New Infinity Fireteam Rules | Explained

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Infinity Gamer

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This video explains the new fireteam rules and how they've changed from. the version we've all known for several years. From size bonuses to composition bonuses I explain everything there is to know about creating new fireteams.
If you want to learn how to create fireteams in sectorials for Infinity N4 then this is the video for you!

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@Vanyarma
@Vanyarma 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this, it will sure help many players get their heads around the changes. I must say I couldn't he happier with this update, as it levels the field for so many solo pieces that while fun were horribly outgunned before. So I'm gonna paint me another Arjuna now 😁
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree. It slightly more complicated but it’s helped so many factions that it’s got to be a good thing for the game.
@dylanRoflcopter
@dylanRoflcopter 2 жыл бұрын
You are a master at explaining and simplifying infinity rules, especially for new players, thank you so much
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so welcome! I only do it for people like you and hearing that the content is useful keeps me going 🙏
@petergreen1875
@petergreen1875 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched for a few months, but thought I’d jump back in. Thanks for the overview! Great summary. When I teach the game, this would be a good way to help budding players explore and learn the ideas. I loved seeing your painted minis in the transitions. As always, your production values and visuals were great! Looking forward to catching up on your last few videos!
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Peter! Really glad to have you back and watching 😃
@RobCattivelli
@RobCattivelli 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this... I see this after some games with the new rules and find your vid both informative and useful. Go on man!
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rob!! Really appreciate that.
@brendonsorenson5560
@brendonsorenson5560 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@brunobraga6905
@brunobraga6905 2 жыл бұрын
Great quality like always! Would really love to see this channel start to dip into Infinity Batreps
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Guess what’s on the horizon 😜
@KyleHoogendoorn
@KyleHoogendoorn 2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure watching your vids! I ran across your amazing minis on reddit a while back and wasn't paying attention to the user name when posted. Behold my surprise when you started posting them in your videos. PLEASE keep the painted minis coming, they look AMAZING and give me something to aspire too!
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so welcome!! I’m hoping to be able to share one of my latest minis soon but have to wait for the competition to finish first 😃
@quietprofessional4557
@quietprofessional4557 2 жыл бұрын
This is a nice, succinct overview of the new fireteam rules. I think this will make other fireteam options more balanced.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
I think so too. More choice and each factions has more options now.
@vladimirpalik6697
@vladimirpalik6697 2 жыл бұрын
neatly presented, thank you :)
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!
@waardlafrance110
@waardlafrance110 2 жыл бұрын
Great as usual! 🥳 The new rules seem simpler to me, before I played in generalist and casual mode, I may be tempted by fireteams in casu mode ^^ Since the old video 'Infinity N4 Sectorials Explained' is obsolete, maybe it should be de-indexed, and good weekend 😎
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
I had wondered but was unsure of KZbin’s processes around that. Need to do some research.
@RyanEdwardsVA
@RyanEdwardsVA 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I'm a new player, and while I'm browsing the forums for learning resources about list-building and such, all I ever see is "fireteams, fireteams, fireteams..." One could be forgiven for thinking this game was about nothing but fireteams! I was legitimately shocked to learn they were in a rules annex and not part of the "core game," given the central position they seem to occupy in many players' minds. Maybe this is partially due to the balance issues you mentioned the old system had? Anyhow, I went and downloaded the annex rules and they just about made my head spin. A simple, concise explanation like this helped me ensure that I wasn't losing my mind. I'd love to see a follow-up video from you on this topic, maybe going over some play examples to help newcomers like me understand how to use fireteams and the actual rules of play surrounding them, since this video covers the basics of fireteam construction.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the reason for keeping them seperate is likely twofold. One, you can play the game without them (vanilla) and secondly, they might change as these newer rules bed in. I’m sure that can be done!
@RyanEdwardsVA
@RyanEdwardsVA 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer I was more referring to why people seemed so obsessed with them being that they were unbalanced, rather than why they're separate; as you said at the beginning, I fully understand that reasoning, seems like a good idea to me, I was just very surprised. Looking forward to your next steps!
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Fireteams we’re always interesting. Some fireteam seemed unbalanced (Kamau sniper core) and others were almost unplayable (Starmada). The faction really dictated the usefulness of fireteams. With this update they seem to have made all sectorials playable and rebalanced the landscape. It’s really good!
@RyanEdwardsVA
@RyanEdwardsVA 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer wow, that sounds great! Love it when a rebalance works out. I'll be looking forward to getting into them when the time comes; looking at Military Orders and Shasvastii right now as the sectorials I'm most interested in, should be great fun!
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
I love Military Orders. Such a good army you’ll love them!
@manuelcolazo6752
@manuelcolazo6752 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video... Maybe a few graphic examples, or with actual minis would be cool
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Good feedback as always Manu, thank you!
@janofe2232
@janofe2232 2 жыл бұрын
Aha! You kept your promise ;-)
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
😂 I try to!
@shotou
@shotou 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I had it down, but the way you explained it, showed me that the old link team benefits have changed, but they kind of haven't. It used to be +3BS if you had a full fireteam of five, and it can still be that if it's a pure fireteam. So if I take a pure fireteam of Domaru, I get the +1 burst, Sixth Sense, and +1BS, which is different, but because it's all Domaru, it ends up back the same as the old link benefits, with the +3 discover, and the BS getting up to +3 by the time the team is full. So nothing has changed, except for making fireteams slightly less powerful when they're not all the same. I assume that some factions can make some bonkers fireteams, and this curtails it a little.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! With the maths I think a 4 person pure link is more powerful than the old 4 person link but that’s splitting hairs really. Likewise a 3 person pure has more buffs than the old 3 person link. But yeah that’s splitting hairs really.
