NEW ENDGAME Details Dark Citadel Difficulty, NEW Character Progression & QoL in Vessel of Hatred

[@Rob2628]

At Gamescom I had an Interview with two amazing Vessel of Hatred developers! They talked about Mercenaries, Dark Citadel and a whole new character progression. Now I am really hyped and looking forward to the Campfire Chat where they reveal more. What you think of the new insights? Let me know in the comments! Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:10 Mercenaries & Group Play 04:46 How we hire them - Do we need Gold? 06:46 Mercenarie is not a minion & Raport System 07:36 Dark Citadel Difficulty 08:45 Changes to Level & Character Progression 09:26 Different Citadel Levels & Tormented 13:02 Undercity 15:42 New Inventory Tab 16:50 QoL Improvements, Party Finder & Feedback

[@joeangel2650]

Did they say how long the new season will go ??

[@Ironmeen]

Maybe i missed it, but did you mention pit ladder?

[@Truthseeker-iz3dj]

Leaderboards coming? Will watch the video later

[@jonrich9675]

have you use the merc yet? how does it play?

[@mightymaeks]

supergeil :D

[@myhonesttake7527]

Rob asking all the best questions straight to the point. My dude.

[@culguyvegeta]

He's interrupting the devs at each possible instance, how is that my dude ?

[@pickle4289]

@@culguyvegeta ok karen drink ur prune juice and get off the internet

[@timothyetter9050]

​@@culguyvegetanot really. He's getting the main answer so he can ask as many questions as possible due to time. If he waited for each 10 minute answer he would only get 3 questions.

[@culguyvegeta]

@@timothyetter9050 so you mean each interviewer should fckn keep interrupting to get all the answers they want quick ? Who the fck are you to ask questions in the first place lol ? You're giving an opportunity, don't push it. Its about respect, I can't fckn keep poking my nose in each answer they give. Let's take an example, when they talk about mercenaries, the guy is in the middle explaining the skills and he cuts him short saying 'haha, they don't die then'. Where the fck is this a question?

[@myhonesttake7527]

They’re both doing their jobs, he’s hyped up, I’m sure they can sense his enthusiasm. I thought he did a great job getting through so much information in such a short and pressured amount of time.

[@AUZlE]

I enjoy seeing you not in the dark room. Your game and financials, you’ve earned it with all your hard work.

[@evanwater3633]

couldnt even imagine playing d4 as much as he does. the man does deserve it lul

[@Superawesomegeekshow]

Thanx for doing this, Rob. Really appreciate you taking the time to speak them out and get some feedback and questions answered. -then sharing it with all of us. Really wish we at least had a clan stash coming. heheh

[@pops9998]

Rob's the best sales man this game has. Compare these vids to those early woe be gone campfires. Keep up the good work.

[@brokenbracket]

I really want a wandering vendor. He's just always around, wherever you are. And wears a funny hat.

[@Electrichead64]

Look forward to this. Infernal Hordes were brilliant in my point of view. I'm 60 years old and literally been gaming since I was 10. I grew up in the arcades when pinball was the only thing that existed and have seen the ENTIRE evolution of video games with my own eyes and played just about all of them. I love arcade games especially. The Hordes remind me of old school arcade games. Maybe its too early to speak since Blizzard has such a history of screwing things up, but maybe they are finally learning to be smart.

[@lilredthabest]

im glad you share my perspective!

[@dethtron]

You have officially reached OG status. I tip my cap to you, good ser.

[@TheGreatTake]

I was hoping we could turn a mercenary into a vendor.

[@vbtrobotics3652]

Great questions, a lot of good info here!

[@Rob2628]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dethtron]

They keep referring to “the community” as if Rob doesn’t currently have one of the largest D4 audiences as a streamer. I think it’s a pretty safe bet if Rob is bringing it up, his sentiments match that of the D4 community as a whole.

[@rofltrance]

Having your merc get boss blasted then out for 45 seconds feels bad. Unless the merc is quite tanky, I hope they consider shortening that time.

[@MyN0N4M3]

Tbh mercs just shouldn't die. Or at least make it so that they always share your hp pool. So if you go down, your merc goes down. The other alternative is that it is down 45 sec, it is up a few seconds and then it is down 45 sec again. There's a reason why most ppl in D3 just ran with the companion items that made them immortal

[@roberthowarth5515]

The party finder system sounds a lot better than the D3 one

[@AtomosFr]

Community D3 system is the best. But party finder is almost useless yes.

[@DevilWolf000]

Community finder in an ARPG game LMAO.

