New Honda Transalp OR Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE | Which Is BEST??

[@rhamjasrami3900]

Suzuki gave a gift to us in the aftermarket - the muffler is huge, which is why it's so quiet, but the catalytic converters look tiny, there's barely any breadbox under the engine. Yank off the muffler, put on a cheap aftermarket slip on, you're down 8KGs and it'll totally wake up. It's the same with the SV650.

[@williamrae9954]

Fully stripped back V-Strom 800,with all the offroad mods done(18" rear wheel included) from Hessler, 238kg(Inc.14kg of fuel),Transalp modded the same,similar weight, but with only 11.2kg of fuel. A decat, and further pairing back, it should be possible to get to 199kg dry?

[@F3udF1st]

Why would you? A silent exhaust is a superior exhaust.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@F3udF1st for the weight. I did smth similar on my 19 650 XT strom, changed the exhaust and the battery for lithium, gained 7 kilos. But honestly OP, gaining 8 kilos by just changing the pipe with a legal one at least, sounds really optimistic. More like 4 maybe 5 maximum if the original is indeed really heavy. Hessler btw uses the arrow system and on my V strom with that exhaust I gained about 3.6 kilos.

[@williamrae9954]

@@F3udF1st As an international truck driver, I can tell you,that's not true...I'm more likely to hear you than see you on the Perpherique around Paris, where I drive once a week!(RHD truck).

[@rhamjasrami3900]

@@F3udF1st Well then looks like they nailed it for the people who like quiet bikes :)

[@dwahnaslowdown8887]

I've owned two DL650s which I considered to be "pretend" adventure bikes. I liked them for their upright rider position, good visibility, and the wonderfully smooth v-twin. They were easier on my old hips and knees than most other types. Of these two, I think I would choose the Transalp. I like the styling better, and I ride 98% on road anyway. Fun video to watch, BTW.

[@flippy66]

The DL650 is primarily a road bike, it doesn't really pretend to be anything else.

[@divebobber]

Plus, you might be able to pick up the Honda. Not too sure about the DL.

[@dalemeadows225]

I love the little peak at the front of the Suzuki. Very good looking bike

[@r6ymy]

Good comparison. I wouldn't be bothered about not having hand guards and a bash plate as standard, as the bits you get are usually a joke, and get replaced straight away.

[@andymcclurg9524]

Absolutely bang on , I never order oem parts anyway, always shit quality, buy base and add yourself, unless quickshifter

[@jamesmegill]

I would definitely take the Suzuki. Fully adjustable suspension is big deal. When dialed in for your weight, a bike becomes amazing! IMHO. Plus the magic carpet ride of longer suspension is just lovely in the real world. Nice job on the reviews! No shade to the Honda. Looks like a great bike too!

[@jaspreetbains2776]

Just rode both back to back in Oz . Suzuki hands down and I'm a Honda fanatic

[@chriskneifl3290]

What did you like better about the Suzuki? I've ridden it but not the Transalp.

[@jaspreetbains2776]

@@chriskneifl3290 smoother power delivery of the engine and riding position for me being six foot 1 on the Suzuki. Both very important for this style of bike to me and my age of 50 plus

[@theonenizz]

I just did the same thing. But for me its the other way around. Shows how important a test ride is =)

[@graemewelch123]

​@@jaspreetbains2776I looked at both in Oz. But no lcd on the suzuki?

[@doublex632]

It's a great design by Suzuki that you can actually see where you're going on a trail, no massive fairing to look over. Thanks

[@rcvg69420]

Man I really like the look of these Suzuki's. It's on my shortlist. Enough power and gear to supercruise on the highway at 75mph + plush suspension. Be a welcome change from the well uh slow and firm CB500X I'm riding now.

[@flexywing]

check the "new" 800 RE thats looks even better for the road

[@SkuStyle]

Out of the two adv bikes, Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE is the one to have!

[@zach_6297]

More expensive and heavier with worse road manners. Seems like a bad choice

[@richardsalsman1069]

I really like this format. Great to get the quick switches from bike to bike it’s a more direct comparison plus two opinions instead of one. Well done.

