New Company, AMAZING Ideas - TRYX Luca L70 & Panorama

[@HardwareCanucks]

To address some concerns that have been brought up. We were very clear this is a Showcase (0:45, no "review" in title, no thermals, none of our usual in-depth testing, etc.), and not a review of the case since it is Sponsored. Less than 3 minutes of an ~11 minute was dedicated to a few features we saw within the LUCA upon unboxing. If anyone thinks that's a review, well...ok. TRYX communicated two dates with us: one which was for a hands-on similar to what was shown at Computex in order to align with AIO availability and the other which was a full reviews embargo for the LUCA to align with its availability on Sept 19th. I'm pretty sure others were given the same but perhaps not since comms with TRYX has been...interesting to say the least. As a matter of fact, since this videowas published the September 19th date has been clearly visible within the Buy it Now links. EDIT: Initially we didn't understand where certain comments were coming from but now we do. It seems samples that GN received did not align with our initial experience with the LUCA. Completely missed their video until someone pointed it out. To add some additional clarity, had any significant or numerous issues been encountered during our unboxing or subsequent time with the items, internal policy dictates that we refuse to run ads or continue with the sponsorship. Our case had some minor shipping damage but otherwise we didn't encounter any egregious issues with it. Meanwhile the AIO was perfectly fine other than the commentary we had with the software.

[@simoSLJ89]

Of course, you are legally correct. What I don't understand is that you should be an enthusiast, right? As an enthusiast, how can you work with a case, see that it's bad, and agree to highlight only the positive sides? Don't you care about your viewers anymore? Subs will lose trust, and stop watching your other reviews, cause they know you can be easily bought. Spoiler alert - look at the views - it's already happening. Sad.

[@odysseyYT647]

This is why tech channels who highly value their reputation and ethics would never agree to do a long sponsorship / overview of a product from a brand new company in the market, without at bare minimum doing their own in-depth testing and internal review before agreeing to that sponsorship, and if the product's manufacturer isn't allowing that reject the sponsorship. This is why people are losing respect for Hardware Canucks because it's clear you don't put the same level of care into your decisions and choices as others do, if you did this video never would have happened.

[@HammerLeeAcc]

The description you wrote for this video mention that the case is a review unit. "Review unit provided free of charge by TRYX. This video is sponsored by TRYX. As per Hardware Canucks guidelines, no review direction was received from manufacturer. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases."

[@tsunderekermit]

lol, lmao even

[@odysseyYT647]

@@HammerLeeAcc Good catch, they didn't even put much care or thought into this pinned comment / response either as they could have easily caught that and how contradictory it would be to their response of "it ain't a review! Your fault if you thought it was". Hardware Canucks has gone downhill.

[@RoastyToasty]

nice to know this channel can be bought and is not to be trusted

[@b3thamphetamine]

Interesting that the company itself is owning up to this disaster of a case, but HWC keeps doubling down and saying we're the ones with a problem lmao

[@ffnbbq]

Tryx have announced they are postponing the US launch of the L70 and will be taking on GN's criticisms to see how they can improve the case.

[@b3thamphetamine]

Interesting that the company itself is owning up to this disaster of a case, but HWC keeps doubling down and saying we're the ones with a problem lmao

[@wozzablog]

​@@b3thamphetamineanother channel is doubling down on having no problems, and their initial video didn't show any of the problems - SSD cage door cabling being ass backwards, IO cables length, cable clearance in the IO shield area. Just no video of attempts to use those parts. One of their commenters even said the amount of flex looked Sus through the video and they are still doubling down. Like, man, techtubers really falling off hard lately

[@MattressFinancialLmtd]

These reviews of AIOs with screens need to also include how heavily they use the CPU to render the image on the AIO itself. Since they aren't using an HDMI/eDP for display out, these AIOs tend to render the video on the CPU. i.e. the NZXT Kraken Zs can use 10%-15% of a 5800X just to render a 2D video on the screen. You literally end up with worse performance from using a certain CPU cooler.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's why its something we're going to be including in all AIO reviews going forward. And this isn't a review...since the software when we tested it was beta and the products were pre-production. This is more of an overview.

[@linlinshi922]

The beauty of this cooler is its onboard PCB with 2GB RAM and 8GB ROM, which runs the LED content with almost zero impact on CPU performance.

