New DJI Bikes + Industry Rollercoaster | EMBN Show 368

[@embn]

What bike would you love to see a DJI motor on?

[@IdahoFatTireBikeFun]

A cross-country commuter with four paniers would be an amazing test for me. I'm a utilitarian cyclist rather than sporty.

[@JasonChambersPhoto]

Maybe the new Turbo Levo?

[@Marinmtb415]

Banshee would be cool to get into the ebike scene. Crestline Gasgas Ktm Forbidden And it needs to be 160 rear or more travel. Ideally 170/170

[@bauchxxl]

My Turbo Kenevo Gen 2 🤣

[@tromansn]

A 180mm Front & Rear beasty (like a KSL)

[@southyorkshiremountainbiki3003]

Orbea rise with the DJI motor would be cool 😂

[@themok3rify]

Inflation and financial inequality are the reason most luxury products are doing badly. People have a hard time paying their bills, let alone the insane MTB & EMTB pricing.

[@VivicaGsy]

@@themok3rify Absolutely! When I bought my last cyclocross commuter it was £800. Look at similar bikes now and they're £1,500+.

[@Loki-rascal]

@@themok3rify not for me, I simply went to school and got a good job and still make great money simply by working hard. A brand new $13,000 mountain bike is nothing for me.

[@boulderghost4457]

@@Loki-rascalMe neither. I bought Tesla shares at $38. Life is good!

[@davefreeman9347]

The industry is still suffering from the huge hangover from lockdowns where sales went through the roof, brands thought it was going to continue but it didn’t hence why you see a glut of 2023 models with 50% discounts collecting dust on websites, not sure when/how it’s going to recover but think there will still be casualties to come especially when you see some brands still selling their top end models at around £10k plus still 🤯

[@JasonChambersPhoto]

Another awesome show boys. Thanks so much for the mention. 👊

[@embn]

Barney Rubble looks like a very good boy

[@JasonChambersPhoto]

@@embn He's a very good, good boy 😀

[@antdod1]

Klent hills just bought back many memories for me I worked for my grandad's building firm and painted an old school house in klent I now shred in Ireland on my specialized

[@wurm8648]

Lost Valley trail in St. Charles, MO (Missouri). Very near where uranium and TNT were processed in the 20th century. Now a great place to ride a bike

[@Coolcmsc]

If you’re into KTM and want an e-bike, you buy a electric motocross for much less than an EEB 😂

[@porroco]

I m enduro rider, so hope to see LT bikes with dji

[@DavidPeake1]

A large number of motocross riders also ride MTB/eMTB, but I think other brands are generally more preferred. KTM, GasGas, and Husqvarna eMTBs don’t have the most aesthetically pleasing designs.

[@david029014]

I will stick with big brand bike shops like giant, specilized and cannondale. These new bike companies aleays have growing pains and warranty problems.

[@DZig]

good stuff. C'mon Spec, get with the DJI MO. =Missouri, I believe

[@mr_harm9266]

10:31 okay can we have the next hype please.... i'm kinda getting tired of "i HaVe aN AmFlOw"

[@IdahoFatTireBikeFun]

EMBN, the Hawaii wildfires in August 2023 were devastating, particularly on the island of Maui, where they resulted in over 100 deaths and destroyed more than 2,200 structures, primarily in the historic town of Lahaina. The fires were fueled by dry conditions and high winds, exacerbated by Hurricane Dora, leading to an estimated $5.5 billion in damages. Many ebike riders escaped with their lives because their ebikes could navigate tighter spaces than drivers stuck in gridlock traffic. Many drivers died due to the gridlocked traffic and the ebikers survived.

[@neildonoghueMTB]

I realised soon after filming that it was probably something to do with the fires, scary stuff

[@IdahoFatTireBikeFun]

@neildonoghueMTB yeah. It was scary. However, the wildfires in Hawaii and Los Angeles have shown how effective EMTBs are in a serious crisis where mobility and having a low profile is literally lifesaving. Neil, please watch the video that John Hicks did covering the Los Angeles wildfires on his EMTB. It has almost 10M views now. Without the risk of gasoline in a motorcycle, with the nimbleness of a mountain bike, and without the footprint of a car, Hicks could get on the ground video that no news station could. In addition, local bike shop owners literally rode their EMTBs downhill to avoid the wildfires that destroyed their shops and killed their neighbors. The EMTB has been a neat toy but now it's an evacuation vehicle, emergency response vehicle, and news vehicle. The EMTBs are game changers for society, in a good way.

[@Malannan]

I sold my Canyon and bought a Giant Trance X Advanced E+ Elite. Turns out, when I spend 11k on mountain bikes, I expect excellent customer service. Canyon's customer service is laughably bad. They are completely tone def and unable to even begin to approach the concept of retention. Stay ... away ... from Canyon. Oh, my partial refund was $200 .... on a 6k mountain bike. LOL.

[@MarkJones-re3po]

Five of my riding buddies are riding sports motorbikes and we all have emtb's too

[@BrianJ-t1u]

I wonder what motor the new Gen 4 Specialized Turbo Levo will have on it i believe its something very good and well worth the wait for it to come out

[@TAZMON20]

It's only worth the wait if you're wanting to buy a Specialized.

[@Scomelbasses]

I heard it was a new full power Mahle motor and they were not going to be using the Brose on their EMTB’s anymore.