[@cranedaddy678]

Your "grunt" test race is really telling and one reason I went with the Suzuki. Coming from a cruiser background I really like having the power on demand in low and mid range over having to spin up the motor to red line to get my power. It is definitely a hard choice and if money was no concern I think I would have both plus hundreds more bikes in my garage because there are so many good bikes available these days.

[@RuggedEarthMan]

Yes! Get the 800 DE out there with the Twin. I'll probably end up with one of those two early next year.

[@petergruening2893]

Love these comparison videos, being from Canada it's almost impossible to get a test ride, so your comparisons really help! thanks and keep up the great content

[@_audacerider3838]

Boys epic stuff as usual! Having Gregorio in the video is always plus cause your interaction is very natural. Just two Mates talking about bikes! Keep it coming!!

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks matey!! :-)

[@martyndunn1905]

What a great comparison video, you and gregorio make a great team. I'm with you chops for me it would be the V-Strom, great looking bike and that colour scheme is beautiful. Personally the honda looks like a baby Africa twin which I'm not a fan of to be honest. I was out the other day and saw the V-Strom 10.50de, what an amazing looking bike. Well done guys, can't wait for the next comparison video.

[@jmsmikey]

Congratulations! The first head to head on these two~ it will be VERY interesting what Yamaha does with a possible Tenere 900

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Mikey!! Yes Tenere would be good in the mix as would the Aprilia

[@ComfyDadShoes]

I swore off Honda after owning the vfr1200x, but I sat in a transalp that fit like a glove, so I’m open to Honda again. However, the new v-strom is so beautiful and was also so comfortable, I would still take it if the right deal presented itself.

[@YukonC8t]

Best review I've seen Awesome job guys. USA, picking up a Transalp tomorrow. Super excited.

[@marshallfischer3667]

Well do you like it?

[@cloud9847]

Liked and Sub'd. I can't thank you guys enough for the review. I'm riding 136 miles tomorrow to hopefully test ride a 800DE that's on sale right now. I've had my eye on a Transalp but with the price difference on sale and the performance difference off road - it'll be enough to sway me. This review was EXCELLENT.

[@GCTO239]

I bought a Transalp and it has blown me away. What a great bike!

[@marcochavane3124]

Congratulations! Bet it's a blast. I got tired of waiting for one here in the US. They didn't confirm it was coming here so I ended up with a Norden 901. Choice #2 was an Africa Twin but they aren't releasing 2023 ATs in the US either. No dealerships could get one and Honda would cancel pre-orders with no explanation. The dealerships later said "unofficially" that Honda was skipping this year in the US market so I would either need to wait indefinitely or choose something else. Honda corporate really needs to work on their communication skills. Definitely cost them a sale with me.

[@trailrider1980]

​@@marcochavane3124how are you liking the norden?

[@GCTO239]

@domasvosylius4349 agreed, bro. So much BS has been witten and I couldn't care less. No regrets at all. I also got a really good deal on the bike...the suberb quickshifter and first service included.

[@marcochavane3124]

@@trailrider1980 it's an incredible bike. Everyone that's ridden it wants one. Gives you 600cc sport bike performance on the road and is just as capable as a Tenere 700 off-road.

[@Deertracks123]

Haven't liked A Suzuki since the Rm 250s but this bike definitely worth a test ride

[@mikelobdell2666]

I like where the Suzuki makes it's power lower in the range. In my opinion much more useable in day to day riding.

[@johncummins3860]

True, but a Honda NC750X is even better and spend the the money you have saved on purchase on topnotch suspension upgrade - best alround adventure tourer !!

[@johntapley2549]

I bought the Transalp. Its definately a fun bike to ride. Very comfortable. I agree about the footpegs being too far forward. There's a big weight differnce between these two bikes too, which probably helped the Honda on the acceleration test.

