New Innovative Forestry Technique, Denial Forestry

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Denial Forest Management is becoming increasingly popular, and for good reason. This method of forest management is very simple. All you have to do is pretend problems in the forest are not happening. One of the great benefits of that is, you don’t have to deal with the problems. This method of forestry simplifies the management of forests, and allows you to manage them with much less effort. In this video I don’t lead the best example though. I don’t do the best job of practicing what I preach. I actually do salvage a bug killed Douglas fir tree to put on my Woodmizer LT15 sawmill. But we could pretend that didn’t happen. We could call it denial video watching.
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[@grassyknowles63]

Every time I hear the word "Denial," I think of a quote from the movie "The New Guy." Tis spoken, "Denial is not just a river in Egypt.."

[@HubertofLiege]

Everything is site,or region specific.while it’s bugs in some areas, it can be a fungus in others. Often an old growth forest is 50% dead and dying trees.

[@DJYaackles]

I am Totally with you on the Sock issue !!! Thanks for that !!!

[@HardRockVermont]

Great topic Michael! Salvage work is critical to a properly managed forest, thinning, select cut, and dead rot removal.

[@digger0429]

Billy goat work,who needs a gym when you have big hills to climb good video

[@adirondackwoodsman]

I used tractor forks for years but switched to a log grapple for my tractor this year. Works great!

[@metaagyel620]

I really like your videos and appreciate the humor.

[@Sven-ErikJohansson-tn6hx]

Hej Michael ,watching yuor vids ,love that humor of yuors ,and watchin that longsword tecneek is fabulos!!pardon my spelling ,Im a amator kainsaw guy ,maby 700 trees in Sweden ! Keep on the goddwork , mvh Sven-Erik

[@lpeterman]

Never apologize for your language skills -- Your English is WAAAAY better than my Swedish!

[@Anonymous-wf3oy]

nice Humbolt cut!!!!!!!

[@budgillett9627]

Another video I enjoyed!

[@bwillan]

Denial Forestry. LOL. Good one. It's time to enlist your twin self and divide and conquer the problem. One takes care of the dead douglas fir trees and the other works on thinning the forest.

[@TheHappinessOfThePursuit]

Doppelgänger forestry. 😂

[@WilsonForestLands]

I’ve been trying to practice doppelgänger forestry for years. I just can’t find my Twin self. I don’t know where he buggered off to.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

​@@WilsonForestLandsHe flied, flewed, fluttered... He done r-u-n-n-o-f-t. 😊

[@WilsonForestLands]

Very well said. 😂

[@Anonymous-wf3oy]

Random thought here for you................the saw chaps should be below boot top height and should not be allowed to spin outward exposing your inner thigh area. I ran a wildland fire crew for 13 years and have seen a saw injury (on another crew) where the bar tip just missed the chaps and went into the inner left calf muscle because the chaps were not centered on front of the leg. It's an easy fix, sag the waste belt so the chaps don't ride so high, or get longer chaps and the leg straps should prob be tightened down just a bit more. Saw injuries are some of the worst wounds for surgeons to work on, due to the wide saw kerf the chain creates.................

[@VicsYard]

4 cameras for that cut? Awesome!

[@mlindsay527]

All the ashes are rapidly dying around here. Haven’t heard of anyone salvaging them. I’m trying to manage my white pines that die and/or fall over on a regular basis. Got into biochar production with them. Lot of work, but hopefully it’ll improve my pastures long term.

[@WilsonForestLands]

The emerald ash borer recently made it to the west coast. I only have a couple ash trees but they expect similar die off here.

[@anemone104]

Denial forestry here in the UK in a word: Deer. I can see herds of several dozen to over a hundred introduced sika grazing derelict pasture any dusk here in Dorset. Only thing thinning the numbers is roadkill (corpses can be seen roadside almost any morning) and there is a hard browse line in any woodland you care to walk. Not that I do forestry - I do woodland management, which over here is different. I envy you your system of rides. Most of the small woods I work have no machinery access. We have socks over here too. Even some Merino ones. I don't have any camel ones, I usually wind up with pink or purple ones as I'm a smallish bloke with small feet and the pinkypurpley ones are often on special offer. And I like nice colours. 'Just like my dear Papa'.

