_egghead]

​@@vladimirgertner3960watch is always electronic since it use battery

[@drake4931]

​@@vladimirgertner3960the "electronic devices" thing was in a different category. Pens were listed alongside watch, so clearly they had moved on from just electronics. And I don't see anything about the arbiter being able to allow it. The only thing about the arbiter that I see is saying that you can't refuse a search from one

[@TheBiggestBlue]

Levy: *Points out blemishes in wall* Me: *glances at wall consistently for the rest of the video*

[@corynaberhaus2962]

Kind of like a watch...

[@TheBiggestBlue]

@@corynaberhaus2962 Clever!

[@Narrowcros]

Carlsen: He was cheating with the wall

[@Jartran72]

Thats an old meme from Hikaru to the queens gambit show. Players looking at walls, usualy the ceiling.

[@TheBiggestBlue]

@@Jartran72 while true about it being an old meme, it wasnt the intent behind the comment. I legit just couldn't stop (and now every time I see this room) bringing my eyes to the wall blemish

[@taylaca]

The spectators with smartphones weren't even subtle. They were practically waving them in Magnus's face, taking pictures of him, while the arbiters stood by unconcerned.

[@pierrecurie]

It's that bad?

[@anubizz3]

Then chess should be play inside a box and the player need to play it naked...

[@christopher19894]

Magnus losing to Hans and now Alisher is probably proof that he's entering the twilight of his career. The Hans game was more suspicious, but in the Alisher game, Magnus simply played a bad opening and middlegame, which makes it harder to suspect cheating.

[@PurpleHazeVanNederlands]

the only honest way to beat Magnus now is to play completely naked with a colonoscopy cam up your arse because otherwise he’s already composing the tweet he’s going to send to ruin your career once the game is over.

[@cloudtheavegner1000]

Magnus is one of those obsessive types. He couldn't stop obsessing over the watch, which is something he wasn't used to and it got the better of him. His obsessiveness with chess is also why he's the GOAT. You win some, you lose some.

[@Samibeast8]

He’s autistic as well (which most people forget) which could contribute to that as well

[@cloudtheavegner1000]

@@Samibeast8 there’s mixed information about that so I refrained from saying it. But yes, autistic people are obsessive over things, which makes them great at what they do.

[@conelord1984]

If he dealt with himself instead of making these dramas about it, it would be fine. The problem is the collateral damage of his obsessive behavior. At least less and less people are taking him seriously with each tantrum.

[@cloudtheavegner1000]

@@conelord1984 it’s not a tantrum. He doesn’t blame his opponent and he admits his obsession got the better of him. The fact remains he’s still the best. Given his outlandish personality, I’m amazed he’s avoided drama for this long.

[@matteopacelli9001]

@@Samibeast8magnus is not autistic

[@noamlindell4530]

13:05 it says "not specifically approved by the arbitor"

[@epileptix8954]

This seems super clear. How is it so confusing. "...any electrical device not specifically approved by the arbiter in the playing venue." The arbirter at the venue approved it. How is that event not "following the handbook" when the handbook leaves it to the arbiters discretion?

[@Math.Bandit]

Because in addition to banning anything not specifically approved, there is a second document that was shown that outlines that specific items (watches, pens, wallets) are banned unconditionally. If a restaurant policy says that only approved jackets can be worn to dinner, that doesn't mean I can walk in with an AK47 strapped to my chest as long as the manager is cool with it, since the laws of my country also forbid that.

[@philipchouliaras5879]

It wasnt an electrical device though was it?

[@kju-uu8me]

13:34 I won't recover from that flashbang until the next cheating scandal comes to pay Levys rent

[@The94Beanie]

I think i'm legally blind now ☠️

[@aleksi4836]

Levy never fails to mate from the back

[@AverageCommenterOnYT]

💀

[@mirrorportal1587]

This was a great one lol

[@assassin77FTW]

My vid was better

[@10011110011]

What are you doing step grandmaster?

