That controller is trash. Way too expensive for what it is.
@bigjentertainment87610 ай бұрын
Totally agree. This release is a big flop
@DjStorm-110 ай бұрын
They should put it on the clearance rack 70% off sale.
@jmfbabyj10 ай бұрын
If this is Pioneers high light for Namm they Flopped
@jmfbabyj10 ай бұрын
Hard FAILLLL …. Man I was expecting a 10inch platter 4 channel controller with on board efx maybe a New mixer or new cdjs….feel like pioneer flopped on this one
@TheOnlyDjMikeStone9 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you for keeping it real. I saw your video about this piece of equipment and I never knew about an NDA. Thanks for keeping it real.
@eecycee60739 ай бұрын
good on you rick, your the Katt Williams on this Topic, The consumer want the truth and not some fake review, some of my fav djs online giving fake reviews even though I could see that they dont like it at all.
@TheHoovman8110 ай бұрын
And this is why DJ Groovy Savage bought Both Lighting USA tubes: Honesty! You are the best Rick and thank you for this.
@DjInTheGrooveAlexBarrios10 ай бұрын
I'm totally with you on this Rick 💯 %. I just bought a the Numark mixstream pro go about 3 weeks for only $800.00 I am so amazed by the product it literally throughs Omnis Duo out the water. Great video.
@DjTecniq10 ай бұрын
Dude! I’m considering getting one. Any issues or lags with it? Would be so dope to practice with at home or on the go. Heard some users speakers were blowing though.
@mixx_factory10 ай бұрын
Nah. I have the mixstream pro go since new . Coming up a year now. Its pretty solid . The Speakers are good for home practicing and enjoying music at home . I have pushed the speakers all the way up and gain all the way up in the red and its all good . For club use the speakers are useless. I have used it out for alot of gigs where i was traveling light . And it also works with serato as well
@christianmeiser55179 ай бұрын
The alphatheta does not have the low latency wireless Protocol built in, you have to use their transmitter that is only delivered with the speakers. But you could do that with any other controller...
@jonathanberube505610 ай бұрын
Great review Rick! The omnis is just an overpriced Denon Prime Go (probably $500/$600 overpriced). $1,500 for gimmick/toyish controller is crazy. Why buy this when you can get a b-stock rev 7 for the same price.
@pete9167110 ай бұрын
Exactly
@UONeal10 ай бұрын
Bc the Rev 7 isn't stand alone. Your comparison to the Prime Go is more relevant... Or even the Mixstream Pro Go... Most People looking for an all in one aren't looking for a large spinning platter controller
@nodaysoff20059 ай бұрын
@@UONealthem get the Denom stand alone for $300 cheaper. Get your ankles from behind your ears
@mike._.feliciano67829 ай бұрын
Here's the deal, sure, inflation my be causing some increases however, transportation cost are steady, down from years past and you know manufacturing cost are probably the same as this is manufactured overseas. Quality may be the same but AlphaTheta is banking on people purchasing this based on their name and AlphaTheta being the "flagship" brand moving forward. You are spot on regarding the price, seems really high for what you are getting.
@stick_nick10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more Rick. This controller is definitely gimmicky. I could only see this being decent for a ceremony setup but I’d rather just use an iPad with djay pro
@AaronStrawn10 ай бұрын
No way it should cost more than the Denon Prime Go. Bluetooth is coming soon on it too
@littlecncshop10 ай бұрын
So isn't streaming. And a few other things.
@tommygarcia801010 ай бұрын
@@littlecncshopstreaming is coming end of year
@mikesinclair59889 ай бұрын
One thing the Prime Go doesn't have that the Omnis DOES is Mic EQ.
@opseeker10 ай бұрын
Clearly all the DJs that released a first look with the unit in hand are taking an L in terms of integrity.
@ClevelandTerry10 ай бұрын
Yeah not really. One of us has used it, one of us has not.
@opseeker10 ай бұрын
@@ClevelandTerry I hear you, but you can't deny that it is a knick on anyone's perception of independence. I haven't really heard much critique, they were rather enthusiastic feature demonstrations. Basically advertisement.