[@liainar2997]

Great questions, but I feel there was a lot of interrupting going on during the interview. Something to think about for future interviews. Good stuffs. Looking forward to more content.

[@gr4ndm4st3rbl4akk]

Yeah I came in to comment on this too, it's really frustrating, when interviewing you need to let people finish their sentences without interrupting them. The jokes are not it. Great content otherwise

[@Guwapanese]

Literally when they were about to say more information he kept cutting them off.

[@liainar2997]

Let me be clear. I don't mean this an insult. It's intended to be constructive feedback. Anyone who responds to this, please respond constructively and don't be toxic about it. That's not what I was going for and if it came off that way I apologize.

[@liainar2997]

@@Guwapanese I understand. While I personally wouldn't call this a toxic or problematic way to respond to my post. I'd encourage you to try and be more careful how you respond to something like this. I can see how one might take this as an "attack or insult". Again I don't believe this is your intent. I just don't want to be the cause of a spiral into toxic takes from others.

[@Guwapanese]

@@liainar2997 😂 bro what

[@helioselexandros]

Im 43yo and i remember when diablo came out. I didnt hava a pc and i always wanted to play it but never got to. I started d4 in season 3 and ive absolitely loved it. Im so excited about tje expansion it releases day ater my bday im taking day off and playing that shit all day and night. I cant wait

[@michelesilvestri7564]

Spiritborn is an amazing class, so cool character, beautiful abilities and the gameplay looks the best part of the class. I love it, can’t wait for October to come.

[@UltracoreUltraUranium]

A change that is welcome…SpiritBorn can ONLY equip 2 handers. I really like this idea because it stops community complaints about limiting builds due to options. Ironic/hypocritical I know, but NOT thinking many times = FUN FASTER. I like not having to temper uniques. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MawxDesigns]

Better information than came out at the conference! Way to be prepared bro you did amazing on the interview!

[@brainlet5353]

That's our Beavis

[@ixpetz]

We need a dps meter , loot filter and more end game content.

[@XKobe]

leaderboards too

[@AcrossTheSea12]

Map overlay pls God Also fix / improve attack in place

[@lesbiehonest8914]

Dps would be awesome i love refining things and seeing the numbers to really know.

[@Shiipost000]

they didn't want to add a DPS-Meter because of ''toxicity'' but atleast a DPS-Meter at the dummies would be cool... or a max damage stat ''when everything is perfect'' cc,crit etc.. when you hover above your Attack Power, or a dummies with an ms timer on how long to kill it, the dummies should obviously be able to get destroyed

[@Mesoz]

Not even really a meter, could just bring in the system torchlight infinite has with their dps dummy.

[@TheKobool]

The most fun part with mercs is the items. Nothing feels better then getting a GG for your merc in D2.

[@raizovile]

Sad part is everything asked is way better than the Campfire Streams where they pick dump ass questions or give us information we already knew so yea this should've been the Campfire stream way better info gg Rob.

[@JasperBouchard]

Thank you for asking all these questions. Great information and answers let’s goooo!

[@reroll9368]

Not being able to equip mercs is such a fail. That's most of the fun

[@derrickcall9307]

I really hope, at some point, someone talks about changes to existing classes other than spiritborn. Are we going to be stuck with the same boring builds or will there be some good changes for all of them to keep them viable?

[@gheygladiator]

Rob is talking 500mph and asking questions but answering them at the same time in a question form..like chill out brother, let them talk and explain lol

[@DualDier-YT]

"We spoke to our community" - my dude, Rob is one of the pillars of the community... great video, my man!

[@drawzor]

Good interview rob 👏 im looking forward to the next campfire chat 😊

[@bd2eazy]

Dude u killed it and the devs were great. Outstanding job

[@Steph1]

Boss: kills a mercenary Merc: I’m not dead, but I respect your damage so I will sit down for a while. Most badass burn in a battlefield 😂

[@sonoftristram]

The first time Rob actually called it undershitty 😂👍 That was a great interview now I'm looking forward to the campfire and PTR!

[@Germaximus]

it's crazy that none of these devs have played the previous versions of Diablo in the series

[@audriusg1536]

KNowing it will be a little bit more than a month left to launch S6, wouldn't be surprised that they announce that PTR is starting right after Camp fire :D

[@mrjenchilada]

So happy with how the game has been recently. They have really turned the game around by listening and adjusting to the community. Really hope they win best community support this year

[@MrGeneralScar]

Nice... I noticed at 2:04 the return of the combo kills like D3, where you can potentially get an XP boost or some other short boost from chain killing. Was awesome chaining up like 200 kills in D3 at times. Kinda gives a bit of feedback to the mindless slaughter. At least I hope it would make a come back in some form. Group finder sounds interesting, game needs more social options.