[@alihijazi4451]

​@@10011110011😂😂

[@DylanWagerMusic]

They should also ban chefs hats, just in case that dude from ratatouille pulls up to the chess competition

[@ThisGuy0903]

Magnus is become such a cry baby (Fischer style). Next level will be Magnus complaining that the opponent is wearing clothes

[@HasanRaju-k5q]

The thing is when you feel like your opponent is cheating,your own game decreases by more than 50% .

[@valiantwarrior1988]

not exactly, unless you focus on it too much and let it hinder your gameplay and that's the case for Magnus

[@HasanRaju-k5q]

@@valiantwarrior1988 sorry but you don't need to focus on that, that comes to your mind automatically

[@valiantwarrior1988]

@@HasanRaju-k5q the case with Magnus was he saw his watch which was against fide rules, he then asked the arbiter about it and told it was against the rules and the arbiter didn't agree. Its the fact that the organization isn't well done and rules aren't being followed and potential cheating maybe lurking around is what messed with his psychologically and he just couldn't focus much which led to his poor play - that knight move.

[@homiealladin7340]

Hikaru has literally beat genuine cheaters before and these gms can tell the difference between an engine playing and an actual human. Magnus knew he wasnt cheating but just wanted an excuse as to why he lost.

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

Not really, I'd be more chill since I'm no longer worried about being out-witted by a fellow human.

[@kheireddineattala1281]

Magnus before he wins: watch Magnus after he looses: watch

[@getfam1liar]

Loses!... I don't know what "looses" is!

[@rdspam]

@@getfam1liarneeds to tighten up his game…

[@kheireddineattala1281]

@@getfam1liar I make this exact spelling mistake so often lol

[@getfam1liar]

@@kheireddineattala1281 totally understandable if English isn't your primary language! Lol

[@susymay7831]

I would not want my opponent being able to look at a watch on his wrist if I were a high stakes chess player.

[@susymay7831]

@@Edd_LShore No one is accusing the winner or either cheating or continually watching his watch. The FIDE rules prohibit the wearing of a watch due to the possibility of high-tech cheating, and I think it is best to literally follow this rule, and a host of other rules that are becoming common to protect the players and integrity of the events, in high-stakes chess matches. I don't know of any top players who disagree. Mad props to the winner of this game!! 🏆

[@imissmygirlbro8932]

@@Edd_LShorebro how hard is it for you to read the rules why are you trying to be the oddball rules are rules they are meant to be followed

[@inteluhdgaming1524]

4:22 there is also Bg5 after Ng4 attacking the Queen, f6 Bh4 defending f2 and your knight is awkwardly placed. Your engine dept is also incredibly low at times

[@tigrengbisakol8280]

This will now become a precedent whenever a high rated player loses to a lower rated opponent. Accusations of cheating can be done because the GOAT of chess started the trend. Kramnik already followed suit.

[@Virtue-Productions]

I think the problem is that Magnus gets this urge that he needs to justify every loss because he's the best.However, this is not the case at all.If someone plays well congratulate them and stop insinuating that they cheated somehow.

[@Tuh_qh90]

Not really. He loses every now and then. He doesn't complain

[@elevenchuck2446]

you know... Bobby Fischer complained a lot at tournaments. Cameras, lights, audience etc.

[@keysersoze9592]

There seems to be a theme now of magnus getting whooped and him not taking a loss like a man.

[@christopherheckman7957]

14:37 This is also beginning to sound like Fischer vs. Spassky in 1972, where Spassky claimed that the Soviets implanted a device in Fischer's chair.

[@KessaWitdaFro]

Magnus: Shows up 20 minutes late half dressed with a snack Also Magnus: Your watch is distracting me

[@arcaneben9171]

Imagine being the player who has literally mastered a mental game and still gets thrown away by a wrist watch

[@futureflash3479]

It's a sign that perhaps Magnus might start looking into retiring from chess...

[@MrVovansim]

Please let his next opponent roll in looking like Flava Flav, with a watch the size of his head around his neck.

[@nft3]

OP kid never heard about Fischer or Kasparov.