[@JohnDoe-qg6hm]

Venison is nice too eat and supposedly healthy !

[@lpeterman]

LOL, I saw what you did there with the Python-esque "Lumberjack song." Over here, (Oregon) we call them roads or trails, but your UK term "rides" works quite well; more poetic. Good to see you commenting on Wilson's channel, now I get to comment on both simultaneously! Cheers from the Willamette Valley.

[@anemone104]

@@lpeterman Oh dear. That means you read my ramblings to the end. This must mean you liked what you read. Thank you. I certainly like the stuff that comes out of the Forested Lands of Wilson - the guy doesn't seem as po-faced as lots of KZbinrs and makes a lot of sense to boot. And I like his forests - so different from the woods I work.

[@terryk3118]

​@@lpetermanThanks for the translation. I thought rides referred to his tractor and Cat.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I was wondering if that’s what rides meant or if that was a typo. I enjoy learning about the different words they call things in the UK. They have such a way with the English language.

[@adelarsen9776]

I find these videos cathodic, therapeutic and relaxing. Forestry management ? What's that ? Not in my country.... The USFS says "Caring for the Land". Can someone tell me where that's happening ?

[@mclarksws]

When they figure out the new sock feture let us know. I love your channel from one Michael to another. When i do your Humboldt cut other people think i know alot more about using a saw and logging than i actually do. Will you do a video on the trauma first aid gear you carry? Ie tourniquet wound packing gauze ect. If you dont have any or its old crap look up Refuge medical. They were started by a guy that ran saws professionally for years. They can hook you up.

[@DanielBentley-jw4gh]

Love your videos Michael

[@dgoodman1484]

Good socks are the most important item you’ll wear but I guess I haven’t yet adjusted to post Covid pricing 😞 👍🏼👍🏼

[@willbecker8515]

Please do a video on Oak forest management! I live in Napa County, lots of sudden oak death.

[@waltdelbo6445]

Thx MiCHAEL. Been here since the start. 32 K now! Congratulations

[@lukegambrill902]

The root rot amarilla loves Grand Fir and Douglas-Fir. Too many stacked together and it starts picking the trees off. Same thing happening in North Idaho.

[@gorrister2977]

I saw a german study, that the fir bark beetle gives the Armillaria a good start to kill the Douglas fir.

[@danbarrette9888]

For the past 30 years I’ve been fortunate enough to not have a problem with my ash trees but over the winter I’ve noticed half dozen trees with the emerald ash borer. Damn bugs. I have three left to fall.

[@user-dn2rt5lq4w]

All your ash trees have them

[@calebdoner]

Denile is a river in Egypt.

[@jwahrmund]

New to your channel, so I’ll take a poor guess where you are located. Pine and fir and madrone, plus black tail. It looks fairly dry and part of me wants to say back side of the cascade. But madrones and black tail says west side. I’m stumped. No pun intended I was raised by timber dollars and respect the hell out of your channel. Very thankful to find this

[@Mike-oxlong1029]

Thanks for being my hero man

[@ronaldmatros9890]

Snap, crackle and pop, nice sounds.

[@wayneweis653]

Good catch of your exhaust can.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I usually catch it but I missed it this time.

[@mimi27513]

Pine trees here in NC - going at an alarming rate.

[@D-B-Cooper]

I have found that if I don’t pick up my mail or answer my phone then I don’t have any debts.

[@WilsonForestLands]

Oh yes, denial finance, brilliant!

[@terryk3118]

Why do you continue to run the saw after the tree begins to fall? Are you doing some last minute guidance as to where it goes?

[@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223]

I commented on your last video , to send a little humor back your way . I feel its only fair after you do all this work to entertain us out here in TV land . However someone commented and thought I was serious . And come to think of it you didn't respond so maybe you did too . Great deer pictures .