@nodaysoff20059 ай бұрын
They are trying to keep relationships with these companies. Rick has his own company and doesn't need his ankles behind his ears like these other DJs
@nodaysoff20059 ай бұрын
They are trying to keep relationships with these companies. Rick has his own company and doesn't need his ankles behind his ears like these other DJs
@nodaysoff20059 ай бұрын
@ClevelandTerry sir,I follow you and support you heavily. We can watch you use the controller and see everything that Rick has said is true. For that price you shouldn't be recommending anybody to get it. In every aspect you can find a better controller for a cheaper price.
@oldschooldjernie9 ай бұрын
I think you are right about Alpha Theta having to pay royalties on the brand. I think when Pioneer split with Pioneer TV, car stereos, etc. They changed their name to Pioneer DJ and Pioneer car stereos existed on their own. So now the future will be Alpha Theta and everyone's Pioneer DJ product will be soon like having a Vestax or Soundcraftsman MTX. Farewell Pioneer DJ
@lucasdemaria102410 ай бұрын
I use a Denon SC live and couldn't be happier. Even the tacky built in speakers are useful for my daily practice. The price of this thing is insane. Is missing buttons, access, streaming options (at least for now) and SoundSwitch control which I live from my Denon. Streaming over Bluetooth and playing KZbin videos? Very impressive but I don't see myself doing that as a professional DJ ever! I'll plug in everything and be relaxed trying to give my best while performing and not worrying about batteries or Bluetooth signal. Just my opinion
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
Lol. I thought the same thing. Impressive but like why?
@lucasdemaria102410 ай бұрын
I also think you nailed it by saying that this of tik tok 😂. I also saw people considering this for ceremonies. Really? For background music and 3 songs? Not me
@anboojz8 ай бұрын
it just doesn’t look like professional dj gear. It looks like a ddj-flx4 with built in monitor, for the price of pro dj equipment.
@dj_rys0910 ай бұрын
First legit review. Stopped watching any of the other ones.
@m-stat99 ай бұрын
Phil and Mojaxx are okay for me, at least the remain serious and calm, but Nick and Terry are annoying clowns, I never liked them. Good choice, anyway! 👍
@paulincorvaia99149 ай бұрын
Looking to get the ddj flx 10 What you think???
@DJRickWeb9 ай бұрын
Not sure
@chriswerner655710 ай бұрын
Nailed It, it's CRAP!!! $1500, are you Shitting Me
@miherenciamexicana10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the honest review, I feel the same way.
@rayvillanueva98034 ай бұрын
wait for the updates bro more potential on this controller, but if they stop update it then you can talk
@l1ckwood10 ай бұрын
Alpha Theta owns Pioneer so no royalties would have to be paid if they kept the Pioneer logo.
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
I would have to dig through the by out contract but normally in a brand buy out there are royalties paid out to the previous owner on all brand sales for a period. Most buy outs on the backend are not just a fat check wrote and done. Normally there are terms for the buyout over time
@littlecncshop10 ай бұрын
@@DJRickWebit was a fat check written. Alpha theta has a perpetual license they have already paid for to pioneer. Whether they use the name or not, pioneer made their money. There's no expiration date, and no royalties.
@justingarret477610 ай бұрын
Alpha Theta owns Pioneer DJ but not Pioneer. There could still have been licensing fees to Pioneer for the continued use of the name in Pioneer DJ even with the acquisition of Pioneer DJ.
@littlecncshop10 ай бұрын
@@justingarret4776 read my reply. There is no current licensing fee.
@bigjentertainment87610 ай бұрын
This is bullSh!t. It seems DJ companies just make things bcuz they know DJs are dumb and will buy anything. It's ridiculous. We didn't need this. What we need is a SZ3 haha😂
@eddieacosta195510 ай бұрын
Yes An SZ 3 Would Be Great I Still Rock With My SZ 1
@DjTecniq10 ай бұрын
This thing would be “horrible” at a night time gig. Nothing is lit up except that screen. Also hate the alphabet cue pads…but i get the promo approach. I would prob like it a lot more if it actually had something with more design appeal besides the screen…it’s just very plain. 🤷🏻♂️
@djmax211010 ай бұрын
Strongly agree on this video review. Finally a honest review. 👍
@upbeatsdj843910 ай бұрын
on point brother
@djcalvin68110 ай бұрын
On point Rick. Thx. Squad
@chriswerner655710 ай бұрын
What do you think of the Rev 5?