[@keithsbitsandpieces]

I test rode the transalp recently and the hornet a couple of weeks back Wow that engine, What a peach Provide one of THE best engines on the market today .. Greg , have you tried the Hornet yet ? If not , You WILL love it 😊

[@JDeezle21]

Team Suzuki ❤

[@Ritalie]

The Honda Transalp is the best sounding ADV bike ever made. There's nothing else that sounds as good with a fully stock exhaust. It's absolutely insanely awesome sounding. There are entire segments of reviews just doing sound performance drive by's to hear the beautiful sound.

[@Brankas]

africa twin? triumph tiger ?

[@tantrikdoka5376]

With Transalp, you get the option to swap its tubed wheels with the Africa Twin tubeless wheels.

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

I’ll make it easy -Tubeless tires, (because tubes are for dirt bikes that have a rescue vehicle nearby). -No more ground clearance/high center of gravity than necessary for the actual riding you will do. Long travel suspension sounds great until you have to pick it up

[@rodrigopacas9413]

As always, excellent material! Lamb Chop Rides Rock! In my opinion, both motorcycles are excellent options! I think that the price of the Honda Transalp would be higher than the Vstrom if it had as standard similar suspension, hand guards, quick shifter and engine protector..... also, with all those options as standard on the Honda, the weight diference would be less.

[@ckgaming7369]

Thanks for the review boys, they look like great bikes for the price. My pick goes with suzuki by a hair as i like the dirt but the only thing that annoys me with both of these bikes is a lack of OEM cruise control... that seems the only omission on face value that would add value to a long cruise down the highway.

[@chadkline4268]

You can get a good throttle lock for $30.

[@ckgaming7369]

@@chadkline4268 yes you can but not quite the same as factory cruise. It feels more like a manufacturer decision to sell more 1050's as a "true" adventure bike. I don't understand why they don't have an option on the 800.

[@chadkline4268]

​@@ckgaming7369 I don't think it's so simple. First, people would not be happy with a simple lock. They would want speed maintenance so that the bike maintains speed up and down hills. And that means a much greater expense. At least, another throttle controller. Then, there is liability concerns such as being accused of the auto throttle control not turning off fast enough to prevent an accident. That is why some mfrs go so far as to couple cruise control with radar sensors to prevent collisions. And costs can skyrocket when a mfrs takes responsibility for the auto control of a bike. They might need to add tilt sensors so unreasonable speeds are not maintained around sharp curves, etc. It can get complex very quickly. Maybe you want a brake sensor to turn off the cruise control, etc.

[@ckgaming7369]

@@chadkline4268 if you look across the brands, I agree it adds cost and complexity, but BMW does offer this option for their mid tier bikes for not much more.

[@CraigSmith568]

Harley offers it for $250 so I'm sure these companies could do it for less. It's a lot easier with these bikes today being throttle by wire.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Two sweet bikes. Love the VStrom in the gray & yellow. 🤩 Good to see them both on your green lanes.

[@johndavy8801]

Fabulous group test boyz with all bases covered in a fun way,I’m mostly a road rider doing occasional tours & never really touch the dirt so I’ll best booking a demo ride on the Transalp. Keep up the great work Boys.

[@simonbowen6653]

Great side by side review. Honda seems to have pitched the TransAlp where they know the majority of buyers will use it. As a previous owner of an adventure bike how often do they actually go off road?

[@IAmYourReflection]

Depends on the rider and their location. Mine sees mostly dirt roads

[@alphawolf2993]

Yea depends where you live. I live in the mountains of western Canada and have a dual sport and an adv bike. Adv bike still spends half its life offroad!

[@ozzyg82]

If the 800 DE is anything like my new Suzuki 8S, it’ll be a great bike - I couldn’t be more pleased with the 8S, it’s a frikkin beaut.

[@RiseRyder]

Such a great video. Not just the specs but how does it feel. Also the voice audio is so much better than most videos. great job.

[@LambChopRides]

Much appreciated! 😁👍

[@martinhughes9769]

Great comparison, Honda is a lovely looking machine so is the suzuki , I'm not a lover of that end can on the suzuki doesn't look as good has the Honda, The conversation between you always brings a smile

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Martin! :-)

[@Cheezmonka]

I'm only 5' 8.5" tall amd 160lbs. If my legs were a couple of inches longer, I'd take the Suzuki in a heartbeat. But at my height and weight the Honda just makes way more sense. I'm on a V-Strom 650XT right now and that damn Honda is even lighter than that! Crazy.