[@WilsonForestLands]

I get behind sometimes on comments. I just got to that one a little while ago. I appreciate the humor. I always know when I try to add some humor in the videos, there will be a certain percentage of people who will take it seriously. Looks like it goes for the humorous comments too. 😁

[@wootenbasset8631]

If it is significant, I would like to know why you marked a cut above where you pointed to when you measured it.

[@edwinlikeshistractor8521]

I caught that shrug because you didn't catch the can. If the tree is dying and you don't fall it do the beetles over winter and start up again in the spring if the tree isn't completely dead?

[@sacha11666]

Maybe can do yourself a couple of 10"x10" for framing nice stuff. ( it can always be resawn, resawed?... I mean resawmilled (?!) later.

[@twagenknecht]

Michael, again another excellent and informative video. Thanks much for taking us along to the forest, where, I'd reckon many have never seen, and enjoy true forestry management. Also, I love the fact that the deer are there with you. I do have a question: In your opinion, are the Doug Firs starting to become extinct due to the bug issue? If so, what are you/nature replacing them with. Thanks. T

[@WilsonForestLands]

I don’t think Douglas fir are becoming extinct. The massive die off is mostly in areas that are hot and dry like inland Southern Oregon and California. Places like the coast, Northwest Oregon, much of Western Washington and BC, Douglas fir are doing quite well. Places where it is a cooler wetter climate. For the last decade or so we have had drought, excessively hot and long summers. That with a few other factors are leading to them dying in areas that are on the edge of where they are able to grow.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I forgot to answer the other part of your question. I am favoring trees like Ponderosa Pine, Madrone, black oak, white oak. These, especially the white oak do better in these hot dry sites.

[@Frontireadventures]

Lol...that is so so funny.

[@richardabernathy6242]

Does the slash/limbs have bugs? Do you burn it?

[@MsdMakingSawDust]

My motto If you don’t want to work !! Don’t go looking for it…😂 Look you can keep talking about them socks, There not sending another pair 😂😂😂😂

[@WilsonForestLands]

Yep that’s a good motto. They actually sent me two more pairs.

[@EINNHOJ100]

are you the same Mr Wilson that was in tool time

[@dustinfisher9908]

Ive been in southwestern Oregon for about 6 months now on some acres, and ive been dealing with a section of my forest dying off as well. i heard you mention about getting rid of the bark effectively. may i ask how you find it best to deal with that, i really want to get this under control. ...also is there a way to save the cedar trees from the black mold thats spreading on them? DOnt mean to take up to much of your time, thanks for all the great videos!

[@lpeterman]

Hi Dustin, going to jump in here, not to take Wilson's place but to recommend contacting the local/county OSU Extension Forester or Master Woodland Manager, (also through Extension.) Service is free and you get some info you can use to save some trees. Search online for OSU Extension/"X" County and request a site visit. Cheers from a Master Woodlands Manager in Linn County

[@hobbyfarmer62]

Doug fir seem to be doing better up here in northwest Washington state as far as I know. One we have been dealing with is red alder decline once they reach a certain size they often start to decline and be sickly looking. Of course over winter we get a good amount strong coastal winds that likes to blow down many of the unhealthy trees. And to my mind videos of you inspecting and remove any trees not doing good is a forest management video. Why do deer always seem to show up when logging is going on?

[@WilsonForestLands]

Douglas fir do much better in cooler wetter places like NW Washington. Hot dry places like here in inland Southern Oregon and California are where they are having problems. I think the deer learn the sound of chainsaws and equipment means there are going to be good things close to the ground to eat. Here it’s usually the lichen that were growing up in the tree that are now on the ground.

[@tree_carcass_mangler]

I haven't heard about a Douglass fir die off. I hope it isn't catastrophic in numbers, like the chestnut blight was. Thanks for posting, and thumbs up.

[@bennetwilson8122]

its pretty bad, most of southern Oregon / north cali has thousands of continuous acres of die off

[@bennetwilson8122]

similar to the spruce budworm outbreak in New England, not as bad as chestnut though.