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
Dont have one just yet
@djkeithjust10 ай бұрын
Just spent the last 2 days at NAMM and the OMNIS its really good! They basically took the OPUS and shrunk it!!! Also you can power and charge it from a cell phone battery back.
@m-stat99 ай бұрын
I can operate my SC Live 4 (which is far superior and costs €300 less) with a XTPower from Amazon, too, and I have good sounding speakers directly integrated.
@DJ_V_squared10 ай бұрын
The software doesn't have key match or the ability to stream from music services. You'll be better off picking up the new reloop mixtour and using djay Pro with an iPad.
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
Agree
@DjStorm-110 ай бұрын
Why $1500. They can keep it.
@soundinsurgent71210 ай бұрын
I agree with everything your saying here but be careful with the MixStream. I have 1 and now it’s pretty much a paperweight because the crossfader is not replaceable 🤦🏾♂️ And yeah I know I can take it apart and solder it in but I should NOT have to do this in 2024!!
@mixx_factory10 ай бұрын
Omnis Duo crossfader isn’t replaceable either
@soundinsurgent71210 ай бұрын
Yup I saw that 2 so this isnt an option for me.@@mixx_factory
@m-stat99 ай бұрын
many units dont have directly accessible crossfadera, dude. Also you‘re the first guy complaining about. Maybe don‘t abuse it for turntableism. I
@soundinsurgent7129 ай бұрын
@@m-stat9 🤣😂😂 Turntablists I’m not, it’s just a cheap crossfader and it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s 2024 and in this day and age ALL crossfaders should be “end user replaceable”. Stop sticking up for companies who give a crap. If we stop accepting them (companies) being cheap this wouldn’t be a problem!! They call it the “MixStream PRO” for a reason.
@m-stat99 ай бұрын
I dont stick with anyone, just calming down ranting clowns. Peace!@@soundinsurgent712
@21stCenturyDanceClub9 ай бұрын
Mixstream Pro Go 👊💯🎶
@louprimo60628 ай бұрын
Rick it’s a Theta not a Fader. 😂
@donaldccannon110 ай бұрын
Man imma do a video on SKAA. I cut the wires out. I took a chance n never looked back. I’m so surprised no one says nothing about it
@EllwinNSF10 ай бұрын
They designed it for Tiktokers and social media influencers
@mannythedj202310 ай бұрын
DENON PRIME GO > This
@jimmyj15482 ай бұрын
Yeap I am sold Denon all day!
@OwlStudio7310 ай бұрын
You said it..the price reflects status..they want to launch the new name and create a status for those that think they are in the elite group owning expensive gear..someone is always willing to pay and brag
@docgeo17799 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, but how can you do a product “review” without having the product in hand? Also, I highly doubt that Allha Theta pays “royalties” because they own Pioneer. 😂 Lastly, I’ve actually owned the Denon prime go, Numark mix pro go, Pioneer RR, RX3 and now this Omnis duo. The Omnis Duo is in a nice middle point of being smaller than the Numark, with larger jogwheels than the Denon while retaining the rekordbox capabilities of the RX3/RR/CDJs. The Omnis Duo is pretty expensive, but it’s also extremely versatile … the Bluetooth input steaming is great for song requests and Serato integration will make it great for Stems.
@anewk986810 ай бұрын
Race to the bottom (quality wise) & they even jacked the whole “Wave 8” speaker name from Reloop (we have speakers they sent me to review over a decade ago 🤦🏾♂️)
@bboymac8410 ай бұрын
I don’t have NDA and they brought the unit to our booth and it’s built well and it works great!! Just wish they had tilt screen 🤷🏾♂️😅
@m-stat99 ай бұрын
wow, you standards are low. Of course it should be made well and work for that ridiculous price!! My SC Live 4 was €1200 and flushes this shit down the toilet 😂
@allandenola596810 ай бұрын
Terrible looking product and price is nuts - battery cant be changed
@djtremendez10 ай бұрын
This controller is for those rich hippies that are going to every festival. You wonder how they have the time, and money to go? Pioneer show them in their promo video for this controller. These DJs are not booking gigs for money. They probably have a trust fund or still live at home. They like to throw parties/mini raves outside of festivals, at the beach, and the mountains. They also love showing off Pioneer gear in their photos. You know who I’m talking about because you see CDJ’s or their DJX controller taking up 50% of every photo they take of themselves. That demographic will never buy any other brand. Pioneer knows this, and that’s why they kept the price is just under a DJX controller.
