NEW IKEA Parasoll and Vallhorn sensors

Ikea has announced 3 new devices and 2 of those were released in last few months.
Today we will look at IKEA Zigbee PARASOLL Door/Window sensor and VALLHORN Motion sensor.
See how they work (or not) with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT + Home Assistant
I've not touched pairing to end devices in video - this works great, because here we want to see how we can get entity states in our smart home!
00:00 - Intro
00:25 - NEW Ikea devices
01:03 - VALLHORN Motion sensor
05:04 - PARASOLL Door & Window sensor
09:45 - Final thoughts
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[@Jensen871]

I got 2 Vallhorn sensors in home assistant with zigbee2mqtt. They work fantastic and im blown away they cost so little. Highly recomend!

[@BeardedTinker]

Thanks for sharing

[@tiagodumont4422]

They are extremely slow at responding by industry standards though. Even their range is something like 2m at best. Yeah, they are cheap but you get what you pay for.

[@NepGangster]

I have 2 parasoll devices connected to Home Assistant through ZHA using a Conbee II. Interview did hang once on the first device, now that u metioned it but it works great for me. It has one sensor: opening. (closed or opened). also it shows battery in diagnostic, Identify, LQI and RSSI. They havent failed on me since i own them.

[@NepGangster]

Also, its very fast. I open the door and the light (also ikea bulb) is on instantly. I love them.

[@Saturn2888]

I bought these for fun. IKEA is about 20 minutes away, and I don't wanna buy items from Chinese companies, so this lined up. I didn't expect much, but it's cool that some of these work at all.

[@BeardedTinker]

It's great to have alternative to Chinese ones!

[@marcodegier6298]

thanks for the review! Does anyone know if illuminance values get reported independently of motion or only if motion is detected?

[@Saturn2888]

I have no clue you needed to press the link button 4 times in quick succession. The instructions said to hold for 10 seconds even on the remotes, but the 4-press of the link button fixed all my issues trying to link these!

[@BeardedTinker]

Holding for 10 seconds can be used to bind sensor to for example light or power outlet to directly control it.

[@Bigglare]

Just found two Vallhorn at my Charlotte NC, USA store. Can't beat the 8.99 price. Added readily to HA ZHA this morning with Lux, Occupancy and an Opening Entites. Lux Sensor working as expected.

[@BeardedTinker]

Support has been extended in ZHA over last few months. They should now work really well!

[@user-dr7ox7sr5h]

I have Ikea Vallhorn working just fine in Home Assistant with ZHA. Had some trouble installing a few of them, but when I tried again the next day they were installed with all values. They work best with Ikeas rechargeble batteries (1,2 v). Added comment: My Vallhorn has firmware 1.57, Home Assistant Sky connect.

[@BeardedTinker]

Thanks for sharing - mine is also on 1.0.57 version and it didn't work with SkyConnect. But maybe it's due to me running it in multiprotocol mode?

[@AndyKennedy]

Same here, sky connect and works fine with zha for me. Including lux. Hopefully that's the case for most people

[@markdinh]

works in zha for me with sonoff e (not in multiprotocol) @@BeardedTinker

[@BBalasa]

Hi, do we know that is the re arm / re monitoring time for motion sensor. Ikea motion sensors are generally dread full , previous generation one’s where timing 5 seconds for re test…

[@timosariwating8655]

No issues at all with the PARASOLL on Zigbee2MQTT 1.35.1. Using a SLZB-06 Zigbee-to-Ethernet Bridge

[@andreysimeonov1661]

Nice video, but showed only from the perspective of the Home assistance network, some of us don't have it, and will glad to hear how the buttons working, for example, how to change day/night mode and such things.

[@boozemaniac]

I have both sensors with Zigbee2Mqtt version 1.35.1 (Docker) The Coordinator is Sonoff USB Dongle Plus-P with FW 20230507. No issues at all. Vallhorn detects and luxmeter works and Parasoll works also. I have some Door-Light automation running about week now. No issues. This seems to be Lottery with these devices..

