New ILFORD Colour Film

[@pdtech4524]

I like the vintage, retro vibe. 👌

[@aaronparpart]

This is the most insightful video I've found on it. Thank you! About to go test two rolls of it myself and plan to make a video about it. We'll see!

[@alanboyd2413]

Just in case people don’t realise: the Harman company which makes black and white films (eg HP5) and paper etc does not own the rights to use the Ilford brand on colour film. The company Ilford Imaging Europe GmbH owns the rights. This explains why the new Phoenix film, produced by Harman is sold as a Harman film - they cannot use the Ilford name on their colour films.

[@lensman5762]

This film is produced by Ilford Imaging in Switzerland, who have the rigjts to use the Ilford Brand. Harman Technology now owns what used to be Ilford in Knutsford ,

[@jamessalomon9343]

I started shooting film in high school (1968). The film looks like a high-speed color film manufactured by GAF in 1969. As I remember it the color was okay, but the images were grainy.

[@wearetrackclub]

Cool photos, Flora! Really nice vibes and compositions. Enjoyed hearing your thoughts 👌

[@flora.k]

Thank you for watching and reaching out 😎

[@AmbercoolPhotography]

This would be perfect if it was $6.99. The stock reminds me of 80s staple film.

[@photonfantastic]

Hi, Flora. Thank you for saving me from the expense and disappointment of trying this film. Given your review I can tell that it’s not going to work for the kind of shooting I do. The grain is a deal breaker for me. I am happy to have found your channel and look forward to your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@flora.k]

Happy you found some value in the video! Yes I understand that this amount of grain is limiting. Thank you for watching!

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

The photo with the yellow flowers is very nice.

[@Ybalrid]

This is not a film made by the Ilford people in England that makes the best black and white stuff, but another company that has the right to use the Ilford brand for print products and color films... I personally only saw this film in the disposable camera of the same name though. One truely new colour film around is Harman 200. It's very contrasty, grainy and crunchy but it's worth playing with. It's very saturated, compared to this one

[@flora.k]

Yes! The disposable camera with the same name,but 27 exposures

[@JWoooolfeeee]

Great pictures Flora. I like the little yellow flowers in front of the water

[@flora.k]

I find it very interesting that you saw water behind the flowers! It is actually just trees, but that's exactly the "dreamy" and "memory-like" feeling that I think this film enhances

[@Nitidus]

​@@flora.kI don't think they were talking about the trees - it's the hand in the foreground that looks like water if you don't realize what it is, especially due to the blue cast and the even bluer piece of clothing in the bottom left corner. Now that it clicked, I cannot unsee the hand at all anymore. But before that, I looked like it was water or some reflective surface mirroring the sky, and _behind_ the flowers. But I really can't make my brain switch back to that idea now, what a shame! Hahaha

[@35matinee]

I wish you had medium format examples

[@ianvaughan9028]

Wow, it looks like ISO 3200 film. The amount of grain is shocking.

[@grainystories]

The history behind this stock is quite tangled but there are some clues :D First of all, the developing process. C-41 is some kind of standard name for the type of processing of every color negative or maybe I should say that C-41 has become a standard process for developing color negatives. Because actually this process was introduced by Kodak and meant for their films. That’s why on Fujifilm stocks you can notice C-16 designation right next to C-41 because although those processes are fully interchangeable, every manufacturer created its own similar equivalent. On the Ilfocolor box is information about the AP70 process which comes from AGFA. And AGFA formula was used to produce ORWO films - NC400 and NC500. It’s also not so simple story but ORWO was created after the division of AGFA after WWII which was caused by the division of Germany - making the long story short. It is also an information that the film is packed in China and this fact also leads to ORWO because due to lack of machine for confectioning films in 135 cartridges it was done in China (or maybe still is). Is Ilfocolor repacked NC500? Well blues and yellows match pretty accurately, so it’s highly possible. Or it could be something similar but still made by ORWO. I’ve made a review of an Ilfocolor disposable camera and I was fairly certain that inside is the same film you are testing but well…it’s not. So now I’m pretty curious what they put into disposables.

[@flora.k]

That was very detailed! Thank you for sharing it in the comments , I will check the review of the disposable camera :)

[@grainystories]

@@flora.k no problem I’m really into the film stocks mysteries 😅 Thank you for this video, love your channel so much 😍

[@Nitidus]

This is C41 film that's not from Kodak. It can't be Harman Phoenix because that one's lower ISO and already sold under its original name. Therefore, it can only be Orwo. The one single color film manufacturer in addition to the two aforementione companies. Orwo NC500 is 400 ISO. Mystery solved - not so complicated after all. And all of the above goes aside the fact that the images VERY much look like the known Orwo stock, haha.

[@alexerreme]

It's curious how distinct films can relate to different feelings/emotions

[@flora.k]

Totally!

[@qozeemlawal5169]

nice! definitely look at harman phoenix!

[@flora.k]

Soon!

[@monkeysausageclub]

Have you considered trying the new Harman Phoenix? I'd like to hear your thoughts comparing that and Ilford color.

[@flora.k]

Sure! Nice idea !

[@russellharris5072]

I wouldn't use this filmmstock @ 400 iso at all,perhaps @ 100 iso it might do better.Your results show exactly what its good for which is quite a restricted range.Thanks for venturing where I wouldn't go............................................

[@flora.k]

I too felt that it needed to overexpose

[@SD_Alias]

Do conventional prints also have this massive grain? Or is it just the scanner that is enhancing it? For my taste it is too much… May be digital natives like it because a lot of them think analoge has to be flawed…

[@flora.k]

I don't know how prints would look, most probably they will still be grainy. I believe that this "flaw" of the analogue is very useful for certain kinds of photographic work

[@SD_Alias]

@@flora.kthat's what i meant. Today people think analog = flaws. But in the 90s we achieved perfekt results. Such grainy stuff with wrong exposure and colourcasts had been discarded as testprints.

[@Nitidus]

​@@SD_AliasThis is motion picture film. The color casts are by design.

[@GreenlifeFin]

I was surprised of this. I have seen some great examples of this film, not grainy like this. Maybe they were edited digitally 🤷‍♀️

[@alexcuee]

Sure feels vintage 😆

[@Autorange888]

Don't think so, it looks as if the film went into polluted developer. I've photos from the 70's where the Mediterranean sky is truly bright blue.

[@ViaOjo]

Hot dog😃!!!

[@CJBradley]

Nice film but too expensive.

[@vangstr]

looks very grainy.

[@raybeaumont7670]

Thanks for this video. I won't be using this film - it's crap. I'll stick to the mono films.