[@MattressFinancialLmtd]

@@HardwareCanucks yeah fair enough.

[@MattressFinancialLmtd]

@@linlinshi922 Do you have a link to those specs? It's more about the on-board processor than the on-board RAM and storage.

[@MattressFinancialLmtd]

@@linlinshi922 Still waiting for that spec list.

[@Alfadrottning86]

my non native english brain would have pronounced it "tricks" instead of "trikes"

[@johngamble5270]

Heck, with my native English speaking brain I'd pronounce it "tricks" too.

[@Skobeloff...]

trash seems more fitting

[@simoSLJ89]

Sad. You used to make good reviews, now they're all almost ads. And viewers know..less than 30k views in a week. HWC, you can do better.

[@HardwareCanucks]

To be fair, we highlight this as a showcase, not a review in the first 45 seconds of the video. We were specifically told to only highlight features that were shown in hands-on content during Computex, whereas full reviews could be posted at a later date. 3 minutes of an 11 minute video is dedicated to the case.

[@simoSLJ89]

@@HardwareCanucks Of course, you are legally correct. What I don't understand is that you should be an enthusiast, right? As an enthusiast, how can you work with a case, see that it's bad, and agree to highlight only the positive sides? Don't you care about your viewers anymore? Subs will lose trust, and stop watching your other reviews, cause they know you can be easily bought. Spoiler alert - look at the views - it's already happening. Sad.

[@StrikeWarlock]

@@simoSLJ89 Sad thing is, I've seen this kind of response before. This was pretty much what LTT kept using as an assurance to their viewers until they sold out, now for them, it's just the norm. Case in point, their Snapdragon X Elite "review".

[@HardwareCanucks]

Can't speak to what GN experienced other than to say their video runs contrary to most of our experience with the two retail units we have on hand. It could very well be there's some QA issues at TRYX that affect certain batches...or maybe its something else. Its impossible to know.

[@HardwareCanucks]

This feels like a situation where our experience is very different from theirs. Simple as that. We would NEVER take a sponsorship for a product we thought was trash. Ever. I think its also important to mention that if our first hands on with the case had so many issues, the entire sponsored video would have been thrown out. A situation like that has happened numerous times (a case from MSI was the latest example of this) and we've pumped the brakes. Every. Time. Our experience thus far (full review is still ongoing) is closer to Stuart's than GN's: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqeWlpSAf8uMjNk

[@EhNothing]

After hearing GN's review of this case, yall should feel bad for this sponsored nonsense.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Clarifications for you: A) The retail samples we received didn't have such egregious issues. One had some minor damage from shipping but that was it. Our policy dictates we DO NOT run ad spots or sponsored content for items that don't fit our quality criteria. Had we run into any of the larger issues GN found, the Sponsored content would have been cancelled. B) We were careful to have full transparency and mention the video was a showcase and didn't frame it as a review. A review would have had full thermal testing, etc. C) We did a quick overview of some case items we missed at Computex tacked onto a video largely covering the AIO, an item we thought was pretty unique. D) If we had reviewed it, the stated embargo date of September 19 would have been adhered to but due to staff vacations, the review was delayed until later this month Hope that helps!

[@MKR3238]

The description still says "review unit provided by(...)" 😬 maybe "product sample" would be clearer and prevent confusion

[@aarrodri]

Don't bother..they will die on this hill.. along with subscriptions. These guys are mainly corporate puppets..

[@NathanialSCoughtry]

@@HardwareCanucks Damn you guys just resort to being sassy when called out lol

[@Skobeloff...]

@@NathanialSCoughtry The video is a showcase, not a review. Why wouldn't they be "sassy" when faced with a deluge of bs from rabid, ignorant tweens? It would have been interesting to see their actual review of this case, prior to GN destroying it. Now there is no way to know how they would have legitimately reviewed this case, no doubt plenty of other channels reviewed it though...

[@Violet-ui]

You guys might want to say more clearly in the intro whether a video is a review, an ad or whatever This seems like a paid ad to me. If someone mistakenly takes this as a review, well you understandably look like shills to them

[@Skobeloff...]

Possibly a fair point, and categorised titles are something that would make youtube videos more transparent. But it soon becomes obvious that this video is just a showcase.

[@b3thamphetamine]

They look like shills anyway for posting sponsored content of a product they haven't reviewed.

