These bars are really things of beauty...so many uploads in a week. We are getting spoiled
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Need to get rid of my backlog so I can move some of this excess equipment 😂
@bmstylee2 жыл бұрын
Elite FTS American Cambered Bar for the win.
@williamb43892 жыл бұрын
And it’s less than half the price of the Kadillac bar right now.
@drinkinouttacups26652 жыл бұрын
Based
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
A classic
@jamestonbellajo2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you did this comparison. I used to use the Rogue TB-2 very regularly and I own both a Rogue MG-1 and Kabuki Kadillac (made by Kabuki). I feel the exact same way about Rogue’s specialty bar knurling. It’s fine but nothing to write home about and the powder coat while nice feels “cheaper” than the Kadillac’s in comparison. I love the powder coat on it and it grips incredibly well like you said. I also agree that it grips better in hand than Rogue’s specialty bar knurling and it feels a lot better to me honestly. I also didn’t have to deal with lead time getting it back in December. Took about 4 days after ordering to get to me in California. I also have the V2 Kadillac Bar so its bolts are similar to Rogue’s single bolts and the X is lined up with the bottom of the frame instead of being centered like V1. It also has the beveled edges and corners like Rogue’s. So Rogue’s design is pretty much the same as Kabuki’s V2, both improvements over V1. I tried to tell people not to get too hyped for Rogue’s knurling especially those who wanted to sell their current Kadillac Bars to get the Rogue one.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
appreciate the firsthand feedback!
@flexmarksthespot2 жыл бұрын
I was someone who upgraded to Rogue from the same Kadi you had and I thought it was worth buying again. The powder coat on my handles wore down to where the knurled version feels way grippier. I also liked how the X in the middle of the bar is lowered and is way more comfortable on your chest. But yeah functionally, not really different.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@babygiantbarbell10142 жыл бұрын
For us exclusively paused benchers, that change to the center x would make a huge difference. But getting rid of the Kabuki endcap is tragic. Very interesting comparison Brandon!
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
You know it's interesting, I try to pause most of my reps to some degree but with these camber bars and long arms I find touching a bit more difficult.
@espcustom2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison buddy...i was fearing watching your review as buying the kabuki one not even a few months prior to when Rogue announced their partnership bummed me out....I thought that it would give me a huge craving to ditch it but it still makes me like mine for the grip factor..the kabuki powdercoat is really nice and the knurling was my only concern...thanks !!
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Glad to ease that concern!
@Bottom3Percenter Жыл бұрын
I have the early V1 Kadillac bar and wondered if the Rogue produced version was that much better. I think Rogue missed a few opportunities to really set it improve it. • 1 Better Knurling on par with the standard Ohio Bar • 2 Center attachment point for use with cable systems • 3 Improving the sleeves to standard rotating sleeves like the MG-4 Thank you for the compassion Brandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for taking a look!
@JustinRudd422 жыл бұрын
Funny. I bought my Kadillac from Kabuki a couple of years ago. It looks like the Rogue version (welds, middle X, bolts for the sleeves) minus the knurled handles. So depending on which Kadillac you got from Kabuki, the changes when Rogue took over even more minor.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Right on, I do believe there was one newer version than the one I own, so good to know.
@Tlevy22 жыл бұрын
Great review. I’ve used both and actually do prefer the rogue one. Maybe I’m biased because I know its the “newer” version. But specifically I do like the knurled handles vs the powder coat. The power coat for me didn’t perform as well with sweaty hands and it was a little more messy and would rub off. I also have the tb-1 trap bar so I like the consistency with handles since the knurling is similar. Finally I do use full range and love the flat bottom vs having a sharp edge on my chest.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Right on! Guess my long arms don't help here lol.
@adammacdonnell96552 жыл бұрын
Brandon following in Efrens footsteps and leaving the tag on the bar🤣🤣
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm lazy.
