NEW Kia EV9 7 seat electric SUV price revealed - $20,000 cheaper than Rivian

NEW Kia EV9 7 seat electric SUV price revealed - $20,000 cheaper than Rivian
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[@NotJanine777]

170 mile real world range is a joke. This is the problem with the current crop of EV’s - they might look cutting-edge but the battery tech is just ancient - these cars will be considered about as hi-tech as a steam engine in about 5-years time - no one will want them second-hand. Stick to a decent ICE car for now until the battery tech and charging infrastructure is sorted.

[@panderiz5]

In this bracket I agree, also the outlook on batteries and the relevance of older vehicle in the future as well. I’ve got a model 3 and Y currently, both LR which makes them both more than enough in range but do wonder about the future value of them - that said I’m saving 3-5k in fuel/costs per/year but still….

[@trstnhn]

So you decided to only mention the lower trim to make your point. Because mentioning the higher trim with 300+ range wouldn't help you with your braindead narrative.

[@MrRaitzi]

This car with 25 kwh plug-in system would have been perfect.

[@papasquat355]

Kia stealerships already markup their cars outrageously. This thing will be in the high $70K range before you drive it home. And, with sub 200 mile range, it is completely impractical.

[@madchenwheat9364]

My local Kia dealer: $20,000 too cheap you say? Hold my markup! You're welcome!

[@BarryObaminable]

Family car often just used to take the kids to school and get groceries and head to the store. For 54k Its a giant car with lot of features and I dont get 16 mpg.

[@OverlandExpedition]

Yeah but it will lose 30K in 6 months 👍

[@doubleclutchonline5811]

My first Model X was a 75D with 230 miles of range. Lemme tell ya, that was not good enough. If you charge to 20% and have a squeal-point at the low end of 20%, then you're only talking around 140 miles of effective usable range. That was in 2017. Today, any EV that offers those specs is just not very good.

[@scottiswatchingtele]

i think the 260 on the y is light on the $43k rwd model. mine had about 230 effective & i've owned a few EV's. maybe i did something wrong, but that's what it was.

[@georgewarriner4017]

220 miles, how often do you drive that far with a family without a stop? It can be charged to 80% in twenty minutes. It is plenty enough. I know personally in the last two years there is only one trip I have made where with a range of 220 miles (354 kms) I would have had to get an outside the house charge. Yes it would be nice to have more range, but is it worth the much higher price to get it. For me no. For the extra price I'd rather put in a Solar charging station at my house.

[@bytemark6508]

Mind you, the 354 kms is EPA estimated range. Going on a highway at more than 100 km/h should get much shorter range. My Model 3 RWD can get around 450km in the city and about 350 km on the highway, and it's a much smaller (air resistance wise) car. At higher speeds, you'd be left with maybe 250 km. If that is enough for you, that's OK, but that means you need stop after every other hour or so to recharge. But in the city, the range is more than enough, unless you live in the longest city in the world. (By the way, I googled "longest city in the world", as soon as I typed it: "Stretching 150km along the coast from Two Rocks to Mandurah, Perth has a claim to be the world's longest city")

[@-whackd]

Why would you stop every hour to charge if it had a 250km range? How fast do you drive

[@bytemark6508]

@@-whackd I said every OTHER hour. That means every 2 hours... English expression.

[@jkim5746]

You're all not thinking about what this or anything similar ACTUALLY is used for: SUV > multiple passengers & possibly gear, a "family car", more than likely used more in the suburbs than the city. A normal commuting person would not be using this...if I was a gambler, my money bet is that the range on this had been done with a single test driver, lets say he's a hefty 200 lb person.....they did not calculate a significant other and perhaps 2 kids and around another 200 lbs of gear for a trip. Of course there will be a ton of variables here but even if it was a 400 max ranged EV, quick charging it will only bring it to 300...but that 400 is really what with all that weight and the usage of air conditioning and etc? Perhaps 325 on the full charge? Long trips = average 80 MPH, that would AGAIN equate to less range...look it up people! So 400 = most likely 275 max, then quick charging to 300 after 30 minutes or so = that range to be what? 175 max? Does anyone actually have some real life testing done with this type of scenario? Not for the EV9, but for let's say even a lighter Tesla Model Y (which IMO is not a SUV) Yes the future will be EVs but we will all really have to wait for the battery tech to get to the next level or two to see mass adoption here in the USA. In my family's scenario, 250+170+160+130+120 = 830 lbs for my entire family, not including gear...just say an even 1000 lbs, no way they calculated an average family's weight and range calculated it all... EV9, CyberTruck, Escalade IQ will have ranges way too short

[@nismo7243]

Everything seems cheap when youre fucking rich the average american aint buying this shit 50k and above

[@ColinWatters]

KI EV9 Appears to start at £65,000 (about $79,000) in the UK.