@Baxter200510 ай бұрын
Controller should be $500
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz10 ай бұрын
It’s perfect for a beach party or music bingo. The price is crazy though.
@xataum0078 ай бұрын
"You can buy soo many controllers" and you gonna need a laptop and your generator or battery bank and you didn't even touch the Omnis Duo hahahaha. By the way CDJs 3000 are touch screen right?🤷🏽
@eespecialeventsdj10 ай бұрын
The software seems amazing, but dang bro, that pricetag is under a brand new MSI Laptop and a cheap basic controller (bus powered by the laptop) WILD!
@waves51148 ай бұрын
Cdjs are more expensive tho
@steveott188410 ай бұрын
I love a touch screen! I don't like wireless. Never trust it. Wired works 100% of the time!
@DJGaryP10 ай бұрын
Let’s hope they block the acquisition of serato in march. The DJ industry will definitely take a turn for the worse if it goes through.
@m-stat99 ай бұрын
thats my great concern as well. Pioneer already owns the booth. If inMusic looses this battle. we DJs are even more screwed. Just look at SoundSwitch (amazing) vs RB-DMX (crap)
@crawfordpc5510 ай бұрын
UGH for this controller..
@karlbakker711110 ай бұрын
Cost aside, they do not understand branding. Pioneer is like gold and should not be messed with. Bring back Vestax!
@korikreationsatl10 ай бұрын
#SQUAD
@marcoramos592310 ай бұрын
DJ RICK WEB 🎧 I Agee with you totally with this review .
@antoniolockhart2110 ай бұрын
#squad
@DJLyncho9 ай бұрын
Mans afraid of a touchscreen 😏😁 But yeah the controller is wack
@profbx525810 ай бұрын
Yay! You can read!
@profbx525810 ай бұрын
Huh….its funny when you sarcastically troll a video and the maker hearts it. Guess it tracks.
@chitowndj7210 ай бұрын
@@profbx5258 Aside from the topic at hand, in all fairness, most of the time your comments on social media are sarcastic, arrogant and condescending. Hardly an instance of idle sarcastic trolling on one video. I can probably screenshot a dozen examples in a very short time. Maybe Rick hearted your commentary to neutralize your wrath, your highness.
@profbx52589 ай бұрын
@@chitowndj72 I've really struggled as to how to respond to this, or if it is worth responding to. I guess I am responding because, yea, I do come off the wrong way sometimes but a lot of it is that I am quite autistic and my responses often totally come off as robot speak, which could be considered condescending. As far as this comment, I was angry at Rick telling falsehoods about my friends. That said I also thanked him in his video for the apology. As far as opinions on Omnis, that is 100% his right and it didn't bother me in the slightest, but my response didn't give that impression. Anyway, sorry for the word dump, but I felt that your response deserved a thoughtful response.
@chitowndj729 ай бұрын
@@profbx5258 I very rarely comment on any videos, because at 30,000 feet, none of the back and forth is really worth anyone's time. However, I had seen many of your comments in the past and they frequently rubbed me the wrong way. I have made my career in the marketing and PR space and I wouldn't want any of my brand ambassadors/reps interacting with current or potential customers this way. I happen to be your customer as well. On the other hand and what I believe is wrong with text-only communication these days, is if I knew you personally and/or had been aware of the context you just shared, I definitely wouldn't have commented at all. So for this, please accept my apology and thank you for your open, thoughtful, respectful and educational response. Peace.
@m-stat99 ай бұрын
better don’t ‚respond’ at all in future.
@justingarret477610 ай бұрын
1st thoughts were that's pretty cool. Small piece to take out to for a small event, ceremony, etc. I only watched Brian's video on it and then he said the price and I thought "oh that's probably the price for the controller and the Wave 8, that's not terrible. Then I find out that's the price for the controller by itself 🤣 $1500 and looks like Fisher Price made it.