@Timm1292 жыл бұрын
Elite fts American camber bar here. I'm very happy with it..
@bmstylee2 жыл бұрын
Definitely hits the price/quality ratio.
@Timm1292 жыл бұрын
@@bmstylee currently on sale for 236$ it's a bargain
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat a classic
@pharaun10132 жыл бұрын
I have the old Kabuki version but really like the black sleeve Rogue version
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I forgot to mention those here. Look cool but more aesthetics.
@LukesGarageGym2 жыл бұрын
That textured powder coat really does make a heck of a difference! Got a bar recently with it and it makes it next level. But seriously though, these bars are just freakin pretty!!
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
More toys for the boys
@LukesGarageGym2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon haha HECK YEAH!
@srhyse2 жыл бұрын
Love my original Kadillac and use it daily with people but it still feels like a 1.0 bar all around compared to how the Transformer bar evolved. I’d love a shorter sleeved version that’s not at all sharp and maybe has an extra set of handles instead of an X in the middle. Nice knurling would be nice but I don’t much care since the grippy texture actually works decently and I mostly use it for pressing. Better balance would also be appreciated. More space to rack it as well, which is another reason the sleeves would be shorter. It’d have to weigh more than 45lbs to achieve that but I think that’s fine. 55-65lbs is fine. Makes the math harder but you get over it.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Some good points!
@TheShamanofStrength Жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY the review I was looking for!! First vid I clicked on was horrible!! Thank you for actually explaining the difference between the two bars!!
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@joecowan37192 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going over the differences with these two versions, wish the handles were OPB knurling with 33mm and not powdercoated. I love my OG Kaddy, but I thought from Bill's early posts that is how they were upgrading it...oh well, Rogue does like to V2 their releases.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
I guess that's a compelling argument for the MG-4cn
@kozmo72 жыл бұрын
awesome thanks man, always love what you do
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words
@jaybrodi90292 жыл бұрын
I wish Rogue would take over the Marrs bar
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
I don't see that happening unfortunately.
@thomasbrown73282 жыл бұрын
Sad that rogue didn’t add a hoop on the top side of the X in the middle of the bar to attach the bar to a lat pull down. So why do you thing Kabuki let Rogue take over one of their main pieces? Did Rogue cut them a big check?
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
TBH this thing as a pull down attachment would be more of a pain in the ass. Even the bells of steel one that's lighter and has a smaller footprint sucks to use.
@GlucksGym2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh cambered bars, I'm in.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Used to things being bent in your life eh?? :)
@monkeyspacepilot007 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the kadillac bar for sale on rogue Europe I was hoping that the other kabuki specialist bars would also be available soon. Now I know that rogue is just producing the kadillac I guess that won't be the case.
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
They teased a pic on IG that they seem to be working on the Transformer bar.
@TheCarterHomeGym2 жыл бұрын
Textured powder coat does make a difference. I like it on my Elitefts American Cambered Bar. Have you used it before? Curious how it compares to the Kabuki 🤔
@bmstylee2 жыл бұрын
I like mine. Makes a good simulator for pressing a log overhead.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Only randomly in public gyms 😢
@vu54592 жыл бұрын
I own the Kabuki: Kadillac Bar v1, Trap Bar HD with ALL 1.5" Handles and the Transformer Bar v2 (the same one you have that you made in your videos). For the Current Kadillac Bar v1, I found that this bar slips and it's very hard to grip in that the 32mm handles WITHOUT knurling doesn't really give you a confident feeling of when you're holding the bar that you're in full control. On top of that, without the the knurling it makes you feel like the bar will slip out of your hands. Even at 34mm knurled, I would find it too small for my hands to make me feel like there's good enough contact with my hands. I'll wait till Kabuki moves the handles to 38mm also before I would upgrade. In Addition, the ANGLES of the current existing Kabuki Bar handles could be more inward than it currently is. With respect to how I came about my preferred HANDLE SIZE: After using the 29mm and 1.5" or 38.1mm knurled Kabuki Trap Bar HD, I would PREFER the 38mm or larger for ALL GRIPS with extreme knurling as I feel more confident with bigger handles and knurling that sort of sticks to the skin of my hands. I will probably end up buying 2" Handles for my Trap Bar HD from Kabuki Soon as I don't even feel like the 38.1mm provides enough stick to the skin of my hands.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hear you, those girthy handles do feel nice in the hands.