[@toms5996]

This Kia seems like a great car - 'bang for the buck'. I'm happy with my BYD Tang but it is not the cheapest. 🇫🇮

[@Teknomanslade2]

honestly, as good as all these new cars coming out tend to be, I still dont understand why they dont have camera security systems as a standard thing now. Thats one of the major draws for tesla and innovation... i mean its the least stolen car for a reason. Unlike hyundai and Kias.

[@danielstefanovic2604]

Here in Norway they have only the fully speced awd version for sale and the price? 84 000 usd 😮

[@LamarMK]

Love it! They just need to get the AWD above 300 miles.

[@MrRaitzi]

Maybe ioniq 7 might do it. I seems to have better aerodynamics.

[@LamarMK]

@@MrRaitzi Might be.

[@andders2477]

waiting for the EV5, hope it will be priced better in EU and that it will be able to pull a decent trailer.

[@georgewarriner4017]

250 km, stop every hour or so? 250 km, is about 2½ hours driving. I'm ready for a break after that. However I almost never drive that far, so for the odd time I do, the extra expense of a bigger battery wouldn't be worth it. I can see for some people that are doing a long drive like that on a regular bases it would be, but not for me and my driving habits.

[@mikecoffeen7991]

Or towing a light trailer.

[@monkeysezbegood]

People really overestimate how much range they need.

[@pipopipi]

In Norway ev9 will be priced even above the facelift model X. I don't think many will pay so much money for KIA, regardless of the features. They compete even worse with NIO and Byd for cars of the same size. I hope the ev5 will have a more competitive price in Norway.

[@csjrogerson2377]

Is this BEV cheap compared to other similar sized "off road" EVs, YES. Is it better than a Landcruiser, absolutely NO. Is it cheaper than a Landcruiser, YES. Will it remain this cheap, NO. Is it worth looking at as an off-road vehicle, absolutely NO, coz it doesnt do the basics well enough. The range is utterly pathetic, the torque is appallingly bad. Just, NO.

[@JorgBrown]

I'd consider buying this to replace our aging Toyota Highlander Hybrid, but sorry, the 200-mile range is a problem unless it has access to Tesla's charing network. And the lack of AWD or 4WD means it can't substitute for the Highlander's ability to take us skiing. I mean, I can get a used Tesla Model X 90D and it does have all wheel drive and it has more range (257 miles) and it's only $36K.... I know, it's used and it's got 64,000 miles on it, and it was a 2016, but c'mon Kia, you should be able to at least compete with what Tesla could build 7 years ago!

[@nickmcconnell1291]

Let's hope they don't have so many recalls on this one like they do for the EV6.

[@uludak8468]

???

[@nickmcconnell1291]

@@uludak8468 Look up EV6 ICCU recall.

[@hdhd7402]

I’d say around 90K after all the dealership sweepstakes! If the EV9 is ready for the public then the Genesis GV90 won’t be to far behind.

[@i6power30]

As much I love EVs, I'd have to admit it's not going to last as long or age as well as Land cruiser

[@whowhy9023]

Why not? EV’s should last much longer.

[@i6power30]

@@whowhy9023 battery degradation with calendar aging. Also this particular EV in question probably has so much electronics and computer components that are not built to withstand the test of time. This is not restricted to EVs though. Almost all modern cars gas or EV depend too much on computers like delicate flowers

[@johndinsdale1707]

This pricing makes the KIA EV5 a very interesting pricing puzzle?

[@satoshistan]

yeah i EU they start at a retarded 72k euro and if you want to spec out easy 85k euro so in USD that is 76k start price a cool 17K more for the base model. I guess europeans love to overpay ....

[@kenhiett5266]

This doesn't even complete with the Rivian on range and performance. Are you supposed to be an authority on EV's? lol

[@tymobyrne4451]

I want an electric conversion van, solar panels, im parking till the batteries are charged, then moving until they are not, rinse and repeat, Sailing a solar RV, going be a thing, mark my words.

[@Samsson83]

Sounds cool!

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

It’s going to be long time until solar EV going to be a thing.

[@Samsson83]

I think the idea here is that you´re not in a hurry. You have a big vehicle with perhaps even extending panels and you stay for some time in one place until it´s full enough to move on. This is very different from e.g. a smaller car you need for your daylie way to work.@@blackwhirlwind1245

[@hobo1704]

If you are that broke to charge your car doesn't sound like a very enjoyable trip..