[@stianaandal1488]

He is strong mentally (probably the strongest) but when its possible to cheat its different

[@itsmefrancois6825]

Hi Levy, I just want to say thank you for your content. You are currently helping me through a hard time with a lot of anxiety. When I watch your videos I can actually relax and flew from the anxiety for the short time. It means a lot to me. Your kidness, happines and character spreads so much positivity which for sure not only me values a lot. Thank you

[@OrchestralButterflie]

I just wanna say I'm in a similar boat myself. Eric Rosen may be another streamer/tuber to look into when you've memorized all of Levy's videos. Such a chill, soothing vibe.

[@kevinperson2630]

W

[@nikkuchiluveri5539]

W

[@NoThanksblahhhh0751]

Anna Cramling is digital Prozac with chess content if you haven’t watched her channel maybe give it a look? Hopefully I didn’t misspell her last name, but yeah she’s very positive and has a contagious laugh.

[@parsphere6357]

google en passant

[@economicsjingle]

Magnus and Levy both misinterpreted the FIDE rulebook. Watches are listed as an example of electronic devices that are prohibited. Many watches are not electronic at all but mechanical--just springs and gears inside.

[@marouaneh175]

If you can cheat by putting something in your analog watch, you can cheat by putting that same thing in your shoe.

[@TSpoon823]

When I saw a breakdown of this game earlier I immediately thought "that chess spoke for itself" 😂 couldn't wait for Levy's commentary for sure.

[@CursalMusic]

L arbiter...

[@brycepeddicord6763]

Magnus taking his first steps toward Bobby Fisher levels of paranoia

[@American_Mike]

It would not be surprising to learn that local tournament organizers are MORE strict when it comes to anti-cheating than the big money tournaments.

[@B0K1T0]

13:37 You're skipping over the "not specifically approved by the arbiter" part, while the arbiter did approve it as far as I understood? So I don't see how the points under 11.3.2 are relevant in this case

[@Zwellop]

One more interesting thing that happened here was apparently Fedoseev leaving the playing hall with more than 1 hour on the clock and a completely lost position

[@meekaboi]

Against a 2298 rated FM. Important detail.

[@luisyfonsy711]

@@meekaboi still completly unacceptable

[@Joseph-nh6in]

@luisy Not unacceptable if it's an act of protest because he knows the FM is cheating.

[@ВикторФирсов-е9ф]

@@luisyfonsy711He probbaly was very frustrated and wanted to leave asap

[@Romans8-9]

@@Joseph-nh6in So anytime u lose to a lower rated player, you can just accuse the opponent of cheating without evidence. That's utterly stupid, sorry.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

13:48 To me that FITE handbook rule means smart watches not watches in general, as it says "smart glasses, pens, watches" like they are triplet of smart devices they are referring to, not just one. Because if it means watches in general that would mean pens in general are illegal, which is obviously nonsensical unless they think your plan is to st ab your opponent with it to cheat.

[@craigbyrne6186]

It also says gadgets, common sense tells you it has to be digital or electronic to be a gadget

[@JJ-zr6fu]

It means smart glasses Pens Watches You can hide a lot in a pen and watch

[@karimek10]

​@@JJ-zr6fuWell pens are absolutely allowed

[@philipchouliaras5879]

@@karimek10 No they are not. Players dont bring their own pens lol

[@chrisoliver4663]

If they meant smart watches they should specify smart watches, the wording however just says watches.

[@isaacbenrubi9613]

These chess scandals really are a pain in the ass. ...Too soon?

[@jmwolos6729]

“TAKE THE DAMN WATCH OFF”-Levy Rozman 15:45

[@robrick9361]

Alisher sounds like a bully at a private prep school.

[@russellcraft7269]

I think the arbiter's position may be that the adjective "smart" applies to all three nouns, not just the first, so that only smart pens and smart watches are banned. English is a funny language.

[@ulissesjacob8502]

but the first word was wallet so that doesnt make sense

[@luisyfonsy711]

​@@ulissesjacob8502smart wallets is a common item lol.

[@savin9100]

Levy never fails to clickbait me, any ways i love his channel

[@alanpierce2002]

Cheating scandal without the cheating... not sure how that works, but here I am watching so I guess it worked perfectly.