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

That V-Strom seems super fun off-road cruiser. Just needs a can, air filter and a map by the sounds of it. Never thought I'd ever want one of these, but I'd consider it lol Feck, is this what turning 40+ is about? MW Semi-soft bikes? Soft-semis already. Christ lol 😂

[@LambChopRides]

Yes same here! I'm really missing it now it's gone back 😫

[@EasyGravy420]

40years here, just finished 5 days 2600+ miles on my 2021 1250gsa.. now I think i want a vstrom setup

[@wwfww]

I will tell you what, recently suzuki and kawaski have been the Japanese brands that listen to the consumers the most and keep their ethos

[@florme6494]

Suzuki for me. I think only the price sells the Honda. But that is a personal opinion. The character in the engine might also sell a few but anything else goes to the Suzuki. If you want the Suzuki to be lighter put less fuel in. Plus it’s said it doesn’t feel its weight by reviewers.

[@miroslavstanchev4758]

Perfect comparison. Waiting for 1050de vs the africa twin. Keep it up!

[@sumo_steve45]

Excellent video!! This comparison was exactly what I was looking for.

[@antonoat]

Great review guys, what a choice, grunt or top end, but Hondas rarely go wrong in any respect, you pays your money and takes your choice! 👏👍😀

[@shmac96]

YES! FInally! Yours is the first comparison between these two that Ive seen. Thank you sirs!

[@LambChopRides]

No problem 👍👍

[@nikolasharvey]

Based on looks alone I would choose the Suzuki.A Transalp came past me a couple of days ago and the only reason I knew it was a transalp was not because of its looks but because it was the white,red and blue colour way.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

thing is the suzi looks better in real life, don't know about the transalp.

[@roadwarrior8560]

@@ioandragulescu6063 Suzuki looks ugly in real life, great engine though.

[@wirenut3020]

I’m 180 degrees the other direction. I think the Red, White and Blue Transalp looks very nice. The Suzuki looks uninspired with the atypical beak in front.

[@bobo1793]

@@wirenut3020 same, I can't seem to like the beak design as much, it's not bad, just meh.

[@67daltonknox]

Neither has cruise control, so they're both out. These days all bikes that have any long distance pretensions need it and since most are drive by wire anyway, it wouldn't add $50 to the retail price. Let's face it, the last time I drove a car without CC was over 30 years ago and it was a pain.

[@kaseyod113]

Been waiting for this side by side. Thanks for putting this together! Really enjoyed it. I guess I’ll just have to ride them both once (if) the TransAlp makes it to the states. Currently riding a 2017 Vstrom 650

[@danielhoskins976]

I agree! I have the 2017 V-Strom 650, also, and frankly it’s capable of most anything that I’m willing to do-(off highway and on a heavier bike than my trail bike). I’ve bashed my ‘bash-plate’ a couple of times, but that’s why I installed it. I LOVE the looks of this TransAlp- but the look doesn’t make the ‘ride’! These both look like great bikes!

[@danielhoskins976]

I just returned from a 2,000 mile ride into Western Canada; 3 of us on ADV’s (CB500X, & Honda DCT Africa Twin) and my bother, on a Gold Wing & 2 close friends on Victory & Indian tourers- (so all on pavement). I’d LOVE to try that same ride on either of these bikes! Our 5th or 6th trip up there; Canada and the people are both awesome!!

[@dannyaustin84]

Great video. Thanks. I like these bikes. Africa twin, GS1250.... Lovely but so much more than I'll ever want or need. 80hp is about right for me and I think these occupy a section in the market that that'll do well. I like that you didn't just list all the stats. Super. My choice would be Suzuki.

[@cecilwilson5442]

Brilliant stuff real world thinking 🤔 biggest thing is both of you are good riders and honest in the reviews of the bikes ,, really enjoyed it 😁☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Cecil 👍

[@brucekendall52]

Such a great realistic comparison.Thanks.