[@incendio6548]

Hopefully the Dark Citadel does *not* have a weekly lockout like a typical WoW raid. Even if there are rotating weekly rewards (cosmetics?) I would like to be able to run the Dark Citadel multiple times each week on the same *and* different difficulty settings. I have yet to hear an interviewer ask this question :(

[@fr0d0b0ls0n]

Even if you do, there's no more rewards until next week it seems.

[@Mesoz]

@@fr0d0b0ls0n Which is still fairly lame, daily or weekly lockouts don't belong in an arpg, this is not a mmorpg. People play arpgs to grind for loot. items, ect. Having content or rewards locked behind a time gate is stupid.

[@saintanubis6177]

Great questions Rob! Now.....how can we give the devs feedback on an Auction House? Asap

[@Rob2628]

I guess mainly on the forums - I keep bringing it out as I thinking is very important for the game. Poe2 is building an auction house aswell

[@Longie]

So beat the boss and get his helm. Like grim dawn and the crate. Not just a transmog, sounds exciting

[@Rob2628]

Totally- great concept idea 👍🏻

[@DaddySenpai35]

Hyped for the new expansion and season 😮😮

[@thefifthhorsemanv143]

Unfortunately with what she was saying, it sound like you will still have to port somewhere in the DCitadel to sell/trash gear. Honestly something I hope they add down the line, is out of combat being able to summon smiths and a little goblin shop keep.

[@Stephano999]

Good job on asking them for vendors, the only thing that pisses me of in game right now is having to sell every 2 runs after uber boss kill

[@DukieGuy]

Difficulty systems sounds like Diablo 3's torment system so that sounds like a it's going to add some real challenge for those are looking for it. Super excited to see that in action!

[@Ansieh]

Thanks for bringing up the issue about disappearing mythic uniques. My wife lost two mythic helms from running tormented boss multiple times. Also i hope blizzard can incorporate clan priority when using the new LFG option. I feel that once the LFG feature comes out my clan member engagement will decrease because everyone will just be using LFG feature

[@MrDigitop]

Man you forgot to ask about my #1 greatest news about this new reveal thing, the scroll of re-tempering, and I seriously hope this is not limited to the 2-players raid.

[@matthewburt8632]

They said it has a chance to drop as well but it's guaranteed from raid (I think)

[@jpncompany6275]

Really good interview. I like how you address the important questions.

[@Rob2628]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ryvyr]

Per cat skins, 11:12 "Again you're gonna find the premium version of those in shop but a lot of the base content you will get just by playing the game" Naturally, the OGs, for better and worse, are mostly gone and this is the firmly established profit-over-all-consideration Blizzard

[@larrykenneybrew6632]

if progression and the paragon board makes it so that player skills can buff and or boost team/ party members in any way ill be sold

[@thefifthhorsemanv143]

It would be really awesome if the reinforcement can apply poison or shadow, and have it count as your dmg; to proc the max for Tal rasha's on Sorc.

[@rikachiu]

Party finder for uber bosses is cool, but they better have a black list system for scammers or make us pay the mats to join the group or something.

[@_Havel]

When an auction house?

[@edindizdarevic8414]

great questions bro, keep up the great work!!

[@itzgin3290]

They need to have a section just for boss materials.

[@scottynoes]

That’s probably what the “key” tab they added is for…

[@robbiemckane9474]

Wonder how we’re gonna be able to control the mercs on console because all the buttons are already used up, maybe they just do their buffs and attacks automatically? That wouldn’t necessarily make sense though so i’m curious how they’ll work that

[@samuelfigueroa9094]