[@kiiturii]

it's not clickbait tho

[@exeddo3278]

@@kiituriiit is lol

[@goku445]

@@kiiturii totally is

[@LOLzum101]

​@@kiituriiit literally is

[@JamesArcherWeddings]

I love how chess players always use words like "throwing shade at Alisher's BRILLIANCY today" and things like "chess GENIUS". They never say skill, or talent, because they are so obsessed with the idea of chess being some kind of grand display of a person's intelligence when in reality it's the same as every other talent in life; you practice, memorize, get good, and you win. Just like playing darts or anything else.

[@ammonquitalig9077]

agree

[@Asowlif2]

you can't compare it to other sports... It would be just like saying math is a sport.

[@JamesArcherWeddings]

@@Asowlif2 tell me how you practice chess and how you practice a sport, and then explain me the difference in the process.

[@Asowlif2]

I mean I practice chess by playing it a lot, reading books about theories. I practice cooking by cooking a lot and reading cooking books. I practice maths by doing a lot of maths questions and by reading the theories. and the same is to be said for sport.@@JamesArcherWeddings

[@JamesArcherWeddings]

@@Asowlif2 so we agree. Everyone's happy

[@Justfun-kh4kn]

Magnus's opponent plays the watch gambit!

[@DoomSpellSkadi]

Smart glasses, pen and watches. It can mean "Smart glasses, (Smart) pen and (Smart) watches". So "All watches is baned" is debatable.

[@KesshinOfficial]

this is scary remember bobby fischer? the man who got so paranoid he went insane? i hope magnus is not going the same rabbit hole

[@kukuc96]

I don't know what list you pulled up, but the FIDE website says Anton Smirnov is rated 2586 in classical (and Australian). Which would make him 2 points higher than Temur Kuybokarov. So your memory was on point. Until the end of the game anyways. I imagine he gained more than 2 points for winning.

[@devOsiris]

Being a Kazakh, I am very glad that Alisher showed such a level of play and our country is developing in terms of chess. I will root for my country. Thank you Levy! 🇰🇿

[@AbelShields]

Magnus literally said he wasn't accusing him of cheating

[@potatopromise]

yeah, i think people are overreacting. He said why wasnt the rules followed and people are saying he is accsuing.

[@Thatsweat]

Levy never fails to squeeze water from a stone

[@10011110011]

Why not protest before starting the game? Dontnplay or something?

[@AbelShields]

​@@10011110011I think Magnus did ask the arbiter during the game, I assume that's what his tweet meant, the arbiter allowed it.

[@potatopromise]

@@10011110011 he did tweet this “I did ask an arbiter during the game whether watches were allowed, and he clarified that smartwatches were banned, but not analog watches. This seems to be against FIDE rules for events of this stature”

[@brian6319]

Without metal detectors or delay it's actually so easy to cheat. Hide a receiver anywhere and get moves transmitted by someone nearby.

[@brantnuttall]

15:52 no it isn't. the handbook says that watches are absolutely fine; if they're analogue, which it was.

[@daexion]

Magnus is simply making excuses as to why he lost and is really just insulting his opponent with a back-handed compliment. "You played an excellent game, but I lost because I was distracted by your watch".

[@88Cardey]

The arbiter is entirely at fault here, I don't think anyone thinks Alisher cheated but if anyone does think that, it's the arbiters fault. Why let something as simple as a watch cause such controversy? I think most people are in agreement anti cheating measures are a good thing and being lax about them at the top level in particular, is terrible for the game.

[@bzeljn]

"if he allowed to wear a watch?" "it is not a digital watch so yes he is" magnus then proceeds to lose

[@freefall9832]

Definitely cheating again. Magnus doesn't say vibrating watch by accident.

[@valiantwarrior1988]

Magnus did not, and I mean he absolutely didn't say Alisher cheated. It was a well played game by him, just a foul one for Magnus because as you may imagine a guy who cheated against him would make him feel worried of playing any more potential cheaters. Yes, playing against stockfish feels like being mercilessly pressed by all sides, I've played cheaters at 2200 elo so I know how terrible it feels.