[@Samsson83]

are people who sail just too broke to buy fuel?@@hobo1704

[@nickmcconnell1291]

What the heck is the drag coefficient on this thing? Efficiency must suck. Agree the range is too small. Socker mom car only and that for local games.

[@woodchip2782]

If you can afford to put 54 thousand on a vehicle that will last 10 years you are rich, wasteful and careless…😶

[@chillfluencer]

It's shit because it comes with a Lithium Ion Battery - probably from LG. 🤦

[@kvs13156]

Flea bag dealers will add 15 to 20k of nonsensical charges - higher cost and lower range than gasoline vehicles - no one will buy it

[@ronmorrell9809]

Waiting a course years for bugs to be sorted on a new model seems wise. Especially with expanded infotainment & assist electronics. By then, some will be coming off lease, and will be competing against the new LFP batteries from CATL (previously described on this channel).

[@timorum]

Cheap? who the hell can afford it? only a select few. they are also offering a 100kw/h battery.

[@SomewhereInTheSolarSystem]

It is another great option for who want an EV and need space, but this is not a fair comparison, Rivian is still not making shopping carts.

[@2018tundra]

Dealers can’t do any more markup. They are afraid of losing buyers and businesses .

[@coleminor13]

Rather buy a used Tesla, much cheaper, better range, Tesla recharge network is the trump card!

[@RoddNTune619]

Wit all these greedy dealers ppl will be overpaying for this as usual 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ginog5037]

Overpriced, low range junk...

[@Dreamer10888]

Excuse me aren’t you Australian???

[@agni772]

Unless its range hits 300+, feel like it's going to be very niche.

[@daveyshmavey]

The power and mileage isn’t worth that kind of money, in my opinion.

[@eschreck814]

Kia is crushing design since their rebranding. Specs? Eh.

[@yolo-cars]

Thank you! You're right, who knows if price will go up by the time they start manufacturing it here. I wonder if there is info about the high performance version of EV9? I mean 0-60 times etc.

[@rickybosephus2036]

so it's a cobalt child labor car? we can't charge it to 100%?

[@noleftturns]

The Kia EV9 is the 1st EV I can recommend to Americans - it's a monster SUV with room for 7 and 4 captain's chairs for excellent seating. Whatever price it comes out as, just remember that there are NO castings in it - it was made the old-fashioned way, and this suggests that Teslas are way way over priced if castings make that much of a difference. I'm hoping my son's company gives him one as a company car - he can easily handle his family of 5 and grandma and grandpa.

[@edsta714]

Just because it’s priced that way doesn’t mean they’re making money on it. Plus it only has barely 200 miles.

[@noleftturns]

@@edsta714so get the 300 mile version

[@richardservatius5405]

so hopefully Tesla makes a better suv for less!

[@peterinns5136]

Perfect for the main use of Landcruisers, the school run. Who needs long range for that?

[@robertfonovic3551]

And who needs a barge to take their children to school?

[@peterinns5136]

@@robertfonovic3551 No one, but a whole lot of people have one. They are too expensive to run as commuter vehicles so mum ends up running the kids to school. It's one reason why women make good truck drivers. All that practice...........

[@Dreamer10888]

Hi , how about sydney??

[@fatdoi003]

this man is talking in codes.... on one side he said EV manufacturers not making profits are going to fold but the other side KIA is losing money on every EV they sell.... now go buy...

[@thienthan324]

For everyday driving, it’s recommended to charge to 80%, and then you wouldn’t want to drive down to 0 daily. So let’s just assume 80% to 10%, the safe for battery longevity driving range is 150 miles.

[@RjKing1v1]

I love the kia ev9, but the big problem is the DEALER MARK UP'S ARE GOING TO KILL IT

[@sirgardensalot]

How Long Does it Take to Drive 200 Miles? - 3 hours and 20 minutes that is at 65 MPH to me I would need to stop and have break at around 2 hours so 20minutes a fast charger I think you would fine

[@MMT_Rod]

The range is fine in cities, but small vehicles are usually a much better purchase for urban areas. Big vehicles are designed for long trips and for that 200 miles is not enough.

[@tomdrewenskus8167]

Now do the math on a 1500 mile road trip. That's 8 full rechargings, and you will have range anxiety when you reach 150 miles. That's why Sam said to wait for the bigger battery. Though it would be okay for a big family just driving around town or running errands locally. Kudos to Kia for their first attempt at a large SUV EV.