Awesome job on this video Rob. Thumbs up for brother. More stash space is all that I needed to hear bro. The thing is.... certain classes In D4 has many ways for build classes to be created to whatever skills your building upon on. For example the sorcerer, lots of players prefer to have a straight build for fire, cold and lightning. So inventory space pages are needed because of not only to hold legendary, unique or Ober items but to also hold material items like potions and Boss mats. But by that being said is that we really need the cabinet gear class storage like in Diablo 3. Til this day D3 still remains to be an outstanding game with players leaving it and playing other games and in some point in time they occasionally return back and return back and enjoy their old classes but they still play great and still powerful. D4 is moving forward to be behind or beside Warcraft, Final Fantasy and Lost Arc. Even the cosmetics is looking very sharp in detail like the other games I've mentioned. Also a special thanks to all streamers and players who bring out and showed how truly awesome and entertaining the sorcerer is to play with. Sorcerer had all types of skills all over the screen from players running their best builds. Last season was just too many barbarians and necromancer. Players was just wanting OP builds only. Actually made the game dull and boring, but seeing a refreshing mix of classes on screen and many skills going off on screens and players running companions made the game just too sweet. LOL.... This is not a complaint for Rob or Blizzard but just storages space and the storages of gear in the cabinet and FINALLY.... Blizzard. D4 has gotten too many improvements, lots of scaling and adjustments in power and gear...... Now the problem here is that D4 has gotten bigger or I think larger than what Tier 4 holds us at. It's time to go back to base like Diablo 3 and start slowly raising the world Tier cap. Do not screw your game because your trying to reinvent the wheel, no no no, just like D3 it started with a few world tiers but within time it ended up from Tier 1 to Tier 16 then the rifts came into play allowing the players to go as high as they wanna go. Many choose rift 100, some 125 and the true masters of D3 running 150 rifts. So the game is great, improvements can be made and classes being scaled to an evenly balance but not to nerf much, only where needed when it's too extreme, but enough that it doesn't destroy the foundation that's already applied to D4 with updates. So what remains is we're stuck on world Tier 4 and no place to go. As the game is progressing in power and powerful Uniques and Ubers but we have no place to go. The horde mode is one of the greatest things that Blizzard added to the game. Hopefully that stays in the game permanently and doesn't go away. Good job on that one. It just needs also higher difficulty also. So Blizzard when you approach world Tier level increase just take in thought what D3 went thru in time from torment 1 to t16, then the rifts take over after that. Sorry Rob for all this, work has been busy and crazy but also people walking out and quitting. Lots of their work falls on me. So I have little time to comment on videos when needed. But I thought this video yours was just right to put my thoughts in there. Awesome job Rob, hopefully you've cleaned out the food buffet at their expense 😂 Keep making great info updates on D4.

[@Guwapanese]

Can we automatically get gear and Ubers in PTR? Grinding for it seems pointless

[@GW2KillerBEE]

Redoing the WHOLE levelling system???? LOVE IT.................

[@Wylde_Starr]

If they truly are about community response, the next expansion HAS to have a holy class LOL

[@arthas_stormr8ge877]

It’s apparent that these 2 devs don’t play endgame. You can’t sacrifice all your survivability for dmg in end game stuff it’s just not feasible. If you can’t stay alive you can’t do dmg, plus you only get 2 deaths in infernal hordes… which sucks! I think 3 would have been a bit better.

[@nickc9223]

Thanks Beavis

[@Araturion]

They said that you should be able to do everything solo in Diablo 4. 1 year later they add content you can't do solo. But they don't want to add an auction house so players can trade in the game. If I wanted to do raids I would still be playing wow.

[@gapeto0770]

Just make the mercenary not die, Going to make people hate them having to rez them all the time since you guys didn't give them changeable items, No one plays on normal difficulty level just to keep their mercenary from dying.

[@jujuyago]

She said they don't. They just kneel and probably go back up

[@kevinmann2154]

Good interview Rob and blizz please add a loot filter or vendor for the boss rotation, I spend as much time in loading screens as before boss respawn was added and we need in game trading system as well.

[@Bosnerdly]

Whose idea was it to put that giant, creepy face on the wall of the hotel room?! Nevertheless, thanks for bringing us the Diablo news!

[@crackflush]

Bro tell blizzard to make a camera between the far and very close camera view

[@ivanrosseto9494]

a vendor / blacksmith in the tormented bosses would be nice haha

[@onyxcitadel9759]

If you are familiar with THe Division 2.. it's Shepherd system.. i wish Diablo 4 had that.. and then random players can call for help and you can become a shepherd and assist a player than went down or jsut wants to party with some1 who can help them for some activities or tasks.. It had a system where you gain Shepherd Xp and levels for it which others players could see so they knew if you helped alot of other players.

[@jerison7833]

2 weeks after launch, Rob will be doing billions of damage with the mercenary only 😂

[@garycannon2887]

Still need a loot filter for tormented bosses and helltide

[@Longie]

Also confirmed torment 1 is wt5 essentially

[@bnreta12]

They made it sound like there is more than 1 torment difficulty

[@simonwest6002]

Wish you asked them why they dont disable the stash loading issue.

[@kupwav]

Fantastic interview!! So many of my own questions were answered. Thanks, Rob!