[@BeardedTinker]

They are really strange. Some say it's a TI chipset problem, and I didn't test with that one. Others say use SkyConnect it works but for đe also SkyConnect doesn't work. Have a bunch of other IKEA ZigBee devices and never had this many issues (except with old puck style dimmers)

[@DmytroDukov]

Can also confirm. I'm the owner of both (1 vallhorn and 3 parasoll). No issues whatsoever. z2m, zbdongle-e

[@BeardedTinker]

@@DmytroDukov thanks! What coordinator are you using and what HA version are you running?

[@DmytroDukov]

@@BeardedTinker HA 2024.1.3 (haven't updated to 2024.1.5 yet), z2m 1.35.1 Sonoff ZBDongle-E 7.3.1.0

[@BeardedTinker]

Only difference is 2024.1.5 . Thank you!!!!

[@suzithewitch]

"5 is right out" :)

[@eliogrin]

There is known issue with Vallhorn sensor when he start to send false motion trigger. After doing some research the solution is really fun - replace battery with rechargeable battery. I believe because of higher voltage of regular batteries it starts to produce noise. I spend few days in researching, hope will save someone’s time. Nevertheless sensors working great, and illumination values working great for me.

[@gmosc]

Hoping this solves my false trigger problems. I just checked and I was using normal Ikea alkaline batteries.

[@eliogrin]

@@gmosc , please, let us know here. But in my case fix an issue and working well for a month already.

[@gmosc]

@@eliogrin I'll let you know. Had to charge my batteries fully to do it right....

[@gmosc]

@@eliogrin it's working!

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

Good stuff!

[@BeardedTinker]

Thanks!

[@Beringtom]

I would proberly not screw the back back on the door sensor unless you absolutly need to. The use of recharable AA's really is something nice to see

[@BeardedTinker]

Yeah, rechargeable batteries make a lot more sense in long run

[@barrichello83]

Now I know why the old motion sensor was priced down. Bought two of those yesterday 😅. The option to place it into a corner is nice. I also picked up the Parasoll to try it out. It lives in my pantry now, just turning the light on when I open the door.

[@BeardedTinker]

Thanks for sharing - ability to bind to device directly is great. Even when hub is down it should still work.

[@barrichello83]

update, stopped working after 10 days. Battery change fixed it. Hope this is due to a bad battery and not because it uses that much power @@BeardedTinker

[@BeardedTinker]

Was is rechargeable battery @@barrichello83 ?

[@barrichello83]

No it wasn't@@BeardedTinker

[@BeardedTinker]

@@barrichello83 ok, just be careful as they in documentation mention that it should be 1.2V battery

[@matkany]

While it needed multiple run for the motion sensor I could connect the motion and the door sensor to ZHA with sonoff zigbee stick-P. The motion sensor drops some times from the zigbee, but I think it is because my network and not the sensor. The door sensor is really nice. Small and AAA battery use is nice.

[@BeardedTinker]

Glad it's working for you. Did you check signal strength on motion sensor? Maybe that's the issue. Maybe try to add the via other router on the network.

[@gerardschepers3744]

I got 3x Vallhorn sensors and put all 3 aside and went back to the old IKEA motion sensor. One tip, found in these comments, is to use rechargeable batteries. I did not try that one yet

[@paullacatus8975]

What about thread and matter ? Are there supported the IKEA sensors. Did you tested with Dirigera coordinator ?

[@BeardedTinker]

I don't have dirigera - only older Tradfri hub, but that one is offline. As for matter/thread, that more HUB issue for end devices - if hub supports it, you should be able to add it to matter network.

[@woutyboy3]

I just bought the Parasoll motion sensor 2 days ago and tested it with Home Assistant ZHA and it connected with no problem! The illuminance and lux do not work for ZHA as far as I could see.

[@BeardedTinker]

That's great - some users reported that it's working for them (light sensor).

[@dumitrudan608]

Do you have any tutorial on home asistant for someone who wants to start and wants to understand limitations and what does home assistant give you vs the built in Ikea Home?

[@BeardedTinker]

Unfortunately, nothing like that.

[@_renssies]

The VALLHORN is working fine for me with Z2M, including luminance. But my PARASOLL is a mess, it sometimes doesn't detect at all (the light on the device doesn't turn on) or the ZigBee message is not received by the coordinator (light turns on, but no state change in Z2M). Both use the same grey LADDA batteries. Using a SONOFF P stick and have an ASKVADER switch that can act as a router.