[@hdidane00]

Transalp all day long for me . they have a new aftermarket 220mm suspension for it that would make it on par with other adjustable suspensions out there. Plus the Honda looks much better.i would even pick it over the T7. 09 HP for 208 KG hard to beat for that price point. Honda nailed it with this bike i'm on the wait list here in US to grab one. Great video guys.

[@FairladyS130]

Buyer here, considering only V twins for their character, smoothness and sound.

[@Merc399]

they were neck and neck on the roll on! the suzuki and seemed better off-road and almost as good on road enough to be the better value

[@ownyourworld]

Test rode a tenere, transalp but I’ve ordered a vstrom 👍🏻

[@neiloevocati]

Happy to have come across you Gentleman, you certainly have made it easy to choose, my 6 ft 220 lbs carcass would certainly prefer the Suzuki...Great vid!

[@MrAndrew1953]

At the moment it’s 8.9C in Melbourne,Australia. Probably the Suzuki as it’s better off road and that would encourage me to get out onto grave roads more often. Maybe to the extent I’d put more aggressive off road tyres on the Suzuki.

[@shinysideup2289]

Beautiful. Like a summer's day here in the UK most of the time 😁

[@IRQ1Conflict]

Was gonna say, that's definitely the spring here in Alberta. Anything above 10c is a blessed event. 🤣

[@davidnobular9220]

@@shinysideup2289 Haha !! I was there in the 90s and it hadn't rained for a week in London....they started talking about drought on the news.... I Laughed So Much I Rolled In My Own Wee (ILSMIRIMOW).....And it was a pleasant 28 degrees too.

[@shinysideup2289]

@@davidnobular9220 The weather was a pleasant 28 degrees or your wee was?

[@davidnobular9220]

@@shinysideup2289 First one, then the other :)

[@alanpark7839]

Great test, you gave an honest comparisons and opinions, very enjoyable to watch

[@bobsyeruncle4841]

I had the old vstrom 650 which was a bit boring in this case its Honda all the way, another nice review Chopsy all the best.

[@honzalk2931]

And did you had the old Transalp? It was double much boring than the old 650 V-Strom.. Dont compare old machines by choosing a new one. The new are totaly different than the old.. And be honest, nice “agressive”sound is good for “just for fun around the house” way, but for comfortable long distance travelling is silent engine with more power in lower torques much more better.. For me definitely V-Strom ❤.

[@Sport-ns5lk]

I live in northern Wisconsin USA, waiting for this transalp to get to Us ….. not sure why they delay models in either side of the water? The adventure segment is only growing in the US so again why the delay. Anyway great video and info !

[@paulnorman8274]

Anyone tested these with a meaningful load of luggage in cases AND top box? Does the Honda's "more road biased", presumably stiffer, suspension, make up for the Suzukis greater adjustability? On paper, the Suzuki's remote rear preload is a HUGE benefit on a bike like this. Over time, with a bit of tinkering, you'd think ditto its ability to adjust damping at both ends and both directions. But its greater travel may also mean it will struggle more with controlling a Buch of additional weight and awkward aero hung at the very rear of the bike and beyond. While luggageless handling is nice for days when you just want to go out for a quick ride; for this class of bike, I believe how it keeps up its composure with luggage, is more generally relevant. Among long travel ADV bikes, that had generally been a strength of the GS. And perhaps even more obviously of the Super Tenere, which is a bit dead and cumbersome unloaded, but really comes into its own when loaded down heavy enough that the rest starts getting wonky.

[@carlospinzon9842]

Awesome video, cheers from Texas 🤠🍻

[@RudigerKaiser-st9vg]

You Guys are bringig everything to the point. Great test from crzy riders. Thanx for this Test 👍👍👍

[@stinkerdoodle1737]

Chops love the bike comparisons and Greg is a natural keep up the good work.👍👍

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks 👍

[@kalaharimine]

Honda have hit this for a six, on quality, price, power and wind protection. Would have preferred with hand and sump guards, and without all the electronic mode and flat screen gimmicks.