[@Skobeloff...]

@@b3thamphetamine Welcome to youtube, how else did you think this platform worked?

[@missingsatyr]

0:27 They put Dmitry in a pc you guys, can't have shit in Canada 😮‍💨

[@YeetusIndustrius]

This is an ad

[@zakkeith1508]

Buying this aio to put the resident evil licker video they did for the resident evil movie that made it look 3D

[@TTahtinen]

Funny how shit that case really is. Jay made indepth review and that case just broke down. Dont get this shit from tryx. Wonder how mutch money they paid to get this review...

[@gokeefe]

> Traditional layout with the PSU at the bottom 🤨

[@westerling9088]

it's kind of traditional, if you were born after 2000

[@kUdtiHaEX]

HC: marketing, marketing and some more marketing Steve: Case is train-wreck, opens video with case literally falling apart HC you are playing with fire of losing our trust.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Did you watch the video? Our position is also very clear: our cases absolutely didn't exhibit the issues Steve describes. Had they, we would have never featured them in paid content in any way. In addition, they are a 3 minute mention in a video focused on the AIO's. This is not a review, nor was it framed as such.

[@theoutlawprime]

@@HardwareCanucks I watched your video. Sponsored content is marketing. Hence op is accurate in calling it marketing. What would you call it?

[@kUdtiHaEX]

​@@HardwareCanucks Yes, I did, and it was obvious to me what kind of video it was. Instead of trying to put this on me, maybe you should ask yourself why are you seeing such a big of an outcry in the comment section of this video now? Perhaps it actually has something to do with you and your work, not me / us. I do not want to sound like just another unreasonable guy. I know how money is made in business and how influencers are used these days. You are not in this for glory, you are in for the money. However, during all these years you also accumulated a certain amount of trust that people put into what you are saying, so you are influencing their decision to a certain degree. Trust is difficult to earn, but easy to lose. Now, the reason why me and others here are commenting on this video is to try to turn your attention to what your job / responsibility is at the end of the day. And you dropped the ball, not just with this one, but with other videos as well. I watched all your content until some point last year, when it became clear that your goals / values have changed. So, yes, I actually watched it, and it was a very nicely executed marketing video which you got to do a few days before GN, and that alone says a lot. We will see how it will go with the "real" review, but my expectations are really low now.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's understood. However, your accusation is the case is a train wreck and we are wrong for taking sponsorship money to feature it in a video. Had the case been trash, your point would be completely valid. However, the two cases we have in hand aren't "trash" whatsoever and they don't exhibit most of the issues GN highlighted. As such, we didn't have hesitation when it came to including some mention of them in a video that's largely focused on the AIO's features.

[@upforellie]

@@HardwareCanucks The timing of everything just feels sussy-wussy. Combined with the special embargo imposed on GN, surely you understand why we're all saying stuff right now.

[@WisteriaBerlitz]

Perfect AIO for the Montech King 95

[@ahmadyutube-e9w]

hows the hyte y70

[@Tinfoilist]

This channel has turned into a fancy version of TV Shop (if you're European, you know). Very sad. Cinematography is top notch as always but this is certainly not what I subscribed to. I'll be taking my viewing elsewhere from here. Good luck in your future endeavors.

[@lamikal2515]

Next : An AIO with a top cover that brew coffee. All for the low low price of $499.

[@patrickbrault8411]

And that can make your toasts too...

[@zaldvalencia]

Bro they made next level AIO. Kudos to those companies who innovate and never settle for what only sells on the market. Shame on you NZXT for your kraken with tiny updates on your resolutions

[@Brunnen_Gee]

They need to sell the screen as a separate item, not attached to an AIO. I'd consider buying it then, I'm not paying anywhere near that much for a cooler.

[@Pratalax]

Much more interested in the case itself than the curvy pump screen thing, cool as that is, but the case just looks so damn cool. Really seems like a luxury product, and with a really fresh, bold and functional aesthetic going with it to boot!

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah the case feels fresh for sure. Not a regular dual chamber design and I don’t mind having the PSU as part of the main chamber. -D.

[@EhNothing]

The case is absolute garbage. Go watch Gamers Nexus review before buying.