[@freefall9832]

@valiantwarrior1988 Magnus brought up the topic of cheating after the match. He knows he was cheated against, and we should believe he knows if he's been cheated against.

[@benson21]

@@bzeljn but the handbook clearly says a watch is not allowed so the arbiter allowing it is the reason he was at fault mate

[@disabledchatzen5276]

All magnus has said is "I get very uncomfortable and it fucks with my head in big ways when I feel like I am playing someone who could be cheating. Hans has a history of it. The watch fucked with my head. I'm not accusing him, he played a great game. I'm just saying it fucked with my head, get your shit together and get your security right"

[@nakiyembaflorence7699]

Magnus gets absolutely crushed Finds excuses😂

[@ColinTimmins]

I agree, no watches and I would even introduce metal scanning for events that are important.

[@peeriuga5517]

Levy Never fails to include magnus in his video

[@xJayhawkFANx]

I mean Magnus videos perform the best so it makes sense

[@fatshibaballs]

he's literally the one who acknowledged the possibility of cheating. of course hes relevant.

[@AverageCommenterOnYT]

SpaceUK in chess 💀

[@uggmufpendrak8088]

Such a niche gaming reference, I love it

[@jukezy46]

:o hello fellow gd player

[@haikofthegods]

Completely savage if alisher gifts his watch to Magnus

[@pheasantphilms3439]

Future games of chess will be played naked in SCIFs.

[@robiulahmed]

At 26:05, Temur should've gone for a Greek gift. I say that as perennial blunderer.

[@MistaOppritunity]

My question is, What is the difference between someone potentially having a cheating device in their watch that they are wearing on the wrist, and having a cheating device hidden on their person? Feels to me like if someone wanted to cheat, banning the watch wouldn't really hinder that at all.

[@valiantwarrior1988]

As it is easier to cheat with a watch I suppose, other methodology is hard to pull off

[@dwightPhoenix]

Very good point man

[@dwightPhoenix]

​@@valiantwarrior1988why is it easier?

[@valiantwarrior1988]

@@dwightPhoenix watches are more readily available and quite a common thing, anal bears on the other hand do tell me where to find them. This case however is different, as he didn't cheat but it was distracting for Magnus since wearing a watch is against the rules and when he told arbiter about it the arbiter didn't act on it which must've annoyed Magnus since he has ego

[@MistaOppritunity]

watches might be readily available, but they aren't created for the purpose of cheating at chess. The person cheating would still need to create a cheating device and hide it somewhere regardless, whether it was the watch or someplace else.@@valiantwarrior1988

[@elijaharsenault]

The moment I saw Magnus’s tweet I would’ve bet my life savings this would be the next levy video. Turns out my money is safe

[@Feedmagoo92]

Doesn't the handbook say "not specifically approved by the arbiter". - Magnus brought it up to the Arbiter, who said it was ok. Surely that means it's allowed because the Arbiter has approved it?

[@ulissesjacob8502]

It says eletronic not a watch

[@johnstahl3256]

​@@ulissesjacob8502 Nah the handbook Levy shows in this video details watches as not being allowed, without implying that they must be electronic to be disallowed.

[@YourLocalNihilist]

​@@johnstahl3256yeah because every watch in chess games can whisper the best move for any possible position 👻👻

[@valiantwarrior1988]

its not and the arbiter is at fault, the organization is nothing strict

[@7uc4s]

10:52 "slide my bishop back, play knight d6, and slowly execute your longest *bhwgçuys* "

[@ta6847]

Chess pro tip: trick Magnus into thinking you might be cheating and he'll self-destruct.

[@TheMosayat]

That last checkmate was freakin unbelievable 😂 I will never ever see the solution to a puzzle like that

[@michaeldean6380]

So every time magnus gets embarrassed in competition the opponent is cheating. Got it.

[@fryderyksadocha8044]

I mean, I could see someone on youtube make a watch that looked like analog, where the "hour arrow" would point at a rank and the "minute arrow" would point at the file. This would be used to either show the position of a piece that would be best to move, or to show a position where some kind of piece must move to. So while I believe there wasn't any cheating, it certainly is possible that the watch which would look like analog could potentially help to choose best moves

[@itsasecret2298]

A subtle vibrating mechanism would be a lot less conspicuous than the hands on the watch jumping around and the player having to constantly look at it.