@Lieudahcris2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Was considering upgrading to the Rogue version mainly for the knurled handles but not anymore, hoped that they would be like Efren's...
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Yeah def more of a check the box thing to me.
@markhalstead23862 жыл бұрын
My Kadillac Bar was shipped from Kabuki last December 2 days after I ordered it. Not the case with the Transformer bar.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah they’ve been hitting delays on everything it seems.
@TrainerBigMike Жыл бұрын
I always thought I’d have a Kadillac bar by now but phew the price is just 😅 if I don’t use my basic MultiGrip bar, like at all, do you think upgrading is a good idea?
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Nope!
@deke61sg2 жыл бұрын
Another great review by BB. Thanks.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@jamesshaffer45472 жыл бұрын
Nice review , as always , Brandon. Are you going to do a review and/or a comparison video between the Kadillac and Rogue MG-4cn ? I actually was able to swap out the regular MG-4c because of thread issue for the Kaddillac when Rogue started selling it and I'm wondering if it was a good decision or should I have just swapped for the MG-4cn. Ah , all these gear desires, they just won't leave me alone .lol . I know they're both great bars ,I just always like to hear your thoughts on things . And remember ; STAY BIG ! ! !
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Yes will talk about in a video I'm sure!
@carps_gym2 жыл бұрын
Yep sold the old one to get the new Knurled handles.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Baller status
@bro_nah___12 жыл бұрын
Hope you make review on that rogue camber bar with the short sleeves
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
I'll def talk about it!
@MacStrengthCo2 жыл бұрын
Rogue making some improvements which is awesome. Great review bud
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Thanks my dude!
@sandersaarend2 жыл бұрын
"Rogue shipping is pretty much $20 - $30 cheaper" It's a very different story for Europeans - Kabuki shipping + import tax for this bar to my house is $818, that's WITHOUT the cost of the bar itself (yes, you read that correctly). Meanwhile from Rogue Europe, shipping is 66€.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Gotcha!
@JonathanTReviews2 жыл бұрын
Nice walk through. Thanks for putting this together. Would love your thoughts on the Kadillac vs the Rep Cambered Swiss, if you could only pick one for bench. Cheers
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Don’t make me have to get more bars! 😅
@JonathanTReviews2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Haha! I will do no such thing 😉 You're welcome 😁
@christianramirez88312 жыл бұрын
I have both. Gotta say I prefer the rep bar, without even taking into account the price difference. The kadi just barely fits in my rep rack. This won’t be an issue if you have a rogue rack. I prefer the handle positions on the rep bar. The outside positions on the Kadi are too wide, so I’m only able to use 2 of its grips. Also the handles on the rep bar are thicker and not as long. This makes the bar more stable. Rep is better for OHP due to the round tubing and more narrow frame. Finally the sleeves are higher quality on the rep bar. Kabuki zinc ends up looking pretty bad after a few months. My transformer bar and shoulderrok also lost their shine and look very dull
@JonathanTReviews2 жыл бұрын
@@christianramirez8831 Thanks for sharing your feedback! Cheers
@ISWIMWITHFISH2 жыл бұрын
First!! Had to do a double take that you uploaded again! Man I’m just not sure about the X in the middle. Does it seem to far spread out?? Excited to get it!!
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Def a bit extra lol
@emmanuelcastro5677 Жыл бұрын
Is the bar worth it? Can you do the same exercises with a regular barbell and/or dumbbell? What are the advantage of owning such bar?