[@unclerubo]

Case is interesting but I really hate the AIO. It represents everything that is wrong with computer component trends nowadays: Looks over performance, software reliance... It's just bad.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Luckily there are plenty of other options out there. ;) There's a market for this and they're serving that market.

[@unclerubo]

@@HardwareCanucks I'm just afraid this sells well enough that it compels other companies to move into this kind of higher margin product. Everyone else looking for a well-rounded product will be SOL. That's the GPU market today sadly...

[@randalllawkin]

​@@uncleruboI don't think so arctic has options

[@unclerubo]

@@randalllawkin yes, and my main pc is cooled by a thermalright peerless assassin. I just don't want the market to be swayed in the direction of bad value.

[@BeccaVinesz]

I donʼt see the problem, are you saying that a good PC canʼt handle that. RGB, cooler screen, customization is what everyone is looking for when making a mid to high-end PC, itʼs about looks & performance not just 1 or the other.

[@tripdeezy]

Very aesthetic-focused, but still really interesting. This company will be a decent choice for my next build.

[@tryxglobal]

Thank you for considering us for your next build!

[@patmli007]

Can you please tell me what song you used on 3:45?

[@sinnermac6338]

build quality from what ive seen on the Luca isnt very good, GN hammered it, the panorama aio looks nice though.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

5:37 No, that does not show up well on camera at all. I don't know if it was just your camera settings or something you did in post, but those "inky blacks" are nowhere near black in the final video.

[@LinusBerglund]

Where can i fond more info on the air version with 2 200mm fans?

[@HardwareCanucks]

It will be launched in a few weeks / months.

[@Daestos]

​@@HardwareCanucks And do you have any info on the launch date for the original?

[@MimosaSTG]

You lost a long time subscriber. I'm tired of showing support for shills.

[@HardwareCanucks]

How are we "shilling" when we clearly said it was a showcase and 8 minutes of the 11 minute video was dedicated to showcasing the AIO's capabilities? We weren't able to publish a review of the case until yesterday anyways and we very rarely, if ever publish on NDA lift since we always want more time with retail samples. So....

[@aarrodri]

Same here. Just unsubscribed. Good luck to you guys but not worth out time.

[@Skobeloff...]

If consumers keep demanding, and buying gimmicky, trashy, overpriced cases, they cannot complain when they get them. You all keep buying glass sided, rgb laden, mechanically ridiculous cases.

[@HardwareCanucks]

There's nothing wrong with people who prefer a certain style of case though. Its their personal preference. :)

[@Skobeloff...]

@@HardwareCanucks Yes, rubbish is a preference. I would rather have a well built, well performing case, but they are not shiny enough for trashtubers to want to promote to zombie consumerists. Looking forward to seeing your hastily remade review of this controversial case...

[@MrScortch]

So many combos people could on that thang!

[@Letsplayminecraft1]

Been waiting for this new case to be reviewed ❤❤

[@HardwareCanucks]

Review is coming soon. This is more of an overview.

[@wozzablog]

GN have a full review up without it being a paid informercial 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@1fires1]

All jokes aside i think the clone looks better.

[@krazyfrog]

Noticed a bit of screen tearing in some of the animations such as at 9:16 but aside from that the software looks really polished, something you cannot say for a lot of the Chinese products out there like Thermalright.

[@tryxglobal]

Thank you! We have spent a lot of time and resources on the TRYX KANALI software to make it intuitive and reliable (and continuously updating and improving things every month) as we know that software is a big pain point for many consumers and PC builders

[@Dawelio]

@@tryxglobal Love to see this direct brand integration with the community in the comments and a good response as well. Kudos Tryx!

[@Dawelio]

Not sure what products from Thermalright that you're referring to here, considering that they mostly make air coolers... which doesn't really need software, like at all, in all fairness.

[@krazyfrog]

@@Dawelio They have launched a million AIO models in the past year alone with screens. They also have air coolers with displays now.

[@SGTSAS]

I would like to know what is the MAX THICKNESS of radiators all maxed out. Some time ago in another life then you guys used to say that. Yes I know most normal now is 30/45mm but me an old fossil…. Then I would like to get in 60mm rads but BETTER for nostalgia the 80mm MONSTA radiator with push pull config.

[@R3TR0J4N]

Oh shit i just saw the case previewed in taiwan. This a cool Deep dive 360* hands on review.

