New Cross Slide Handwheel For The Mini Lathe - 1/2

Part 2: • New Cross Slide Handwh...
When I made the new handwheel for my Mini Lathes Carriage, I run into the problem of not having enough space any more for the cross slide handle. The handle of the cross slide now collided with the new made carriage handwheel. Provisorily I switched to a smaller handle for the cross slide, but my plan was to upgrade the cross slide too with a whole new handle. Now this project is done and here comes the first part of the built video.
The space on this little machines is very limited so everything remains really tight. But nontheless the result is really satisfying. I decided to install a much bigger scale drum which makes it easier to read and use the dial. In this part of the video I'm making the new spacer/mounting block which gives about 15mm more travel, the bearing block part, the graduated scale drum and the handwheel. The next part will be about the sofisticated locking mechanism for the dial which is copied from swiss high end Schaublin machines, the new spindle and nut and everything else for completing this project.
I hope you enjoy my work. Feel free to comment, like and if you want more: subscribe to the channel.
Thanks!
Plans and drawings for this project are available on Patreon.
My Patreon page: www.patreon.com/wecandothatbetter
If you want to support me, you can send me a coffee: paypal.me/wcdtb
Many thanks to Fa. Lörken, the Akko tool supplier here in Germany for sponsoring me the internal threading bar. I'm really happy with the companies tools!
- Akko supplier Lörken: www.loerken.de
- Akko: www.akko.com.tr
00:00 Intro and recap
01:00 Making the mounting block
06:17 Making the bearing block
08:46 Making the bearing lock nut
10:20 Finishing the bearing block
12:04 Making the dial, engraving, knurling, punshing numbers
17:49 Making the handwheel part
-Making a dial for Mini Lathes carriage: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ivp5...
-Adjustable Carriage Stop: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpWPT...
-Mini Lathe compound angle modification: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdkoT...
-Mini Lathe tailstock fine adjustements: • Mini Lathe tailstock m...
-Mini Lathe bearings for the compound slide: • Bearings for the mini ...

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Plans for the Cross Slide Handwheel modification on my Mini Lathe are now available on Patreon: www.patreon.com/wecandothatbetter

[@Pushyhog]

best mini channel ever.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

I'm humbled! Thank you!

[@giovannifalzoi6674]

lei e semplicemente favoloso x i lavori e le lezioni di capacità meravigliose grazie mille ok 👌

[@niklnikl1]

Got to be one of the most beautiful handwheel setups. Excellent design and great execution. Thank you for inspiring.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for your kind comment! I really do appreciate that!

[@kimber1958]

ONCE MORE OUTSTANDING WORK

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks! I really do appreciate that!

[@mftmachining]

Sehr gute Arbeit. Hast dir n riesen Aufwand wegen einer einfachen Verlängerung gemacht. Kann man machen, Respekt.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

:D Ja stimmt, manchmal übertreibe ich es etwas :) Aber vielen Dank für dein Kompliment! Freut mich, wenn es gefällt.

[@VanFlausch]

Nice to see the Upgradingprocess of this Lathe^^

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks my friend!

[@user-cz6vq5vv5e]

Виготовлення лімба особливо порадувало. Гарна робота.

[@jt9498]

Superb craftsmanship! Thoroughly enjoyed watching this. When can we expect Part 2 of this build? Anxious to see the finished result! :)

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for your kind comment! I really do appreciate that. Part 2 will follow probably in 2 weeks.

[@eduardocamji308]

Excelente, la máquina hace su parte, sus manos y conocimiento, el resto. Felicitaciones!!!

[@anuarabdulsamad2688]

I thought you going to CNC engrave it........your dial making technique is superb...👍

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

I don't have a cnc engraving machine. That would be great :) But so far I have to improvise how to do it with what I've got.

[@joewhitney4097]

Nice work on your project. Enjoy seeing the fixtures you have made to accomplish your tasks. Thanks for sharing.🙂

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks for your nice comment! :)

[@davidjames1007]

Great job and a nice upgrade to the mini lathe. Thanks for sharing

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for the kind comment!

[@drekzy0]

Absolutely awesome! And that is why I love being able to machine. It makes you think in a whole different light.. Instead of calling for help, we ask ourselves, "how can 'I' fix this, or, what can I do to make is better?". You did an great job. You are very creative and I can't wait to see part 2 of this! Keep up the amazing work!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you so much!

[@sambonefarmer9139]

I started by watching part II but, of course, had to then watch part I! Really enjoyed watching your process and outstanding skills and workmanship; I bet it is now much more enjoyable to use!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks for your kind comment! I really do appreciate that!

[@hamidrezahouri1199]

Your work is really perfect👍👍👍

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you so much!!