[@emfl4437]

Both seem like great bikes, I wouldn't kick either out of my garage 🏍️🙌

[@jamesschneider3828]

Honda exhaust is way better looking but Suzukies is probably better for off road but both could use an aftermarket upgrade. Suzuki with cruise control will definatly win for road use. I also like the mid rpm torque of the Suzuki looks really practical for passing. I'd like to know what 70mph rpm's are and witch is smoother at that speed as here in USA would be ridden a lot. Its really nice to see that they haven't gone overboard on the tft displays.

[@sebasbecu]

Great comparison . Next one include the new (cheap?) Ktm 790 , that would be an interesting comparison ! Thanks for this one !

[@grenphelps7455]

I don't think that the transalp is really designed for off road, have you seen the design of the sump 😅

[@Alastairtheduke1]

Best comparison on these two bikes on youtube

[@jasoncochran853]

Glad you guys had a good time. Funny comantarry enjoyed watching and laughing with you, thanks.

[@LambChopRides]

Glad you enjoyed it 😁👍

[@bitterlifes]

Without a doubt allmost all of the advantages belong to Suzuki, except the weight and price goes for Honda!

[@luckybsd]

I am bit suprised about suzuki's pricing, cause here in CZ its opposite, if I buy transalp with quickshifter then vstrom 800 de is cheaper as they are similarly prised but transalp is rather basic while vstrom has some extras already there

[@jmanjman6548]

I like the look of the Suzuki

[@Denspi1969]

Can you just please answer simply for us. What is the better adv bike? Because you are comparing two adventure bikes. So happy to get your own preference of what bike you would buy but does not give me answer to the thumbnail comparing these new adventure bikes. Thank you

[@LambChopRides]

The bikes each have + & - you need to decide based on our finding which one suits you! Both are great bikes, but it will depend what you want to do with it as to which one you should buy.

[@ianlonsdale7021]

The suzuki is £10680 at my dealer yes it has lots of extras but do yo need a quick shifter . It should have been the cheaper option.

[@BlazinBlades]

You guys are consistent 🍻 Same conclusion back in the day between the Africa Twin and the 1050 XT Lets redo that comparison but now with the 1050 DE I really do think the Suzuki has a good chance of getting 2:0 😄😄 Thanks 🙏

[@LambChopRides]

Actually just editing the video now! Africa Twin vs 1050 DE 👍

[@BlazinBlades]

@@LambChopRides 😝 You guys are an open book 🤣 Fantastic!!!

[@darylclifford]

Chops has road bikes, leaving the need for the better off-roader, therefore he picks Suzuki. Greg preferred the Honda, a more on-road bike, with better gearbox and wind protection. That seems to be the reason for their choice of either bike. What do you think?

[@mylesputnam9407]

I have the 250de and a cb500x but love this video and find my 250 soo much easier to ride.

[@anxiousappliance]

The Honda the engine sounds like something I'd be interested in - good bottom end, but I love the high rev roll on...about when the Suzuki signs off. lighter and more agile too. The rest you can upgrade as you go along - but if you don't love the engine.. The suzuki definitely looks better though IMO.. Suzuki is coming out with a more road oriented 17/19 cst wheel version. Maybe they'll throw in a little engine spice.

[@ne-adv]

Maybe the typical street rider wants a loud exhaust, but when you get off road, you don't want to burn the forest or prairie down and you don't want to startle wildlife or those we share the trails with, like hikers, dog walkers, horses. My V-Strom 1000XT always gets a thumbs-up for being quiet from people. That loud exhaust is from the bygone days of NASCAR and Harley biker gangs. Modern times, we prefer stealth.

[@reinmansmith]

Excellent comparison between these two very closely matched bikes 👍

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks! 👍

[@ticthedog6095]

👍 great comparison review. Looks like you in West Sussex / South Downs, didn’t realise they had so many By Ways

[@nickrider5220]

At the start I thought you said you and Greg were the New Kids on the Block !! You would be doing yourselves an injustice btw 😂

[@jayzeebeezee7442]

Both are great useable bikes. Transalp for me though. Not much thought has gone into the looks of the Suzuki. Seems like it has been assembled from the parts bin. That's a subjective thing though.