[@YourLocalNihilist]

Magnus meat riders are next level conspiracy theorists

[@fryderyksadocha8044]

@@YourLocalNihilist I just say that it was a technical possibility. However as I said, no one would dare to cheat against Magnus after that big scandal with Hans.

[@fryderyksadocha8044]

@@itsasecret2298 true, true. You could also combine two mechanisms, the vibrations would tell you which piece to move and the arrows to which square that piece is going, or viceversa

[@YourLocalNihilist]

@@fryderyksadocha8044 "no one would dare cheat against Magnus", Magnus almost got sued after that scandal, what are you on 💀

[@Shreddyfilmzz]

This is the equivalent to blowing an airhorn before a golf swing. It throws people off their game.

[@siddharthannandhakumar6187]

"Sorry for the light mode"!! Wow Levy you know the audience very well !! I'm watching the video in dark before going to sleep and that slide was indeed too bright. Brilliant!! Youtubing

[@ayoxX]

The fact it's Already one year since the scandal is astonishing 😂

[@roastghost901]

As a fellow human being (allegedly), I get it. Other people not following established rules that you're used to can put you on tilt pretty easily, and Magnus was right to acknowledge it has own failing. It is weird that the "no watches" rule isn't being enforced in this post-Hans era though. Just ask the guy to put it in his pocket.

[@simpleneeds2582]

gotta admit, simply watching GM games through game recaps has slightly made me better.. Not that i still dont blunder my queen on the 20th move but hey progress

[@ChampionCynthia493]

easy solution: win in 19 moves :D

[@simpleneeds2582]

@@ChampionCynthia493 *gasps* you just solved chess also quite frustated how unhelpful all the other comments are.. like just one same joke repeated over and over and filled with bots :(

[@Moumou727]

There are plenty of "Analog watches" (metal needles) with built-in bluetooth connectivity. Fun fact: Bluetooth name is after a Viking warrior 😊

[@FishNoChips]

You can get rings and watches that doesn't look smart with vibrators in them. This is like where Counter-Strike tournaments they had no cheaters because 1. no-one would cheat in front of a crowd. and 2. they were allowed to bring their own USB mouse and keyboard which is abysmal. Its idiotic anticheat measurments

[@barryweaver8833]

If you beat Magnus then you must be cheating, but he doesn't want to be in big big trouble LOL.

[@razinmuntasir777]

What i don't understand is people like Hikaru, Fabiano,Ian , ding , Anish ,Alireza struggle to play n win against magnus and I don't understand how Magnus manages to lose against people 300 points lower than him.

[@HereCharlieRules]

Everybody has a bad day

[@TrueMr.Quinn1]

Because he has experience with those said players, he knows more or less how they play and operate. As opposed to a lot of these younger people who he is playing for the first time or just started playing them for a 2nd or third time

[@andymenke]

Possibly a lack of respect for his opponent from Magnus?

[@DrakoLykoi]

Magnus isn't the only player struggling with 2500s. The top pool playing the same opponents become overrated in part they begin to become weaker when not playing in open tournaments.

[@titan2540]

dont know much about chess, but id imagine magnus plays ~2800 players less frequently than he does ~2500 players, so he's probably a lot more likely to underestimate / underprep against players from the latter group.

[@EneldoSancocho]

I think it wouldn't be hard to design a device to wear inside a shoe that was connected to an engine and gave the user the engine move as a sequence of "tics" given that the position could be sent to the engine somehow. I'm sure if there were a competition for cheating devices we would see some crazy stuff

[@parsphere6357]

lol

[@anythingpeteives]

The problem with this idea is the 'somehow' that you mention. How do you let the device know the position?