[@johncoops6897]

Shit, that knurling came out so awesome!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much! :) I really do appreciate that.

[@marksleeper9385]

Wow your good nice job

[@williamdillingham5781]

Fantastic job

[@Carnold_YT]

Great update and great upgrade. Nice work on the dial, that alignment tool for the numbers punch is brilliant! All the best from Holland!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for your kind comment! I really do appreciate that. The holder for the punch numbers is quickly improvised but does a good job during the last few projects :)

[@orangetruckman]

Can’t wait to see the rest 😆

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks :) It is in the pipeline ;)

[@MrLukealbanese]

Lovely work!!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much! :)

[@homemadetools]

Nice work as always. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Hi, thank you very much for sharing my work! I really do appreciate that! :)

[@parvizaghayarov935]

A lot time i wait this video thanks for share

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks!

[@oldschoolengineer58]

very good work, thanks for sharing.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks for your kind comment!

[@thomasfkeefe]

Very nice work, once again!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much!

[@fernandomesa7190]

Su trabajo es genial, parece casi imposible; realmente inspirador

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Muchas gracias!

[@joell439]

👍👍😎👍👍 Phenomenal results

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you so much! :)

[@cfnaround1585]

I’ve seen guys fill in lines like that with aluminum black. Seems to work great

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

That is a sort of cold bluing for aluminium? I thought about that, but was worried, that this fluid is rather toxic so I tried the safe method with the stick. Probably not as long lasting as aluminium black but so far works quite well.

[@cfnaround1585]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter the fluid is just as toxic as those fill sticks if the ones you used are lacquer based. I used to work with lacquer for a living, that stuff is nasty. I would use the same safety equipment to work with either. I love your work! I’m refurbishing an older 7x12 I got off a guy for $250. It’s near new condition. Still has cosmoline on it. So far I’ve ordered most things needed. Starting from the ground up. I’ll likely have a better lathe than a new LMS for less than $1000 and some of my time. Going to give it a cool paint scheme, something I haven’t seen anyone do

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

@@cfnaround1585 uh, I didn`t know that the lacquer stick is also quite toxic. I'm a quite worried now, I thought it is a harmless stuff. didn't wear any safety protections while working with. Strange that this little thing is hazardous too ... :(

[@cfnaround1585]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter you’ll be fine, just don’t eat it.

[@cfnaround1585]

The worst lacquer is the liquid and aerial form where you can breath it. Kills a lot of brain cells. You’ll be fine if you don’t eat it or lick your fingers… or your lathe

[@tootaashraf1]

looks great!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks!

[@billshiff2060]

Nice job.

[@YooProjects]

Great project mate 👍💫👍

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks.

[@Litzwire]

Nice. Very nice!

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for your comment!

[@daniloagostini4156]

Brilliant!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks a lot!

[@JoZf_Gibson]

Merci

[@raoulvolfoni1971]

Good job!😀

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks!

[@luizsiqueto]

wonderful excelente work

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you!

[@Mr986Willis]

How did you clean up the burs from engraving the graduations?

[@adriankohli4870]

Top Job, Sir👌

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks:)

[@dennythomas8887]

I agree with everybody else, nice project plus I subbed to make sure I get to see part 2

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for your comment and for subscribing! I really do appreciate that.

[@harlech2]

Fantastic job on the dial! And I know you are rather limited based on the cutting tool size, but have you considered trying different inserts with different chip breaker geometries? I think it would really help so you don't end up with long stringy chips.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for your comment and your feedback! I unfortunately don't have much more different inserts to try. And yes, the aluminium produces some nasty birds nests.. That was quite annoying:/

[@valeralarin5802]

Здорово мастер👍

[@MsRody2009]

beautiful work that ink is 20.48

[@pgiamel]

Un lavoro meraviglioso, bello da vedere e di ottima fattura, complimenti penso proprio di copiarlo per il mio tornietto !! Bravissimo ti seguo con interesse

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Grazie per il bel commento!

[@FurkanInsmuh]

7:51 i proud of with AKKO from TURKEY

[@jakeschneider22]

I've watched all of your videos so far. What would you say you have in materials and tooling for making the upgrades? I understand the point isn't to just "buy" better parts. Thanks!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Puh that's hard to tell. In this case you can't buy the things I made. Off course you can buy a better and bigger machine but that's another story. So it definitely takes some money but especially it takes a lot of time to make:)

[@kolbakolba]

Great job🦾 Try to make some tool to clean gear ( like in big metal bandsaw) to clean automatically, in some degree circle Dremel brush done this autonomous.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks for your comment! You mean while knurling? Yes, using the toothbrush is no fun :) Flood coolant would help too I guess, but it will produce a mess too :)

[@jrkorman]

You have titled your channel "We can do that better" and you most certainly have!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much for your comment. I really do appreciate that! I gave my channel this name as it needed one and I had no good idea. I finally used this sentence out of my very first video and made it to the channel name. I never expected the channel to grow so big. Now I'm a bit ashamed as it sounds quite showy or sophomoric.... o: :)

[@tluanem]

👍👍👍

[@barrishautomotive]

My big lathe (3 tons) is missing its cross slide dial. I've been pondering how to make a new one. Specifically how to make the markings. I think I may have to try this method.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Good luck!