[@sulylunat]

If the lights aren't coming on it sounds more like a hardware issue. Regardless of connecting it to a network, the lights should still flash once when sensor is closed and twice when sensor is opened. If that isn't happening, you have a hardware issue and it might be worth returning and trying another.

[@qdaniele97]

The issue with the availability of parasoll sensors it's probably due to something wrong with the default "are-you-alive" ping timings. As a temporary fix, disabling availability checks for those sensors in the zigbee2mqtt config should work.

[@diglyph]

Have you tried the door sensor with an alkaline AAA cell instead of a rechargeable? Sometimes the lower voltage of the latter can affect the performance of some devices. Had been looking at picking some up next time I'm at Ikea, but may hold off for the short-term.

[@sulylunat]

They should be fine as they are designed to work specifically with Ikea rechargeables. Ikea doesn't even sell non rechargeable AAAs and I don't think any of their products are designed to work with stuff that Ikea do not sell. It also specifically states on the product page to use them with Ikea rechargeables. I have 4 parasolls and have had no issues with them to be honest, set them up last weekend and they have been rock solid since the initial pairing difficulty.

[@BeardedTinker]

That't correct. Device is designed for rechargeable batteries. Some users are reporting issues with standard/alkaline batteries, that are fixed as soon as they swap them.

[@Whatwherewhy586]

Cant wait till these hit the US stores.

[@markdinh]

i got some last month at 1 of the 3 Bay Area stores (Palo Alto)

[@Whatwherewhy586]

@@markdinh the door sensor?! I see only the motion sensor which i don’t really have a use for at the moment.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks.

[@BeardedTinker]

You're welcome Ron! Thank you!!

[@JaneTaubman]

I had a lot of problems with Ikea bulbs on SkyConnect and it turned out you needed to upgrade the firmware on the SkyConnect, just thought I would mention it in case you had not upgraded yours lately.

[@BeardedTinker]

Thanks - it's running latest stable version. But I'm running it in multi-pan mode, maybe this is the issue

[@BrainshitMcLovin]

I have used the vallhorn in zha, 1 is working as expected but the other one hangs itself in state detected. Never changes changes state.

[@BeardedTinker]

I had that issue few times with Z2M but repairing it helped with that.

[@zyrexgraft]

I use skyconnect and i could adopt all of the sensors into ZHA, both Parasoll and Vallhorn, although im not using 1.2v batteries both types work as expected in my Home assistant, opens and closes, shows brightness, Vallhorn does give false positives currently but i suspect that is caused by the wrong battery voltage. The door sensor works as expected for me, got two of them and have not seen anything wrong with them yet.

[@BeardedTinker]

That's really strange... Check this. Same issue -community.home-assistant.io/t/ikea-parasoll-vallhorn-devices-not-working-zha/668852 but again this was tested with SkyConnect with the latest firmware.

[@jonasregmyr]

I can confirm Vallhorn working great with ZHA and Sonoff Dongle-E on HA Blue with all the latest versions installed as of today. Zero problem. Rundning with IKEA Ladda batteriets.

[@MartinBentancour]

I had the same issue, changed to 1.2 rechargeable batteries (the ones from Ikea) and I have not had any false positives since then.

I have both with z2m and they work properly. Coordinator is dongle-P.

[@BeardedTinker]

What HA version are you running it on?

@@BeardedTinker Latest HAOS.

[@grahamshaw5531]

Not cheap but I use Philips Hue sensors. I can buy these local. any other brand will have to bought online from overseas.

[@BeardedTinker]

If it can be sourced locally, that is a good option!

[@dutchbeastz]

If you're using it with SmartThings it can only use the light lumen option.. not motion. So luckily I was just in time to purchase a lot more of the old Tradfri motion sensors. But had gladly used the new type. Somebody know how to use with smartthings or are new devices being able to do it?

[@videolan]

@videolan 0 seconds ago I wonder if the sensors are not being updated beause of a bug that has also affected the Yolink integration since HA 2024.1.3 - It seems a similar problem. Maybe it is best to test things only in release versions. of HA?