@shotou
@shotou 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to get a chance to try this out tomorrow, finally getting to play infinity again after years, and after checking Army 7, I'm taking a four man Domaru link, with Neko, and a four man banzai link of Tanko with Mushashi. So a pure core team, and a harris team, I'm allowed one of each.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t actually know that you can have a 4 man Haris??
@peterschmand9498
@peterschmand9498 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to Infinty and still trying to understand all those rules. Thanks to your video I understand that fireteams will give certain bonuses based on the size of the fireteam. But what I don't understand is, which units I can throw in a fireteam? Only those mentioned in the fireteams chart in the army builder app? That would mean, that I can't build a Nomads fireteam out of my Operation Crimson Stone box!?
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
You could make a Corregidor fireteam with 3 Alguacils and 1 Evader to make a 4 man core. You could do just the 3 Alguacils for a pure Haris. Amadeus is a wildcard so if you got him as part of your crimson stone bundle you could make a 5 man mixed core by adding him to the 3 Alguacils and Evader. So you could create a fireteam with your Crimson Stone set if you run Corregidor. You can also proxy models if you want to trial different fireteams.
@haldanerobbs4837
@haldanerobbs4837 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good overview, nice and succinct. I'm curious how this will impact vanilla forces compared to sectorials. It reads to me that vanilla will lose out with order efficiency...unless you can build Core/Haris sectorial fireteams in a vanilla list (eg a Starmada Security Haris team in a vanilla O-12 list)
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
You can only build a duo fireteam in vanilla but that’s a huge bonus from the old vanilla as it improves order efficiency
@haldanerobbs4837
@haldanerobbs4837 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer Right right right. I thought vanilla used to have access to Haris/Core in some capacity as well...showcasing my lack of general awareness haha
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh now that you mention it there’s a chance Tohaa had access to a weird special Haris in their vanilla but it’s definitely the exception if I’m remembering correctly.
@haldanerobbs4837
@haldanerobbs4837 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer Haha sounds about right. Someone always needs a little jankiness.
@Space_Ranger
@Space_Ranger 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't gotten to play with the new teams yet but so far I like it. I've been going by Mixed and Un-Mixed. It's a bit of give and take I think. They took away bonuses for all teams but it's still there for a few and there's even more flexibility for those teams that do mix. So an unmixed Zhanshi team can get up to BS14, I can do an Un-Mixed Shang Ji that can get up to BS16 but I'll be paying for that because Shang Ji are expensive. Not a bad trade off. It's funny though how a mixed team can get better as they loose guys. Ie. 4 Zhanshi with 1 Shang JI. Mixed team at the start but then Shang Ji is down and they become Un-Mixed and gain the +3 Discover, and Zhanshi still have +1 to BS.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m actually starting to build lists with the expectation that I’ll lose the mixed ARO piece or aggressor quickly (either through death or breaking it) and then unleashing the power of the pure fireteam. It’s exciting to think of a force getting stronger as it gets a little smaller.
@Space_Ranger
@Space_Ranger 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer There's nothing bad at all about a unmixed Kappa team though. BS+3, +3 range, is fantastic for cheap troops.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Very true! I had a 4 person Crosier link take out a mimetism -6 ninja at close range. They’re a great tool for a lot of jobs.
@equals-kl9hm
@equals-kl9hm 2 жыл бұрын
Do Infinity models come with all the weapons they can be equipped with? The models are the best Science Fiction models out there hands down (imo). Just curious if they come with all their weapon load out options.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
No they generally have one weapon option (there’s one exception I can think of). However, infinity is much more proxy friendly than other war games and it’s rare for an entire army to be fielded WYSIWYG.
@brandonroberts1638
@brandonroberts1638 2 жыл бұрын
How can you tell who's a wild card now? It doesn't seem to be labeled in the Is army builder
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Open the fireteams chart in the army builder and scroll down to near the bottom. It will list all the wildcards there 😃
@brandonroberts1638
@brandonroberts1638 2 жыл бұрын
But now fire teams can be on vanilla or secretorial?
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Only duo fireteams exist in vanilla.
@pierluigimarchi8108
@pierluigimarchi8108 Жыл бұрын
What about wildcards?
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer Жыл бұрын
What about them?
@pierluigimarchi8108
@pierluigimarchi8108 Жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer they will be counted like a troop of the same type so the fire team will be pure or they will be counted in the opposite direction?
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer Жыл бұрын
That depends on whether they have the keyword necessary to make it pure 😃. What sectorial do you play?
@pierluigimarchi8108
@pierluigimarchi8108 Жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer shasvastii
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer Жыл бұрын
You’ve got a couple of good options for a Nox pure core. The 23 point Aïda Swanson could work nicely padding out your Nox troopers but you might look at a Haris with a sheskin and gwailo or Jayths. Lots of options 😃
@alexrobertson1472
@alexrobertson1472 2 жыл бұрын
Man it sucks that london seems to be the only place anyone plays infinity, cant find a game for love nor money :(
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried finding a Warcor on the map? maphub.net/CorvusBelli/corvus-belli-warcors Or you could join the IGC (Infinity Global Community) Facebook page and ask if anyone plays near you on there.
@alexrobertson1472
@alexrobertson1472 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_infinitygamer I have done both im afraid, the closest to me is all in London so not an option for me. Best I've managed is to get a few people from my tabletop club to try it with me but they didnt invest
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a shame. Really last case is to use Table Top Simulator to get some games in. That was quite popular during covid.
@Griffolion0
@Griffolion0 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexrobertson1472 Join the official Discord, there's a channel for seeing if there's groups near you.
@the_infinitygamer
@the_infinitygamer 2 жыл бұрын
Great call!
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