[@andrevanderwatt9860]

Hi could you please explain the 80 lines which gives you the 0.05 dimension. How was this calculated. Thanks again for your video

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks for your comment! The new lead screw I installed on the cross slide has 2mm pitch. That means 1 revolution of the cross slide handwheel results in 2mm travel of the crossslide which means 4mm diameter reduction of the workpiece (as reducing 2mm on the radius means reducing 4mm on the diameter). I wanted the dial to read the diameter reduction so I devided 4mm by 80 lines and got 0,05mm diameter reduction per line on the cross slide dial. I hope that makes some sense to you :)

[@andrevanderwatt9860]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter Thank you for your reply. It's much appreciated

[@ThanasisThomas]

How do you like the new servo motor so far?? Is it better than the original dc motor?? Can you cut threads like before fully functional ??

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Hi, I'm really happy with the new servo motor. It works really well. I guess cutting threads is even better as with the old motor. The servo has much more power in slow rpm and I think it runs slower than the original motor too. So all in all it was the right decision.

[@ThanasisThomas]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter excellent i will do the same switch!! :) And slower is better for the lathe :D

[@SuperGleep]

What size are the number stamps you're using for the dial? 3mm?

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Yes, they are 3mm high.

[@Cokhimientay2024]

New subscriber

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you for following and welcome!

[@rickpalechuk4411]

Nicely done! The knurling was exceptional. Quick question; is that speedkar99's bother's toothbrush? Cheers

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much! What do you mean with the toothbrush? I just use old ones in the shop for different cleaning jobs :)

[@isidoromaich7226]

Speedkar99... 😂I got it... he randomly use the socks, underwear and everything of his brother lol

[@rickpalechuk4411]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter just being funny

[@jakeperry8773]

You should make yourself a pinch knurler. A lot better for your spindle bearings and less noisy

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

You mean these scissor type knurling tools? That is a totally different knurling method. My tool is a cut knurling tool. This means the knurl is cut into the material using a sharp cutting wheel at an angle. This method introduces much less force to the lathes spindle than form knurling which presses the knurl into the part. Off course the scissor type tools won't introduce as much force to the spindle but also they press the knurl instead of really cutting it. Both ways are ok and give good results.

[@sorankarim5190]

What is that tool you used to make key hole in the bore? Thanks

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

That's a keyway cutting tool I built. You find a video on making this tool on my channel or actually 2 videos as there is part1 and 2.

[@user-zo8mm4sb4i]

Все на висшем уровне снимаю шляху сєр вам би еще станки по серьезней вот би ви фокуси б делали б

[@werschkowdennis6533]

Alles perfekt, einfach perfekt. Ich gefällt es, wie genau und sauber du das alles machst. Ich versuche auch alles perfekt zu machen und jeden Kratzer auf der Oberfläche zu vermeiden. Sag Mal, wie gefällt dir der Motor das du in der vorletzten Folge eingebaut hast? Weil ich überlege mir auch so einen zu holen. Bist du zufrieden damit? Bei Gewindeschneiden, wie langsam kannst du das einstellen? Ich meine die Drehzahl, wie niedrig und ob der Motor noch kräftig genug dafür sei? Währe super wenn du mir die paar Fragen beantwortest. Und noch was, kannst du mir vielleicht die Welle verlinken, die für den Quervorschub, mit der Linksgewinde und Muttern. Ich habe nichts gefunden im Internet. Danke im vorraus! Dir alles gute und bleib gesund.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Vielen Dank für deinen freundlichen Kommentar! Mit dem Motor bin ich sehr zufrieden. Die langsamste mögliche Drehzahl im 1. Gang sind etwa 40 U/min. Das ist auf jeden Fall langsam genug, zum Gewindeschneiden. Und Kraft hat der Motor auch mehr als genug. Ich habe die 500W Variante und das ist mehr als ausreichend. Die Gewindespindeln und Muttern habe ich hier gekauft: hfbshop.de/?cat=c37_LRM-Rechts-LRM-Linksgewinde-37.html

[@marcoschwanenberger3127]

Exceptional work, as always! I want do remake the dials on my Ehrlich as well, but I doubt they will look and work as well as yours!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thanks for your kind comment! Just try ;)

[@plang42]

All the aluminium sworf was getting on my nerves and I was just watching!, is there a better insert that would stop it curling up like that?