[@EneldoSancocho]

@@anythingpeteives leave me alone

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

@@anythingpeteivesleave me alone

[@CheeseburgerEnjoyer]

@@anythingpeteivesleave me alone

[@gertmolder791]

Basicly the organizers were running on the first part of the regulation and probably didnt notice the anti cheating regs mentioned watches as a example since the first rule said it banned smart watches and the arbiter actually quoted that rather than the anti cheating regs. Its abit sad that magnus got tilted and played badly and his opponent actually played well enough to crush him and this is somewhat ruining this, cause defeating the best chess player in the world as a relativly new gm is a massive deal especially in classical chess.

[@RomperRoomer]

Much like when I am playing in a pool tournament. if people are constantly walking behind me when i am shooting or the music is too loud so everyone has to yell to talk it completely tilts a guy.

[@Shrey1g]

Why bring up the anti-cheat measures only after your losses, you can bring them up after the first game of the tournament.

[@FenceThis]

because it was in this game his opponent wore a wrist watch

[@Updog89]

Why not both?

[@andymenke]

Sounds like he brought it up before the game started

[@Shrey1g]

magnus played a match vs hikaru, where hikaru wore a watch??? how about that Rtard?@@FenceThis

[@johnathanroth6205]

Magnus Loses: My opponent played a great game Everyone watching: OH SHIT HE CALLED HIM OUT FOR CHEATING

[@TuhTuhTool]

''My opponent played a great game THOUGH IT LOOKED FREAKIN' SUSPICIOUSLY''. You forgot to add the latter, which is a big implication.

[@distantant]

​@@TuhTuhTool Except he never said anything like that to accuse his opponent here. Try again.

[@creocrimson836]

Magnus always makes excuses whether it be food poisoning or cheating. When he loses against someone significantly worse it's a pretty good pattern Magnus will make an excuse.

[@a.r.9822]

I never thought flexing a diamond watch against magnus would be super effective against him during a game.

[@jenserikbech]

"An analog watch"?? I went into a tournament and you had to shot down your phone and place it on the table. "suddenly a wife called her spouse and he was doomed to loose his game. ", complete un-necessary "! on the other hand we don't want CIA to monitor chess games.

[@Sensei_Drew]

Magnus noticed a rule was being broken and was distracted by the arbitrator ignoring the broken rule. He just "wrapped up" a major cheating scandal, who can blame him for thinking about such a situation instead of the game? Tournament moderators seem to need more training so everyone is on the same page across the board.

[@stianaandal1488]

Exactly

[@Deciduoustrees]

because he only seems concerned about cheating when he loses to a sub-2700 level opponent

[@lancedepedro5530]

@@Deciduoustreeswhat are you talking about? He already had such concerns before he even lost

[@NewesSkiller]

@Deciduoustrees Except he never claimed the guy was cheating. Just distracted by the lack of upholding the rules.

[@Deciduoustrees]

@@NewesSkiller read between the lines. Magnus is a bully. he knows he can't accuse him of cheating, but he knows that by making a public excuse for losing, he'll dredge up all the old bs. besides, he only says stuff like this when he LOSES

[@clayotissmith158]

I don't think anyone's questioning magnus's abilities, but I think we should all recognize that he's passed his prime and on his way down, but there's a gap in this generation where no one else is yet good enough to surpass him. He also doesn't seem like the best loser, but then again he so rarely loses that you can barely blame him.

[@tradersblankers2931]

TL;DW: No, they didn't cheat, but magnus couldn't focus because his opponent was wearing a watch which is against FIDE rules.

[@KreativMusic1]

ive played in a few tournaments and can understand exactly why the watch would be distracting. fide needs to keep better track of cheating regulations, and make sure watches and smartphones are not allowed in the hall at all. even online, it makes it extremely hard to play when I suspect my opponent of cheating ( which happens a lot online unfortunately ) even in my small tournaments no phones or watches are allowed, cant believe fide allows it.

[@mikente1976]

If watches aren’t allowed in FIDE rules, wouldn’t the opponent GM be accustomed to not wearing watches? Feels odd that the opponent would wear a watch and that it’s enough to make Magnus “lose it”.

[@humanrightsadvocate]

There should be ABSOLUTELY no devices allowed, regardless of their nature. It is trivial to insert a vibrating mechanism inside a mechanical watch that will alert the user when the opponent made a suboptimal move.