[@mikemcd]

I have a few hundred dead doug firs on my property in Northern California. Is there anything i can do?!

[@Frontireadventures]

They fluked off😂😂😂😂

[@fadetounforgiven]

That Denial technique is something I use as well. It's nice to know it's an international thing. Just a question out of curiosity. That tree behind you when you're explaining all kinds of things from about 6:00 on has a few holes, are those cause by birds? fallen branches? Thank you!

[@janistan]

It's bulletholes from Wilson's earlier attempt to fight bugs, it's called Armed Forestry.

[@WilsonForestLands]

Those are just dark spots from where the tree healed over the dead branches as they broke off. It happened recently enough that the tree hasn’t developed the flaky bark in those spots that the rest of the Ponderosa Pine tree has. I think they are dark because since the bark isn’t flaking off, mildew can grow there.

[@fadetounforgiven]

@@WilsonForestLands it was the first thing I thought but they seemed a bit too many and kind of randomly placed to what I'm used to seeing in pine trees, though we don't have the ponderosa kind around here. The usual ones here are pinaster, which have their branches at certain intervals.

[@southernadirondackoutdoors]

Ahh, I thought you were referencing the southern border. The forestry dept makes more sense for the video 🤣

[@WilsonForestLands]

I mostly deny the news exist, therefore I don’t need to worry about the southern border. 😁

[@erice9536]

Talk like that could get you a seat in the Senate, or dare I say ........ even a cabinet level position!

[@WilsonForestLands]

I’m not sure if I’m ready for that. In order to do that I think I need to not only talk like that but also learn how to deny that I’m talking like that at the same time.

[@wayneweis653]

There has to be another dead dug fur somewhere.

[@thunderusnight]

Michael, you really have to do a little more research. De trees don't grow on de Nial, de reeds do.

[@adirondackwoodsman]

The bugs might be nature’s way of thinning the forest. As long as the bugs don’t get all of them in the same year.

[@jameskringlee8974]

"Denial Forestry" - A problem to be solved.

[@jameskringlee8974]

Prevention for the "pokey thing in your sock" also the tick bitey thing that causes serious diseases. A band of Velcro or flange type plastic zip lock zipper sewn into the inside of your pants above boot top level when your pants are in the highest "pulled up" level position that they reach during work with a, thus attachable, noseeum mesh type fabric over-sock. With the selection of an appropriate 1 piece coverall and such attachments - over-socks for the pant legs, over skin under-gloves for the sleeves and under collar stored over-hat insect veil a more complete, practical, pokey bitey Prevention can be accomplished.

[@WilsonForestLands]

As long as I don’t have holes in my pants I don’t typically get sawdust in them when I am wearing them with boots. I am suspicious debris sometimes get in there when I am walking in socks on the floor before putting my boots on. The really sneaky ones I think find their way in there from my pants pockets into the sock while in the laundry. Only a suspicion though. I haven’t done a ride along yet to confirm. We don’t have many of those tick bitey things here. But that would be a good feature for places where they are abundant.

[@Bushman9]

Let’s see… Emerald Ash Borer, Hemlock Woolly Adelgid, Asian Long-Horned Beetle, Asian Ladybug, Asian Giant Hornet, Asian Tiger Mosquito, and everyone’s favorite, the Brown Marmorated Stink Bug. Asia… the continent that just keeps giving! ps. Yeah I know there’s more.

[@larrypetteys9090]

I hate that about socks

[@joeyrector1015]

See that you have a new supervisor. He was making a weird sound because he was thinking you for fresh food and he was putting in his two cents worth on talking since you was talking alot

[@job38four10]

This whole country is in denial especially among Brandon supporters. They all say everything is fine and getting better when this country is going down like the Titanic with sky high inflation, sky high fuel prices and two wars going on. Strange how $5.00 diesel makes things better when 5 years ago I was paying $2.00/gal for diesel and gas, but anyone that dont mind paying $30.00 for pair of socks must be doing good and in denial.............

[@colinswainson9882]

Build yourself a log cabin if you have to much wood 🪵