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
A camber multi grip bar like this let’s you use a neutral grip (more comfortable for some) and allows a greater ROM
@reginaldchesterfield81102 жыл бұрын
Hmm… better balance is so important. Annnndddd… Knurled handles is so desirable hahah.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
These still have their own balance issues IMO
@patrickmurphy80082 жыл бұрын
Brandon I'd love for you to check out the Rep Ares or Athena and give us your thoughts in using it Your rack is a Rep one right? Would fit right in besides making you have to find new plate storage solutions
@MrPanthers232 жыл бұрын
I second this notion. I'd prefer an athena review.
@bmstylee2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting. But it's Rep so 90% of the parts will be permanently out of stock.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
I no longer have a rep rack so not likely something I’d hold my breath for!
@MrPanthers232 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon booo!! Do u wish you had a rep rack just for the ares or athena?
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPanthers23 Yes and no. I don't miss the redundancy of having two 6 post racks and my Prime Single Stack gives me a lot of the cable functionality. I prob wouldn't use the functional trainer aspect of it too often but I'm sure my wife would.
@BrimhallBarbellClub2 жыл бұрын
Great info here!
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LosFerrer2 жыл бұрын
I see a Vendetta jammer arm accessory there… :)
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Almost finalized for monster racks!
@LosFerrer2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon i am waiting for those :) but problem of living in Europe is that most of the time they do not send here… 🤞🏼
@SaulFemm2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what this means for Kabuki. The Duffalo and now the Kadillac? Hope everything is good over at Kabuki, I want them to stick around.
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge they're still producing the duffalo internally. But they have had a lot of supply chain issues since they outsource some of the work.
@ironcathedral47232 жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts about rogue acquiring ghost strong when and if they are going to begin selling their equipment or are they discontinuing it all? I seen the statement about them acquiring that but that is all do you have any inside information🤘🏼
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
So they already make/sell the roller j cups and combo racks. I don’t think they’ll make much if anything else!
@hullihenfamily8292 жыл бұрын
more importantly, what is the mount holding the Iever arms on the rack? i love my kubbuci kaddilac bar and like the features better on the old one, particularly the smaller diameter handles. 34mm is just two big.
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
It's from Vendetta Strength
@hullihenfamily829 Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon thanks, i look them up and not compatible with the rogue 2.0 version yet. that sucks. thats on my must buy list when that comes out. I use the lock key to lock them up high to ge them out of the way but this would be so much better.
@hennos5966 Жыл бұрын
Did you buy the new version from kabuki or Rogue?
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Kabuki sent it to me but it comes from rogue.
@airgordo42 жыл бұрын
Did you move the rack? 🤔
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Maybe like 8 months ago?
@doyourbest9992 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. Stay big. Eat quest bars.
@muffemod2 жыл бұрын
B I G B O I S
@BasementBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Haha appreciated.
@johnnygunzfilmbuff78212 жыл бұрын
Which one do you recommend?
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Between these two? Whichever is cheaper.
@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821 Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon k fair enough.
@twanrui3222 Жыл бұрын
Get the Rogue Transformer Bar when it's released on 4/15 and review it. Thanks
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Prob will be skipping. I don't use my transformer anymore and went back to an SSB
@twanrui3222 Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon You cant skip. It's your youtube job to get it and compare the new bar to the old bar. The fitness gods require you to review the new bar. Use it for lunges and bulgarian split squats. Thanks!
@GeorgeZimmermen Жыл бұрын
No end cap, no buy!
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Lol, seems like such a minor thing to not carry over!
@MeharBhogal2 жыл бұрын
weird. wonder why they took it over
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Kabuki has a lot of supply chain issues since not a lot is done in house.
@GeorgeZimmermen Жыл бұрын
Probanaly has something to do with waiting 4 plus months to get a bar like I did for the transformer and kadillac