[@BrianJ-t1u]

@@Scomelbasses yes i believe its a brand new powerful motor thats a DGI match / more powerful odd thing thing is its release date has been put back again to April but don't know why , thats all a insider would say due to a non disclaimer

[@fundidoarrojo269]

One thing is for sure: it will be highly overpriced.

[@sd5458]

​@@TAZMON20Not really... rumor is it's a game change in line with the DJI. Take it how you will.

[@rethridermtb3262]

Just as an FYI, MO is for Missouri. Minnesota is MN. MN is norths of Iowa. Missouri is south of Iowa and north of Arkansas.

[@porroco]

What about crestline ebikes

[@sd5458]

I've been saying this for a while now but the future will be interesting with vertical integration. More and more brands are wanting to (or will want to) create and source their own inhouse motors. There's too much in terms of reputation and warranty support on the line. Not to mention end to end experience for the consumer. Put it this way: as bands move away from Shimano motors what is their future? Back to brakes and drivetrains? Shimano makes no bikes. DJI (in theory) makes no bikes. That's a problem for both brands.

[@NmMotorsportz]

thing is though my rocky with less power has broken chains bent a cassette....

[@heywood165]

I’ve not had those problems on my RM, but I guess it’s possible on any ebike if you’re really cranking and changing gear at the same time.

[@NmMotorsportz]

@@heywood165 chainn just snapped bent casset was an odd one personly I think xt should not be e bike rated like they claim

[@heywood165]

The boom in bike sales during Covid was never going to be sustainable. People with no real need for a bike went out and bought up everything that was available with no thought to what they’d do with the bike once they could go back to their sunny beach holidays around the world. One thing that might help UK sales again is the changes to Italy and Spain’s tourism taxes, if people stop going there as much they may dig out their unsold bike that they couldn’t sell on eBay a couple of years ago and start buying mtb clothing and spares.

[@raketoped]

Why DJI? Established brands should just let the dogs out! I am sure Bosch could do this with an appupdate on the new generations.

[@CarkeekW]

dji has better controls, better software and firmware, more power, better battery management firmware, better display and some stuff i may have forgotten , oh yeah its quiet .

[@vashon100]

Bosch can't do an IP rating update via app.

[@ckaper78]

KTM being no. 1 motorcycle brand/saller/whatever in Europe in... which year, exactly? BMW has just announced its results for 2024, and it seems like it's on top, globally.

[@embn]

Thats what several news site are quoted as saying, but who knows if they are talking about global sales/ European etc

[@su1raM]

I dont care about any engine in future except the ones with gearbox, belt drive and being able to derestrict.

[@maldridge7630]

Owen is a pleasure to listen to because I understand every word he says ...Neil is a great guy with amazing history but to better understand him, I think I will need Deepseek's Janus Pro as an interpreter 🤔

[@paulhusky580bts]

Is Yamaha just there own Ebikes Will they still do there Ebike Motors

[@vashon100]

their vs there

[@sd5458]

Likely not. They are massively scaling back on all things including sports bikes and premiere championships along all genres. This is a chapter 11 restructuring bankruptcy meaning they take loans from investors as long as they promise to clean ship and change things. That begins with dropping expensive and or unprofitable or overly complicated ventures. The reality is KTM got too big for its britches and bought up too many companies of similar vein. Now they're paying for it. KTM as a brand isn't going anywhere. KTM making ebikes in some form going forward isn't going anywhere. Likely there will be different names etc.. warranties will be honored.

[@barbamatteo]

New specialized levo

[@Trekman78]

??

[@roddas26]

Why does everyone say D G I ? When its D J I?

[@davecaldasrocha]

at what point did someone buying a motorbike get an ebike for free? I’d love to know this. They’d have me as a customer tomorrow! Most quality e-bikes aren’t far off the price of great motorbikes. As someone who both cycles and rides motorbikes. The value for money equation on emtb doesn’t quite seem there.

[@neildonoghueMTB]

It was a limited amount if stores in the US last year as far as I can remember

[@gainknowledgeandinsight]

Stupid name - gas gas. Seriously?

[@TAZMON20]

Derives from the Spanish word, Vamos, gas gas, meaning, give it full gas which makes sense when talking motorbikes.

[@gainknowledgeandinsight]

@ ha. Pedal assist bike. I mean, have you ridden one? 😆. You still have to pedal your arse off. It’s awesome. I still don’t like the name. I wouldn’t buy it simply because of the name - I don’t even care how good it is. Stupid name. IMHO

[@vashon100]

I agree, rider does farts farts.

[@TAZMON20]

So when the DJI Avinox motor fails just where do you go, theres so many people wishing this and that and if tjis or that bike had the DJI Avinox motor it woukd be great but seriously, where's the back-up and service networks required to service and warranty the bikes people are wishing were available.

[@embn]

It sounds like it is there, they have decent shop support in the UK at least and a warehouse in Europe to ship spares out.

[@whitest_kyle]

Forbidden with DJI? OH SHIT

[@TheAfricanGarage]

Woild love to see a dji motor on a sub 24kilo, steel, full suspension bike. Doesn't have to be long travel though

[@vashon100]

Why steel over aluminum?

[@rinnermax1740]

E bikes are for old people 😁

[@betttina33333]

People sending in photos of their bicycle is very gay

[@embn]

No, it's not

[@martyy4073]

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