[@benprovan]

I so want this car BUT the range isn't there. Not only is the range short, it's a massive battery that will take a long time to charge. Fast charging sounds nice, but requires working / available chargers, and only Tesla has that....

[@71kimg]

100k in denmark

[@talpolano4549]

Cheap until dealership markup the MARK-UP! 3:)

[@carpentierguy]

I ordered one and i payed 80000 € here in europe

[@mra4107]

Looks really good! Any news on NACS for North America?

[@jericoreyes24]

NACS?

[@kabysummit5801]

I’m still concerned about Kia EV fires. I’d go with those with LFP batteries

[@inclusivelove5165]

Cyber trucks are rolling of production line at the moment. The waiting list is two years long on these Kias. I am not sure.

[@kyliefan7]

😂😂😂 IF anyone knows KIA or HYUNDAI then you’ll know that they will never send any base models to the dealership. Still too expensive!!

[@trstnhn]

That's a flawed thinking. There is more demand for lower trims. If Kia makes equal number of vehicles for each trims, you're going to have a harder time getting the dib on the lower trim since there is a higher demand for it. Unless you know the actual numbers (with sources to back it up and not your imaginations), let's not spread fairytale stories.

[@ozzyjohn1458]

How many will be recalled, let see if anyone talks about that.

[@trstnhn]

How many of cars from other brands are being recalled? I'm sure you wouldn't know because you specifically have a hard-on for making Kia look bad. Recalls are a very normal thing in the auto industry.

[@enockheewonyoon1001]

So far my favorites are EV9GT and Ioniq 5N!! Wish I have $$ to buy them both!

[@ISuperTed]

I’ll best my house not a single one of these will sell anywhere near that price.

[@craigarnold1212]

It has been said that it will have bi-directional charging. Making it and the Ford F150 the only vehicles capable of V2G or V2H. So far no confirmation... and 7 seaters qualify for up to $80,000 top price with full credit. The low end model could be a soccer mom's car.

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

That is not quite true because any E-GMP could deliver in Europe 220 Volts and 3‘600 Watts and has also a 220 Volts power outlet. The US-Kia therefore have 110 Volts V2L plug coming with every car either Kia, Hyundai or Genesis. The full V2G here is not yet feasible due to legal constraints and wallboxes not yet ready!

[@irfanhusein1445]

Looks like a great SUV and capable of towing 5000 pounds. I would definitely consider it, and opt for the bigger battery and the dual motor configuration

[@scottiswatchingtele]

wow! bigger than I had imagined. 220 miles--nope. i hope it doesn't brick itself after 12 months like the EV6. I worry though, it sounds appealing, but the EV6 is also a very large car. Too large, IMO - but it isn't a soccer wagon either. Great video!! do you think this will force a X update?

[@yolo-cars]

Please could you elaborate on "ev6 brick itself"? Recently I was thinking maybe to get an EV6 GT.

[@mnhsty]

The Telluride starts at about $36,000.

[@Mr.Worf63]

Over $74,000 Ca 🇨🇦 😆😂🤣 🙅‍♂️

[@MrRaitzi]

Because shit coin CAD.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

What's the battery type?

[@JoeyBlogs007]

LIPO Lithium Polymer. Not a safe battery it seems.

[@glennshimamoto9922]

Charge port is on passenger side.

[@Somebody294]

Yes it's a better price, still not anywhere near where it needs to be. You can get a comparable suv that's gas powered in the mid 30's.

[@chags3512]

Right but you can save 10k or more in fuel costs over 5-6 years.

[@guccisasha]

Looks nice, but i d rather get the CT.

[@nickfelstead7559]

cool looking car, hopeless battery life lol

[@dnevs79]

I checked it out at my local Kia dealer… freaking amazing

[@Electrotech007]

Very expensive in Germany

[@nerdbikes3841]

The Rivian is much much faster and better off-road if those things are important to you.

[@magnuslarsson337]

And noticeably smaller on the inside… But if you and your family and friends are of less than average height & not overweight, it sure is a great vehicle.

[@Fabulousprofound168]

There is also the Volvo EX90? I wonder how the Hyundai Ioniq7 version will be like…. When will that be coming?

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

Would be interesting to compare all big SUV in that class to see what the Kia EV9 really offers. If you really need kind of car it will be definitely among the best also pricewise. Of course that is not the poors family car even on lease!

[@KidHorn7001]

Might be another entry level vehicle that they'll make very few of. Likely, most on the dealer lots will be closer to $80k usd.

[@JonathanRootD]

For the base?!