@Ziggy_v210 ай бұрын
I can already see a - TikTok Beanie wearing Hipster Lip-Singing to a DJ Set using the Alpha-OMNI-Duo 😁
@johncolon861410 ай бұрын
Aside from it having the sd,usb, and instant streaming to decks. The price is not reasonable
@DJLazyKid10 ай бұрын
Like anything else on the market, anyone should ask their self if it fits their needs. I can see this being a good fit for ceremony, cocktail hour, an after party, rooftop bar, basement lounge etc. The only fair comparison would be the Prime GO or any other stand alone (no laptop needed) / rechargeable controller. Your price rant was a lil funny because I think we all have complained about couples doing that to us as DJ's instead of looking at our value or what they need for their day.
@DjTonyRosa10 ай бұрын
My S7 controller from 2021 has the alpha theta name on it tho .
@Jordan_long10 ай бұрын
Please do a video on the mix stream pro go from Numark
@selyang64710 ай бұрын
i think the way Alpha Theta is going is they going to make their own lineup of dj products and pioneer dj will continue to make their won dj products as both companies are Run as separate companies even though pioneer dj is own by Alpha Theta that's what Alpha Theta said when they bought pioneer dj that pioneer dj products are not going any where except for name will change
@cloudthedj10 ай бұрын
Nobody in a professional setting will use this. And nobody in a casual setting will pay for this.
@gregaguilera730410 ай бұрын
This reminds me when Vestax used to randomly release premium high end HiFi DJ equipment.
@timwiedt10 ай бұрын
I see your point, Rick, however, try it out you never know.
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
I just might have too lol
@davinpatton271510 ай бұрын
Djs usually be quick to get the latest gear but this, nope.
@djdimmypdp10 ай бұрын
I’m not tracking why AT would need to pay royalties to pioneer if it’s an affiliate that it owns…
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
It all depends on how the by out merge deal went through. Sometimes they negotiate terms of the by out over time.
@justingarret477610 ай бұрын
They own Pioneer DJ but not Pioneer so it could be that Pioneer gets licensing fees for the name.
@littlecncshop10 ай бұрын
Say it with me everyone. "Alphatheta does not pay royalties to pioneer to use the name pioneer DJ". There was a perpetual license purchased a LONG time ago, with no expiration date. They pay nothing currently to use the name. They are also STILL going to be releasing pioneer DJ equipment.
@jamesvalenzuela420010 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said, Rick, but I believe that it works with any bluetooth speaker
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
It does. But the delay on bluetooth is the difference
@djpaulthompson10 ай бұрын
WHAT....WHAT...WHAT IN THE WORLD INDEED
@moeberry325610 ай бұрын
Right on ✅️
@steveott188410 ай бұрын
Mixstream Go Pro does very similar for half the price...
@grandpadejay99099 ай бұрын
Theirs no freakin way i would pay $1500 for that crap i have the denon prime go and iam happy with it
@derekrentschler771110 ай бұрын
I will not be buying this. Way over price. This might sound crazy but I still have CDs for back up. I use a CD mixer and can hock up my laptop. Great video Rick.
@officevol10 ай бұрын
Hello
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
Hi
@DjDosukoi10 ай бұрын
I"m having mixed feelings about this. The pad modes not being able to change without touching the screen is a turn off.
@ADALIL616 ай бұрын
So you’re making a review on a product by just watching through your screen without even having a real feel of it 😏
@richbanks91110 ай бұрын
"What do you guys phink about the new Alpha Pheta Omnius Duo"
@djkeithjust10 ай бұрын
Alright everyone, get your panty outta twist till you actually use it. I can honestly say after playing with, it is worth the 1500.
@ooowatzthat9 ай бұрын
L
@Oceancityent10 ай бұрын
Hard pass
@JamesJan-k5o10 ай бұрын
Great video as always, totally with you! Love looking forward to seeing new topics everytime 😆 Btw, could you check your inbox Ricky? I've sent you one 🥰!
@DJRickWeb10 ай бұрын
Which email? Or instagram?
@JamesJan-k5o10 ай бұрын
@@DJRickWeb Thank you for replying Rick. I emailed from MegaEvolution. Looking forward to your reply. Thank you😇