[@Lemmiou]

Comming back to this after the GN review and all I have to say is shame on you. This review is just trash since this case is a hot pile of shit plus getting sponsored for a case review just feels like a conflict of interest.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Where exactly did we say it was a review? We call it a hands on showcase (NOT a review) in the first 45 seconds of the video. The vast majority of the video is pertaining to the AIO wherein a full review of the case couldn't be posted before September 19th, which we couldn't do because of staff holidays.

[@simoSLJ89]

@@HardwareCanucks Of course, you are legally correct. What I don't understand is that you should be an enthusiast, right? As an enthusiast, how can you work with a case, see that it's bad, and agree to highlight only the positive sides? Don't you care about your viewers anymore? Subs will lose trust, and stop watching your other reviews, cause they know you can be easily bought. Spoiler alert - look at the views - it's already happening. Sad.

[@Skobeloff...]

They all receive this case for free = they are all sponsored, whether they admit it, or not. A channel can only claim to be objective, if they purchase the items themselves, and even then, they be biased towards, or against the brand, or product.

[@peteryoung6794]

​ @HardwareCanucks Your description literally lists this as a review unit?

[@Skobeloff...]

@@peteryoung6794 If you are somehow capable of reading the description, why aren't you capable of watching the video? There is a very big difference between critiquing, and lynching.

[@shredmajor700]

Man I just want higher performance at a more affordable price.

[@Kumoiwa]

Thermalright is destroying the market there

[@waskus]

I love that cooler but 650$ for an AIO.

[@HardwareCanucks]

HOW MUCH? The 240mm version is $300...which is admittedly expensive but puts it up there with the new Corsair and NZXT coolers.

[@linlinshi922]

the highest spec one is $349.99

[@thefortvenger973]

What wired headphones or headset do you recommend under 300 dollars

[@TheTastefulThickness]

Monoprice M1060 planar open-back is really good. But it needs some good power. Headphones are just part of an audio setup. I used to use it with an A90 amp ($500) and a $200 DAC...so thats a thousand dollar setup all in. If you don't want a bunch of gear look for a good set of IEM's instead.

[@bloomth]

Wondering if its pronounced like 'Tricks'

[@HardwareCanucks]

We asked how to pronounce the brand during Computex, as to not be confused 😆 -D.

[@bloomth]

@@HardwareCanucks Good call! Excellent review per usual.

[@HardwareCanucks]

🙏

[@metacube9913]

Lmao the case is complete garbage, hope the pay was worth making your channel somehow even worse

[@labmixz.]

beautiful case, hope they come out with a mid-tower...

[@jeremypettibone3242]

$300 USD for a 240 AIO... pass.

[@David-he7nw]

Very nice, but not 350 usd nice....

[@Brunnen_Gee]

My feelings when PSU at the bottom is "traditional".

[@BlueManatee]

I like the case wish it came in micro atx or small mid tower. Definitely would get it

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yeah same. Anything mid to SFF is super exciting right now. Full towers have peaked. -D.

[@TechTalkTobi]

and another "like" O11 build ?! ... good lord. 😅

[@brokawmike]

Looka D. Supply

[@crafti2.027]

-1 subscriber, check Gamers Nexus review, this case sucks

[@HardwareCanucks]

Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. This video is simply an overview of the AIO and only 3 minutes fleshing out some of the case's features we first saw at Computex. A full review will be posted at a later date since we didn't have a chance to complete it before the September 19th NDA.

[@GG-wi7ev]

This is the reason you don't promote products you haven't reviewed. The channel is full of promotional videos.The only reason to follow this channel is Mike!!!

[@aarrodri]

​@@HardwareCanucks "maybe it does or does not, but that fat check we got is worth out integrity"

[@Skobeloff...]

@@GG-wi7ev Mike is the reason why I unsubscribed from this channel. You should just stick with all of Linus's inane channels.

[@GG-wi7ev]

@@Skobeloff... but why??

[@brbk4498]

Nice case too big for me. I’ll wait for a compact mid tower atx

[@princezen123]

Impressive and innovative!

[@Oneiric_Benevolence]

You should be ashamed. This is bribery. And your responses in the comments are ignorant, deflective and attempts of gaslighting.

[@HardwareCanucks]

No it isn't. Our cases absolutely didn't exhibit the issues Steve describes. Had they, we would have never featured them in any way. Even in a video that was focused on their AIO, which is what we did.