[@chrisborns5972]

I wouldn't buy a US child labor mobile at any price.

[@uludak8468]

made in america =💩

[@scfpmd1955]

KIA dealerships are notorious for adding dealer markups. This SUV will cost a lot more than $54,900.

[@zenster1097]

Like? What is the actual markup?

[@mikecoffeen7991]

We shopped around and found a dealer who charged MSRP.

[@tylergood1223]

AWD Model Y still cheaper before the tax credit is even considered

[@trstnhn]

Did this idiot just compare model y to ev9? That's as braindead as comparing a honda crv with a honda pilot.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Afternoon mate

[@carlcadogan4510]

I like the look of the EV9. Looks awesome.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Cheers mate

[@koffeegy]

Is it true that Australia is changing their laws pertaining to the size of trucks that can drive on their roads now allowing for bigger trucks? If so does this mean the CyberTruck can now be purchased in AUS.?

[@AKJammer1]

The new width effects class 8 semi trucks. So the Tesla Semi, along with Volvo, Mercedes and others, can be driven on their roads. The CyberTruck is just a typical Ute (pickup). The issue there is the right vs left hand drive.

[@koffeegy]

Thank you for your response.@@AKJammer1

[@hobo1704]

Needs to be RHD..

[@jlamm2223443]

For someone who needs a big car that does not take a lot of super long trips, or has another car for that, or likes to have comfortable break or walk after 200 miles, the base model really provides an affordable option. Way to go.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

Not agree.. Rivian just released new spec options in term of power set-up for it's both vehicles R1T -truck & R1S -SUV.. So far they have made & sell top of the line expensive quad motor versions that do not qualify for govern grant to cut-off price but now for lower trims like "dual motor" or "dual motor performance" they do qualify and even though have less features inside are the same creature comfort but now are more efficient because less overall mass weight (-2 motors) also depending on battery type selected is allowing the car equipped with dual motor and max battery pack to have a 420 miles range between charging's and can still do 0-60 under 4 sec and that is a dream for Kia EV9 because new Rivian price can drop in the 78.500 $ territory specially if you not get (just delete) - all the optional gismos that add to the higher price like : optional roof tent, roof racks, optional gears bars, tunnel cooking-system, bike / ski/ kayak racks, etc.. Basic Rivian vehicle without expensive optional paint is much cheaper and still has good capabilities & decent mileage, is dual motor always select basic paint color + self healing 1500$ wrap instead of getting 4000 $ optional special factory paint so yeah if is smart configurated the Rivian is on all aspects better even in basic trims..

[@jlamm2223443]

@@poplaurentiu4148 sounds pretty nice, but 78K for a midsize truck might be a tough sell. I hope they make it.

[@ChicagoBob123]

The ev6 would qualify for half

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

Think first! The question is if you need kind of car and not if you only can compare pears with apples! The Kia EV9 is for 6 or 7 adult persons as the third row is huge too and it offers also luggage space. The range is among the best in its class and of course you charge ultra fast with an 800 Volts system. It’s really a big SUV to make distances and never underestimate consumption of ICE in that group of cars to be fair. I always read these stupid comments on range but from people comparing might be their little Ford Fiesta with a big Limo or SUV. My EV6 AWD can go in ideal mountainous area up to 600 km (372 US miles) which for me is enough for one day and I charge in 10 seconds mostly 😜 Plug in the evening at my wallbox and unplug in the morning. On vacation we only choose Hotels with garage and charger. But the best this big Limo with the space of a Mercedes S-Class costs a fraction and is highly efficient in fact using just 2 litres of petrol equivalent on 100 km while an ICE S-Class or similar of any brand uses up to 20 litres in real life with A/C on etc. So driving electric not only changes your view but is another conscious lifestyle getting more fun while dramatically lowering cost (TCO). As an entrepreneur driving mostly German Premium for 54 years - when they were top of the automotive world - I know about what I speak🤔🤓

[@KarilSampson]

The design is exactly what I am looking for, but the limited range is a deal killer. I won't go less than 350 miles and even that is a compromise. For the Gary Sues, yes I know you don't need that range but I do so buzz off.

[@qubit0002]

Nice, makes Rivian look boring

[@JoeyBlogs007]

My God that Riven is such an unappealing looking vehicle.

[@colinwiseman]

We don't need another Sports and Utility Vehicle!

[@carolinatexpro]

#1 When they introduce wireless charging, range won't matter for the majority of buyers. It charges every time you get home, just park in your spot. #2 If you shouldn't charge to 100%, why don't they program that into the vehicle rather than blaming the user when they overcharge?