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Oh yes that's annoying.. :/ I'm using 7075 aluminium which is extremely tough and gave these stringy chips. Perhaps with other feeds and speeds the chips get shorter.

[@erlinghagendesign]

how do you position the (threaded) drill holes precisely? Are you using an edge finder? Can you explain your method or better show it? Wie positionieren Sie die (Gewinde-)Bohrlöcher genau? Benutzen Sie einen Kantentaster? Können Sie Ihre Methode erklären oder besser zeigen?

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Hallo und vielen Dank für den Kommentar. Welche Stelle im Video meinst du genau? Wenn es präzise sein muss, arbeite ich mit Kantentaster und dem Koordinatentisch der Proxxon Fräsmaschine. Which part of the video you are reffering to?

[@erlinghagendesign]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter 11.15min finishing the bearing block. Would be great to see this in a next video how you set it up. I am sure many people also can learn this from you. 11.15 Min. Fertigstellung des Lagerblocks. Es wäre toll, dies in einem nächsten Video zu sehen, wie Du es einrichtest. Ich bin sicher, dass viele Menschen auch dies von Dir lernen können.

[@Tome4kkkk]

1:04 What? How do you use that side of calipers? :)

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

On some calipers you can use this side too. There is a step with the exakt same measurement as the dial indicates.

[@cameronmccreary4758]

That's what dividing heads are for. One can mark the divisions then stamp the numbers with an overstamping jig.

[@leslieaustin151]

Not if you don’t own one. Many of us use the method shown here, and it works very well.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

I have no real dividing head for this so I went this way. It works really well for me. With a dividing head I probably had to mill the lines on the milling machine with an engraving tool. Different approach, I think both ways will work.

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

And it actually works really well. No rocket engine precision but sufficient for this I guess.

[@paulocruz2723]

Hello. Your work is amazing! Here are you from?

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Thank you very much! Greetings from Germany.

[@paulocruz2723]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter i'm from Portugal and i have a small metalworking shop... My shop Doors are Open to you!

[@TheZzziggy]

I though you would set it on fire, when you decided to use a cig lighter fluid. That would yield a nice try whenever it succeeded (most probably) or not (unlikely)!

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

:D Last time I made good experience with this on dissolving the super glue. But this time it doesn't work at all. It probably couldn't reach into the part far enough. I tried to avoid using a heating torch.

[@TheZzziggy]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter Heat from burning that lighter fluid would most probably help you with separating those parts. You should try it on some further operations.

[@BTSensei]

⭐🙂👍

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Look out for part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l37Hd6GahNKcirM

[@Tome4kkkk]

Could you please state the maker and model of your lathe?

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

The lathe was originally from the company Artec. Model is CJ-9518 / C2. This machine is the same as the Sieg C2 produced from many different companies.

[@Tome4kkkk]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter Thank you so much for the information! Since you're from Germany, the sourcing to Poland should be possible. The only problem is some of your upgrades are expensive. And don't even get me started with the tool holder, you lucky booger! ;)

[@Tome4kkkk]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter And thank you double because I've noticed they are still available for areound 800 EUR so I scratched my initial plan of going full DIY. Full DIY with no established basic metal shop would have been a trully dumb idea. I would have gone a shopping spree, buying not-so-cheap chucks, carriages and what not, ending up with a pile of mismatched our redundant parts. / While I have your attention... I'm new to the subject. Could you please explain what's with those 4-jaw chucks? They allow for both off-center holding as well as more precise center holding than 3-jaw chucks. Why would anyone buy a 4-jaw self-centering one???

[@nadersadeghmohammadi2721]

👏👏👏👏👏🌹🌹

[@Pushyhog]

im ona hafa lay down now! Tired:-)

[@FurkanInsmuh]

The AKKO brand isn't from german. AKKO is the best cutting tools in TURKEY

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Yes I know, the german supplier of akko products sent it to me, the company itself isn't in germany.

[@FurkanInsmuh]

@@WeCanDoThatBetter got it. Thanks for your comment also AKKO brand is very comfortable i can recommed all world Greetings from Turkey

[@alexnet8943]

Если Вы хотите превзойти Илона Маска в его достижениях, то Вам обязательно нужно сделать то, что Вы увидели ! Иначе у Вас ничего не получится !

[@Tome4kkkk]

The content is great but... a bit pointless given that you don't even show the model and maker.

[@razz33069]

First

[@WeCanDoThatBetter]

Congrats ;) And thanks for commenting.