[@aarrodri]

​@@HardwareCanucks can. You disclose how much you guys got.laid by the company for this "review" ?

[@Skobeloff...]

@@aarrodri Where is it suggested that they got laid by the company for this video?

[@masonwoods4500]

@@Skobeloff... the way they glaze this terrible company even after they came out and said their product has problems but I guess you cant use the 1% of your brain (common sense) to see that

[@Skobeloff...]

@@masonwoods4500 You can't even pay enough attention to realise that all I did was make a joke out of your typo. If you were not such a silly child, you would be able to realise that this is not a product review, it is a showcase of the case's features. The case is trash, so is the channel, yet compared to you, they are both golden.

[@Kumoiwa]

Will they come in white? I'm an air cooler guy but HOLY this looks cool 🔥

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yup, both the case and the AIO are available in two colors (black or white). -D.

[@Kumoiwa]

@@HardwareCanucks OOF tempting!!!

[@itsdeonlol]

Nice case!!!

[@R23_]

but TRYX are for kids

[@simoSLJ89]

On a second thought, catch it, catch it with your teeth :D

[@mokhtariabdelmadjid2977]

amazing video like always Dmitri is the best in cases review, but you didn't mention anything about pricing !

[@HardwareCanucks]

We don't have it yet. Plus, this is more of an overview. Stay tuned for the review when we know more about the pricing and we get a retail sample. :)

[@viencarlodiego8842]

Is this compatible with corsair shift psu?

[@upforellie]

This case has bigger problems than PSU compatibility

[@RafitoOoO]

The case looks amazing but the feet are so ugly.

[@anonimuso]

The AIO screen is pretty cool, but that price is a no-go. Even with the customizations, it's still not super functional (at least not enough to justify the price).

[@88Opportunist]

Ever since that C-word struck it's impossible to look at things like this and consider them cool any more. All I see is stuff that probably costs 5000 USD and I therefore will never have so what's the point of any of it

[@B2MAI]

why is so limted to US Stores! I want to buy this I'm from saudi arabia TRYX Luca L70

[@HardwareCanucks]

They're just rolling out now.

[@tryxglobal]

Feel free to stay tuned on our social media and we will be updating release dates for specific regions!

[@B2MAI]

@@tryxglobal Thank you for the reply! I’m really excited to get the TRYX Luca L70. I’ll keep an eye on your social media for updates on availability in Saudi Arabia. Keep up the great work with these amazing innovations!

[@anlyuce]

First?

[@valentivev7551]

it was 2024... the case where the power supply is on top and sucks in hot air... what's wrong with the intelligence there? Was the case developed by engineers or marketers?

[@HardwareCanucks]

This isn't the year 2000, a time when power supplies were super inefficient, produced a ton of heat and the cheapo ones could self-immolate. With 80Plus and now Cybernetics certifications, you really don't need to worry about a power supply "overheating" anymore unless you completely cheap out. Plus, the PSU location CAN BE MOVED....which is a highlight of this case. ;)

[@valentivev7551]

@@SnowsLife Of course I saw it, it can be on top or bottom. But it would be better if it was in the trash.

[@LinusBerglund]

Convection is easily overcome by fans. I doubt it makes much of a difference.

[@valentivev7551]

@@HardwareCanucks highlight? Haha... You also put 4090, and pass half a kilowatt through the heat power supply)) Meme "everything is fine, the room is on fire"

[@HardwareCanucks]

Much of the heat gets dissipated through the case's internal airflow dynamics before even hitting the PSU. What does actually get munched by the PSU wouldn't bother any modern supply in the least.

[@SiniSael]

boring - PSU in the bottom...BORING!??...The psu in top is the new black? my i486 had the PSU on the top...Its circular...But atleast throw the PSU in the front. The screens, TG and RGB is the result of youtube...and ironicly the content I'm currently watching...Its fluf, and beyond stupid but occassionally there are decent products and builds - but mostly its hiding a price hike and most gobble it up.

[@GFClocked]

The oled is a stupid idea.. Fish tank is fundamentally non-optimal airflow. So no thank you. Although i hate everything about this case, too much gamery angles, the entire design is busy. It's the opposite of elegant and classy. Just ordered h7 2024, now that's a good looking case, will never get out of style.