[@BeardedTinker]

If it is related, then it will be fixed in 2024.5.6 release of HA. Also note, this is an official release. It's not dev or beta.

[@videolan]

@@BeardedTinker Why will we have to wait until the sixth release in June 2024 or do I not understand the versioning schema?

[@BeardedTinker]

Typo 2024.1.6 :)

[@videolan]

@@BeardedTinker As you predicted - it's now been fixed.

[@sulylunat]

Just wanted to mention with the parasoll I experienced a similar issue with the process hanging trying to add the device to ZHA. I think what was said about routers possibly being the problem may be true as when I was trying to pair them, I was in a different room to the Skyconnect and the closest router was a smart plug. The plug is allegedly 3.0 but it's a cheap aliexpress plug so not sure if there is any truth in that or not. What I can say is I tried multiple times with different parasolls and if I was closer to a router rather than the Skyconnect, the sensors would not pair up. The second I went in the room with the Skyconnect and retried the process it got paired up straight away, no issue at all. So I would suggest pairing up with the device close to the Zigbee coordinator. I have since move my 4 parasolls to different areas of the house and they are all working very well and are responsive. Looking at the ZHA network map only one of them is currently connected directly to the Skyconnect, the other 3 are all connected via the same smart plug it was probably struggling to pair through and they are working absolutely fine, so you should be fine to pair with coordinator and then move them to wherever they need to go and they should be able to figure out the routing. Originally I had two of them reporting 0% battery level even though I knew they definitely weren't as it was a brand new set of batteries, but they are now displaying the correct level so if anyone is having that issue, just be patient and it might correct itself.

[@BeardedTinker]

Thank you for explanation! I tried on network where there are no routers - just SkyConnect and same issue. About battery, I've mentioned that - it can take some time for battery te bo reported. It's considered normal for battery state to be updated after some time, up to 24hrs.

[@BeardedTinker]

I believe that may be (one) of the problems. I tried connecting directly to ZHA via SkyConnect, without any router on the network, and that also didn't work. But, again, this could be by design issue that doesn't allow that too :)

[@sulylunat]

@@BeardedTinker strange. Only other difference is you tested on the 2024.1.5 version, but I’m on the 2024.1.4 version. I’m a bit worried to update now!

[@YaGr-ip3ub]

Parasoll works fine with ZHA, I have the conbee 2 and HA running in an VM What I found out, is that if you are too far away from your Zigbee stick, the configuration fails. Then reset the Sensor and pair it again.

[@BeardedTinker]

Thanks for that!!!

[@TheZukru]

Just pay attention to the manual saying they need 1.2V batteries, not 1.5V! Ikea Ni-MH AAA batteries are 1.2V so they work well together.

[@BeardedTinker]

Correct, thanks. I've seen in the comments that some are using them with normal, 1.5V batteries.

[@jackipiegg]

Will you review ikea's new buttons as well?

[@BeardedTinker]

I will, waiting for them to come to stock here (new dimmer and shortcut)

[@SuperVitcom]

How is the situation with the window sensor issue right now?

[@BeardedTinker]

It should be 100% supported in both ZHA and Z2m.

[@ToMiKoN]

Does it already support ZHA? I'm planning at rip to IKEA, maybe I pick it up!

[@BeardedTinker]

Yes, both of them are now 100% supported in ZHA.

[@Marajie]

I have 2 motionsensors and both are connected to zha.

[@BeardedTinker]

That's great!

[@rafflesmaos]

Standard high capacity rechargeable batteries inside zigbee sensors? Sign me up. Looks like I know what I'll be putting into my house next... just need temperature/humidity sensors.

[@BeardedTinker]

Hopefully, soon - it is really nice to be able to use rechargeable batteries.

[@mattpeufpeuf]

Is it work with hue bridge ?

[@BeardedTinker]

Haven't tested. Avoiding anything Philips :) Even food processors ;)

[@John7No]

what is the model of the other censor @9:43 I am on a hunt for such a small sensor

[@BeardedTinker]

Besides IKEA, we have Sonoff SNZB-03, but you are probably thinking about Aqara motion sensor gen 2. First gen is very similar, but doesn't detect light. I got them from here s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkHjSnb

[@John7No]

@@BeardedTinker how about that small door-window sensor that is really small compared to the ikea one , around the 10th minute of the video?