[@CJM738]

Love the questions cant wait for Thursday

[@stevenernst4057]

Can you ask them if they r going to fix the people that have done over 200 tormented boss runs and has never got a mythic to drop thx

[@Br3576]

200 runs at a 2% drop chance and 5 chances per kill is a 99.99999983% probability of getting a mythic unique. Either you’re exceptionally unlucky or you’re full of shit/exaggerating

[@raymondvandenbos1271]

I really believe him i did 200+ runs with a party of 4. I got 16 ubers another friend got 10 my 3rd friend got 8 and the last one didnt got a thing

[@Lagalpb]

I think it's possible to go over 200 kills without a single drop, I went over 100 kills without 1 in S3. This season, I got extremely lucky and got like 15 drops in a small amount of kills, including 2 in a single kill.

[@VirusTechKEKW]

So, we're like ditching World Tiers and we're moving to Torment difficulty again? I don't mind, but.. hmm

[@PizzaTime727]

Wouldn't mind a gold only Auction House to speed things up. Post it and get back to the action.

[@facE055]

I agree but also the current system only takes like 30 seconds once you're used to it.

[@simonwest6002]

an issue I hear when they talk, is they refer to 'their community' which is referring to the people they flew out. All of them are streamers etc which is not your average player and these two demographics want very different things so who are they actually making this game for

[@raky76]

They should just spawn a stash storage chest after boss kill

[@dukenukem2480]

Is deathblow Barb or unheavel hellhammer barb worth anything? Or is it whirlwind or bust?

[@quitwastinmytime]

Really surprised they gave so much away before the livestream. Also amused that you talk so fast you got about an hour out of that 20 minutes. Rob, you always have a falback career doing the legal disclaimers at the end of radio ads. Not sure if they do that in Germany though. You might have to move to the U.S.

[@josephapple1517]

Thank you for your dedication to this game! Awesome info that we have been itching for.

[@Blacknight200]

Ive slowly been switching to using steam more often than battlenet, by chance is D4 ptr offered on steam too?

[@dantete5087]

thank you for your job Rob:)

[@romanchongy9353]

Great work, to the point. Can i ask how many points you have in your talk speed bonus? ;)

[@thomasclayton3284]

They mentioned Torment 1 and base difficulty levels.. So we're gonna get torment level X helltides then?

[@Gholladay]

Honestly this video just made blizzard money. I was on the fence about vassal of hatred, but after this video I’m gonna go ahead and buy it.

[@jasonrice6966]

Can't wait to play this. New content sounds very interesting. Should have told them to buff barbs. We got done dirty!

[@makarsk]

Is there a written summary?

[@Witchblade7]

Mostly exciting news I'm really hyped, the only thing that scares me is the new torment system, hope it doesn't become something like D3's late torments like 30 different bloated difficulty setting.

[@greedmiser8414]

Naa, u only used T6, T10/T13, and T16

[@jfitz1982]

Pit 20 to open Torment 1, so I guess no more Fallen Temple capstone, or maybe it's a different world tier?

[@Mesoz]

Pit 15 to open torment 1 of the dark citadel. Still going to have capstones I believe. Saying that though, capstones, sacred, ancestral gear, ect, probably needs an entire overhaul since anything before wt4 doesn't matter.

[@carletongrasty884]

Excellent interview Rob!! You addressed the important questions that the D4 community has been asking since season 0, and got those two to talk about season 6/expansion and discuss info they can talk about till the 29th during the campfire. If this D4 content creator thing doesn't work out, you have a bright career in investigative journalism. Thanks for being a voice for the D4 community.

[@alastair-r3676]

What does it take to get the car around the track, erm simple basic driving skills wheels are on the track.

[@SozoKratos]

As usual an awesome video!

[@Rob2628]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@rodrigoezequielmourino8857]

He said we are going to have two more new classes? or two more slots? KZbin translation is not very good. 😅

[@erickp4781]

thank you! vielen dank!

[@BADiesel]

Why don’t they just allow us to salvage from our inventory already, so we don’t have to keep going back to town after every boss kill to salvage… console you got pretty much no choice but to grab everything because you can’t pick what you want to grab like PC

[@Treehunter24]

Wtf I want my mercenary to wield a grandpappa they should 1000% be able to equip items!

[@MrMuggsly]

This is great Rob definitely new information. Sort of annoying listening to the blizzard corpo double speak but there are definitely some great nuggets of information in there

[@TheKobool]

They should just copy last epoch when it comes to trading. Make one ssf with more loot and one trade League with a AH.

[@MashPoToToy]

Hope they'll add black market so we can sell gears and mats

[@Viz79]

Amazing work Rob!!

[@Affliction69420]

👍 33 out of 333 views! 😈 I'm worried about how level progression will work in the future! But hope to see Diablo 4 keep growing and going in the right direction!

[@Martin444444444]

same as always... you put down mobs and you gain exp and you fill up the exp bar.