[@bruceleong9534]

That was no help at all I’m afraid, as I’m not in the market for a middle weight adventure bike… But it was so much fun to watch! I caught myself giggling along with you and Greg on several occasions. Love the comparisons.

[@LambChopRides]

Great to hear! hehe :-)

[@philipchesters2824]

Cracking review gents.

[@koshtie]

Well done John & Greg top video from 2 top men, more asap, ATB Wayne ............

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks buddy 👍

[@saddle8bag]

The other fella cracked the code. Forget the spec sheets. Reviewers shouldn't even read them as it just creates confirmation bias in their heads before they even twist the throttle. First ride the bike, then read and babble about specs and overpriced race bike parts. If you're honest, you'll find that they not only double the cost, but make the ride on the street worse.

[@DenySmashinton]

Im getting my 800 tomorrow

[@TheDacane]

Interesting to me that suzuki repeated all the magic that originally made the africa twin great. Comfortable, suprisingly easy to ride off road for its weight, still fun on road. On the other hand honda built a 750cc vstrom 650, a bike that skimps on suspension quality, ground clearance, engine protection, and has a geometry making it very unforgiving off road, but is essentially an upright sport bike with ADV plastics.

[@mikeb9281]

Suzuki has a higher exhaust and that's what you'll need with any off road/flooded routes

[@billy4rocks]

Oh Lovely, wherabouts was that shot?

[@LambChopRides]

South downs buddy 👍

[@billy4rocks]

@@LambChopRides cheers!

[@martinrea8548]

Two great bikes there. Personally, I'd like to see Honda launch a retro style bike using this new 750 engine. That or I pick up a used bargain Transalp next year. Until then, I'll stick with my trusty Cb500f. 🏍👍

[@shaunlayton9814]

Great review that lads👍

[@Bugoutnow589]

Transalp is just a larger CB500X, if your planing of upgrading the Transalp at all, just buy the African twin. Transalp is a bike that’s not needed. Suzuki is a better product all day long over a Honda.

[@Martinooo19]

AT is much larger and heavier plus far more pricey than TA. New NX 500 is really nice but has only 48 hp here in Germany. Many go for the TA then, sells quite well over here.

[@davidd6091]

Fabulous review. Now get on with that H1. 😊

[@jarek916]

Interesting, would like to see bmw 850 gs in the test and see how they compare .

[@chrishart8548]

Not really any heavier the the 800de and has much more power. The tank is a little small. But the base price is comparable. Obviously a well speced f850gs can be as much as £16k

[@jarek916]

@@chrishart8548 thank you for responding. I think I'm finally ready to give up my K1300S for something with less power and more comfortable upright riding position.

[@chrishart8548]

@@jarek916 I was lusting after a K1300r after watching resident evil but I ended up with a f800gs I do love bmw bikes.

[@keinname629]

Suzuki engine is great. BMW has more vibration and is weaker from the start. Suzuki has good torque. BMW has adaptive suspension (which no one needs). Suzuki suspension can be adjusted when you need it. Drive modes on BMW are crap. Wind protection on BMW is better.

[@chrishart8548]

@keinname629 they don't all have adaptive suspension you have to option it. I though the suzuki was only adjustable for pre load on the rear.

[@roadstrom]

Gee talk about a premium price in the UK . The trans is $14500 /$7500 pounds in Australia.

[@joshr1444]

I choose the tuareg 660.

[@williamrae9954]

Good 3 way test,or 4,with the Tenere?

[@mrspeigle1]

My only complaint is the lack of cruise control. If I've got a long slab haul I want the ability to rest my right hand.

[@paulnorman8274]

CC is a lot less important at freeway speeds on a 80-90hp middleweight, than on a 1200. Once doing 60mph, exactly where the throttle is any given second, just doesn't matter so much on these, so you can rest your hand even without CC.

[@peppeamerica3051]

Great comparison guys!but may i ask you on weight and consumption witch one was better?and of course are there any engine vibes that could become annoing...thanks i think i.m going with the honda