[@BeardedTinker]

That's just random "tuya" Zigbee door/window sensor. There are tons of similar ones. I have these few: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005175921792.html www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005409554837.html www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005873006042.html

[@schlomosilbermann7407]

Could you take a look at the Ikea leak sensor?

[@BeardedTinker]

Not sure if it was released. We don't have it locally. Not 100% sure, but I think I've seen somewhere it will be released in few months.

[@TalOrmanda]

that comes out in april@@BeardedTinker

[@BeardedTinker]

@@TalOrmanda Thanks, than I did see it correctly. Was afraid I mixed it up with something else.

[@MiggyManMike]

Is it just me or is there a huge gap in the market for door sensors for one designed to be fit inside a door face/strike plate ?

[@gulion06]

You had more luck than me, the Ikea latest motion sensor in z2m light reading is ok (although I didn't check the accuracy) but motion stays on "present". So, cheap but, as of today.. useless

[@BeardedTinker]

Really disappointing if you are HA user. If I would us it in their environment, direct binding with lights or similar, it would be OK device. But, we don't live in isolated world.

[@iainhay2823]

They don’t look great I must say. I really like their gu10 bulbs, I’ve found them rock solid on z2m and I’ve not had any fail yet so they are great but these I’ll pass on I think

[@BeardedTinker]

I really don't get these new ones. I know someone will probably say, ah, your fault, you need this, that whatever to get it working, but needing to wear red socks, stand on the hand and chant elf song while pairing it - it's not seamless experience :)

[@TheKenwahl]

Whats with the big ass batteries?

[@SmithyScotland]

IKEA moving away from non-rechargable batteries

[@BeardedTinker]

How? These are AAA rechargeable batteries?!

[@TheKenwahl]

@@BeardedTinker Yeah, I think that is was @SmithyScotland meant, that IKEA want all batteries to be rechargable, no more CR2032s. Problem is, that makes the sensors REALLY big..

[@Tntdruid]

Ikea always do some silly names 😄

[@BeardedTinker]

With these ones I once again feel like it's 5+ years ago and they've just started with IoT 😂😂😂

[@SmithyScotland]

They use the names of villages in Sweden. You now insulted the entire country

[@Tntdruid]

@@SmithyScotland woops 😂

[@jonasregmyr]

​@@SmithyScotlandIt used to be villages and place but now it's all kinds of Swedish words. VALLHORN is like a trumpet for getting the livestock home in the evening and PARASOLL is what you think it is ⛱️

[@fu1r4]

Rechargeable batteries only have 1.2 volts. It is much better to use Alkaline batteries that have 1.5 volts. Some devices won't even work with rechargeable batteries because you lose 0.3 volts on every battery you have, so if the device use 3 batteries you will lose almost 1 volt. IKEA's batteries are also crap. Both Alkaline and rechargeable, but those are cheap.

[@BeardedTinker]

You are generally right. Unless, devices are specifically designed for rechargeable batteries, like these, and like these have warning to use rechargeable 1.2V batteries explicitly stated in manual. Also, aren't those batteries produced in Japan by same factory that's making Panasonic and few others?

[@fu1r4]

@@BeardedTinker For 20 years ago we used IKEA's Alkaline and they were cheap and they last for 6 months. Panasonic/Duracell batteries lasted for 2 years in the exact same devices. We used them in clocks in a school. So, you could buy cheap batteries and replace them after 6 months or buy more expensive ones and replace them every 2 years.

[@rafflesmaos]

@@fu1r4 The Ikea LADDA batteries, the 2450 and 750 mah ones, are high end Japan made batteries that have a lot of reviews out there. They are the real deal and there's not much out there that is better than them even at higher prices.

[@MrVakarojus]

Got connected Vallhorn to HA zha easily. Works great. Still we don't have Parasoll in local Ikea, but waiting

[@BeardedTinker]

There were some updates in both ZHA and Z2M as far as IKEA devices are concerned and now all should work really nicely.